The Trophy Room: #103 DEADPOOL

[ol_Dut]

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#103 DEADPOOL

A new set means new LE’s and today we’re taking a look at GSX’s LE Deadpool.

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[ol_Dut]

For the first several years of the game, there was not a Deadpool to be found. And it was bad. Very, very bad. Then, Mutant Mayhem came along and suddenly there were three Deadpools to choose from. Excitement and thrills were everywhere! Money and virgins fell from the heavens and all of our dreams came true. Well, not really. Sure we finally had a Deadpool, but he was about as exciting as a nun’s list of things to do on a Friday night once you scratch off things like bingo and writing letters to shut-ins. They all had Stealth, Phasing, Blades, Regen, and one, two, or three clicks of Perpelx depending on whether you were playing R,E or V. Oh, the joy. Oh, the rapture. Hold me back. MM also gave us a Wade Wilson LE, which was the virtually identical to the Experienced Deadpool, except that he didn’t have any Phasing. Board up the windows and nail the door shut. Nothing to see here. Don’t get me wrong, these Deadpools were acceptable interpretations of the character, if a bit minimalist. With a moderate amount of skill and care, any one of these figures could be decent contributors to any X-team, but they lacked a certain zest. The character’s innate and irrepressible insanity just wasn’t there. How could a character so over the top translate into something so boring? Day-old doughnuts look positively dangerous and enticing by comparison.

Well, be bored no more. After an insanely long wait, finally, in the last two Marvel sets we have two new Deadpools (as well as a Cable/Deadpool duo, but we’re not talking about them). For the sake of a fair comparison, we’ll be looking at the new Deadpool LE as he relates to SR Deadpool from Web of Spider-Man. Which ‘Pool puts more mania in your mahem, more crazy in your carnage, more Dead in your destruction and more P in your ‘Pool? That’s what we’re going to find out.

Here’s the dial for the new LE Deadpool.

#103 V Deadpool
Team: X-men
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 140
Keywords: Deadpool Corps, Frightful Four, X-Force, Weapon X
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:star:Also, I'm Un-Inebriatable Deadpool ignores Poison and can't be the target of Mind Control or Penetrating/Psychic Blast.
Attack - New Writer: At the beginning of the game, choose one. Deadpool can use Ranged Combat Expert and Combat Reflexes or Deadpool can use Close Combat Expert and Energy Shield/Deflection. He can use those powers as long as he can use this special power.

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>Sniff< >sniff< Kind of…nutty. >sniff< And...futuristic. You must be Cable!

And here’s what SR Deadpool has under the hood.

#057 V DEADPOOL
Team: Spider-Man
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 158
Keywords: Agency X, Deadpool Corps, Frightful Four, Great Lakes Avengers, Martial Artist, Six Pack, Weapon X, X-Force
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:star:Ridiculous Regeneration Whenever Deadpool would be dealt damage from an attack, roll a d6 instead. On a result of 1, he takes that damage plus 1. On a result of a 2-3 he takes the normal amount of damage. On a result of a 4-5 he takes 1 damage. On a result of a 6, he heals 1 damage instead.

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I am ruler of all that I see!

LE(GSX #103) Deadpool’s Gains vs. SR Deadpool (WoS #057)
Starting things off, Deadpool picks up the X-Men TA so that he can swap clicks with his fellow X-buddies, and one more click of life as well. ‘Pool’s also decked out with the “Also, I’m Un-Inebriateable trait to keep him safe from Poison, Mind Control and Penetrating/Psychic Blast.

On the whole his speeds are generally better than his SR counterpart, but he really doesn’t get hustling until his last two clicks with 10 move phasing. He also ends up with two clicks each of Charge and Stealth to put him into or out of harm’s way, respectively. One curios note regarding his speed is that while most figures get slower as their dials progress, Deapool actually gets faster the deeper into his dial he clicks.

On his attack track, he’s got three more clicks of 10 attack and the “New Writer” special power that lets him decide for each game whether he’ll use Ranged Combat Expert and Combat Reflexes or Close Combat Expert and Energy Shield/Deflection on his top four clicks.

