X-Factor Mafia [Archive] - HeroClix Realms

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 06:59

Here's a link (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2969347&postcount=1) to an old list of rules. Nothing much has changed.

The town's alignment this game is X-Factor while the mafia's alignment is Hel. Of course, those aren't the only alignments present. :devious:

Introduction (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5373287&postcount=2)
Day 1 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5375786&postcount=146)
Night 1 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5378832&postcount=148)
Day 2 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5381971&postcount=495)
Night 2 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5389097&postcount=496)
Day 3 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5392671&postcount=675)
Night 3 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5398320&postcount=676)
Day 4 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5401028&postcount=764)
Night 4 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5410422&postcount=766)
Day 5 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5420589&postcount=990)
Night 5 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5420589&postcount=991)
Day 6 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5423193&postcount=1264)
Night 6 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5423193&postcount=1265)
Day 7 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5430975&postcount=1526)
Night 7 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5430975&postcount=1527)
Day 8 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5437980&postcount=1756)
Night 8 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5437980&postcount=1757)
Day 9 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5445617&postcount=1920)
Night 9 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5445617&postcount=1921)
Day 10 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5446055&postcount=1961)
Conclusion (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5446055&postcount=1964)
Roles (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5446072&postcount=1966)

Winners/X-Factorers: (5)

DarqFeonix - Cortex - Neutral
get_1 - Layla Miller - X-Factor
Iceman425 - Multiple Man - X-Factor
Rokk_Krinn - Cyclosp & Jean Grey - X-Factor
VenomDaBomb - Thor - Neutral

Dead/Undead:
charlesx - Strong Guy - X-Factor
Cornucopia - Pip - Neutral
deadshot042 - M - Hel
eternalrage - Wildchild - X-Factor
HavokAndChaos - Havok - X-Factor
Immortal_Raven - Hela - Hel
JacinB - Undead Soldier - Hel
kontrol - Ecks & Sever - Ecks-Factor
Magnito - Quicksilver - X-Factor
malakim2099 (formerly Giggyex) - Multiple Man - X-Factor
michiganj24 - Undead Soldier - Hel
Morpheousdr3am3r - John Madrox - X-Factor
Mr Stranger - Multiple Man - X-Factor
normalview - Undead Soldier - Hel
Ouchmaker - Robert Umry - Neutral
PaxZRake (formerly mbauers) - Undead Soldier - Hel
pbdeberry - King Henry VIII - Ex-Factor
Quebbster - Shatterstar - X-Factor
Silver Lantern - Shard - X-Factor
Truffle Shuffle - Darwin - X-Factor
tyroman - Longshot - X-Factor

Alternate:
PaxZRake

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 07:00

Introduction:

A bald man in a dress watched from his invisible vantage point as the group of mutants gathered together outside the opening to Hel. The mutants stared into the long tunnel, dreading the task they were about to face. The eternal flames danced deep down in the bowels of the Earth as their light flickered across the mutants' somber faces. The bald man watched in anticipation as the scarred man in the trench coat rallied his troops, but before the mutants entered the caverns of Hel, reality flickered. It was imperceptible to the human eye, but the bald man couldn't miss it. The entire reality, save him, blinked out of existence for a split second. Refocusing on the mutants below, the bald man noticed that their ranks had swelled considerably. Faces from yesteryear joined their brethren on their journey. After the mutants had all marched themselves into Hel, a few wild cards shifted into existence and followed close behind. The bald man stared quizzically as the tunnels of Hel vanished before him. He was confident that he could find the mutants again, but it would take time. Navigating the Norseverse was always tricky. sstralkowski is temporarily lost. He was Uatu. Alignment: Watcher

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 07:01

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have 24 hours to accomplish something or someone dies.

charlesx

03/08/2011, 07:54

First post in the game! Woooooo!!!!

Silver Lantern

03/08/2011, 08:03

Checking in. Wonder if there will be any similarities to Stan's last two games. Doesn't appear that way at first glance.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 08:15

Checking in. Wonder if there will be any similarities to Stan's last two games. Doesn't appear that way at first glance.

This is not Birds of Prey if that's what you're asking.

Cornucopia

03/08/2011, 09:29

Checking in. Wonder if there will be any similarities to Stan's last two games. Doesn't appear that way at first glance.

Checking in. Stan's games always seem to have some new twist in them. Time will tell.

normalview

03/08/2011, 09:35

Maybe it is just because I haven't picked up an issue of X-Factor since Peter David's government team, but I've got no idea why they are going into Hel. And wikipedia didn't seem to know, either.

Anyone know if this is based on an actual X-Factor story? Or is this likely something Stan just made up for the game?

kontrol

03/08/2011, 09:39

Yes actual story, Hela was a client.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 09:47

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_60hznQsXgF4/TEpIs6Mm1cI/AAAAAAAABTw/d970UAJJ4M4/s1600/X-Factor+207.jpg

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/c/70/4c3dd96a0e4e6/detail.jpg

charlesx

03/08/2011, 09:51

How many Madroxes do you think Stan out in the game? As much as he loves the character, I would not at all be surprised to see multiple Multiple Men roles. :cool:

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 09:56

Vote Count:

none

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have 21 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 10:01

Yay, new game!

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 10:27

Checking in before class.

Immortal_Raven

03/08/2011, 11:16

Checking in and anything is possible. I will never forget Woody Woodpecker as a Bird of Prey.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 11:30

Checking in and anything is possible. I will never forget Woody Woodpecker as a Bird of Prey.
I liked Brown i in Star Wars. And Kremlin in Gremlins. And...

get_1

03/08/2011, 11:54

I get the impression that this game is going to be far more canon than the average Stan game.

DarqFeonix

03/08/2011, 12:07

I liked Brown i in Star Wars. And Kremlin in Gremlins. And...

Those were great.

My favorite in Gremlins was coming up with Hulk Hogan for the Mafia... even Stan was like "Why Hulk Hogan?!?"

See... even Stan can be thrown for a loop occasionally

get_1

03/08/2011, 12:09

I got that role...

I should have figured it was your fault. Random role assignment my butthole!

get_1

03/08/2011, 12:09

But you know what?

I gave you Miley Cyrus in my last impromptu game. I was really hoping you'd have to claim, too.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 12:17

But you know what?

I gave you Miley Cyrus in my last impromptu game. I was really hoping you'd have to claim, too.
Ironically, I'm Miley Cyrus in this game.

(No, not really.)

Just checking in and subscribing to the thread, peeps.

Magnito

03/08/2011, 12:19

This is the only game I'm in now. Glad it's started.

kontrol

03/08/2011, 12:29

Ironically, I'm Miley Cyrus in this game.

(No, not really.)

Just checking in and subscribing to the thread, peeps.

No, you're Simon Cowell

vote:JacinB

Take that American Idol creator!!!

Rokk_Krinn

03/08/2011, 12:36

No, you're Simon Cowell

vote:JacinB

Take that American Idol creator!!!

Wondered who was going to be the first to refer to the tv show. :)

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 12:38

Those were great.

My favorite in Gremlins was coming up with Hulk Hogan for the Mafia... even Stan was like "Why Hulk Hogan?!?"

See... even Stan can be thrown for a loop occasionally

All true. :laugh:

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 12:39

Vote Count:

JacinB: (1) kontrol

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 18.5 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 13:03

vote: JacinB in order to accomplish something.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 13:07

Vote Count:

JacinB: (2) kontrol, Quebbs

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 18 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Immortal_Raven

03/08/2011, 13:08

Vote: get_1

It's a good place to start for me.

normalview

03/08/2011, 13:15

Since we have to do something, I will VOTE: get_1, too.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 13:21

Vote: get_1

It's a good place to start for me.
^
|
Totally not a meta vote, right?

get_1

03/08/2011, 13:21

Dishonorable!

charlesx

03/08/2011, 13:25

Hmmm. Very tempting to get on the get 1 lynch train.

However, I like the other option just a little better.

Vote to lynch: JacinB.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 13:27

vote: JacinB in order to accomplish something.
Just a note: In the last Stan game I played in, the threat of "do something or someone dies" was mostly just to motivate people to vote and talk.

