Please Rate my Ultron/Bullseye 400 Pt Team for Tourney...

[CKent]

Im gonna be in my first 400 pt tourney this Saturday. I would GREATLY appreciate you rating, and helping me improve my team... Thanks so much! Here is my team:

V Bullseye
E Ultron
V Dr. Octopus
E Doombot
E Black Panther
R Invis Girl
R Scarlet Witch
V AIM Medic

My strategy is:

Taxi Bullseye with Ultron to boost Bullseye's AV and use Dr. Oc's perplex to boost up damage further...

Doombot will taxie Dr.Oc w/ free Brotherhood move...

Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Invis Girl are there for defensive purposes... Panther using his outwit... Witch making opponents reroll... all three will be clustered together to share Sue's defense value

I will position Sue behind object 'O' so she will be in stealth, Panther and Witch on either side in this formation, and the medic behind Sue:

O
(W)(S)(P)
(M)

they will be there mainly for defense and support so the other guys and come back and heal...etc.

I'm kinda new to playing so I really need suggestions/ help on strategy... Please give me your opinions on the following:

1) Should I take out my opponent's medics/ support first or go after their main figs?

2) Am I being too passive in keeping Panther back?

3) Should I move my support cluster near the middle of the map or keep them closer to my side?

4) Do I have enough offense/ defense?

5) Feel free to suggest substitutions...

Those are all the questions that I can think of now...

If you have ANY further suggestions PLEASE PLEASE feel free...

This is only my third tourney and I lost miserably (I got wiped out in half the games) all three times...

Thanks so much for your help...



-T




:p

[CKent]

sorry the support formation should be:

XXXXXX(O)XXXXXX
XXX(W)(S)(P)XXXXX
XXXXXX(M)XXXXXX

O= object
W= Scarlet Witch
S= Inv Girl
P= Panther
M= Medic

again...thanks:p

[zapdos]

I think it's ok, But I would but v annihilus. He can hit 3 clix.

[CKent]

I really need more input... I really suck at this game.... PLLLLEEEZZZZEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[revvy]

hrm ..i assume you mean to perplex bullseyes damage up ..but if you do that you can't use RCE, since it can't be combined with any other powers

Also, i would use some cheap flyer,might wanna trade your E doombot in for a rookie vulture and some other cheap fig, a flyer if you have it, might need to chance some other fig down to get a bit more points out of it though ..then have those 2 fly bullseye and ultron forward next to each other, perplex ultrons damage up, shoot with him, then share his attack with bullseye, then let bullseye shoot using his RCE

Hope that helps a bit, (if it doesn't i never made this post at all) :)

[revvy]

or if you realy want to use this team...

let ultron fly himself in, then taxi bullseye in with the E doombot, next to ultron, with the bot slightly behind and to the side of bullseye so you can copy the hydra ability , share ultron's attack value, get a +1 for the bot, shoot bullseyes turn one, next turn push all 3 of them to shoot again if nothing has based you, otherwise, just perplex untron's damage up and let him hit in melee, then move ock in to help you out in the melee chaos in the turns to follow :)

just outwit what ever is most usefull that you can reach on you oppenent even if it makes no sense, no use in not outwitting something when you can :), and remember to use scarlet witch's re-rolls

You might still not win, but if you follow my tactic, you can atleast blame me instead of yourself this time :)


Also most important, don't be afraid to try stuff out, don;t stick to tactics you devised before hand, situations tend to chace alot so your tactics might become totaly useless , just be flexible, and don't be afraid to use black panther's blades when you get the chance

[NeoFascist]

400 points this Saturday in Houston? Would you be playing at Alpha Centauri. If so, I am James, and I play there all the time. Anyway, here are my helpful hints for your team.

First off, Ultron is obviously your most important figure. You can't have him taxing anyone. I know, he is Ultron, and you probably think "I can use him for a taxi just once, since he has a great movement, and then push him with no problem." Well, although that sounds plausible, and most of his stats stay fine, his Defense drops two points to a measly sixteen. Since your opponet is bound to have some outwit of his own, that means his invuln. is going to be gone for sure, and you'll start your third turn at Ultron with 3-5 clicks down, depending on if you pushed and how much he hit you with, which should have been a lot if they are smart at all.

Thus, as terrible and annoying as it seems, you must have a taxi for Ultron. Elsewise he is going to be pushed quickly, and you'll be running him back to the medic with the quickness.

Also, what are you trying to use Black Panther for? If just for his Outwit, downgrade to the Rookie; cheaper plus a free move. Scarlet Witch is a neccesity, but I'm not sure about Invisible Girl. She is a bit pricey if all she is doing is protecting support.

Invisible Girl is really only good if you are planning on making a formation, say on a roof-top, and holding. This works against inexperienced people, but moderate to good players are going to see what you are doing and just stay away, killing who they can and winning with a marginal victory.

If you plan on being aggressive, then she isn't that important, especially since Bullseye and Ultron, your two most important figs, have high defenses to begin with.

I don't know much about Doc-Ock, but as the others have said, remember, you can't perplex RCE. You can give Ultron a 4 damage though, which would be nice.

As far as your general questions go, I'll try to answer them with my experience.

1. Who to kill first is tough. If your opponet has a medic of his own, which is highly likely, and lots of mobility with fliers, try and take out his support first. Kill figures you can kill in a single turn. This way, he can't heal them. If your opponet is crazy enough to not use a medic, take out his big figs, since they're worth the most points and you can plink them down without worrying about a 6 on support destroying your hard work. Look at what your opponets strategy is, and act accordingly. A few really tough figures like Thor will need lots of support, and once you kill them, you can take out the main nemesis with greater ease. Of course, killing whoever is availble is also good.

2. Depends on how you're using the Panther. If you just want his Outwit, keep him back. If you plan to use him for an attack, I'd wait till the game has gone on for awhile. Early on, BP isn't that tough, but if you run him into close combat later on, that 9 attack and BCF look mighty fearsome. Move him too early though, and someone will just base him and murder him.

3. If you play outdoors, try and get SW on a rooftop where she can see all your figs and as many of his as possible. The medic should be kept at they very back, somewhere where a sneak attack is impossible, so your opponet will probably leave her alone.

4. You are pretty well balanced in Offense/Defense, with Invisible Girl there, but you can only do a marginal bit of ranged combat damage, which isn't good, but isn't fatal. 6 clicks can kill most support figs. Considering you attack with Ultron and Bullseye on the same turn.

Anyway, I know that was a rambling mess, but I hope it is marginally useful.

[guanoe]

putting invisible girl in the formation will render her vulnerable.

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xxxxxxPGWxxxxx
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I mean you can shoot her by drawing a perfect diagonal that pass throught the exact corner of the two squares northwest of invisble girl.

Maybe you could put invis girl on an obj this way she cannot be targetted.

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xxxxx(PO)(GO)Wxxx
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(PO) - panther on obj
(GO) - invis girl on obj


panther on another obj to stealth in.