Defensively the only real improvement is that the LE has two mid-dial clicks of Regeratiopn which make getting back to the top of his dial completely plausible. The LE also opens with two clicks of Toughness, and then after a shot of Regen he gets two more of Toughness on clicks five and six.

The only enhancement to note on LE Deadpool’s Damage track is the addition of two more doses of Perplex which show up with alarming regularity on every other click. Between this and how his Toughness and Regen are laid out, LE ‘Pool’s dial is one of the easier ones to memorize. Strange that this would be the case considering how crazy and unpredictable Deadpool is in the comics.

LE (GSX #103) Deadpool’s Losses vs. SR Deadpool (WoS #057)
The first thing hacked off and chucked out the window is the SR’s Ridiculous Regeneration Trait; a beautiful thing that gives him a 50% chance of either taking just 1 damage or healing 1 damage for the entire length of his dial every time he would take damage. There is, however, a 1 in 6 chance that he’d actually take an additional click, and a two in six chance that nothing strange would happen at all. It’s as crazy as a bag of squirrels in your pants and thoroughly befitting of the character and I’m sad to see it go.

The LE also ditches Spider-Man TA and one target, forcing him to commit in more ways than one. If one cares about such things, a great many keywords have vanished like an old oak table; among them are Agency X, Great Lakes Avengers, Martial Artist, and Six Pack. Coupled with the loss of the Spidey TA, this makes the LE Deadpool a bit less versatile.

Some Powers disappear altogether on the LE’s dial; Flurry which can be either hit or miss (ba-dum-bum) and the perennial favorite, Probability Control are nowhere to be found on the LE’s dial. Gone too are Energy Explosion – one of my least favorite powers, and Super Senses, one of my all-time faves. Numerically, LE Deadpool takes a hit as well. The SR’s 12 attack evaporates, as do three clicks of three (3) damage.

But wait there’s more. LE Deadpool also loses color. Gone are the more traditional and familiar black and red fighting togs. Instead, he’s got the much more niche black and white costume that always makes me think he just escaped from an episode of “I Love Lucy”.

His pose suffers a bit as well. SR Deadpool is a proud Deadpool; a grand conqueror Deadpool, and a much more the “Awesomely suave and devastatingly handsome, with the Olympic gold medal in mercenary-ing” Deadpool. LE Deadpool is a hunchy-squatty Deadpool. A Deadpool that recognizes other clix in the same way that dogs recognize other dogs. By smelling their butts. And it’s a heck of a thing to go from grand conqueror to butt-sniffer.

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If ol_Dut had to Choose
LE Deadpool (GSX #103) vs. SR Dadpool (WoS #057)?
Starting with the traits, I’m much more a fan of “Ridiculous Regeneration” than of “Un-Inebriatable”. Not that many figures have Poison, i’m never very afraid of Mind Control and ignoring Penetrating/Psychic Blast isn’t as cool as it sounds when all LE ‘Pool’s got is Toughness and Regen anyway. Now the chance to take less damage or heal every time I’m supposed to take a click? That is a burrito of much greater girth and spiciness. Besides, its randomness very much embodies the essence of the character. Give me “Ridiculous” any day. Advantage: SR Deadpool.

Looking at the dials, I’m struck by the LE’s sneakiness and the SR’s “moviness”. I’d feel like a tool for choosing the LE’s CCE & ES/D combo considering it coincides with four clicks of Stealth. I’d much rather have the RCE & CR to go along with that Stealth so I don’t really feel like I have a choice with this “New Writer” special power, but more simply the illusion of a choice. The SR’s opening salvo of Running Shot, 12 attack and 3 damage with Perplex is instantly appealing. As is the notion that 3 damage with RCE is just a push away.

By the time the LE gets any mobility with Charge, he’s likely going to see that 4 move Charge translate down to 2 move Charge because, thanks to that top-of-dial Stealth, he’s probably parked in hindering terrain, just where he should be. Anyway, he’s only doing a maximum of 3 damage if he happens to be on one of his Perplex clicks. And when he gets to his final Regen clicks, he’s going to have to make the call between using that power or Blades. Obviously, that decision is highly situational.

