View Full Version : HCRealms Malware Problem
Lately whenever I come to HCRealms my computer gets hit with a bunch of major bugs and virus's, some of which have gotten past my defense programs and really screwed up my computer for a bit. Curious if this is just my computer or if other people are having similar issues with this sight.
snatreaper
04/13/2011, 12:00
There was a thread almost exactly like this one last week. The issues are well documented, and they come from the ads on the site. The easiest way to stop them is to become a donor so that you do not get the ads.
JackAssterson
04/13/2011, 12:01
http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312893
Most recent thread on it.
It's a reoccurring thing, apparently tied to google ads.
charlesdward
04/13/2011, 15:33
There was a thread almost exactly like this one last week. The issues are well documented, and they come from the ads on the site. The easiest way to stop them is to become a donor so that you do not get the ads.
Best option is, as mentioned, donate to get rid of ads. But in general, for the sake of common sense general security, use Firefox and install Adblock Plus and NoScript. Also recommended is Spyware Blaster, which stops stuff before it installs, and AdAware. All are free, and must-haves, imo. All this should be in addition to your regular firewall/antivirus software.
SurreptitiousOne
04/13/2011, 16:11
They are put here on purpose so that you donate. Don't think for a second that Typhon, can't get advertising without malware in it.
HunterSkunter
04/13/2011, 16:20
You shouldn't have to pay to not get viruses. Unfortunately the best thing I can suggest is keeping your AV/FW up to date, possible running a more secure browser, but that's a pretty sad tactic, if its intentional. If not, it needs to be rectified.
JackAssterson
04/13/2011, 16:28
They are put here on purpose so that you donate.
That's probably it.
HunterSkunter
04/13/2011, 16:28
That's probably it.
Riddle me viruses.
MaxFortune
04/13/2011, 19:46
Best option is, as mentioned, donate to get rid of ads.
"Give us your lunch money and we'll stop beating you up."
But in general, for the sake of common sense general security, use Firefox and install Adblock Plus and NoScript.
This. QFT.
Emberwild
04/14/2011, 01:04
What browser do you use. I use firefox and have never had an issue. I once use IE at work and got maleware. Really ticked of our IT guy.
MaxFortune
04/14/2011, 09:29
What browser do you use. I use firefox and have never had an issue.
That's changing. I use Firefox and experienced the browser crashing straight to desktop twice in the last two days -- both times when I was perusing HCR.
Parasite2
04/14/2011, 09:55
Just an FYI.
I am using Chrome and AdBlock, it works great. No adds and no malware.
AdBlock is available for Firefox.
wintremute
04/14/2011, 13:06
FYI, if you're not a donor and you're blocking the ads, you may be stealing from the site owners. Subversion FTW!
snatreaper
04/14/2011, 13:12
FYI, if you're not a donor and you're blocking the ads, you ARE stealing from the site owners.
Fixed it for you. People whine about why they have to pay for a free site, but they forget that the ads are what "pay" for them to look at the site. It's not really a free site (hence the ads). If it were a "free site" then there wouldn't be any ads.
They are put here on purpose so that you donate. Don't think for a second that Typhon, can't get advertising without malware in it.
The evidence supporting this rather absurd and offensive accusation being...?
adamical
04/14/2011, 13:16
Fixed it for you. People whine about why they have to pay for a free site, but they forget that the ads are what "pay" for them to look at the site. It's not really a free site (hence the ads). If it were a "free site" then there wouldn't be any ads.
Explain to me what exactly is being stolen.
red king
04/14/2011, 13:17
They are put here on purpose so that you donate. Don't think for a second that Typhon, can't get advertising without malware in it.
Not. Cool.
Wouldnt you think that more people would quit the site rather than donate?
Where is your tinfoil hat?
snatreaper
04/14/2011, 13:19
Explain to me what exactly is being stolen.
Simple, it costs money for the domain, servers, and whatnot. If you do not donate, and you're blocking ads, which only create revenue when they're displayed, then no revenue is coming from your use of the site. Meaning that the revenue lost from your blocked ads can't be used for the further maintenance and upkeep for the site.
A_Higher_Level
04/14/2011, 13:21
What browser do you use. I use firefox and have never had an issue. I once use IE at work and got maleware. Really ticked of our IT guy.
Yeah, I got one at my job and it asked to purchase it to remove my newly discovered viruses, like Outlook and IExplore.