I'd rather not claim on Day One as it'll likely make me a target (of course, I've played enough of these to just sort of assume someone's going to kill me tonight anyway), but if it's a matter of forcing me to do so in order to prevent someone else from dying today, I'm alright with doing it.

It'll have to be a little later today, though, as I really need to get this stack of work my supervisor needs done off of my desk (and I will miss some time tonight, too, as I'm taking my son's Cub Scout den bowling).

JacinB

03/08/2011, 13:37

Oh, and ...

Vote: get_1

(And, yes, that is a meta vote. But, only because malakim2099 isn't here.)

Immortal_Raven

03/08/2011, 13:40

^
|
Totally not a meta vote, right?

Well, I had to start somewhere. And you still owed me some payback from what I did in Joss Whedon.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 13:43

Waitasecond!

Vote: Rokk_Krinn

(Long time no see, man.)

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 13:51

Just a note: In the last Stan game I played in, the threat of "do something or someone dies" was mostly just to motivate people to vote and talk.
Yes, stan always makes that stipulation for day 1. And it usually gets people talking enough for him to qualify it as "getting something done". That does not mean the threat should be taken lightly though.

VenomDaBomb

03/08/2011, 14:05

All can rejoice as I am here! remember to be honorable and mind your selves! Villains beware any devious deeds will be met with swift punishment!

eternalrage

03/08/2011, 14:11

I'm here and very much look forward to this.

Lynch: Get_1

kontrol

03/08/2011, 14:24

Wondered who was going to be the first to refer to the tv show. :)
[ominous voice] It pleases me to be the first.[/ominous voice]

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 14:37

Vote Count:

JacinB: (3) kontrol, Quebbs, charlesx
get: (3) IR, normal, eternalrage
Rokk: (1) JacinB

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 16.5 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 14:38

Yes, stan always makes that stipulation for day 1. And it usually gets people talking enough for him to qualify it as "getting something done". That does not mean the threat should be taken lightly though.

What he said.

charlesx

03/08/2011, 14:40

OK, OK - I won't split the vote...

Change vote: Get 1.

You wascawwy wabbit!!!

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 14:42

OK, OK - I won't split the vote...

Change vote: Get 1.

You wascawwy wabbit!!!

Technically the people voting for get are splitting the vote.

get_1

03/08/2011, 14:47

I really abhor this meta vote for me.

It's unbecoming of whoever jumps on it.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 14:49

I really abhor this meta vote for me.

It's unbecoming of whoever jumps on it.

Most day 1 votes are meta votes.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 14:51

Vote Count:

JacinB: (2) kontrol, Quebbs,
get: (4) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx
Rokk: (1) JacinB

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 16 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 14:54

I'm going to side with the silent majority on this.

Vote: No Lynch

Silver Lantern

03/08/2011, 14:56

I really abhor this meta vote for me.

It's unbecoming of whoever jumps on it.

What happened to Townies don't play with fear?!! :p

Heh. Vote: Get_1

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 14:56

I'm going to side with the silent majority on this.

Vote: No LynchSomeone needs to die!
Fixed it for you.

Rokk_Krinn

03/08/2011, 14:57

All can rejoice as I am here! remember to be honorable and mind your selves! Villains beware any devious deeds will be met with swift punishment!

You hinting at something here?

Also, know what would have been a cool Mafia for this game? Factor Three. :)*

*No, I've no knowledge of what composes the Mafia. Just thinking it very unlikely that Factor Three is the Mafia in an X-Factor game...or any game, for that matter.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 14:59

Vote Count:

JacinB: (2) kontrol, Quebbs,
get: (5) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 16 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 15:16

Technically the people voting for get are splitting the vote.

Yes.

Vote: JacinB

Just because he says he'll be back to say something doesn't mean he will.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 15:28

Vote Count:

JacinB: (3) kontrol, Quebbs, Truff
get: (5) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 16 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Cornucopia

03/08/2011, 15:29

I'm going to side with the silent majority on this.

Vote: No Lynch

I wonder if going no lynch would be considered accomplishing something? If we got majority on this, then we would close the day phase early. That's accomplishing something. Sort of.

I have a feeling the mod may not feel the same way though.

Cornucopia

03/08/2011, 15:32

Sorry get, but I'm going to side with the vocal majority on this. Simply because it's the majority, not meta. Unfortunately, meta is how some of these Day 1 trains get started.

Vote: get_1

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 15:32

I wonder if going no lynch would be considered accomplishing something? If we got majority on this, then we would close the day phase early. That's accomplishing something. Sort of.

I have a feeling the mod may not feel the same way though.

I have a feeling more than one person might be modkilled if we tried a thing like that.
Not that I'd want to, even if I thought I could get away with it. I like day 1 pressure.

VenomDaBomb

03/08/2011, 15:35

Vote: JacinB

you are unknown to me! reveal yourself or face certain Smiting!

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 15:35

Vote Count:

JacinB: (4) kontrol, Quebbs, Truff, VDB
get: (6) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL, corn
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 15.5 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 15:36

Heading home. Don't expect an update for a while. It's geek night.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 15:38

Vote: geek night

Ouchmaker

03/08/2011, 15:39

Vote: get for pressure only.

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 15:44

The difference in votes is very interesting.

You know what else is interesting? JacinB leaving and saying he'll post more later.
To me, that's a subtle way of getting people to vote for Get, since we know JacinB wont be around to give us information so we will go with someone that is.

Very interesting.

get_1

03/08/2011, 15:56

I understand why IR started the vote on me (vendetta for his own silliness in another game), but two things I don't understand are why the rest of you are voting/voted for me and why others are voting for JacinB.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:06

The difference in votes is very interesting.

You know what else is interesting? JacinB leaving and saying he'll post more later.
Yeah, I'm actually working during a work day. Whodathunkit. :o :)
To me, that's a subtle way of getting people to vote for Get, since we know JacinB wont be around to give us information so we will go with someone that is.

Very interesting.
It wasn't anything with sinister intent, I assure you.

Like I said, though I'd really prefer not to, I'm willing to claim if it prevents someone from dying. However, as I think it'd make me a target, I'd rather not do so if simply generating discussion is enough to meet Stan's "do something" requirement.

And, with the "generating discussion may be enough to avert a mod-kill" idea (which is guided by previous experience in Stan's games and would both help the Town by generating information and by averting needless random deaths) in mind, I was thinking that if it's discussion we want, looking elsewhere would be a good idea because the time I can spend here today is limited and, thus, not much discussion can be generated.

Rokk_Krinn

03/08/2011, 16:09

Well you're here now so that would make discussion do'able now.

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 16:09

Yeah, I'm actually working during a work day. Whodathunkit. :o :)

It wasn't anything with sinister intent, I assure you.

Like I said, though I'd really prefer not to, I'm willing to claim if it prevents someone from dying. However, as I think it'd make me a target, I'd rather not do so if simply generating discussion is enough to meet Stan's "do something" requirement.

And, with the "generating discussion may be enough to avert a mod-kill" idea (which is guided by previous experience in Stan's games and would both help the Town by generating information and by averting needless random deaths) in mind, I was thinking that if it's discussion we want, looking elsewhere would be a good idea because the time I can spend here today is limited and, thus, not much discussion can be generated.I feel my vote is in the right place right now.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:13

I don't understand are why the rest of you are voting/voted for me and why others are voting for JacinB.
We're easy targets?

(Price of fame, I suppose.)

The ones I find interesting aren't necessarily the ones that pushed for me early, but those that have come in and hopped on my train here later.

Venom is clearly claiming someone from the story, so I'm not doubting him (yet); I just assume he's not really paying attention.

But, Truffle's only activity has been to hop on and toss a vote at me long after the pressure had clearly changed to you. That seems a little fishy to me.

get_1

03/08/2011, 16:15

Get an avatar, JacinB.

The last time you didn't have one and we played in a game together, I remember one of us dying immediately because people "needed a way to stop getting us confused."

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:15

Well you're here now so that would make discussion do'able now.
For a bit, anyway.

I do have got one more project I've got to get done in the next hour and forty-five minutes or so.