Now SR Deadpool takes a very different approach with excellent mobility for most of his dial thanks to Running Shot and Phasing. By the time he works his way down to Regen, a miracle occurs: SR Deadpool gains PC for both of those clicks. That’s right. He’s got Regen in his PC. He’s got PC in his Regen. Two great tastes that taste great together, and Deadpool can make selfish use of them each and every time. Sure the LE has that mid-dial Regen, but there’s no more guarantee that he’ll get to use them any more than there is that the SR will ever heal with “Ridiculous”, but at least I know the SR will get to use it. The LE only has the abilty to reduce damage on four clicks, whereas the SR has the chance to avoid it outright on two clicks, or to reduce it, heal (or potentially take more) on every click. Clix is a dice game first and foremost, so baby, let me at those dice! Advantage: SR Deadpool.

Team abilities and targets are the last things to consider. The X-Men TA is fun. It lets Deadpool succeed where Regen may fail. He works great, but only with other X-Men. SR Deadpool, however, is a wild card. He can have more party pals in more combinations that Charlie Sheen could ever imagine in his most drug-filled deleriums. He can be a full-on Mystical, Defending, Fantastic Four, Batman, Arachnos, PD-man from Mars. Plus, he can shoot his big gun at not one, but two goddesses at once. What he’s got in his viens would KO most other clix. But not him. Advantage: SR Deadpool.

Don’t get me wrong. LE Deadpool is a fine figure, and one that I’ll be playing quite a bit when I get the chance. But as good as he is, and as much potential as he has, when I need a more definitive uber-Deadpool, it’s the proud conqueror SR Deadpool for me.

Next week I’ll review a completely different figure! Honest! Thanks for reading!

[Pepsirox08]

awesome, keep this pic on top of the page!!!

[DarthPezley]

One point I'd like to say is that yes, 80-90% of the time people will choose the RCE/CR combo, there are certainly situations where the CCE/ESD combo is more beneficial. Playing against a team with an Ultimates member or someone with the Superman TA, or someone like Ahab or HoT Cap? You bet your britches I'm picking the CCE/ESD. Sure, it caps your ranged damage to 3, but I'd take that with a 19 ranged Defense over a 5 damage with a 17. Not to mention if they want to hit Deadpool with more reliability, they need to base him.. which is not going to be fun for them, let alone the whole family.

[DemonRS]

The fact that the LE Deadpool has stealth and 20 defense in close combat makes him a winner for me.

But his damage is a bit lacking since he doesn't have B/C/F unless you take ES/D..
I imagine the combo of ES/D and RCE or B/C/F and CR would have been too over powered.. But his new writer almost makes you choose.. Damage or Defense. Overall the CR + RCE makes the most sense (and makes very little of a choice to me). He also gets "consistent" damage so long as he's not based.

Which I like a lot. But any team would do well to attempt to base him just so he's only hitting for 3 vs 5 (with RCE).

I agree with his trait being kinda meh..

It's really a toss up.. But to me the 19 potential defense goes a long way..

I suppose 17 defense in close combat and 19 defense from any of your victims allies attacking you is acceptable.

Also if you play with feats.. Auto Regen really benefits the new deadpool making him a pushing monster (as he's very likely to get back to his top click).. So I give the new LE the advantage.. But not by much.


One point I'd like to say is that yes, 80-90% of the time people will choose the RCE/CR combo, there are certainly situations where the CCE/ESD combo is more beneficial. Playing against a team with an Ultimates member or someone with the Superman TA, or someone like Ahab or HoT Cap? You bet your britches I'm picking the CCE/ESD. Sure, it caps your ranged damage to 3, but I'd take that with a 19 ranged Defense over a 5 damage with a 17. Not to mention if they want to hit Deadpool with more reliability, they need to base him.. which is not going to be fun for them, let alone the whole family.

Every time i've played this deadpool i've chosen CR and RCE.. but the regen on his dial and such really makes ES/D B/C/F tempting to try as he's got a pretty large buffer for defense thanks to the positioning of regen.