I disabled Javascript and gave it a fake license key. Everything was fine till I got an email this morning about how my PC was flag during their security scans on the network.
:confused:
FYI, if you're not a donor and you're blocking the ads, you may be stealing from the site owners. Subversion FTW!
While I'm I have desire to withhold money from the dedicated site owners, I'm also against losing money in productivity because this particular virus would not let me run Command Prompt, Control Panel, or Internet Explorer
archaon02
04/14/2011, 13:24
If I'm obligated to view the ads, then hcrealms should be obligated to ensure those ads aren't riddled with malware.
Thrumble Funk
04/14/2011, 13:24
First:
Fixed it for you. People whine about why they have to pay for a free site, but they forget that the ads are what "pay" for them to look at the site. It's not really a free site (hence the ads). If it were a "free site" then there wouldn't be any ads.
No. Particularly when said ads can cause infections/system shutdowns.
Second:
Subversion FTW!
Methinks some've y'all may've missed that.
d_knight7
04/14/2011, 13:43
The evidence supporting this rather absurd and offensive accusation being...?
Hitler's brain sending him Morse Code messages on his fillings again.
applejack
04/14/2011, 13:47
I got the malware a few days ago, and when I realized it was the ads, I paid a $5 donation to remove them.
I didn't feel like it was exploitation. I've been coming here for years and receiving hcrealms services for free, so I decided that preventing viruses was a great incentive for me to help support the community financially in a small way.
If you're above the age of 18 and think the internet "runs for free" then you're an idiot. The website has expenses every day, and your visit adds to them. Ads and donations are what pay for those expenses.
archaon02
04/14/2011, 14:02
I don't have a problem with the ads existing. I do however have a problem with those ads giving me a virus. I further have an issue with being told I'm "stealing" if I take measures to protect myself from said virus.
kujonomore
04/14/2011, 14:18
you can donate and get the ads removed for $5 for the whole year...
coming out to an extortionary tribute of 1.4 cents per day
The Realms does not make up the ads or have control over them, they are supplied from Google and paid to the realms on a per view basis... Besides it being in the best interest of HCR to keep it virus free.
charlesdward
04/14/2011, 14:20
FYI, if you're not a donor and you're blocking the ads, you may be stealing from the site owners. Subversion FTW!
I donate, but ads have nothing to do with that. I'm always on this site, so I don't mind giving a little back. The Adblock and NoScript are still always in use, no matter what site I'm on. As mentioned, it's just a common sense preventative measure. But how does the ad revenue work; does it pay when the ads are clicked, or just visible. If the former, there wouldn't be revenue from people like me. I never click ads of any sort.
adamical
04/14/2011, 14:36
Simple, it costs money for the domain, servers, and whatnot. If you do not donate, and you're blocking ads, which only create revenue when they're displayed, then no revenue is coming from your use of the site. Meaning that the revenue lost from your blocked ads can't be used for the further maintenance and upkeep for the site.
You still haven't pointed to what was stolen. Whose property has been taken?
Maybe I'm not being clear. Your assertion is akin, and similarly ridiculous, to the claims by networks that fast-forwarding through commercials with my DVR or going to the bathroom during commercials is stealing.
snatreaper
04/14/2011, 14:55
You still haven't pointed to what was stolen. Whose property has been taken?
Maybe I'm not being clear. Your assertion is akin, and similarly ridiculous, to the claims by networks that fast-forwarding through commercials with my DVR or going to the bathroom during commercials is stealing.
Not exactly. If you fast forward through a commercial, the network still got paid for airing it. If you block an internet ad that gets paid "per view" the software blocks it before it gets viewed, and therefore, the revenue never gets paid. So in a sense, by blocking those ads you are in fact stealing revenue from the site. Not that you're actually receiving the lost revenue, but the site isn't either.
Thorgrin
04/14/2011, 14:59
Ok, first off, I highly doubt that it's being placed on purpose to generate donations. I do believe they are coming from the ads from google, though.
With that said, in the event of what caused my thread a week or so ago, I was at my church's computer doing something, and while waiting for some reports to finish processing, I hopped on to hcrealms to check out some posts and what not. Did not bother to log in. So even if I was a donor, snatrapper, it would not have mattered. I would have still caught the virus (which was the case) anyway. So your argument about "become a donor" is lame at best. Sure, it may help, but for multiple sites and multiple logon points and I may not want to login using my credentials on a possible compromised system. So please, spare me the "donate or that's what you get" argument, because it gets old very fast.
