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bill4935
05/07/2011, 21:16
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GUY GARDNER

My favourite Green Lantern is an angry, angry man. Why so angry? Is it the size 20 moon boots? The Moe Howard haircut? Or that it took 9 years for us to get a great Gardner Clix? And if he's so great, what makes him great - besides the see-thru orange glowing chainsaw?

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bill4935
05/07/2011, 21:17
an039 V Guy Gardner
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8:bolt:
Points: 110
Keywords: Green Lantern Corps, Justice League International, Red Lantern Corps.
m-winga-fistd-indomitableg-starburst121117410111631010162910163891538915289162KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star: The Antagonist: If Guy Gardner has no action tokens, he can use Close Combat Expert.
<img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/80851/HCRealms.com/201105/guy.jpg" style="width:175px;padding-right:5px" align="left" title="He never really liked his green uniform.">I won't lie, the Justice League version of Guy Gardner was a real disappointment. I said, "Super Rare Guy, just because you're hotheaded and aggressive shouldn't mean you're this easy to hit". Yes, I talk to my Heroclix figures. Don't you? But anyway, here we are again. DC75 Guy has atrocious defenses for his point class - he gets a 17:d-normal: to start, and it all goes down from there.

But that's the only thing wrong with Guy. Everything else is perfect. I love how he's the only character in his class that can do 6 damage without an object*. I love that he can sit in hindering with a 20:d-normal:, blasting away with 11:a-fist: - just begging for someone to base him. I love his last-click Invulnerability, his JLI keyword and his Flurry-Blades combo.
*Except for Ulik.

Top tip: In HeroClix, you can't just run into battle and start swinging away, even if that's what the character would do. Well maybe you can with Juggernaut. But not Guy! Avoid that temptation, fire some ranged shots and let them come to you. Once you're based, try like holy heck to get one good CCE attack in before your 15:d-normal: gets you KOed.

What's your opinion of the mop-top ring-slinger? Tell us what you think by posting your comments in the HCRealms.com units review by following the link here (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299801).

spacebear
05/08/2011, 06:34
I really like this fig but speaking of the orange see thru chainsaw, does anyone actually know why he is so orange instead of red? At first I thought it was just a fluke on my fig but every image I've seen, he's like that.

broodwarjc
05/08/2011, 07:19
I really like this fig but speaking of the orange see thru chainsaw, does anyone actually know why he is so orange instead of red? At first I thought it was just a fluke on my fig but every image I've seen, he's like that.

For the millionth time that is how he looks in the comic. He had a green and red ring at the same time and his colors got mixed and orange was what the artist decided he should be.

Love the article and the piece, my personal favorite green lantern from DC75.

Mon_ami
05/08/2011, 07:43
Love the DC75 Guy, what a great piece and very cost effective at 110. I painted my Guy red, couldn't stand the orange, so bye bye see thru orange STIHL.

WakandaMan
05/08/2011, 08:14
Green and Red mixed together should make Brown. Icky icky brown.

Anyway, I painted my Guy into his classic Green Duds, but have had lots of trouble trying to use him. But as pointed out, I've been basing opponents with him to make use of his CCE and EW. Sniping at range is actually a fantastic idea. I'll have to try doing that instead.

Also nice that the Battle Fury is improved. Haven't tried him since that change.

flakbait
05/08/2011, 10:05
I still don't have this one. :( The old one has always succeeded only in disappointing me.

Baron Impossible
05/08/2011, 10:06
sniper gardner is a great tactic. my buddy played it against the xmen and the only one who bothered to try to attack him was hit&run nightcrawler since no one wanted to stay next to him.

STUimus Prime
05/08/2011, 10:18
Nice review. I think the orange is a mistake. He was red in the comics, not orange. The mixed color excuse is a nice try at an explanation, but im not buying it. Im painting one red & one green. I might paint one half & half, I pulled 4. Planning on playing them together as a stand in red lantern corps.

NeoShazam
05/08/2011, 10:21
I'll need to try him again and snipe, but I'm worried a lucky shot for 3 would make him as clunky as the old one.

I don't mind the lower defenses, I just wish he started with reducers and charge. Basically Vet Origin Hawkman's dial minus the leadership, lower the attack values, increase the damage values and gain Invulnerability to the damage reducing.

WolvieFan9
05/08/2011, 10:29
While nobody likes to see 15 Defense these days, I understand what the designers are trying to do with Guy -- he is the kind of guy who rushes in and attacks without thought to defense, trusting to his ability to take the other guy out first.