[MysticMist]

also the LE's bio is alot more hilarious imo to the SR one

[STUimus Prime]

Awesome review! Bea Arthur would be proud.

[saturnflight]

Nice evaluation. I think it's interesting how a lot of the insanity normally associated with Deadpool was left off the LE, and is also notably absent in X-Force.

I like the 'New Writer' ability for those maps where Stealth options are few, especially as the rest of the team really relies on their stealth.

[Owlman]

So does the LE get any props for being 18 points cheaper? That's room for plenty of feats or support.

[anonym0use]

I'd box up the LE with Auto Regen and Nano Armor every time. 158 points well spent.

Good to have you back Justin.

[dkrmguy]

I only have the SR but if I had the LE I still think the SR would be my go to Deadpool. Nice Article Rep to you.

[songwriterz]

Next week I’ll review a completely different figure! Honest! Thanks for reading!

BEST...REVIEW...EVAR!!!

And I agree with the RCE/CR choice. Sit in stealth and dare them to come get you. When they do - laugh at their feeble attempts.

And I also agree with SR over LE, but I have played the LE and he is still more fun than box full of rabies.

[Troma99]

Actually when MM ccame out we got FOUR I personally ran Wade Wilson over the REV.

[anonym0use]

Actually when MM ccame out we got FOUR I personally ran Wade Wilson over the REV.

No. Actually, we got 3 Deadpools and 1 Wade Wilson, which of course 'Dut points out in the article. :ermm:

I hereby accuse you of skimming! :p

[Darkined]

I like the PC and more chaotic fun of the SR. I feel that the LE is tone down in alot of areas. 12 starting is nice way to begin with some perplex. I also like that he has 50% chance to shrug off damage and he gets super senses on top of that. I guess it is preference but for me the SR adds some chaos with some utility and packs a nice wallop up front.

[Pentarch]

Nice evaluation. I think it's interesting how a lot of the insanity normally associated with Deadpool was left off the LE, and is also notably absent in X-Force.

I like the 'New Writer' ability for those maps where Stealth options are few, especially as the rest of the team really relies on their stealth.

Which is pleasant to see they're trying to phase back Deadpool's personality to what he once was, rather than being his "LOL GUNS AND 4th WALL BREAKING ALWAYS" he had seemed to devolve into. Just the tail end of the 00's Wolverine/Ghost Rider in every freaking book, and 40 of their own.

Personally, I like the consistency of the LE piece a bit more than the luck piece the SR is, as I've had the sad problem of being critted into, rolling a one for Ridiculous Regen, and having no way of rerolling it.

[Adam Fennimore]

At the last tournament, i came in first and got to pick a prize. my pick came down to deadpool (gsx) and archangel. It's a shame because i obviously picked archangel. deadpool in gsx was a little disapointing and hope next review around the new deadpool will better than this.:cry:

[okagenologan]

Don't forget that they both have access to the X-Force ATA which means that neither of them have to be reducing movement for hindering terrain on their running shots or charge.

[ultronMFer]

One point I'd like to say is that yes, 80-90% of the time people will choose the RCE/CR combo, there are certainly situations where the CCE/ESD combo is more beneficial. Playing against a team with an Ultimates member or someone with the Superman TA, or someone like Ahab or HoT Cap? You bet your britches I'm picking the CCE/ESD. Sure, it caps your ranged damage to 3, but I'd take that with a 19 ranged Defense over a 5 damage with a 17. Not to mention if they want to hit Deadpool with more reliability, they need to base him.. which is not going to be fun for them, let alone the whole family.

I concur. I can see many instances where this would be beneficial; your opponent chooses a map with nearly no hindering terrain to hide in i.e. The Crater, Hawkworld, etc., you or your opponent choose Krakoa and you'd rather the island try to hit a ranged 19, you're up against HoT Cap, Doc Strange, Ahab, Supes, etc. Or you just want some extra up close damage for your opponent's Stealthed pieces.

Bear in mind, too, that the X-Force ATA lets him move out of hindering with no movement penalty, so getting in close with that 3 damage CCE becomes much easier.

But in the end, both are great pieces, if a little over-powered for the character. Props for a very well put together review.

