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WizKidsNECA
06/01/2011, 09:50
Greetings HeroClix Fans!
As we hinted last week, today’s preview features none other than the daughter of the Red Skull himself, Synthia Schmidt, otherwise known as Sin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHetRTOD1Q)!
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Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 09:58
Pic attached for those trapped behind firewalls.
songwriterz
06/01/2011, 10:01
Lego Mini Face!
Good for the points and a nice range of powers and abilities, but the sculpt is mega-meh!
anyone else notice that the pic of her base looks like the GF version?
Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 10:04
Lego Mini Face!
Good for the points and a nice range of powers and abilities, but the sculpt is mega-meh!
I actually love the sculpt, but wish she had better paint job on the face.
If she looks like that out of the booster, I will have to perform some cosmetic surgery. :p
anyone else notice that the pic of her base looks like the GF version?
*gasp!* :confused:
It's...almost as if were two previews in one!!! :noid:
That can't be right... ;)
Darknesspwns
06/01/2011, 10:10
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
origamiman
06/01/2011, 10:12
What a great figure! She's capable of a LOT of damage in a three-turn spread thanks to her trait and willpower. Awesome...just needs a smaller head.
Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 10:13
What a great figure! She's capable of a LOT of damage in a three-turn spread thanks to her trait. Awesome...just needs a smaller head.
It's her hair, not her head.
Her stylist is from Jersey. :laugh:
I think it is a major error on WK's part to have a digital image of what the figure should look like on the card and not have at least a close approximation of it as the figure. The paint job reminds me of Critical Mass.
Love the dial and the trait. I'm glad it doesn't specify which set Red Skull and Crossbones has to be from.
RickRocker
06/01/2011, 10:14
anyone else notice that the pic of her base looks like the GF version?
GF Version? Did I miss something? I noticed the difference in the dial she's on and the top-down picture of her dial, but I don't know what you mean by GF.......
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 10:15
she could be a powerhouse! all that for 57 points? SCARY!
presidentluthor
06/01/2011, 10:16
Holy goodnight that's good!
It's a shame she was designed before her redesign into The Red Skulll in the comics.
Pretty decent dial though. I'm guessing we won't get "Worthy" chases like the WL's.
As for the tease, I'm guessing they're gonna preview Nick Fury.
gatharion
06/01/2011, 10:18
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
Maria Hill would be my guess.
GF Version? Did I miss something? I noticed the difference in the dial she's on and the top-down picture of her dial, but I don't know what you mean by GF.......
Gravity Feed.
Like the GLs in Target, some of the sculpts are getting reused, but with new dials, and sold in single-figure boosters.
Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 10:18
GF Version? Did I miss something? I noticed the difference in the dial she's on and the top-down picture of her dial, but I don't know what you mean by GF.......
GF = Gravity Feed
It's a shame she was designed before her redesign into The Red Skulll in the comics.
Well, this is the Experienced version of the character. ;)
daedalus25
06/01/2011, 10:21
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
My guess is Maria Hill.
snatreaper
06/01/2011, 10:23
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
My guess would be Nick Fury.
Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 10:24
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
My guess is Maria Hill.
My guess would be Nick Fury.
We should start a pool. Who's in? :classic:
broodwarjc
06/01/2011, 10:25
I am in for Maria Hill.
GF Version? Did I miss something? I noticed the difference in the dial she's on and the top-down picture of her dial, but I don't know what you mean by GF.......
Gravity Feed.
She's not bad for her points, but her Keywords for a Keyword only player make her difficult to use for me. Here's hoping that they fill her Keywords out a little in the Gravity Feed version, or give us some Skeleton Crew and a good number of Serpent Society in the set.
Sounds like Nick Fury will be the preview on Friday!!
broodwarjc
06/01/2011, 10:26
Gravity Feed.
She's not bad for her points, but her Keywords for a Keyword only player make her difficult to use for me. Here's hoping that they fill her Keywords out a little in the Gravity Feed version, or give us some Skeleton Crew and a good number of Serpent Society in the set.
Sounds like Nick Fury will be the preview on Friday!!