I could provide another example of people logging in from work computers (while on lunch) and they don't want to put their login information on a work system because it may key log strokes (which is a legitimate concern for some). So there again, being a donor wouldn't solve anything.
shanbo83
04/14/2011, 15:03
i donated 5.00 and i still have the ads, it doesn't really bother me but how do i fix it?
Thorgrin
04/14/2011, 15:05
I would also like to say, I have no problem with ads/banners themselves.
If you do get infected, go to a non-infected computer and look up instructions on how to remove said malware. It's actually not too hard in the end. I use AVAST for an AV and it's blocking it just fine.
Also, the argument about ad blocking, so forth. No offense, but if I was running an ad blocker program, would you really expect me to turn it off for some sites and turn it on for others? Seriously.
FYI, if you're not a donor and you're blocking the ads, you may be stealing from the site owners.
Sorry, but thats bull. I use Firefox and Adblock for all sites, not just this one. The argument about the commercials on TV is not comparable since I can't get a virus on my TV that stops me from watching it.
Again, I have a right to protect my system, not just from bad ads on this site, but on all sites, so I use Adblock so I don't have to deal with it. I can't "steal" from a free to view site, and I am not "stealing" from the adds, since I don't click on them anyways and do not want to risk them being unsafe for my system. I roll the dice in Heroclix, not on the chance that my system will get trashed by a random add for something.
HunterSkunter
04/14/2011, 15:30
Donations are just that, donations. If someone is using AdBlock, they wouldn't be going to adds either way, so you aren't losing revenue from them, since its a traffic based system.
adamical
04/14/2011, 15:31
Not exactly. If you fast forward through a commercial, the network still got paid for airing it. If you block an internet ad that gets paid "per view" the software blocks it before it gets viewed, and therefore, the revenue never gets paid. So in a sense, by blocking those ads you are in fact stealing revenue from the site. Not that you're actually receiving the lost revenue, but the site isn't either.
No, the network gets paid based upon metrics of how many people are watching those commercials. They get paid accordingly less when the advertisers know that X% of viewers are not watching commercials. The end result is the same.
charlesdward
04/14/2011, 16:43
No, the network gets paid based upon metrics of how many people are watching those commercials. They get paid accordingly less when the advertisers know that X% of viewers are not watching commercials. The end result is the same.
I'm curious to know exactly how they know I hit the mute button and occupy myself otherwise while commercials are on. I haven't actually watched a commercial on TV in ages. Thanks to my intense personal dislike of being marketed to, I intend to keep it that way. :-)
SurreptitiousOne
04/14/2011, 18:52
I'm curious to know exactly how they know I hit the mute button and occupy myself otherwise while commercials are on. I haven't actually watched a commercial on TV in ages. Thanks to my intense personal dislike of being marketed to, I intend to keep it that way. :-)
Big Brother isn't just a TV show you know. ;) Or did they stop requiring that book be read in schools anymore?
phantalien
04/14/2011, 19:40
People, it is up to you to donate. Since you do donate one of the perks is that you will not see ads. Why will you not see ads it is because either through ads or a small donation (minimum $5) the site is making money. No Typhon is not rolling in the dough, but he does need to maintain the site somehow as it is his site and his creation and components. If you like the site and willing to donate that is fine. If you like the site and choose not to donate that is also fine. You have have any blocker or antivirus on your computer, it is not like we are going to track you down and say no. It is just the nature of the beast. However, because the site asks for donations there is no reason why people should complain that it is one of the many choices that can be used. Like I said, it is a choice. I would complain more because your computer is not internet safe as a lot of the choices mentioned above are pretty standard safeguards.
There is also no reason to chastise another member because they believe that it is worth donating $5. Much like how it is not right to chastise a non-donor for using the various blocking tools.
Edit: Forgot the main thing I was getting at...
It is always important to post these so that the admins can look up and see what specific ad is causing the problems so it can be fixed in one way or another. Also please remember that all of us mods/admins have real jobs in addition to helping out here on the site. We do know that there is a problem but it may take time.
I do not have the capability to fix this situation as a mod. Unless you want me to ban you and then unban you when it has been fixed. :p
i donated 5.00 and i still have the ads, it doesn't really bother me but how do i fix it?
When did you donate and what exactly are you seeing?
If you want to PM me your paypal transaction info for the donation I'll take a look at it and make sure you're account is actually set up properly..