*thumbs up*

[wintremute]

Great review ol_Dut. Thanks for reloading that gun, and keep 'em coming. (that's what she said)

[Bat-Phreak]

You have created many good reviews, but this is the best I can remember!!!

And it’s a heck of a thing to go from grand conqueror to butt-sniffer.

That’s right. He’s got Regen in his PC. He’s got PC in his Regen. Two great tastes that taste great together

Sounds like sig file material to me!! ;)

[WarHULK]

Thanks for the review! I love both dials! Between the two AND the Deadpool/Cable it will always be a hard decision on who I will play on my X-Force teams!

[reklawyad]

Don't forget you can always brim the x-force ata to let him ignore the hindering for movement on those stealth clicks. I played this guy and the cable or the other day and enjoyed both of them entirely. I think they are dangerous to both start with rce 3 base and stealth!!!! Now we just need some lower point xforce pieces!!

[Adraeko]

I was just thinking that the two of them put together clock in at 300 points for a Deadpool Corps Theme Team. I don't know how good it would be, but it might be fun.

[Holy Knight]

more Dead in your destruction and more P in your ‘Pool? That’s what we’re going to find out.

Haha! That was pretty cute. :P

[traxlenak]

I will play the GSX LE infinitely more just because of the fact that I don't own the WOS SR ;)

[nextwavegeek]

I've had horrible luck with the R.Regen trait on the SR so I kinda gave up on him, now with the LE I choose the CCE/ESD, slap Ambush, Lunge and Auto Regen on him and I have yet to fail when playing in higher end games. I have pretty much fallen in love with this version, I had to get an extra just paint into his red and black togs as well so I can use him as a regulat Deadpool instead of his X-Force version. I'm not saying the SR is bad by any means, so no one take it that way, I played against him this past Saturday and he should have been dead 3 or 4 times over yet for his trait he was still on his first click. I had to resort to having the WoS Nightcrawler moving him away from the main battle every chance I got just so I could win the bout. I hate relying on cheese to win but it was my only option left due to my opponents incredible luck of die rolls.

[Troma99]

No. Actually, we got 3 Deadpools and 1 Wade Wilson, which of course 'Dut points out in the article. :ermm:

I hereby accuse you of skimming! :p

yeah...well...You're A TOWEL!

[scehaono]

wow, seeing ol_dut's name for LE reviews takes me back...glad to see your reviews again, and hope to see more!

[WhoaDirty]

I played the LE this weekend and he was a machine. I played a Weapon X team of Sabretooth, Maverick, and Deadpool with the X-Force ATA. I ended up picking CR/RCE everytime. If I had room for Auto Regen my opponents may have cried.

[Clickin'nutz!]

Great Review, and I also agree with the SR over the le but I tend to play more for fun than competition.

[SpideySteve5422]

Deadpool was basically the best mix-up of Spider-man, Wolverine, and Punisher into one. It took a bunch of cooky writing to make the character interesting. I appreciate who he is, but like most Marvel Poster-Boys, he is becoming overrated much like his Clix. I like his WoS Version because I find it accurate.

I find the new X-force LE catering to the audience that is driving the character into the ground. But, maybe that's why he is an LE opposed to more of the set - The duo character is awesome given the Civil War Run that started the Cable/Deadpool series. Not really sure why the LE has toughness - don't necessarily agree on that point - He can heal ridiculously well, but toughness - Deadpool doesn't get Damage Reduction - he takes it, and champs i by healing. One more reason he's going to be the most OP character for a long time.

Actual founding Marvel Comics characters' that have sets named after them i.e. Spider-man are being railed over by OP characters such as Deadpool. Classic Red and Blue Spidey, where's the love, you sell Marvel's Comics. Deadpool, the old cult classic is becoming the new contender, and everyone plays with him. Womp Womp. Guess all it takes is breaking the 4th wall to get people interested.