I hope we get enough good Skeleton Crew members for a good team, one of my favorite pieces from Avengers was Crossbones.
saturnflight
06/01/2011, 10:27
They've already said that this set will feature the Serpent Society. I'm not concerned about Sin getting some keyworded allies...
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 10:29
who are all/were the leaders of S.H.I.E.L.D.?
We should start a pool. Who's in? :classic:
With the wording, Maria Hill. If she's as playable as Sin, I will be very happy.
Ms. Skull looks good. The only think I would have liked to see on her would be the Doom or Hydra TA. Barring that, nice fig.
who are all/were the leaders of S.H.I.E.L.D.?
The Big Three would be Fury, Hill and Stark.
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 10:38
wouldn't Stark be the most controversial? wasn't his run during Civil War?
wouldn't Stark be the most controversial? wasn't his run during Civil War?
Maria Hill tried to arrest Captain America. Then he stole a jet... While it was flying.
shabunia
06/01/2011, 10:45
It's her hair, not her head.
Her stylist is from Jersey. :laugh:
:rolls eyes::rolleyes: not you too muncho, that show has done nothing but ruined the board walk lol, i cant buy a deep fried oreo with out seeing a jersey shore reference. :p
Clixkilla
06/01/2011, 10:48
Maria Hill tried to arrest Captain America. Then he stole a jet... While it was flying.
And threaten to pitch the pilot out if he didn't play get away man.
Anyways -
WOW!
In theory she can deal 12 damage in one turn. Stay with me. . .
Her RCE, 4 damage
Give Skull a power action , Sin gets free action, RCE, 4 damage
Give Crossbones a power action, Sin gets free action RCE, 4 damage.
4 + 4 + 4 = 12
For only 57 pts.
:eek:
masterprotoss23
06/01/2011, 10:48
With the wording "one time controversial director" I'd have a hard time accepting that clue for Fury. Isn't he the current director? which would make him two time, and since he was the original, wouldn't that not make him controversial?
No Stark since FCBD Iron Man is basically him as the Director.
So I'm in for Maria Hill!
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 10:48
Maria Hill tried to arrest Captain America. Then he stole a jet... While it was flying.
great now I need to go find my civil war books. you just wasted my day, thanks for that :angry: ;)
next week's preview possibilities: Nick Fury, Maria Hill. Iron Man, or if we really want to stretch it the unseen director that was around when nick fury was just beginning as an agent of shield.
Wasn't Dum-Dum Dugan or George Washington Bridge interim director once or twice?
I'll bet it is maria hill.... just because she may show up in the cap movie.. Cobie (could have been wonder woman) Smulders!
And threaten to pitch the pilot out if he didn't play get away man.
Anyways -
WOW!
In theory she can deal 12 damage in one turn. Stay with me. . .
Her RCE, 4 damage
Give Skull a power action , Sin gets free action, RCE, 4 damage
Give Crossbones a power action, Sin gets free action RCE, 4 damage.
4 + 4 + 4 = 12
For only 57 pts.
:eek:
Except for the "Once per turn" part. But, it just hit me that this little minx can act three times every two turns if you play it right. She is almost scary at 57 points! Keep her in stealth with RCE and just shoot the bejeezus out of everyone!
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 10:57
Except for the "Once per turn" part. But, it just hit me that this little minx can act three times every two turns if you play it right. She is almost scary at 57 points! Keep her in stealth with RCE and just shoot the bejeezus out of everyone!
57 points will work nicely with 50 point spideys
Clixkilla
06/01/2011, 10:59
Oops. :o
Still, eight damage is not too friggin shabby.
BaboonJuice
06/01/2011, 10:59
Not too shabby. She will be very useful in the booster tourneys. Can't wait to see the other Serpent Society figs in the set.
robedestroyer
06/01/2011, 11:03
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
As for the tease, I'm guessing they're gonna preview Nick Fury.
Maria Hill would be my guess.
My guess is Maria Hill.
My guess would be Nick Fury.
Sounds like Nick Fury will be the preview on Friday!!
I am in for Maria Hill.
With the wording, Maria Hill.
The Big Three would be Fury, Hill and Stark.
wouldn't Stark be the most controversial? wasn't his run during Civil War?
Maria Hill tried to arrest Captain America.
So I'm in for Maria Hill!