You can compensate for this by teaming him up with some super buddies for Guy... on a Green Lantern team, John Stewart and Ch'p are his bestest buddies. (John Stewart's special power + Defend makes him even more of a team player.) On a JLI team, CD Ice and DC75 Wonder Woman are his buddies. And on a Red Lantern team... well, hopefully he can soften your opponents up while you get Mera and Atrocious in to tie up your opponents, and then Guy can hang to the outside of the battle and blast into it.

(You know the whole reason this dial was designed this way is so that a triple-Perplexed Batman with a critical hit could one-hit knock him out, right? :laugh:)

flashshello
05/08/2011, 10:38
Nice review. I think the orange is a mistake. He was red in the comics, not orange. The mixed color excuse is a nice try at an explanation, but im not buying it. Im painting one red & one green. I might paint one half & half, I pulled 4. Planning on playing them together as a stand in red lantern corps.

The orange coloring to Guy is not a mistake on the heroclix figure.
Example:
Comicvine Guy Gardner Pic (http://www.comicvine.com/guy-gardner/29-1791/red-lantern-guy-gardner/108-331261/guy_13/105-1147624/)

GreenMan
05/08/2011, 11:07
The sculpt is great, the dial is decent. The indomitable makes him good. And using him as a range attacker first is wise. I am almost always able to remove him from the game, though. The last time I played against one, I knocked him into invuln, Then killed him with Judge Anderson.

I've yet to play him, and I'd like to try him out. Especially on a JLI team.

When using his trait, you're able to use lunge, correct?

GreenMan
05/08/2011, 11:21
sniper gardner is a great tactic. my buddy played it against the xmen and the only one who bothered to try to attack him was hit&run nightcrawler since no one wanted to stay next to him.

Could you imagine Nightcrawler WITH Guy in a kill box?
I feel unclean now.

fastcat99
05/08/2011, 12:21
For the millionth time that is how he looks in the comic. He had a green and red ring at the same time and his colors got mixed and orange was what the artist decided he should be.

Love the article and the piece, my personal favorite green lantern from DC75.

Sorry, I'm still not quite following you....why is he orange?

gatharion
05/08/2011, 12:53
All I've done with mine is prime him and put him in a box with other figures waiting to get some paint. Mine will be green eventually.

Haven't played with or against him.

Wombatboy
05/08/2011, 13:13
All it takes to change him from orange to red is a red Sharpie pen. I did it and mine looks great.

tyroclix
05/08/2011, 13:13
I'll need to try him again and snipe, but I'm worried a lucky shot for 3 would make him as clunky as the old one.

I don't mind the lower defenses, I just wish he started with reducers and charge. Basically Vet Origin Hawkman's dial minus the leadership, lower the attack values, increase the damage values and gain Invulnerability to the damage reducing.

At 23 points cheaper + Indomitable, even 3 clicks in the new Guy is better than the starting click of the Justice League SR and is a lot better than the SR after 3 damage (which is only 1 taken after Invuln).

Kizer
05/08/2011, 13:22
I have tried him a few times in a red lantern theme team. I know he has potential to be awesome, but it seems every time I use him, all the worst possible things that could happen do happen.

My favorite clix have a way of betraying me, it seems :/

rorschachparadox
05/08/2011, 13:34
(You know the whole reason this dial was designed this way is so that a triple-Perplexed Batman with a critical hit could one-hit knock him out, right? :laugh:)

I know you were making a joke here, so don't shoot me for bypassing it :grin:
But critical hits are still subject to the Rule of 3, correct? If not, that's awesome, but I'd always just assumed they were.

sparks4289
05/08/2011, 13:45
Sorry, I'm still not quite following you....why is he orange?

because thats the color he was in the comic book

Carbon Rod
05/08/2011, 13:53
I've played Guy on both JLI teams and in sealed games. Out of six games of using him (in two three round tournaments) he's only been KO'ed once. In fact, in one game Guy got knocked back for 4 damage on his top clix, landed on Thor's hammer, and next turn picked it up. He then proceeded to slaughter the Sinestro Corp (with many assists from the JLI. The same game DC75th Animal Man took down Sinestro Corp Batman by himself. It was ridiculous).