[Geof-Force]

I have to say that in terms of playability and competitiveness, LE Deadpool is much better. With the X-Force ATA, LE DP is an effective sniper for the range-hungry X-Force theme thanks to an 11 Attack and effective 5-damage (3natural+RCE). Teamed with Psylocke (and why shouldn't you if you're playing X-Force?), D'Pool can take out most average figs or seriously dent longer lived ones. He's also a better survivor thanks to the Combat reflexes/ESD+natural 17 up top with Toughness (19 to hit with a damage reducer is a pain for any standard figure), good placement of regen, a deeper dial (8 clicks compared to the 7 of the SR), and can get out of dodge when the going gets tough (2 clicks of 10 phasing).

If you're playing for fun or have a Keyword that LE 'Pool does not have, then use the SR. But if you want a solid team player, White Pool is the man to choose.

[GoatMaster]

Spideysteve - How is the WoS accurate, but the GSX is not? The WoS has a chance of either reducing all damage to 1 (like Prime, Blob, Ulik or FCBD Iron Man) or ignoring ALL damage and instead healing a click. You could nail him for 7 clicks and he'll not only ignore it but be better off after the attack resolves. How is that more accurate? As you said, Deadpool takes damage, then heals. Half of the time, WoS Deadpool simply doesn't take damage.

I like the GSX LE simply because he feels more in line with the actual character. The WoS Deadpool us too good. Deadpool shouldn't be better than Wolverine, a character who defeats him every time they fight.

[MysticMist]

if only the Cable & Deadpool figure had an ability called "Bosom Buddies" thats wold be great....especially since theres a Vs card with that name....but i love the ability called "Choose me! Im way cooler!"

[SpideySteve5422]

Spideysteve - How is the WoS accurate, but the GSX is not? The WoS has a chance of either reducing all damage to 1 (like Prime, Blob, Ulik or FCBD Iron Man) or ignoring ALL damage and instead healing a click. You could nail him for 7 clicks and he'll not only ignore it but be better off after the attack resolves. How is that more accurate? As you said, Deadpool takes damage, then heals. Half of the time, WoS Deadpool simply doesn't take damage.

I like the GSX LE simply because he feels more in line with the actual character. The WoS Deadpool us too good. Deadpool shouldn't be better than Wolverine, a character who defeats him every time they fight.

So what I wrote may have been somewhat incoherent psychobabble - however, I actually agree with you. I think the character of Deapool is OP to the extreme. He is not all that and a bag of chips. I don't think the Damage Reduction Toughness on the LE is comic accurate, which I find ironic given their use of the new special, "New Writer".

I think the WoS one is way too powerful, if anything, I think his healing ability is fine, but he should be a tie-up piece of sheer vexing torment. He's the merc with the mouth for crying out loud, not "the Juggernaut, $%^&*!" He should be on par as a tie-up as the WoS Red and Blue Spidey with his Spidey Sense.

All around, the character of Deadpool had new writers all the time cause he was not that popular - however, the cult clasic Deadpool has become the new age version of Wolverine - He's in every comic and being used to beat comic fans over the head with humor, but not consistency or continuity. Making this Click is proof of that.

The only Deadpool I approve and advocate is the Cable/Deadpool Duo - Very good and Accurate given the team-up. Cable is a Beast and Deadpool adds to the mix.

[jekyllhyde101]

There is no such thing as a BAD DEADPOOL, except when Wade just feels like it........

[scarecrow826]

Good article, although I have to disagree, the LE is head and shoulders above the SR. He's reliable and accurate. Deadpool used to not be as retardedly crazy as he is now. Anyone who considers themselves a real Deadpool fan knows that the original Deadpool, particularly when Kelly was writing's insanity only extended to his personality and dialogue, not his combat style.

I feel like I can be an elitist about this character because I've been reading him since he started... I can't say that about a lot of people. The SR character is the MODERN character, which is tired, and is a character that writers have ran into the ground without fully understanding or grasping Wade.

[Axiom125]

Awesome review! I'd probably stick the SR more if only because he's in the Red/Black outfit.

[Preacher13]

Nice review. It provides at least one man's answer to a question that had been on my mind.

Most notably, I give you big rep for talking not just about the dial, traits, etc, but also the SCULPT, POSE and COLOR! These are the things that sometimes matter most to me. :-)