I'll be as available as I can be while my attention is divided, though.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:18

Get an avatar, JacinB.

The last time you didn't have one and we played in a game together, I remember one of us dying immediately because people "needed a way to stop getting us confused."
I don't think that's why either of us died early. :noid:

get_1

03/08/2011, 16:22

I don't think that's why either of us died early. :noid:

I need a way to stop getting us confused. And I've got the market cornered on lack of avatar. Or sig. Or friends.

:cheeky:

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 16:25

I need a way to stop getting us confused. And I've got the market cornered on lack of avatar. Or sig. Or friends.

:cheeky:

You do realize that half the members of this site (about 20,000...) have never made any posts?

get_1

03/08/2011, 16:26

Don't worry. The Spring Cleaning Holocaust will soon take care of them... :devious:

Rokk_Krinn

03/08/2011, 16:30

eternalrage

03/08/2011, 16:30

Don't worry. The Spring Cleaning Holocaust will soon take care of them... :devious:

Are you finllay going to get rid of ! cofory !?

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:37

Lynch JacinB - we can pressure get_1 later but being Jacin says he's only around for a bit longer, it makes sense to focus on him for the time being.

(Besides, even if he hadn't jokingly voted for me, I'm curious about whether there was deliberate effort to sway away from him -or- get.)
Alrighty, then.

Without giving power(s), I'll just say that I don't think I'm the only one of me here.

That clarify things?

Quebbster

03/08/2011, 16:48

Alrighty, then.

Without giving power(s), I'll just say that I don't think I'm the only one of me here.

That clarify things?

This sounds a little like "whoever got this role should not be surprised that I have it too" to me... not sure I like it.
That said, it's still a claim that can be inspected by info gatherers, and on day 1 that is good enough for me.
remove vote

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 16:53

Even I can guess that probably means Multiple Man, correct?

get_1

03/08/2011, 16:53

So you punch him and he'll multiply?

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 16:54

This sounds a little like "whoever got this role should not be surprised that I have it too" to me... not sure I like it.
That said, it's still a claim that can be inspected by info gatherers, and on day 1 that is good enough for me.
remove vote

Oh, I want it said.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 16:54

And I find it interesting and slightly amusing that Jacin supposedly doesn't get why I voted for him.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:56

And I find it interesting and slightly amusing that Jacin supposedly doesn't get why I voted for him.
Am I supposed to?

JacinB

03/08/2011, 16:58

So you punch him and he'll multiply?
That's not my power, no.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 17:03

That's not my power, no.

So you are Multiple Man?

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 17:04

That's not my power, no.

I thought I was pretty clear. Others seemed to get it. *shrugs*

JacinB

03/08/2011, 17:08

So you are Multiple Man?
To be even more clear than that, I was given a particular delineation stating that I was one with a beard.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 17:09

Okay.

Remove vote

charlesx

03/08/2011, 17:10

So you punch him and he'll multiply?

Not if you punch him beneath the belt, no. :p

JacinB, do you have the title Multiple Man or is your role named Jamie Madrox (or Madrox)? Please reply. This could be important.

Rokk_Krinn

03/08/2011, 17:15

Oddly, earlier I felt Chaz was fishing around with his Multiple Man question.

DarqFeonix

03/08/2011, 17:29

Oddly, earlier I felt Chaz was fishing around with his Multiple Man question.

A nice pickup, it popped out to me as well.

Combined with his post above you, he's not being very subtle about it :laugh:

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 17:30

I feel like in the end everyone will end up realizing that they are multiple man too.

Immortal_Raven

03/08/2011, 17:35

I feel like in the end everyone will end up realizing that they are multiple man too.

Makes you wonder how many schizophrenic/MPD men from TV and movies we'll have here. It would fit the "Multiple Men" theme, especially with Stan in charge. If Alpha from Dollhouse shows up, I will not be surprised.

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 17:37

Makes you wonder how many schizophrenic/MPD men from TV and movies we'll have here. It would fit the "Multiple Men" theme, especially with Stan in charge. If Alpha from Dollhouse shows up, I will not be surprised.

Too bad Charlie Sheen's been fired, I'd expect him too.

VenomDaBomb

03/08/2011, 17:42

We're easy targets?

Venom is clearly claiming someone from the story, so I'm not doubting him (yet); I just assume he's not really paying attention.

You Nav! Claiming thou does not know thy own surrounding!

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 18:03

You Nav! Claiming thou does not know thy own surrounding!

Was Thor in the story arc featuring Hela?

Also, I believe you mean knave...

eternalrage

03/08/2011, 18:07

Was Thor in the story arc featuring Hela?

Also, I believe you mean knave...

Yes, Thor was in that arc.

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 18:15

Was Thor in the story arc featuring Hela?

Also, I believe you mean knave...

You mean he doesn't mean Navi from Zelda?

Too bad, she was annoying. Calling someone a Navi would be quite the insult.

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 18:17

Vote Count:

JacinB: (2) kontrol, VDB
get: (7) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL, corn, Ouch
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 13 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

Giggyex

03/08/2011, 18:26

Signing in.
Wow. This thread got really big in one day.
Vote: JacinB

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 18:28

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Wow. This thread got really big in one day.
Vote: JacinB

So you'd rather vote for the person who has two votes than seven?

Why's that?

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 18:39

So you'd rather vote for the person who has two votes than seven?

Why's that?

Because seven votes seems like plenty of pressure for a day one vote with no real leads... :ermm:

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 18:40

Because seven votes seems like plenty of pressure for a day one vote with no real leads... :ermm:

Says the guy voting for a no lynch, which will result in blood.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 18:52

Because seven votes seems like plenty of pressure for a day one vote with no real leads... :ermm:

Hm, so willing to vote for me and string me up on day two simply for nothing more than having not spoken on day 1, yet here so protective of get_1, who is pretending to not understand the D1 pressure in a Stan game.

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 18:57

I'm just defending Giggyex for not voting for Get_1 as there's no good reason for anyone to be on that train. I've played in Stan's games before and am not concerned by the threat of someone dying. I'm also not a fan of day one pressure because there is absolutely no valid information yet. Day two changes everything.

If you want to pressure Get_1, great, I don't care. We may even get some info.

If you want to misdirect suspicion onto Giggyex for not pressuring someone besides Get_1, then we have a problem.

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 19:01

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:02

Well, Giggy's vote completely confuses me. Does he want a power claim from Jason? Is there some other reason he's continuing pressure on Jacin? Or is it because he's new? Did he not see the claim?

I find it odd and odder still you would defend him not voting for get_1 rather than question the continued pressure on Jacin.

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:06

At this point, I'd rather pressure you.

You don't care if someone dies? That's not very Town-like.

Yeah... I don't recall people randomly dying for there not having been a lynch day one of either BoP game. Collect me if I'm wrong, but I believe the threat implies the mafia, SK, etc... will kill someone after the day ends.

I just don't believe the threat is real and that any suspicion kicked up on day one tends to play into the mafia's hands.

I find it odd and odder still you would defend him not voting for get_1 rather than question the continued pressure on Jacin.

I missed the claim initially and he is new. I find it more likely that he made an honest mistake than he is mafia making an awful play.

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:07

That should say, "Correct me if I'm wrong..."

Oops.

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 19:08

I missed the claim initially and he is new. I find it more likely that he made an honest mistake than he is mafia making an awful play.

JacinB is new eh?

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:09

We may even get some info.

I don't think any of us who are used to Stan's games believe there will be a death if no lynch goes through, as long as something is accomplished.

I'm just finding the difference in your attitude this game and the other game intriguing. You seemed so gung-ho that game, though it might just be I'm more sensitive to it because I was the focus. :)

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:11

JacinB is new eh?

I'm referring to Giggyex, as I don't recall playing in a game with him before... Are we talking about the same thing?

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 19:13

I'm referring to Giggyex, as I don't recall playing in a game with him before... Are we talking about the same thing?

Now we are.

Alright how about this deadshot, if you think nothing will happen then why don't you bold the fact that none of us will add anymore votes, and if Stan needs to kill someone for it, you offer yourself.

