Character Creation DARKOTH

[Manchine]

Well its Friday and its time for this weeks Character Creation. I figured I would pluck some character from Marvel's obscurity. Darkoth a Minion of DOOM. IF this guy didnt scream hero klix I dont know who could possible be better. He has a flurry of powers. He was a spy and he spied on the wrong person Doom. So Doom took him bent his will to be subservant to Doom and gave him a new cyborg body. Along with a complete change in his physical appearance, he's purple with a tail, and wings on his feet. Doom took away all his memories and replaced them with the memories that he was a Demon from Latveria Legend. Thats just mean. Darkoth can fly, phase through walls, mind control other people, fire heat rays, has claws and a tail, and his Skin is armoured up the yin-yang.

Well all, good/bad, comments are welcome. Where's everyone that use to comment on my characters DTM, Kiften, and Jaythor. I want to hear your comments also.


Darkoth Unique Minion of DOOM Flight Range 6 1 Bolts AE The Thing

Speed 8 8 8 7 7 6 6 5 5

Attack 11 10 10 9 9 8 8 7 7

Defense 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 13 12

Damage 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 1




Charge He rushs in like a mad demon out for blood.

Mind Control Mind control others to do his bidding

Phasing He can move through solid objects like they werent there.

Super Strength He is super strong. Weaker then the Thing but he is a power house.

Blade/Claws/Fangs He has the appearance of a demon. He got claws.

Invulnerability His armour is on par if not greater then Colossus.

Toughness Same as above




Home Grown Heroes (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9002&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) My personal Heroes and history.

Black Knight (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21947) ----- Tigra (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21577) ----- Beetle (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20979) ----- Fixer (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21259 ) ----- Absorbing Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20698) ----- Wonder Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22450) ----- US Agent (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22764) ----- Super Adaptiod (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23222) ----- Scorpion (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23427&highlight=Character+Creation) ----- Nimrod (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23958&highlight=Character+Creation) ----- Grandmaster (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24322) ----- Pluto (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24885) ----- Baron Zemo (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25548&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) ----- Spider-Man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26152) ----- Executioner (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26611&highlight=Character) ----- Colossus (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27093&highlight=Creation) ----- The Fly (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27679) ----- Namor (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28133) ----- Krang (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28826) ----- Sunfire (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29424) ----- Angel (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30127) -----Archangel (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30681)

[raging_madboy]

points after i get back from work, i gots to shower sorry

[montecchi]

i have to read up on this character... what issues was he in...
by the way, he'd make an awsome addition to the MoD but he'd be very hard to put into an army due to his high cost. i would imagine he cost well over 100 points

[Manchine]

I am expecting him to cost about 130 points. raging_madboy
(bull) is the guy I ask for the points on him. I dont have Excel. He will be posting them later today. So keep your eyes open.

He has been in a couple Fantastic Four story arcs. In everyone he is being controled by someone, DOOM or Diablo. Before he was transformed he was actually good friends with Ben Grimm.

His last APpearence that I know is 193 and 194 of the Fantastic Four.

[MidnigherApoll]

Looks like he'd be a great Clix! Diverse and good addition to Doom's team. Also, while I get that it's been stated that he has armour as powerful as Colossus', I feel that you shouldn't make an obscure character too powerful by giving him more than one or two click of a power lie Invulenrability. I get that he has it in the comcis, but I think a few clicks of this would show that fact off fine, without making a character with a small fan base have a point cost that is too high.
Love your reviews by the way!

[Manchine]

Oh he does far less damage then Colossus. He also has taken a punch from Thing and just stood there. It hurt him but nothing bad. I put his armour up one above Thing's and Colossus. He defantly needs more Invuln then 1-2 or even 3 kliqs.

Thats the problem with making this. SHould he be tougher then other characters, AKA Colossus. If he is portrayed that way yes. He's not that much tougher and Colossus could easily take him. So since Doc Samson is a Obscure character he should be able to be beat by spiderman. Nope its difference in power levels. Look at Super SKrull he was made how he is becuase thats him. Not dummed down becuase he should lose and has a small fan base.

[MidnigherApoll]

But the thing is Super-Skrull and Samson are much more popular than Darkoth. And even though Super-Skrull has the powers of the FF, doesn't mean he has them for the same amount of clicks. that would make his points sky-rocket, and his Clix usability plummet. I think that Darkoth may well be as Invulnerable as Colossus, but I think the way you made him with the diversity of powers, he could easily beat Colossus, despite what you say. I have no problem with him having the powers he needs for a little while, but you're falling into the trap many do, basing a characters on a select experience. Squirel Girl beat Dr. Doom once, but if they made a click of her, she should not be more powerful than her.