I do not have the capability to fix this situation as a mod. Unless you want me to ban you and then unban you when it has been fixed. :p
Actually Neither I nor Typhon has the ability to fix this either.
What Typhon can do is report the specific ad (hence why it's important to let us know what you saw if it's up) so it can be reported to Google. Supposedly it'll be taken out of the rotation, but we need to find the culprit first before there can be any solution.
They are put here on purpose so that you donate. Don't think for a second that Typhon, can't get advertising without malware in it.
You're right typhon COULD go out and get advertisement that is without malware..
However such things need to be negotiated with companies that are going to sell product that's going to generate revenue, and that takes time.
Where as setting up google ads to help bring in some money is much easier to set up and takes less time..
As for the ads being put there on purpose.. That's asinine to believe. Why would a site that thrives on having many users see those ads (or being willing to donate so they don't see those ads) want to potentially ruin someone's computer so they can't log in?
Why would we WANT malware to drive away people?
How much sense does that make?
Iron Lantern
04/17/2011, 14:58
I just got a bad virus from this site and it wrecked my computer. I donated money to remove the adds after this happened about a year ago. I am at the point where I can only visit this site on my iPhone. Something needs to be done about all these viruses.
I just got a bad virus from this site and it wrecked my computer. I donated money to remove the adds after this happened about a year ago. I am at the point where I can only visit this site on my iPhone. Something needs to be done about all these viruses.
You got a virus even as a donor?
Can you say what you were doing at the time?
Were you logged in?
Manchine
05/01/2011, 20:00
I got a blocked ad that may be a security risk. I took a screenshot of it.
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/album.php?albumid=1729&pictureid=15988
While doing this I have another one at the bottem of the page.
had to reformat my computer today... got hit by a nasty virus over the weekend. after seeing this thread my guess is it came from this website.
a friend told me that because i have comcast i get norton security suite for free, so i have that installed now, hopefully it protects me, but it really is unacceptable that this website has this issue. i'm kind of afraid to log on here now.
phantalien
05/01/2011, 22:12
had to reformat my computer today... got hit by a nasty virus over the weekend. after seeing this thread my guess is it came from this website.
a friend told me that because i have comcast i get norton security suite for free, so i have that installed now, hopefully it protects me, but it really is unacceptable that this website has this issue. i'm kind of afraid to log on here now.
So without knowing where it came from, you blame the site? That does not make sense. However I am sorry that it happened. Here is some help.
There is a free antivirus out there that I like to use called AVG. It works very well, there are constant updates and unlike Norton or Mcaffe it doesn't slow my system down, and it is always free!
my guess is it came from this site, because it was similar to the ones described on here, and it happened while i was browsing the website.
ultimately it is my fault, i should have had the proper protection installed.
NickCarraway
05/01/2011, 22:38
I got the malware a few days ago, and when I realized it was the ads, I paid a $5 donation to remove them.
A) This is pretty much a textbook version of extortion, and computer extortion specifically.
B) When most people go to a new site, they do not expect it to infect their computer as a matter of going to the front page. SO by dropping some malware on you they rob your computer of productivity before you even get to find out about it.
I love this site and the fans on it, but the malware thing is like the Lady Cleo of the internet.
Where do you download the adblock thing? I have norton and it is constantly alerting me to phishing or spyware attacks when I'm on this site. I will try to pay better attention to which ads are up when I get attacks to help the problem get sorted out.
lastchance
05/01/2011, 22:54
It's bogus. Yeah, most things on the internet aren't free, but this is the only sight that doesn't promise me images of boobs that still gives viruses. Nuff said:a-fist:
Kamakura
05/01/2011, 22:57
@pg3wg: No Script is a browser plug-in that works well and is free.
http://noscript.net/ <-- my good deed for the century
Or you can always get a Mac!:grin:
phantalien
05/01/2011, 23:47
A) This is pretty much a textbook version of extortion, and computer extortion specifically.
B) When most people go to a new site, they do not expect it to infect their computer as a matter of going to the front page. SO by dropping some malware on you they rob your computer of productivity before you even get to find out about it.
I love this site and the fans on it, but the malware thing is like the Lady Cleo of the internet.
I am so glad you think so highly of the site. How about you go to another heroclix website since this place is filled with malware and we are also resorting to criminal activity to make money.