Since you're not afraid of the threat and all.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:14

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:20

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:32

In that case, pressure has been applied, some information has been obtained, there is no longer a reason to heap votes on one individual.

No reason to distrust giggyex, just because he doesn't want to vote for the lead pressure subject. The fact that JacinB has already provided some help is a real reason, but I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt as a vote for JacinB is a crappy mafia play and a mistake I made as well.

Giggyex

03/08/2011, 19:33

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:39

deadshot, I'm just gonna say you would not do well, nor likely have any fun, in a vanilla game. :laugh:

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:42

deadshot, I'm just gonna say you would not do well, nor likely have any fun, in a vanilla game. :laugh:

I actually started in vanilla games. I'm usually the one to run games at parties. I just find that both story-based games and online games are completely different sorts of monsters and require a drastically differentiated strategies.

I would like to play in an online vanilla game at some point, to at least see how they play.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 19:47

I actually started in vanilla games. I'm usually the one to run games at parties. I just find that both story-based games and online games are completely different sorts of monsters and require a drastically differentiated strategies.

I would like to play in an online vanilla game at some point, to at least see how they play.

I'll have to run another one soon then. Just for you. ;)

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 19:49

I'll have to run another one soon then. Just for you. ;)

Thanks. I'm glad something good has come out of this. :)

DarqFeonix

03/08/2011, 19:56

I'll have to run another one soon then. Just for you. ;)

This is a great idea!

Anyway... my spreadsheet is telling me that in a game of 26 players, a Mafia of 7 players is likely.

The following 7 players haven't posted to the game yet:
HavokAndChaos
Iceman425
mbauers
michiganj24
Morpheousdr3am3r
pbdeberry
tyroman

There's your Mafia. :noid:

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 20:19

This is a great idea!

Anyway... my spreadsheet is telling me that in a game of 26 players, a Mafia of 7 players is likely.

The following 7 players haven't posted to the game yet:
HavokAndChaos
Iceman425
mbauers
michiganj24
Morpheousdr3am3r
pbdeberry
tyroman

There's your Mafia. :noid:

:laugh: Hey, you were right that one time. :)

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 20:33

The following 7 players haven't posted to the game yet:
HavokAndChaos
Iceman425
mbauers
michiganj24
Morpheousdr3am3r
pbdeberry
tyroman

There's your Mafia. :noid:

That's not a bad list to start from and is probably the best information we've retrieved in day one. Cops and vigs take notice.

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 20:39

That's not a bad list to start from and is probably the best information we've retrieved in day one. Cops and vigs take notice.

Which for some reason makes me want to say deadshot is probably mafia and none of his teammates are on that list. :laugh:

Morpheousdr3am3r

03/08/2011, 20:42

I hadn't posted until now because I was at work and didn't know this opened. I'm here now and fine deadshot just a little on the suspicious side. I'm happy with Jacin's claim, so I don't think I need to put a vote there. I will how ever Lynch Iceman because I have nothing better to do than beat that dead horse. (not Ice, but the silly day one vendetta from ages ago)

Mr Stranger

03/08/2011, 20:44

Truffle Shuffle

03/08/2011, 20:44

Thanks. I'm glad something good has come out of this. :)

Signed you up.

deadshot042

03/08/2011, 20:50

Signed you up.

Thanks.

Also, I'm beginning to relearn why I should play more quietly during the first few days and let others defend themselves.

That list is a good starting point though. I wish I could pull up some statistics on this, maybe those of you with advanced Excel layouts can help, but I would place serious money that mafia members average the lowest number of posts on day one.

I'd say go through the list and find out who normally posts once or less during the first day and you will have "accomplished something."

sstralkowski

03/08/2011, 21:51

Vote Count:

JacinB: (3) kontrol, VDB, Giggy
get: (7) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL, corn, Ouch
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot
Ice: (1) Morph

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 9 hours left to accomplish something or someone dies.

tyroman

03/08/2011, 22:12

uh, uh, not silenced! :grin:

just a busy day at work. :p maybe it's darq.

JacinB

03/08/2011, 22:37

JacinB is new eh?
Not new, no, but I can understand where people might get that impression.

(And, yes, I know the original "he's new" comments weren't about me.)
There is a method to my madness. Trust me. The mafia would all vote to lynch a townsmen and kill interlopers later like JacinB.
I'm not an interloper, I'm a free man!

(Wait, no, that's not how that bit goes.)

get_1

03/08/2011, 22:40

Hm, so willing to vote for me and string me up on day two simply for nothing more than having not spoken on day 1, yet here so protective of get_1, who is pretending to not understand the D1 pressure in a Stan game.

No, I understand the urge to be productive.

I don't understand why people jumped on IR's vendetta vote for me, though. I've already got a big target on my back for some godforsaken reason. The last thing I'd need is to make it even bigger by garnering votes on Day 1.

get_1

03/08/2011, 22:42

Now we are.

Alright how about this deadshot, if you think nothing will happen then why don't you bold the fact that none of us will add anymore votes, and if Stan needs to kill someone for it, you offer yourself.

Since you're not afraid of the threat and all.

You already got a claim out of JacinB. There's thoughts, machinations, discussions, etc. coming from Rokk and charlesx's corners as a result of that.

I'd say this Day 1 has already been quite productive.

get_1

03/08/2011, 22:44

I'll have to run another one soon then. Just for you. ;)

Better make sure it's actually vanilla. Wouldn't want the plebeians complaining about a "not-so-vanilla Vanilla game," now would we? :cheeky:

Cornucopia

03/08/2011, 23:05

Okay, I'm pretty sure this is the deal. If we were to go no lynch, and no pressure is applied resulting in no discussion or information, then Stan -will- randomly kill someone. I believe that is how it goes. The fact that it hasn't happened in any of his games is because we always pressure, which leads to discussion and information. Stan is a huge supporter of pressure and being aggressive. It's his natural play style. He sometimes dials it down because it ends up getting him killed early in subsequent games. We don't have to lynch anyone, just pressure and discuss. Ergo the pressure. And get_1 knows this so I find it funny that he's being all "why?"

Knowing Stan as I do, I would completely agree with this analysis. When I first started playing, Day 1 tended to be a bunch of No Lynch votes. Which would either end the day phase early or result in a few pages of worthless banter.

Stan's threat has never been exacted on us, because the threat is enough to garner discussion. That discussion has led to people slipping up and making bad fake claims. Or giving a power that doesn't fit the character. It's also helped to decide who to target during the night based upon how they respond to pressure or how and when they jump on a lynch train. I have found that the Day 1 discussion can prove very useful.

VenomDaBomb

03/09/2011, 00:20

Was Thor in the story arc featuring Hela?

Also, I believe you mean knave...

HAHAHAHA Good Jest! However If Knave is what I meant it would have said. Now Come, Tell me your story of this Knave!?

HAHAHAHAHA

By the beard of a frost Giant...

Morpheousdr3am3r

03/09/2011, 03:09

Knowing Stan as I do, I would completely agree with this analysis. When I first started playing, Day 1 tended to be a bunch of No Lynch votes. Which would either end the day phase early or result in a few pages of worthless banter.

Stan's threat has never been exacted on us, because the threat is enough to garner discussion. That discussion has led to people slipping up and making bad fake claims. Or giving a power that doesn't fit the character. It's also helped to decide who to target during the night based upon how they respond to pressure or how and when they jump on a lynch train. I have found that the Day 1 discussion can prove very useful.
Day one discussion really does help. I know most night ones I have no clue what to do. Days like this can really help guide people.

Quebbster

03/09/2011, 04:42

Heck, in Stand-up comedy I was able to guess on day 1 that deadshot and Wade were Mafia buddies...

sstralkowski

03/09/2011, 06:21

Vote Count:

JacinB: (3) kontrol, VDB, Giggy
get: (7) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL, corn, Ouch
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot
Ice: (1) Morph

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

You have roughly 40 minutes left to accomplish something or someone dies.

sstralkowski

03/09/2011, 06:23

I have a bunch of work to do first thing this morning. If I'm not back to close the thread right at 7am EST, then all votes cast after that time will not count. Quebbs, if you feel like closing, feel free. I'll post the final count and write-up as soon as I can.