Whoever it is, I bet they were controversial at one time or another.
Milo Garret
06/01/2011, 11:04
So she can take an action to gain a token, then in the same turn take another action as a free action? Then next turn she takes the free action and then uses willpower for another action which gives her a second token. All for 57 points! Holy poop that is good! Sure there are restrictions to being able to take that free action, but if I am right then that is just an awesome trait. And I love her keywords.
aqhoffman
06/01/2011, 11:04
Wow, that is a huge disparity between the picture on the card and the painted figure. Surpised it made it through to release looking like that. Yeah, it does look like a mini lego figure, whereas the pic on the card is great.
I'm betting in the pool that its Maria Hill also.
spiderhero
06/01/2011, 11:07
I don't like the alternating powers. Reminds me of Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy from B&tB. Also, RS & CR together? Still, she can do alot of damage for her points. I'm sure I'll use her a time or 2. As a common, I'll certainly get plenty of them.
robedestroyer
06/01/2011, 11:08
Holy poop that is good!
Rep for a wonderful line.
malicetoman
06/01/2011, 11:09
Aside from the telephone booth object token, how are you going to get her to her second click? I thought you could no longer turn powers off.
And threaten to pitch the pilot out if he didn't play get away man.
Anyways -
WOW!
In theory she can deal 12 damage in one turn. Stay with me. . .
Her RCE, 4 damage
Give Skull a power action , Sin gets free action, RCE, 4 damage
Give Crossbones a power action, Sin gets free action RCE, 4 damage.
4 + 4 + 4 = 12
For only 57 pts.
:eek:
The Skulls and Crossbones cost you points too, and won't be using their action to deal any damage.
Aside from the telephone booth object token, how are you going to get her to her second click? I thought you could no longer turn powers off.
Willpower is now worded with a "may", making it optional. You can take pushing damage if you so choose.
Except for the "Once per turn" part. But, it just hit me that this little minx can act three times every two turns if you play it right. She is almost scary at 57 points! Keep her in stealth with RCE and just shoot the bejeezus out of everyone!
She could act four times in two turns, if on the second turn you activate her trait, while she still has one action token, before you use her own non-free action.
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 11:17
She could act four times in two turns, if on the second turn you activate her trait, while she still has one action token, before you use her own non-free action.
thats a good idea, didn't think of that
Thunderclese
06/01/2011, 11:18
As far as controversial one-time directors of SHIELD go, I'd say Maria Hill. She did try to arrest Cap and all that during Civil War. And for the most part nobody liked her.
Milo Garret
06/01/2011, 11:20
Time to dust off my Serpent Society ATA :grin:
She could act four times in two turns, if on the second turn you activate her trait, while she still has one action token, before you use her own non-free action.
Yes, but then she's stuck with two tokens and can't act on the third turn. Either would work, depending on the situation. I like to keep my options open, but if that 4th attack is going to KO someone, I might take it.
But still, the possibility of acting every turn with no pushing is absolutely fantastic on a 57 point piece with a 4 damage potential. Or (for clicks 2 and 4) a running shot ranged attack, outwit, Power Action free attack on someone who now lacks damage reducers.
Any way you slice it, she rocks.
Granite Moose
06/01/2011, 11:23
Sin's dial looks very playable and the possibilities for major annoyances are certainly there. Sin's picture on her character card looks great. Sin's sculpt as previewed looks terrible. Let's hope the actual booster product looks better.
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/01/2011, 11:24
as much as I have been raking the figures by the least important things I can think of Sin will prob be used a lot by me
Sharkbite
06/01/2011, 11:25
My money is down for a "Tony Stark" figure that is not Iron Man. Possibly it will AE into Iron Man, but this will be the office-Stark, not the battle-suit one.
Yes, but then she's stuck with two tokens and can't act on the third turn. Either would work, depending on the situation. I like to keep my options open, but if that 4th attack is going to KO someone, I might take it.
But still, the possibility of acting every turn with no pushing is absolutely fantastic on a 57 point piece with a 4 damage potential. Or (for clicks 2 and 4) a running shot ranged attack, outwit, Power Action free attack on someone who now lacks damage reducers.
Any way you slice it, she rocks.