:cheeky::cheeky::cheeky:
Comments like this make me completely bitter because I donate my time to the site to make it better. When people say that the site extorts money from people, it is like saying that I am part of that, that I am part of the crime, and that I am a criminal. I do not like to be attributed to such things. That is quite hurtful. The worst part is that since I am linked to the site I cannot fully say what is on my mind because for some reason being a mod is held in a higher regard.
Fett0001
05/02/2011, 00:02
I am so glad you think so highly of the site. How about you go to another heroclix website since this place is filled with malware and we are also resorting to criminal activity to make money.
:cheeky::cheeky::cheeky:
Comments like this make me completely bitter because I donate my time to the site to make it better. When people say that the site extorts money from people, it is like saying that I am part of that, that I am part of the crime, and that I am a criminal. I do not like to be attributed to such things. That is quite hurtful. The worst part is that since I am linked to the site I cannot fully say what is on my mind because for some reason being a mod is held in a higher regard.
If the ads on a site I hosted were giving my customers malware, my first priority would be getting them fixed. I don't want to appear to be extorting them into donating, and I certainly don't want them blocking the ads that pay to keep the site up.
charlesdward
05/02/2011, 00:09
Where do you download the adblock thing? I have norton and it is constantly alerting me to phishing or spyware attacks when I'm on this site. I will try to pay better attention to which ads are up when I get attacks to help the problem get sorted out.
http://adblockplus.org/en/
charlesdward
05/02/2011, 00:12
If the ads on a site I hosted were giving my customers malware, my first priority would be getting them fixed. I don't want to appear to be extorting them into donating, and I certainly don't want them blocking the ads that pay to keep the site up.
I understand that the ads create revenue, but the honest truth is that it makes no difference what site I happen to be visiting or looking at - AdBlock and NoScript are on, always.
It's just too risky to do otherwise, imo.
phantalien
05/02/2011, 00:25
If the ads on a site I hosted were giving my customers malware, my first priority would be getting them fixed. I don't want to appear to be extorting them into donating, and I certainly don't want them blocking the ads that pay to keep the site up.
If I could fix it I would but I have no control over it. I can tell you why there are ads and a donation box.
This is a privately owned site. This means that one person owns it and runs it, with help as you can see (I don't get paid BTW). In order to keep the site running the site needs to generate money to take care of things like hardware, software, and other things that I am not sure about. One way that all sites generate money is through ads. Some sites are better than others with ads. I am pretty sure that the ads come from google, which is supposed to be a good one. I do not know of any other ad service so I cannot even speculate on that. There is also a donation button. Since someone is willing to donate it means that they don't have to look at the ads. Why? Because the donation is a type of revenue much like how ads are revenue. Since someone is nice enough and willing to donate the owner of the site felt that there was no need for the person donating should have to view the ads. Most of the time sites ask for a donation and don't do anything extra, or there are sites that just ask you to pay for the site.
I have gone through this so many times I am sick of it, but some people think that they are entitled to bash the site that they "love so much".
Despite the problems on the site the ads are not fully to blame. The person sitting in front of the computer needs to get with the program. There are so many tools out there that should be on the computer. There is antivirus software, ad blockers, firewalls, and other malware deterrents. These things must be on your computer if you are on a computer that is always connected to the internet. There are so many free things out there to be used. There are so many people on this site to help you to find those things. If you look inside these threads you will see the various links.
If this site was out to extort people, these threads with the free software links to get rid of the ads would be instantly deleted because obviously it is giving away information that is taking away revenue from the site. However, no one has ever censored those links or these threads. We do not go around and ban people who do not have donor status but claim to use an ad blocker.
So the next time you say the site is extorting money, think again.
All that the site asks is if you want to donate, then donate. Donate because you enjoy the site, and think it is worthy of a $5 or more donation. No one is forcing you. If you feel you are being forced then your computer is not safe from the internet regardless if it is this site or another site.
I got my donation before I became a mod and I still have to pay for my donation. I enjoy the site and donate because I want to. I have all of that adblocking and anti virus stuff on my computer, so if I don't donate I will be fine regardless.
Just stop besmirching the site and the admins. How about helping them as best as you can and let them know what ads you noticed before you had the problem. At the moment I am getting tired of the negativity.
i go to a lot of forums and none of them have malware problems like this one...
either way, i should have had the proper protection installed
i do now, so hopefully i won't run into anymore problems.
Herrbrane
05/02/2011, 05:26
i go to a lot of forums and none of them have malware problems like this one...
either way, i should have had the proper protection installed
i do now, so hopefully i won't run into anymore problems.