Quebbster

03/09/2011, 06:27

Quebbster

03/09/2011, 06:32

It's interesting that the guy who a few people wanted to claim did so, but the guy who was halfway to majority did not by the way.

sstralkowski

03/09/2011, 07:02

Vote Count:

JacinB: (3) kontrol, VDB, Giggy
get: (7) IR, normal, eternalrage, charlesx, SL, corn, Ouch
Rokk: (1) JacinB
no lynch: (1) deadshot
Ice: (1) Morph

With 26 players, 14 is a majority.

sstralkowski

03/09/2011, 07:06

Day 1:

Flames erupted everywhere. The mutants took a few seconds to let their eyes adjust before they realized that their was a horde of undead heading straight for them. The group scattered and couldn't regain any cohesion before they were overrun. It was all they could do to retreat to a dark cavern and regroup.

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 07:20

Effective immediately, PaxZRake will replace mbauers at mbauers request. Good luck with work, buddy.

My spreadsheet is officially closed. If you missed sending an action, then doom on you!

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 08:47

Night 1:

The battle raged as fists flew, weapons sliced and blood was spilled. And yet, the mutants worked together to prevent any major attrocities to their own. All in all, they'd done well, but how long would their luck hold out in this world of eternal suffering?

In a dark cavern hallway, a timid man crept along the shadows. He came to a chamber of sorts where a man was huddled over a fire. The man was wearing an ancient helm and a large cape that his long flowing hair rested on. "Oh thank the Lord," sighed the timid man. "I was afraid I'd never make it out of here alive. I don't belong here. I'm no warrior. Can you please keep me safe?" The large man by the fire smiled an evil grin, his grey and broken teeth absorbing the fire's light like tiny black holes. "Sure, have a seat," the large man motioned to a rock next to him, while still keeping his back to the timid man. The large man's sunken eyes blazed with a fire all their own as the timid man came within reach. The anticipation of what was to come had stirred something deep within him that he'd not felt in ages. The large man put his arm around the timid man. "No one can get to you here, brother. No one will know where you are." Noticing an odd tone in the voice, the timid man looked up from the fire and gasped when his gaze was met with the large man's bloodthirsty grin. Suddenly the duplicity of the large man's words occurred to him. He screamed in horror as the large man crashed his hammer down on the timid man's head, splattering grey matter all over the small chamber. The large man savored his feast. It had been so long since he'd eaten. He knew the meal would never sate his hunger, but he still took immense pleasure in the act. Morpheousdr3am3r is dead. He was John Madrox. Alignment: X-Factor

The shimmering figure appeared in front of the black haired person. She was bent over slightly and reaching for something. her blue glow bathing the cavern in a soothing cool light. Then she stood upright and began to speak. "Help me *skrrrkkkk* *kzzk* only hope." The shimmering woman glanced over her shoulder as if she was being followed and then bent down and reached out again before disappearing. The black haired person just stood there puzzled.

The fat man glided down the earthen corridors, an imperius look on his face. When he strode up to a slender man in a white coat, the man looked at him curiously. "What do you want?" asked the man in white. "Don't take that tone with men, knave. Do you not recognize the face of your king?" "I have no king, but if I did, he would certainly be more battle worthy than one such as you." *gasp* "I'll have you killed for such a slight." The man in white was sick of talking. He was still pumped up from the earlier battle and was ready for more. "blah blah I'm awesome blah blah" is all the man in white heard, and he wanted it to stop so he simply made it stop. Or more accurately, his swords made it stop. pbdeberry is dead. He was King Henry VIII. Alignment: Ex-Factor

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:01

So....

X-Factor = town, Ex-Factor = neutral?

Also, looks like we have Zombie Thor running around and eating people.

Other than that, I gots nothing.

normalview

03/10/2011, 09:19

The fat man glided down the earthen corridors, an imperius look on his face. When he strode up to a slender man in a white coat, the man looked at him curiously. "What do you want?" asked the man in white. "Don't take that tone with men, knave. Do you not recognize the face of your king?" "I have no king, but if I did, he would certainly be more battle worthy than one such as you." *gasp* "I'll have you killed for such a slight." The man in white was sick of talking. He was still pumped up from the earlier battle and was ready for more. "blah blah I'm awesome blah blah" is all the man in white heard, and he wanted it to stop so he simply made it stop. Or more accurately, his swords made it stop. pbdeberry is dead. He was King Henry VIII. Alignment: Ex-Factor

I am reading that as Shatterstar killing King Henry.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:31

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:33

The shimmering figure appeared in front of the black haired person. She was bent over slightly and reaching for something. her blue glow bathing the cavern in a soothing cool light. Then she stood upright and began to speak. "Help me *skrrrkkkk* *kzzk* only hope." The shimmering woman glanced over her shoulder as if she was being followed and then bent down and reached out again before disappearing. The black haired person just stood there puzzled.

Shimmering figure = Princess Leia. Pretty sure of it.

Another Ex-Factor?

JacinB

03/10/2011, 09:36

Venom, you pretty much claimed Thor yesterday. Who did you target last night?

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:41

Good question.

It's a starting point, anyhow.

Vote: Lynch VDB.

normalview

03/10/2011, 09:41

Good catch.

Shatterstar would make sense as the Vig. I never read X-Factor if/when Shatterstar was on the team, but I do know that he was in a relationship with Rictor. That would make him a townie.

So we have a (potential) Vig hit.

We have Zombie Thor (Hel?) which could be a mafia hit.

No sign of the SK, though. Curious.

Shatterstar or not, I don't think that was our Vig. For one, most Vigs won't kill night 1 unless they've got a really good reason to do so; the chances of hitting a townie are too high with no real info. Also, based on the write-up, it looks like King Henry targeted Shatterstar (KH strode up to Mr. Whitecoat), so that makes me think it might actually be a PGO kill.

Or maybe I am reading too much into the details of the write up. If Whitecoat/shatterstar did make a kill, though, I am leaning more towards something more nefarious, like SK, just because I don't like the thought of a reckless vig.

Shimmering figure = Princess Leia. Pretty sure of it.

Another Ex-Factor?

Good catch. I'd totally buy that.

normalview

03/10/2011, 09:42

Venom, you pretty much claimed Thor yesterday. Who did you target last night?

Good question.

It's a starting point, anyhow.

Vote: Lynch VDB.

Works for me. Vote: VDB

Immortal_Raven

03/10/2011, 09:45

Vote:VDB

It's a decent place to start. Doesn't appear to be any failed kills in the write-up, so mafia hit and PGO are my best guesses. That lttile paragraph in the middle screams Princess Leia, but "blue glow" has me at a loss.

deadshot042

03/10/2011, 09:45

Vote: Mbauers

Kill it. Kill it with a fork.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:45

Also, based on the write-up, it looks like King Henry targeted Shatterstar (KH strode up to Mr. Whitecoat), so that makes me think it might actually be a PGO kill.

That also makes sense. Vig refrains from N1 kill, and Shatterstar is a PGO (given his temper.) Wikipedia tells me that he is a current member of X-Factor and shows him wearing a white coat. There you have it.

deadshot042

03/10/2011, 09:46

Vote: Mbauers

Kill it. Kill it with a fork.

Excuse me.

Lynch: PaxZRake

Kill it. Kill it with a fork.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:47

That lttile paragraph in the middle screams Princess Leia, but "blue glow" has me at a loss.

"Blue glow" = holograph of Princess Leia saying "Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."

Deadshot, what evidence against mbauers/PaxZRake?

JacinB

03/10/2011, 09:48

Shatterstar or not, I don't think that was our Vig. For one, most Vigs won't kill night 1 unless they've got a really good reason to do so; the chances of hitting a townie are too high with no real info. Also, based on the write-up, it looks like King Henry targeted Shatterstar (KH strode up to Mr. Whitecoat), so that makes me think it might actually be a PGO kill.
That might actually make sense if King Henry VIII was the hitman for the Ex-Factor mafia last night.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:49

That might actually make sense if King Henry VIII was the hitman for the Ex-Factor mafia last night.