[MidnigherApoll]

I meant she should not be mroe powerful than Doom.

[Manchine]

AHh but Darkoth is consitant. He has beaten The FF once and Thing by himself. This guy wont be more powerful then Doom. Doom would destroy him, in most cases. He's only gonna be about 130 points, my guess. I will find out after Raging Madboy (bull) comes back on and tells me.

His attack and Defense stay high for a long time until the end. His damage drops way to fast. He loses charge to fast. All you got to do is 1 kliq. I was thinking about dropping his Range down to 6, which I will do. He has a stressful time emmiting his heat beams. Other then that he's not that tough. Vet Colossus should have a hard time beating him but its pretty close to 50/50. Thing right now probable can beat him with his Vet form. His Experienced form probable be close to 50/50 again. He's not really that powerful.

SuperSKrulls powers and abilities dont drop to much until he loses his Invuln. By himself he can beat the Thing most of the time. Running shot makes it so he can.

[raging_madboy]

A cool clean 150 points. Might tough but i think the unique elektra can kill him, hell i think she can kill everyone though, not that that makes any d@mn sense but....thats another thread

[Manchine]

Dang Mind control and Phasing are expensive. This I think is a little to much. Hmmm

[raging_madboy]

Its not phasing, its the invulnerability

[Manchine]

One of the problems was I was looking at Vet Thing. Trying to make him better then he was. I was thinking Exp Thing and looking at vet Thing. How's this MidnigherApoll? Dropped his Invul to 3.

[CaptainCarl]

overall a very playable clix fig

dont really know who he is but i do like that combo i think no other figure has it

superstrenth then bcf i could be mistaken though

nice fig

thecaptain

[Manchine]

Pic history and powers.

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/darkoth.htm

[raging_madboy]

134 and a quarter points, that took him down quite a bit still a very dangerous piece on the other side of the board

[Manchine]

Now that looks like its a lot closer to what I want. 134 points. The perfect Minion of Doom other then Doom.

[Manchine]

Ahh behold the power of BUMP. Becuase some people havent seen it. :( :D ;) :p

[JayThor]

I remember this guy from a Thor issue #325, that he was released from the demon and left to RIP. It refrences to that old FF story. Great story, and a good representation, Manchine!

[sol]

If Darkoth has Amazing Strentgh, why did you give him 4 clicks of damage? He shouldn't have more than 3.

His Marvel Universe entry lists him as having the ability to lift about 50 tons. All the characters in HC in the 25-50 ton range (Doc Samson(which was erroneous, but they made him like that for his rookie),Rogue, Mr. Hyde) do 3 clicks of damage.

[Manchine]

Well its iffy thats why. The orignal set (IC) had them all at three damage. With the last 2 sets (CT and XP). They have been slightly adding damage to the characters. Just slight one's here and there. So I made 1 Klix of 4 damage. He's actually slightly stronger then 50 tons but not enough to be Mounstrous (75). So I gave him 1 klix of 4 damage.

[sol]

Well, according to the OHMUBotD, he can lift about 50 tons, which means not quite, not 'slightly over'. I just don't think he would do 4 clicks, but hey man, it's your thread.:p

[Manchine]

OHMUBotD, Is that the Doom one, got that one if it is? Well in the comics he is weaker but not by much. Its like Scorpion can lift 11 tons. But he has Incredible Strength Thats still incredible but he is slightly stronger then Spidey.

PS yes I know the stats. Most off the top of me head. Had that thing memorized forwards and backwards. I have most of those books. Just missing a few.

[JayThor]

I reread the Thor story where he finally gets to rest in peace, after seeing this thread. He fought Thor for HOURS. I say give him 4 damage. It is more than just the tonnage, it is the powers that support it.

[Agent_X]

My point calculator had him at 149, though I'm not sure which formula it is running. It isn't in Excel, so If you want it Manchine just IM or PM me.

[CoolJerk]

Hi, Manchine -

um, you might want to reconsider Darkoth's Mind Control ability; his "firehorns" didn't control minds, they absorbed mental energy and fired this energy back at his opponent.

The irony of mind control and Darkoth: Darkoth was manipulated by someone else in pretty much every appearance. Not exactly mind control, but certainly at the bidding of another.

Try a click or two of Psychic Blast replacing a click of B/C/F and/or Super Strength and see what the numbers bring you.

[Manchine]

Powers:
Cyborg Body: Major portions of Pitt's body were replaced with steel alloy and he further mutated from chemical means
Armor Skin:
Claws:
Prehensile Tail:
Heat Emmision:
Kinetic Bolt:
Mind Control:
Winged Flight:
Phasing:

[Manchine]

U Darkoth
Team: Minion of Doom
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 131
Keywords: Brute
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