True, in the long run she still ends up being able to take the same number of actions either way. Probably, better to use the option that gives her the ability to react to the enemy every turn.
RSIxidor
06/01/2011, 11:43
This young lady is going to LOVE having some Leadership around.
There's nothing in Modern Age, but in GA we have several options to provide both the MC and the Leadership. FF Professor X probably works best for that, since he has Willpower on a lot of his dial.
It's possible Red Skull in the set will have Leadership, and that could work quite well, too.
If you are getting you're Leadership rolls, are adjacent to remove tokens, and you have someone to take the action tokens, you could potentially deal 8 damage through her almost every turn of the game, not just four actions over two turns, but possibly four actions every turn, if you alternate who receives the token.
I can't help but hear THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCshOUOt1uY) song when I see or hear anything about this character! ENJOY!
origamiman
06/01/2011, 11:59
Her new best friend......EDWARD NIGMA.
Why not keep her at 1 token after her second attack to allow a free attack again on turns two and three?! By the way, Nigma's also providing enhancement over those 6 attacks.
30 damage over three turns with Nigma.
Cap Cheesesteak
06/01/2011, 11:59
I think it is a major error on WK's part to have a digital image of what the figure should look like on the card and not have at least a close approximation of it as the figure. The paint job reminds me of Critical Mass.
Love the dial and the trait. I'm glad it doesn't specify which set Red Skull and Crossbones has to be from.
Agreed. How come they can't paint any figures as well as they did in the FF set so many years ago?
There's nothing in Modern Age, but in GA we have several options to provide both the MC and the Leadership.
It's possible Red Skull in the set will have Leadership, and that could work quite well, too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a Crossbones remake in this set either (although the old one still holds up pretty well.)
Yeah, with leadership... pretty good! :)
I'm betting on maria Hill for next preview as well.
ZOMG...
A USE FOR ROOKIE INFINITY CHALLENGE PUPPETMASTER!!!!
I never thought I'd see the day.
DOOMSTRIKER
06/01/2011, 12:05
man, the previews for this set so far are doing nothing to increase my interest in the set... a SR that i hate, a non-cap Steve, insanely generic adaptoids, and now a Rare i couldnt care less about. they need to preview something with a little substance:ermm:
and im still sick of the digital sculpting garbage, take the #### picture off the cards! we all know none of the figures are ever gonna look anywhere near that good, so stop making yourselves feel better about releasing garbage by having a pretty picture on the card to look at and say "everyone knows this is what its supposed to look like, that should be good enough"
bad show....
(And perhaps more to the point with a low cost mind controller like, say, the highly disposable BatB Bruce Wayne you can dish out 16 points of damage in two turns and weighs in at under 100 points. Or you could use Empath to get a competent 2nd attacker who eventually pushes into perplex and dual target incapacitate.)
Oooooh, and also you can attack with her after taxiing, unless I'm quite mistaken.
AND she's another piece where LOF isn't required to activate her, only that the compeller is within 8 squares!
[...]and now a Rare i couldnt care less about.[...]
Chin up, she's only uncommon! ;)
fearofanubis
06/01/2011, 12:12
man, the previews for this set so far are doing nothing to increase my interest in the set... a SR that i hate, a non-cap Steve, insanely generic adaptoids, and now a Rare i couldnt care less about. they need to preview something with a little substance:ermm:
and im still sick of the digital sculpting garbage, take the #### picture off the cards! we all know none of the figures are ever gonna look anywhere near that good, so stop making yourselves feel better about releasing garbage by having a pretty picture on the card to look at and say "everyone knows this is what its supposed to look like, that should be good enough"
bad show....
If they stop the digital sculpts it won't translate well to the Heroclix online. Also digital sculpts equal faster and easier production. I know they don't look as good in hand, but it probablly helps keeps the price cheap. I would rather keep it affordable rather than say like warhammer. Great sculpts, but expensive to play.
Dragon_Rose
06/01/2011, 12:14
I love her! I wish she had the teen keyword. She can do a massive amount of damage in just 2 turns(16 points). That is just squeee!:cool:
rorschachparadox
06/01/2011, 12:18
and nevermind been covered already, and better.
