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tidge
03/19/2011, 09:55
I'm a wee bit annoyed at the keyword distribution, especially on older figures.

Here is a classic lineup (IIRC, this would be after the return from Asgard when Karma rejoined the team, and explains the winged steed) for use at 500 points:

82 GSX Cannonball
73 FF U Warlock
66 FF Exp Moonstar
65 WoS Wolfsbane
59 FF Vet Karma
51 AW Vet Magma
38 GSX Cypher
38 SN Rookie Sunspot
28 CM Rookie Magick

= 500 points

It's a shame about the keywords, as the bonuses for this 9-figure lineup would be worthwhile to assist the (generally) weak dials.

For this lineup I opted for what I considered the best versions of all the first 8 characters, and then added whatever Magick fit.

Cannonball: The GSX version is certainly more cost-effective than any of the Armor Wars REVLE, and it is arguably better than all of them too.

Mirage/Moonstar: We're saddled with the horse version (see what I did there?) unless you opt for a pure substitute dial (Exp Psylocke from Armor Wars?) I've always found the Exp to offer the best balance between cost and offense/utility.

Wolfsbane: I opted for "new hotness". The original E/V/LE versions from Hypertime have all served me well in the past and I would not hesitate to use them again if I had to make point compromises. The only danger is that the modern game has few figures that only do 1-damage, so the IC versions will be easy pickings for any modern figure.

Karma: each of the REV from Fantastic Forces is a good dial. I opted for the vet because of the 11 AV, 10 range :bolt::bolt:. Playing this force already has a lot of compromises, feel free to use the best stats available.

Magma: See comment on Karma above. I recommend reviewing dials to see if you think you can make the R/E work better for your team, but the 8-range Barrier is what this hottie is all about in the early dial. So few players use barrier, so I've found it to have a big surprise factor.

Sunspot: I love the dial/cost on the rookie. The other version are also decent dials, but the 38-points for the rookie is what seals the deal for me every time. Allow him to carry the 3D Computer or Pop Machine and he will be a wrecker.

I think the CM REVLE Magick dials offer some utility, but if you want a more threatening piece, opt to sub in the LE Soulsword Wielder from Supernova.

sol
03/19/2011, 10:14
LOL@ Wolfsbane from Hypertime, but this is a cool thread. I guess I never noticed the New Mutants keyword situation was so 'off'.

tidge
03/19/2011, 10:29
LOL@ Wolfsbane from Hypertime, but this is a cool thread. I guess I never noticed the New Mutants keyword situation was so 'off'.

The last time I played an actual "New Mutants" team was probably in the Armor Wars era, before keywords! After keywords, I guess I mentally filed them under "Mutant", and by the time that went away I wasn't seeing new team members so it never occurred to me to review their keywords (unlike my attention to "Freedom Force").

I grok the concept of trying to shoehorn older REV into specific comics, but the "New Mutants" keyword options are downright sad... and in the case of some more modern comics (Karma rejoining Xavier's Academy) I'm not even sure that the older shoehorning even makes sense.

saturnflight
03/19/2011, 10:36
To be fair, those characters were hardly at their 'most effective' during their time in the New Mutants. Perhaps keywords are being used to show that?
38 GX012 Cypher
82 GX022 Cannonball
38 SV025 Sunspot
40 AW032 Magma
90 FF009 Moonstar
43 FF037 Karma
73 FF093 Warlock
36 CM038 Magick
28 IC028 Wolfsbane

A 468 point roster, using all New Mutants keyword.

tidge
03/19/2011, 10:49
To be fair, those characters were hardly at their 'most effective' during their time in the New Mutants. Perhaps keywords are being used to show that?


I'm not convinced that keyword assignments were made with the conscious thought "The dial sucks, so I'll give the keyword to the rookie" when there really isn't even much improvement in stats between older REVersions. I see it pretty much as "Did I see the character in any other book after they were introduced?" If so, the rookie gets the "early appearances" keywords and the vets get later ones.

It's the only way I can explain why only the rookie Pyro got the "Freedom Force" keyword. Obviously the new Pyro dial is much more powerful than any of the IC figures yet it gets the FF keyword.