Except that Stan's OP clearly states that mafia alignment = "Hel" and town alignment = "X-Factor". King Henry is aligned with "Ex-Factor" and therefore probably not mafia (neutral, maybe.)

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 09:52

I targeted Normalview last nite... To me it reeks of a ghost written Hit! as i was very clear Of who I am and they are trying to get an easy frame up.

deadshot042

03/10/2011, 09:52

Deadshot, what evidence against mbauers/PaxZRake?

You're not listening.

Kill it.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:55

You're not listening.

Kill it.

Sorry, I am not getting the allusion. Can you be a little clearer, please?

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 09:55

Excuse me.

Lynch: PaxZRake

Kill it. Kill it with a fork.

This is interesting... would like a little me more... I would back you if you have something...

JacinB

03/10/2011, 09:56

Except that Stan's OP clearly states that mafia alignment = "Hel" and town alignment = "X-Factor". King Henry is aligned with "Ex-Factor" and therefore probably not mafia (neutral, maybe.)
Okay, fair point.

I just assumed when Stan said that there was a town and a mafia (Hel) and that "Of course, those aren't the only alignments present." (emphasis mine) that would mean that we're likely looking at a second mafia (you know, other than 'Hel'), too, with a few random Neutrals thrown in for the sake of confusion.

Immortal_Raven

03/10/2011, 09:57

Except that Stan's OP clearly states that mafia alignment = "Hel" and town alignment = "X-Factor". King Henry is aligned with "Ex-Factor" and therefore probably not mafia (neutral, maybe.)

Well, there are 26 people to start the game. Could be a second, smaller mafia, much like Serpent Society and Gotham City Sirens from the previous games. Just look for a character with more ex-spouses than they have fingers on one hand. Or he could be a neutral.

Deadshot, you have to do better than Kill it. Even if you said, "Oh it's Mr. Burns, Kill It!" I might believe you.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 09:57

This is interesting... would like a little me more... I would back you if you have something...

It's also deflecting the vote away from you.

Are you Thor?

JacinB

03/10/2011, 10:00

I targeted Normalview last nite... To me it reeks of a ghost written Hit! as i was very clear Of who I am and they are trying to get an easy frame up.
How sure are you about that?

charlesx

03/10/2011, 10:03

Venom, I think that a role claim is in order.

Are you Thor?

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:08

How sure are you about that?

how sure am I about what?

that I targeted Normal... i am pretty sure...

that they can ghost write hit? not sure at all, but its really detailed on who the hitter is ancient helm, cape, attack with a hammer Stan would not write a hit like that. and if I was a mafia or even zombie thor why would i claim it... the fact you think I am deflecting even after I answered who my target was has me wondering about your alignment there charsx...

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:09

Venom, I think that a role claim is in order.

Are you Thor?

And yes if my day one hints were not enough.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 10:12

And yes if my day one hints were not enough.

Well if you're really really Thor, thereth an ointment that you can uthe for that.:laugh:

deadshot042

03/10/2011, 10:13

Pax is mafia.

Can we kill it now?

Ouchmaker

03/10/2011, 10:15

Vote: Pax, atleast pressure worthy.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 10:15

Well, sheesh - that's all you had to say!!

:cool:

Change vote: PaxZRake.

"I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart!!!!"

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:17

vote: PaxZRake
and I don't like charles' fishing for info, either.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 10:19

vote: PaxZRake
and I don't like charles' fishing for info, either.

...because after you cast a vote you proceed to change it based on zero info, other than "kill it?"

BTW, Venom is not yet off the hook. I can see Stan including a Zombie Thor as part of the Hel mafia.

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:22

...because after you cast a vote you proceed to change it based on zero info, other than "kill it?"
I don't like it when info gatherers have to expose just what evidence they have before the accused has had a chance to claim. It makes it too easy to explain away. Your mileage may of course vary.

Immortal_Raven

03/10/2011, 10:22

change vote: Pax

Not 100% comfy with VDB, but he did claim under little pressure. Two claims early is always good for a day phase.

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 10:23

Vote Count:

VDB: (1) normal,
Pax: (5) deadshot, ouch, charlesx, Quebbs, IR

With 24 players remaining, 13 is a majority.

JacinB

03/10/2011, 10:24

Pax is mafia.

Can we kill it now?
I can dig it.

Vote: PaxZRake.

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 10:25

Vote Count:

VDB: (1) normal,
Pax: (6) deadshot, ouch, charlesx, Quebbs, IR, Jacin

With 24 players remaining, 13 is a majority.

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 10:26

I find it to be a play style difference Quebbs, but I'm with you.

Though, since I've allegedly been copped, I'm guessing, since I didn't have time to submit an action last night, I'll just claim.

I'm Simon Cowell. My role is, and I paraphrase, to act like a smarmy dick. I can also do things at night, but I'll hold onto that for right now, but being a smarmy dick is apparently important, so, piss off please.

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:32

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:33

sounds like a hot lead. Pax thou shall speak or face certain Judgement!

Vote PAx

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:35

change vote: Pax

Not 100% comfy with VDB, but he did claim under little pressure. Two claims early is always good for a day phase.

are you serious? you don't think its strange that I claim day one and all of a sudden i am sooooo clearly in the write... :ermm:

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 10:36

Vote Count:

VDB: (1) normal,
Pax: (7) deadshot, ouch, charlesx, Quebbs, IR, Jacin, VDB

With 24 players remaining, 13 is a majority.

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 10:36

Nice claim. Not enough to move my vote though.

Really, you don't want to be the first guy to move against the cop?

Well, get off my stage, get off my show, and if I ever see you in public I'll do you the respect of pretending this never happened.

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:39

Really, you don't want to be the first guy to move against the cop?

Well, get off my stage, get off my show, and if I ever see you in public I'll do you the respect of pretending this never happened.

See, if I had more than a vague idea about who Simon Cowell is that might be funny to me. But it's not.

JacinB

03/10/2011, 10:44

are you serious? you don't think its strange that I claim day one and all of a sudden i am sooooo clearly in the write... :ermm:
I could see it.

I mean, if you were Zombie Thor rather than regular Thor, you'd want to play yourself off as regular Thor as he'd've been part of the Town in this storyline. Then, when you show up in the write-up eating people, you can say, "Verily, that's some evil-doer ghost-writing me as, look, I'm not a zombie Thor I'm a regular Thor, which I clearly claimed yesterday!"

Of course, that's probably the least likely explanation, which is why I'm not voting for you. Unless you eat someone else tonight.

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 10:44

See, if I had more than a vague idea about who Simon Cowell is that might be funny to me. But it's not.

I just know him from The Soup. Apparently he has a show, The X-Factor, which is where this game is taking place.

Kind of nifty.

Do you get The Soup over there?

...

Prat.

JacinB

03/10/2011, 10:46

See, if I had more than a vague idea about who Simon Cowell is that might be funny to me. But it's not.
Hang on. You seriously don't know who Simon Cowell is ... ?!

JacinB

03/10/2011, 10:48

I just know him from The Soup. Apparently he has a show, The X-Factor, which is where this game is taking place.
I thought we were in Hell with zombie Thor? :noid:

'Course, being on any show with Simon Cowell as a judge ... well, yeah, that might still be Hell. :cheeky:

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:48

Do you get The Soup over there?
Not that I know of.

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 10:49

Hang on. You seriously don't know who Simon Cowell is ... ?!

I have a vague idea, as I said. He was a guest voice on The Simpsons once, after all.

normalview

03/10/2011, 10:52

I can buy the Simon Cowell claim. I guess I can also see the Thor-as-Ghost-Writer angle, too. So REMOVE VOTE for now.

But if Zombe Thor does smash/eat someone else tonight, I know where my vote is going tomorrow ;)

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:54

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 10:58

I could see it.

I mean, if you were Zombie Thor rather than regular Thor, you'd want to play yourself off as regular Thor as he'd've been part of the Town in this storyline. Then, when you show up in the write-up eating people, you can say, "Verily, that's some evil-doer ghost-writing me as, look, I'm not a zombie Thor I'm a regular Thor, which I clearly claimed yesterday!"