Just worning you that Norton kinda sucks as protection goes
sniksder
05/02/2011, 06:13
I am sure the excuse will be , that we don't have the time to do it beforehand, but...
Why can't every ad that is used be checked BEFORE it is used, otherwise it does look like this site is trying to raise more money by getting people to donate to remove the ads.
Not saying that is does, it just gives the look like that is what they are doing.
Also I have never ever made a purchase choice from any ad, be it from a website, tv ad, radio ad or a bill board, so ads to me don't even exist, can't see them don't care about them.
sniksder
05/02/2011, 06:15
Or you can always get a Mac!:grin:
Now see someone else who knows what matters in the computer world :)
jakekickass
05/02/2011, 06:29
Brand new computer. I have been to gmail.com, facebook.com and this site and now I have to download a virus program to get rid of whatever I caught here. I'm 100% sure that my facebook homepage and my email didn't cause whatever I caught. I haven't even put any programs on here yet.
So ya, I can tell you exactly what your problem is...
Quebbster
05/02/2011, 06:33
I am sure the excuse will be , that we don't have the time to do it beforehand, but...
Why can't every ad that is used be checked BEFORE it is used, otherwise it does look like this site is trying to raise more money by getting people to donate to remove the ads.
Not saying that is does, it just gives the look like that is what they are doing.
Also I have never ever made a purchase choice from any ad, be it from a website, tv ad, radio ad or a bill board, so ads to me don't even exist, can't see them don't care about them.
I don't think that is an option. You get the whole ad package, or you don't get any ads and thus no revenue.
I don't think it is extortion if someone offers FREE advice on how to avoid a problem they might be encountering as a result of voluntarily visiting a site that is FREE to the public.
I also continually find it amusing that so may "experts" seem to know exactly what someone who offers a FREE service to the community should do. These "experts" most likely have just as much experience in offering a FREE online service as they have in designing, developing, producing and bringing to market a game - because I am always seeing posts by "experts" who know exactly how NECA/WK should run their business as well.
As my wife is fond of saying, "Most people couldn't organize a dog fight!" But boy they can sure tell someone else how things should be done in areas where they have zero expertise.
So gosh, some options seem to be -
1. Get a Mac
2. Donate $5 (minimum)
3. Protect your computer like a grown-up
4. Avoid this site
Personally I do #1 which also takes care of #3. I also do #2 because with the amount of time and fun I get on this site I would feel like I was stealing if I didn't support it.
This site is amazing. Not perfect by any means, but the fact that it is so well put together and offers so much to the community for FREE is pretty amazing to a "techno-challenged" old-timer like myself. As a volunteer for the game and knowing the time I put in as a Judge I am amazed at the number of volunteers who serve on this site in addition to what they do locally.
Take a little personal responsibility boys. It will serve you well in life.
I am sure the excuse will be , that we don't have the time to do it beforehand, but...
Why can't every ad that is used be checked BEFORE it is used, otherwise it does look like this site is trying to raise more money by getting people to donate to remove the ads.
Not saying that is does, it just gives the look like that is what they are doing.
Also I have never ever made a purchase choice from any ad, be it from a website, tv ad, radio ad or a bill board, so ads to me don't even exist, can't see them don't care about them.
Also keep in mind that We do not control what ads get put into google's rotation. Ultimately they decide what goes up and what comes down.
darius_dax1
05/02/2011, 09:15
Also keep in mind that We do not control what ads get put into google's rotation. Ultimately they decide what goes up and what comes down.
Then because Google can't be bothered to protect their customers (RealmWorx in this case) from malware and viruses then RealmWorx should not use Google ads.
This is really a matter to be taken up with Google by Typhon.
Thrumble Funk
05/02/2011, 09:43
Then because Google can't be bothered to protect their customers (RealmWorx in this case) from malware and viruses then RealmWorx should not use Google ads.
This is really a matter to be taken up with Google by Typhon.
Well, in all fairness, Google stared down CHINA.
I've never met Typhon, but here's hoping he has some kind of strategy for fighting Google. Rope-a-dope probably won't get the job done. :laugh:
red king
05/02/2011, 09:58
AVG.com
or
AVAST.com
I use both of these at home. They are free, you can use them together, and the rare thing that gets past one gets caught by the other.
AVG.com
or
AVAST.com
I use both of these at home. They are free, you can use them together, and the rare thing that gets past one gets caught by the other.
Very true.