Guy's an offensive monster. Like Bill said in his review, sit back and snipe with Guy while the rest of the team moves into position/tie's up. Guy works best in 400 point plus games where he can be a secondary attacker that your opponent will either 1) forget about until they're blasted for 4 a couple times or 2) have to deal with a lot of tie up pieces while Guy and your primary attacker tag team your opponents big gun.

mormos
05/08/2011, 15:31
amazing sniper. pair him up with blue beetle & booster gold to lend a 12 attack and outwit. Then use mister miracle and oberon to hold enemies in place while you blast away for 4 damage. JLI just got so much better.

Mokole
05/08/2011, 17:16
Why choose Red Green Guy? He'll be your only choice in Modern Age starting on the 15th...
...And that comic of Guy is Red not orange, I own it... we don't all see colors the same though, red/orange and blue/indigo/violet can be hard for many to distinguish. I mean humans can't even see all the colors in the spectrum. We know of them just can't see them

bluesummers
05/08/2011, 17:34
Op, that's not CCE, that's Exploit Weakness. He doesn't do 6 damage anywhere on his dial outside of Blades or Flurry.
And if we're talking blades, I know a few pieces who do that for a lot cheaper. :p

Gideonan
05/08/2011, 18:00
I got to use Guy on a 400 point Green Lantern team and it was a very good day. I took a pic of the team and the custom dice I had for them. The way the turns generally went was they got closer. Then Sinestro tossed Guy at something and Sinestro and Hal Perplexed up Guy's to hit. It was great fun. :)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230106_2038175559914_1410015097_2407986_671736_n.jpg

From a technical point of view if you have a TKer Guy will rip things in half. He pretty much took apart Thor in 2 rounds using that strategy.

scspade
05/08/2011, 18:09
Op, that's not CCE, that's Exploit Weakness. He doesn't do 6 damage anywhere on his dial outside of Blades or Flurry.
And if we're talking blades, I know a few pieces who do that for a lot cheaper. :p

Guy's trait gives him CCE

Shoggoth
05/08/2011, 18:10
The last few games I've played with Guy, he's just gotten rocked because I simply imagined him as a "Run in and CHAINSAW EVERYTHING" piece because he's just that kinda guy.

But using him at range and getting my opponent to base makes me think I wasn't paying attention to that top-clicked ES/D.

Silly me. He, Booster, and Ted Kord will be having a lot more fun in the future.

Thunderclese
05/08/2011, 18:20
Op, that's not CCE, that's Exploit Weakness. He doesn't do 6 damage anywhere on his dial outside of Blades or Flurry.
And if we're talking blades, I know a few pieces who do that for a lot cheaper. :p

He has CCE as a trait when he has zero action tokens, and 4 damage up top.

Ignatz_Mouse
05/08/2011, 19:02
I've had great luck on JLI teams with him, Ice, Fire and OOTS Batman.

CapnMorgan
05/08/2011, 21:07
I'll need to try him again and snipe, but I'm worried a lucky shot for 3 would make him as clunky as the old one.

Are you kidding me? Having a ten attack with flurry and battle fury, I would love to get knocked onto that click! That's the, "I'm going to murder a Nightcrawler" click!

The Werle
05/08/2011, 23:04
Guy and St Walker: Bestest Buds.

NeoShazam
05/08/2011, 23:40
At 23 points cheaper + Indomitable, even 3 clicks in the new Guy is better than the starting click of the Justice League SR and is a lot better than the SR after 3 damage (which is only 1 taken after Invuln).

Well yeah; but I would take a low cost, taunting, only can take 1 punch (3 damage) Guy Gardner over the JL SR...that piece makes it seem like they had a competition of which anti-hero character's fans they could they could over cost and make frustrating to use between Guy Gardner and Lobo (both SRs by the way).

The last few games I've played with Guy, he's just gotten rocked because I simply imagined him as a "Run in and CHAINSAW EVERYTHING" piece because he's just that kinda guy.

But using him at range and getting my opponent to base makes me think I wasn't paying attention to that top-clicked ES/D.

Silly me. He, Booster, and Ted Kord will be having a lot more fun in the future.

Me too !
It's like Guy Gardner, American Psycho.
And the free push to Exploit for 4 has been enough to entice me to base, but I might hang out a little longer.

Are you kidding me? Having a ten attack with flurry and battle fury, I would love to get knocked onto that click! That's the, "I'm going to murder a Nightcrawler" click!

Well I'm afeared of him getting hit onto that click and being near no enemy figures, so you're gonna have to waste another action moving and hoping you don't get outwitted and/or ended on that next turn.

