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Wait wait...Mandarin STARTS OFF with Outwit? For how many clicks? And then gains RCE? He may have a huge cost, but that right there makes up for the Incap down the dial :p
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metzgarob
03/11/2003, 15:54
AWESOME that is sooo cool thanks for posting bro (???):(
Ghost_Rider
03/11/2003, 15:54
He's worth the points. ;)
ghost
lol i saw it on ebay :) he looks to be a killer figure....he's got outwit for a few clicks and one of 3 damage, then a few more at 2 damage and then he gains RCE... he has MC for the first two clicks as well, plus incap all down the dial. He has barrier for a few clicks, then it goes to Shield Deflction I believe, then a few clicks of willpower :) plus he has decent attack values...it started at 10 i know, and his defense was high too if i remember, 17 i think
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Was just thinking....so his outwit will only extend out 10 spots right? or is it 12?
That would limit his 12 range a bit...that way, he could hit far out at 12, but couldn't really effectively take out the big guns with his outwit from that distance...still, mandarin looks #### awesome! :D
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Ghost_Rider
03/11/2003, 16:40
I have him. His attack starts at 11. His stats are posted in the warrior section. You can't use Outwit with his 12 range, but you can use Mind Control with it, which makes him very deadly.
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Superfly
03/11/2003, 16:42
I was having a bit of dbate over on the board at WizKids about Mandarin vs. Darkseid. Before you dismiss this as impssible, look at the stats. Mandarin has Outwit just like Darkseid, but a longer range, the ability to fly, and a higher attack value. If he stays outside of Darkseid's range, outwits Impervious, and scores even one good hit to gt the ball rolling, Darkseid will fall easily. If playng smart against Darkseid, he could be taken out in only six or seven rounds of play. It's unlikely that Darkseid would ever be portrayed to lose a fight to the Mandarin in comics, but on the HeroClix playing field, Darseid would be hard pressed to beat Mandarin. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these guys.;)
Mr. Pilkington
03/11/2003, 16:58
A Darkseid vs. Mandarin fight might not be so much in Madarin's favor. Neither has Running Shot and both have Outwit. If Mandarin is in range to Outwit Darkseid then Darkseid can Outwit him right back. If Mandarin Outwits Impervious then Darkseid can Outwit Mandarin's Outwit and his Impervious comes back for Mandarin's next shot. If Mandarin Outwit's Darkseid's Outwit then Impervious is still there. Since neither can move and attack then the other can move to either close or get out of range. If Darseid gets a hit in Mandarin will be hurting, while Darkseid has damage reduction powers. If you pitted these two against each other I would expect either a bloody ranged battle where both shoot each other or else a standoff where neither stay in range of the other long enough to get shot.
Thunderbolts
03/11/2003, 17:27
If Moondragon and Super-Skrull are swiss army knives, Mandarin is a very big multi-barrelled howitzer. :) The sheer number of options he brings to the battlefield is stupendous.
SLAYER X
03/11/2003, 18:00
I have darkseid and know how great he is in combat but manderin can beat him fairly easy if manderin is kept at 10 spuares away. Darseids range is 8 sure he can outwit manderin but if you move manny 10 away then outwit his outwit he can't shoot back only run. Darkseid is at a huge disadvantage because of that 12 range if he moves to close he's dead so he has to play keep away the whole game.
Can anyone tell me why his Vet has a 12 Range? Doesnt he just have a nasty set of magic rings? How can this possibly give him greater range than Magneto, Superman and Thanos, all of which can do things on a planetary range. Not very accurate to his comic book self, Id say.
Teletran
03/11/2003, 22:38
ohhh... let's see...
1. Doc Samson hits for 4 damage and potentially 5 damage
2. Beast does 3 damage and potentially 4 damage
3. Superman rookie does 2 damage
4. Batman Rookie does 3 damage
5. Thor does 4 damage
6. Ironman and Crimson Dynamo can deal as much as Firelord (5)
7. Bullseye's a great fig while Hawkeye is crummy.
so does that need explaining or what?
Mandy does 12 range... so does Phoenix.... why?!? Because the clix says so...
Well, we'll just have to live with it.
yeah i don't really get the 12 range, but i like mandarin so like any good fanboy i'm letting this slide a lil....though i wish they threw him one or more token powers besides a dial full of incap lol...and i'm surprised at the outwit frankly, but i can see why...great clix, even if i don't think it's quite true to the character
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SLAYER X
03/12/2003, 13:04
I have no problem with the range because of how powerful his rings are, he is actually underrated in the comics, not overrated in the game. As for Superman, thanos and magneto I think Superman and magneto got the shaft in terms of everything they are capable of, thanos of the other hand I feel is accurate because he does do alot of damage and hits every single time unless he rolls snake eyes.
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