My signature also directs you to Mozilla and Ad-Block. They are free. They work. It will be like browsing a brand new internet. Enjoy
They are put here on purpose so that you donate. Don't think for a second that Typhon, can't get advertising without malware in it.
actually; I can't. We use 2 ad networks (down from 3, because one of them didn't sanitize ads and was causing similar problems). I don't control which ads are being served by those ad networks.
But just to let you know; I also see ads. I do not surf the site as a donor ... and I have yet to get hit by these malware (and trust me; I'm on the site a lot).
I will research the issue and ping both networks to see if they can't isolate the issue.
My suggestion if the run Microsoft Security Essentials and MalwareBytes; that's kept me pretty safe on the internet. :)
Donating does help to an extent if it's coming from ads; but it could literally be anything if you don't keep all your software updated (like abode reader; lots of vulnerabilities coming through there).
One thing to add is that as HeroClix becomes more popular (and a variety of other issues including WizKids making product available ... and maybe getting away from Alliance being the exclusive distributor), online stores will start to advertise directly with the site, which means that less and less impressions roll into the ad networks. Our current advertiser (CoolStuffInc.com has really stepped up; and some of our previous advertisers will be returning soon). All these lead to ads that are of interest to you; and make it so that ad networks provided a very small % of the ad rotation.
GreenMan
05/08/2011, 13:50
Well, in all fairness, Google stared down CHINA.
I've never met Typhon, but here's hoping he has some kind of strategy for fighting Google. Rope-a-dope probably won't get the job done. :laugh:
Rep. That's awesome.
veritas610349
05/08/2011, 14:21
Well, in all fairness, Google stared down CHINA.
I've never met Typhon, but here's hoping he has some kind of strategy for fighting Google. Rope-a-dope probably won't get the job done. :laugh:
Google will destroy Heroclix.
and maybe Typhon to... :noid:
Give 'em hell Typhon! go for the gut!:devious:
rorschachparadox
05/08/2011, 15:07
Well, in all fairness, Google stared down CHINA.
I've never met Typhon, but here's hoping he has some kind of strategy for fighting Google. Rope-a-dope probably won't get the job done. :laugh:
Thanks for the laugh Thrumble Funk, Rep to you!
actually; I can't. We use 2 ad networks (down from 3, because one of them didn't sanitize ads and was causing similar problems). I don't control which ads are being served by those ad networks.
But just to let you know; I also see ads. I do not surf the site as a donor ... and I have yet to get hit by these malware (and trust me; I'm on the site a lot).
I will research the issue and ping both networks to see if they can't isolate the issue.
My suggestion if the run Microsoft Security Essentials and MalwareBytes; that's kept me pretty safe on the internet. :)
Donating does help to an extent if it's coming from ads; but it could literally be anything if you don't keep all your software updated (like abode reader; lots of vulnerabilities coming through there).
One thing to add is that as HeroClix becomes more popular (and a variety of other issues including WizKids making product available ... and maybe getting away from Alliance being the exclusive distributor), online stores will start to advertise directly with the site, which means that less and less impressions roll into the ad networks. Our current advertiser (CoolStuffInc.com has really stepped up; and some of our previous advertisers will be returning soon). All these lead to ads that are of interest to you; and make it so that ad networks provided a very small % of the ad rotation.
First off Typhon, thanks for your site. I am not a donor (yet!) because this is honestly the first I'm hearing about viruses from your ads, and hadn't considered the need to block them out. I have a long-standing personal policy of never paying for a service over the internet (goods are a different story, I need to buy my clix!), but your site is the first site I have ever visited that made me reconsider that policy. And not because of what people like to loudmouth as "extortion," as HCR has done me absolutely no wrong, but because this is probably my single most visited web site both on my home computer and my phone. Once I get my budget balanced, I will be donating to the site because i love this freakin' site!
I use a variety of protection methods myself, because it should be well known that to do otherwise is idiocy. I have had viruses get past my defenses before, but I can guarantee that HCR was the last place that a virus would have been coming from on my laptop! :laugh:
Bottom line(s):
1. HCR is awesome, stop complaining about something that is Google's lazy careless fault. (Evil corporate monopolies :noid:)
2. Even if you don't block ads (which I don't, and as previously mentioned, nary a problem on the realms...) you are more than able to browse safe. If you have a PC and don't run some combination of AVG, Avast, AdAware, MalwareBytes, and plenty of others, then you deserve all the crap you get online, because you should know better.
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