Soferiel
05/08/2011, 23:49
I agree with the guy that painted it Red!!!

CapnMorgan
05/09/2011, 00:03
Well Neo, that's when you play him with the other lanterns from this set or Ch'p from the GL set. Oh no, I've taken three damage and I have no tokens....Launch me Squirrel Boy! VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMM! Oops, didn't mean to splat you so hard Mr. Nightcrawler.

Ignatz_Mouse
05/09/2011, 00:16
I painted one Red and one Green.

Amora's_best_friend
05/09/2011, 03:58
Am I the only one who likes the JL super rare? He has a surprisingly versatile dial. Whenever I've played him his Enhancement and TK have popped up just at the right moment, and I've won with him all 4 times. Sure, 16 is a little low, but that's what Gypsy is for.

dairoka
05/09/2011, 09:00
Nothing to add, really. I just really like Guy.

Quebbster
05/09/2011, 09:02
I need to play this Guy sometime, strictly for the pleasure of saying "Rage... taking over..." any time he takes damage. :)

specialmagic
05/09/2011, 10:19
I really like using him with Kyle, the two work really well together. The perplex can be helpful on defense, and the tk is awesome to either put him in place for a huge hit or pull him away from an opponent. And it's comic accurate!

specialmagic
05/09/2011, 10:24
Green and Red mixed together should make Brown. Icky icky brown.

In this case, Green and Red would make yellow, as they are colors of light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color)

I'm just saying. :noid:

kujonomore
05/09/2011, 12:39
I pulled him in sealed, what a beast... I had Guy, Osiris and Deadshot

That was a fun team to play. I'd really like to get a second one and paint him green so I'd feel better playing him on a GL team.

Baron Impossible
05/09/2011, 12:59
prolly not the thread to ask in, but it's been mentioned several times.

what's the best paint to use on clix? acrylic isn't doing it for me as it wont stick to the piece. (to note i'm trying to paint SI Ms Marvel's green skin to caucassian, but i may want to green up guy too)

NightCastle
05/09/2011, 13:27
prolly not the thread to ask in, but it's been mentioned several times.

what's the best paint to use on clix? acrylic isn't doing it for me as it wont stick to the piece. (to note i'm trying to paint SI Ms Marvel's green skin to caucassian, but i may want to green up guy too)

Actually, I used acrylic for that exact purpose (painted for a friend) and had no issue. maybe you need a little water mixed in your acrylic as it is water based and will thin out a little with water.

I think the coloring is as close to the comic as was possible without making him as red as the others. If you compare pics of him to pics of Atricitus he has a little less intensity of the red.

On topic, his dial is much nicer than his previous dial. He is a great support piece in that he can snipe and hang in melee.

GreenMan
05/09/2011, 19:06
prolly not the thread to ask in, but it's been mentioned several times.

what's the best paint to use on clix? acrylic isn't doing it for me as it wont stick to the piece. (to note i'm trying to paint SI Ms Marvel's green skin to caucassian, but i may want to green up guy too)

Warhammer. Terrific figure paint.

BluSummers
05/09/2011, 19:14
Ok... as for the OP's question on game mechanics... he's a good up front shooter... then you have to throw him into combat ASAP once he's off that first click. And yes... I'm the guy sitting across the table making chainsaw noises.

As for the the other nonsense...

For the millionth time that is how he looks in the comic. He had a green and red ring at the same time and his colors got mixed and orange was what the artist decided he should be.


WHAT?! He's RED. Red and green do not orange make. Where did you get this information at? Wizkids botched the color pallette on him making him orange.

Because thats the color he was in the comic book

Ummm... no. No he wasn't.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/1063192-guy_1_large.jpg

And since he's taken a red ring yet again, Atrocitus' own ring no less, during the current "War of the Green Lanterns" arc, he's still not orange.

http://www.comicgasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/GL59.jpg

kujonomore
05/10/2011, 10:46
Made a trade for Guy Gardner #2 last night (thanks for the motivation guys) I'm going to try to paint him up this weekend. I'm not the best at it but I will post up pics (no matter how badly it turns out) :noid:

Nitecralwer24
05/14/2011, 11:01
with vampirism, he has literally sat on those 15 def clix forever ^^ wish he had the warrior keyword, though. after all for a while that was his name!

kujonomore
05/15/2011, 19:07
I painted up Guy #2 in green, he turned out pretty fair.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317516