Of course, that's probably the least likely explanation, which is why I'm not voting for you. Unless you eat someone else tonight.

but i am not arugeing is it possible that a zombie or whaeverwhatever could be here. i am arguing in mafia the mods job is to do a write up that hints at things not bluntly cops palyers, a large man with a cape would have been enough. the fact that a hammer is mentioned and a helm ect makes it over kill and something Stan would not do... thats my main point.

sstralkowski

03/10/2011, 11:02

Vote Count:

Pax: (7) deadshot, ouch, charlesx, Quebbs, IR, Jacin, VDB

With 24 players remaining, 13 is a majority.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:14

Ok, first paragraph seems like perhaps more than one protector successfully protected the same person.

Second reads to me as thought a hider hid with the wrong person. And who would a hider hide with? Perhaps the only person to have claimed? Just a thought.

What is Princess Leia doing here and what does *skrrrk* *kzzk* supposed to mean? Static so we don't hear the name?

I read the last paragraph as possible PGO. Would that make sense at all for Shatterstar? Oh, I see normal addressed that. I agree with PGO.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:16

And I see I need to catch up more. You people are talking fast.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:25

A ghost write that results in an ACTUAL DEATH? Seriously?

Oh, and I could see a hider hiding with someone who was alluding to a town role as well.

Pax, what is your alignment?

JacinB

03/10/2011, 11:26

Second reads to me as thought a hider hid with the wrong person. And who would a hider hide with? Perhaps the only person to have claimed? Just a thought.
That's actually a pretty good point. Were I a hider, I'd probably duck into what I thought was Thor's room, given the claims we had yesterday, as I'd assume that to be pretty safe.

The thing is, though, that that would mean that zombie Thor was a PGO, too, as the likelihood of a zombie Thor being a hitter and targetting the person who just happened to duck into room with him is pretty slim.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:28

Who is John Madrox?

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:30

That's actually a pretty good point. Were I a hider, I'd probably duck into what I thought was Thor's room, given the claims we had yesterday, as I'd assume that to be pretty safe.

The thing is, though, that that would mean that zombie Thor was a PGO, too, as the likelihood of a zombie Thor being a hitter and targetting the person who just happened to duck into room with him is pretty slim.

No, I'm saying Zombie Thor is mafia. The hider hid with mafia, therefore was killed. That's usually how the role works. A hider hides with town they are safe for the night. They hide with mafia they are killed. ZThor did not target the hider. The hider unfortunately targeted mafia.

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 11:31

Who is John Madrox?

I assume it's this guy:
http://www.comicvine.com/john-maddox/29-62610/

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 11:32

Who is John Madrox?

A dupe of Jamie's that, IIRC, became a priest.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:34

I assume it's this guy:
http://www.comicvine.com/john-maddox/29-62610/

Could be a hider role. He runs and hides from Jamie Prime.

normalview

03/10/2011, 11:35

did nothing happen to you last night... I targeted you...

Nothing that I know of.

Was something supposed to happen?

Magnito

03/10/2011, 11:37

I failed last night, which is unfortunate.

normalview

03/10/2011, 11:38

No, I'm saying Zombie Thor is mafia. The hider hid with mafia, therefore was killed. That's usually how the role works. A hider hides with town they are safe for the night. They hide with mafia they are killed. ZThor did not target the hider. The hider unfortunately targeted mafia.

This is a really good point... so does that mean we should vote for VDB then?

get_1

03/10/2011, 11:40

So....

X-Factor = town, Ex-Factor = neutral?

Also, looks like we have Zombie Thor running around and eating people.

Other than that, I gots nothing.

Zombie Thor? Where?

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 11:41

Zombie Thor? Where?

You'll see when you catch up.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:42

normalview

03/10/2011, 11:44

Who was it who claimed yesterday? I was on that train ... can't remember ... it was get_1 and Jacin? So Jacin claimed, and as Multiple Man, right? Hmmm, fake claim, or do we believe? Charles has some questions that I don't think were answered. Additionally, could there be a possibility that regular Thor AND ZThor could be here, because, you know, Stan likes to "f" around that way?

I'm still up in the air on Pax.

Jacin claimed as a specific Multiple Man, if I remember correctly, and given the appearance/death of another specific Multiple Man, I am inclinded to blieve him.

Did VDB actually claim Thor yesterday, or just hint? I'll have to go double check, but I know he was hinting at the very least... which might have been enough for Morph to want to hide with him if that is what went down.

JacinB

03/10/2011, 11:46

No, I'm saying Zombie Thor is mafia. The hider hid with mafia, therefore was killed. That's usually how the role works. A hider hides with town they are safe for the night. They hide with mafia they are killed. ZThor did not target the hider. The hider unfortunately targeted mafia.
Okay, that actually makes a lot of sense.

(And I still need to shake some rust off, it seems.)

Quebbster

03/10/2011, 11:47

Jacin claimed as a specific Multiple Man, if I remember correctly, and given the appearance/death of another specific Multiple Man, I am inclinded to blieve him.
I believe he claimed to be the bearded dupe... whatever that means.
Did VDB actually claim Thor yesterday, or just hint? I'll have to go double check, but I know he was hinting at the very least... which might have been enough for Morph to want to hide with him if that is what went down.
He didn't exactly hold up a neon sign, but it was pretty blatant.

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 11:48

Who was it who claimed yesterday? I was on that train ... can't remember ... it was get_1 and Jacin? So Jacin claimed, and as Multiple Man, right? Hmmm, fake claim, or do we believe? Charles has some questions that I don't think were answered. Additionally, could there be a possibility that regular Thor AND ZThor could be here, because, you know, Stan likes to "f" around that way?

I'm still up in the air on Pax.

Assuming Stan sticks to the story even a smidgen, Thor should absolutely be in the game. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Mafia reaching for anything frame someone. That kind of blubbering should not be allowed.

I've been copped apparently, I plan on having fun with this day phase, and if I make it out, yay!

get_1

03/10/2011, 11:48

Venom, you pretty much claimed Thor yesterday. Who did you target last night?

Good question.

It's a starting point, anyhow.

Vote: Lynch VDB.

Yeah, but...it almost seems a little too obvious.

I'm about this far. Going to go poop now. Probably back in 30.

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 11:54

Okay, so to understand things, Jamie is original Multiple Man? And Morph died as a specific multiple? In which case I too would lean more to believing Jacin. Still wondering what Charlesx questions were about. Were they ever answered? I can't remember all of that exchange.

Immortal_Raven

03/10/2011, 11:54

Yeah, but...it almost seems a little too obvious.

I'm about this far. Going to go poop now. Probably back in 30.

Thanks for the update. I advise eating more prunes, it will go faster.

Back to the matter at hand. I don't know that I believe Pax, but knowing Stan, Simon Cowell would be in this game. deadshot is claiming to have copped him in so many words, so my vote stays until a better target is found.

normalview

03/10/2011, 12:00

Okay, so to understand things, Jamie is original Multiple Man? And Morph died as a specific multiple?

Jamie Madrox is Multiple Man, yes.

Unless something has changed recently, most of the time his duplicates are also Jamie Madrox (same memories, personality, the whole deal...) but sometimes his duplicates, especially if they've been separate from him for a while, develope their own distinct personalities. They're still Jamie, more or less, but a different kind of Jamie.

Last I kept track, there were at least two such "distinct" duplicates over the years.

Rokk_Krinn

03/10/2011, 12:04

Why are we so sure it's Zombie Thor, btw? I mean, yes, he used a hammer but the place struck me as more...hellish.

Iceman425

03/10/2011, 12:06

Wow. Didn't even know this had opened, considering I'm not around these parts too much anymore.

1: I am inclined to believe VDB. When has anyone seen Stan do that intricate of a write-up, clearly painting a character in that negative a light? I've only played in 3 Stan games, but I can tell you it has taken a helluva lot more sleuthing work to figure things out in those games.

2: I really would take Shatterstar as a PGO here. That being said, I think he's a limited PGO. It says he had been involved in an earlier scuffle or somesuch and that he just wanted this to make the fat king stop talking. Maybe he PGO's someone if more than ONE person targets him?

3: Charles is pinging my scum meter.

4: I would really like to have a name from JacinB. A name won't hurt, but that's what I really would want from him considering we just had a named dupe bite it.

5: I take 35 minute poops. Take that Get_1.

6: I'm gonna follow the lead of the "copping" for now. Vote : Pax. Pax, you wanna share what "being a smarmy dick" entails?

Iceman425

03/10/2011, 12:10

Jamie Madrox is Multiple Man, yes.

Unless something has changed recently, most of the time his duplicates are also Jamie Madrox (same memories, personality, the whole deal...) but sometimes his duplicates, especially if they've been separate from him for a while, develope their own distinct personalities. They're still Jamie, more or less, but a different kind of Jamie.

Last I kept track, there were at least two such "distinct" duplicates over the years.

That's where John Madrox came from. Jamie was falling apart, losing control of himself and a lot of his dupes were starting to have much stronger personality traits.

So, he set out to go find them all...it was a painful process where he had to track them down and then absorb them, leaving the life and people they left behind no answers as they just vanished. Then he got to "John". John had a family and was a pastor. Jamie eventually let him be. Never to actually be whole again, as was his quest.

So. With most of them back now, I'd want to take a harder look at JacinB until further information is had.

HavokAndChaos

03/10/2011, 12:11

Assuming Stan sticks to the story even a smidgen, Thor should absolutely be in the game. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Mafia reaching for anything frame someone. That kind of blubbering should not be allowed.

But you have to think that not only members of that X-Factor are here. Add that to there probably being multiple Jaimes and I could easily see Thor being left out.

Also, does no else find it interesting both dead people were among those of us that hadn't posted on the first day?

kontrol

03/10/2011, 12:12

Well, sheesh - that's all you had to say!!

:cool:

Change vote: PaxZRake.

"I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart!!!!"
No he didn't have to say it actually.

We should have just followed along to pressure Pax, see what comes out from him, then if we doubt go back and ask deadshot. Your insistence on getting info from the gatherer first reeks of misdirection

Truffle Shuffle

03/10/2011, 12:16

Why are we so sure it's Zombie Thor, btw? I mean, yes, he used a hammer but the place struck me as more...hellish.

I think because he ate the guy.

deadshot042

03/10/2011, 12:21

Also, does no else find it interesting both dead people were among those of us that hadn't posted on the first day?

And the revealed scummer is also one... At least our list of early suspects is narrowing.

HavokAndChaos
Iceman425
michiganj24
tyroman

charlesx

03/10/2011, 12:28

Why are we so sure it's Zombie Thor, btw? I mean, yes, he used a hammer but the place struck me as more...hellish.

1) Like Truff said, in the write-up, Thor ate the Madrox

2) Stan is a fan of zombies

3) There is an alternate cover to Thor #1, painted by Arthur Suydam, depicting Thor as a zombie (which is what came to mind when I read the write-up)

4) Mafia = "Hel", as in the Norse Underworld - and Zombie Thor fits nicely in that theme...

Which is why I am not letting VDB off the hook yet.

As far as the Pax lynch:

1) I never, ever jump blindly on a lynch train unless the player starting it has been pretty much cleared as town

2) Rule of thumb - always trust the info until and unless it is proven wrong

3) Simon Cowell has a new TV show called "The X Factor", which I think would put him in the King Henry VIII "Ex-Factor" camp so if Pax is scummy then he must be a scummy neutral.

There it is and there you have it, folks.

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 12:35

6: I'm gonna follow the lead of the "copping" for now. Vote : Pax. Pax, you wanna share what "being a smarmy dick" entails?

Heh, it's a post restriction you illitrate bojangles.

DarqFeonix

03/10/2011, 12:39

Heh, I finally got Henry VIII and "Ex-Factor". Mini-Mafia including Larry King?

Lynch: PaxZRake

charlesx

03/10/2011, 12:40

Heh, it's a post restriction you illitrate bojangles.

Pax, are you Thor?

:cheeky:

Immortal_Raven

03/10/2011, 12:41

remove vote

Not wanting to rush this. Also, the post restriction, real or not, is amusing to read.

Cornucopia

03/10/2011, 12:42

1) Like Truff said, in the write-up, Thor ate the Madrox

2) Stan is a fan of zombies

3) There is an alternate cover to Thor #1, painted by Arthur Suydam, depicting Thor as a zombie (which is what came to mind when I read the write-up)

4) Mafia = "Hel", as in the Norse Underworld - and Zombie Thor fits nicely in that theme...

Which is why I am not letting VDB off the hook yet.

As far as the Pax lynch:

1) I never, ever jump blindly on a lynch train unless the player starting it has been pretty much cleared as town

2) Rule of thumb - always trust the info until and unless it is proven wrong

3) Simon Cowell has a new TV show called "The X Factor", which I think would put him in the King Henry VIII "Ex-Factor" camp so if Pax is scummy then he must be a scummy neutral.

There it is and there you have it, folks.

Okay, I'm all caught up.

To your points above, Charles. Stan being a fan of zombies does make me think that zombies could be in this game. I'm just glad the target died rather than get recruited into a zombie cult. That being said, Thor got stronger after eating John Madrox. So it could be a cult that can only recruit after a few kills have been made. Maybe Thor needs to get his strength up before he can recruit. Just a thought.

Ex-Factor seems plausible to me for Pax's alignment. I'm not going to vote right now, plenty of time for discussion. I'll add it later, closer to the end of the day.

kontrol

03/10/2011, 12:42

vote: PaxZRake

PaxZRake

03/10/2011, 12:45

I think X-Factor is a far more plausible alignment for me to have. Think about the context.

You Donkey! /GordonRamsey

JacinB

03/10/2011, 12:49

But you have to think that not only members of that X-Factor are here. Add that to there probably being multiple Jaimes and I could easily see Thor being left out.
Nah.

Thor will be here. He was pretty integral to the story.

Also, it's spelled 'Jamie,' thank you.
That's where John Madrox came from. Jamie was falling apart, losing control of himself and a lot of his dupes were starting to have much stronger personality traits.

So, he set out to go find them all...it was a painful process where he had to track them down and then absorb them, leaving the life and people they left behind no answers as they just vanished. Then he got to "John". John had a family and was a pastor. Jamie eventually let him be. Never to actually be whole again, as was his quest.

So. With most of them back now, I'd want to take a harder look at JacinB until further information is had.
As I said yesterday, I was told in my role PM that I'm the one with the beard.

The only time I can remember seeing Jamie with a beard is when Layla from the future came back, which would've been before the Hel storyline and (I think) after the storyline with John took place.

I said yesterday that it was the distinction in my role that made me pretty sure I wasn't the only one of me here. Morph's death last night confirmed that there are multiple versions of Jamie present.

Not sure what else you'd like for me to tell you beyond that or how much more clear I could be about it.

charlesx

03/10/2011, 12:49

I think X-Factor is a far more plausible alignment for me to have. Think about the context.

You Donkey! /GordonRamsey

Then why would you cop as mafia? Are you a miller?

The votes are piling on. This is a good time to spill dem beans, bwah.

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 12:49

I am willing to go with the cop til he is proven wrong... Was he MD its possible and i do buy the claim though... but i ma not sure what Hel means for sure...

JacinB

03/10/2011, 12:53

Then why would you cop as mafia? Are you a miller?
Well, if there were a Town member who'd be hated enough to show up as Mafia, Simon Cowell might well be him ...

VenomDaBomb

03/10/2011, 12:55

Well, if there were a Town member who'd be hated enough to show up as Mafia, Simon Cowell might well be him ...

Dang good point...

Remove vote

charlesx

03/10/2011, 12:56

Well, if there were a Town member who'd be hated enough to show up as Mafia, Simon Cowell might well be him ...

Agreed. But I'd like to hear what Pax has to say. So far he is the best candidate for a lynch, but I have no issue with going back and voting for VDB like I did earlier in the day.

get_1

03/10/2011, 13:02

get_1

03/10/2011, 13:03