Previously Banned
06/01/2011, 12:24
It's a shame she was designed before her redesign into The Red Skulll in the comics.
Maybe the reason her face is so off is because there's also a LE of her as the Red Skull.
Previously Banned
06/01/2011, 12:28
Right and wrong, it seems. The 12 is correct, with 3 potential RCE attacks in 2 turns, but your "how" is slightly off. The trait has a "once per turn" clause, so both RS and CB couldn't take a power action for her. But nothing is stopping her from taking her own action after taking one from them, and the Willpower protects her from pushing.
Actually, she could produce 16 clicks in 2 turns:
Turn 1: She makes an attack. After the attack resolves and she has a token, her trait gets activated with a power action.
Turn 2: Her trait is activated with a power action, and then she pushes for a fourth attack.
Assuming there is some leadership in your team, and she gets even nastier.
DOOMSTRIKER
06/01/2011, 12:29
If they stop the digital sculpts it won't translate well to the Heroclix online. Also digital sculpts equal faster and easier production. I know they don't look as good in hand, but it probablly helps keeps the price cheap. I would rather keep it affordable rather than say like warhammer. Great sculpts, but expensive to play.
screw HC Online its a terrible idea IMO, and should have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of sculpts in REAL HeroClix. i just dont accept your argument, Warhammer and 40K are not the end all be all of sculpting (far from it) and the price of that game doesnt have much of anything to do with sculpt quality (only in game power of the piece) the incredible WH and 40K stuff you see is mostly the work of some of the worlds BEST miniature painters, and when i look at certain HC figs (like Maximus the Mad for example) i see something amazing, even better than the much vaunted gamesworkshop games (just painted bland).
i want REAL sculpts again
by REAL sculptors
REAL artists need the work.. theres plenty of crap in this digital age that these digital "artists" could be doing
rorschachparadox
06/01/2011, 12:31
Maybe the reason her face is so off is because there's also a LE of her as the Red Skull.
And NOW we're talking! Nice idea, we can only hope...
rorschachparadox
06/01/2011, 12:33
Actually, she could produce 16 clicks in 2 turns:
Turn 1: She makes an attack. After the attack resolves and she has a token, her trait gets activated with a power action.
Turn 2: Her trait is activated with a power action, and then she pushes for a fourth attack.
Assuming there is some leadership in your team, and she gets even nastier.
Darn it, I tried to edit that away :)
Either way, I really like her.
GRENDELX
06/01/2011, 12:35
I really like the idea of phasing her though a wall with the ATA then hitting my opponent with the free action as LOF is not required.
Bat-Phreak
06/01/2011, 12:42
ZOMG...
A USE FOR ROOKIE INFINITY CHALLENGE PUPPETMASTER!!!!
I never thought I'd see the day.
QFT!! Rep!
spike1138
06/01/2011, 12:42
I'd like to play seven of these for a 400-point "Seven Deadly Sins" team. :laugh:
Bat-Phreak
06/01/2011, 12:43
I really like the idea of phasing her though a wall with the ATA then hitting my opponent with the free action as LOF is not required.
Also an awesome idea! Rep to you, as well!
I never heard about the character. The face looks funny. Like the daughter of the Pringles guy. Good combat values, i wish she has the "soldier" keyword.
checkeredman
06/01/2011, 12:50
Meh. Another character I could care less about...
TheRedHood
06/01/2011, 13:03
Sin's dial looks very playable and the possibilities for major annoyances are certainly there. Sin's picture on her character card looks great. Sin's sculpt as previewed looks terrible. Let's hope the actual booster product looks better.
seriously. I almost wish they would use an actual picture of the sculpt. I just keep feeling cheated. The pic looks great and then actual sculpt ends up with the Homer Simpson eyes.
I like the dial and I don't mind the sculpt. It is just the paint job. :confused:
I would love an option where I could buy a complete set of unpainted figures and do the job myself.
Project: J-ko
06/01/2011, 13:22
My only real thought on Sin is, "Thank the Gods she didn't get a Teen keyword."
2 Gun Kid
06/01/2011, 13:30
My only real thought on Sin is, "Thank the Gods she didn't get a Teen keyword."
See but they twist that knife with RUTHLESS TEENAGE ASSASSIN.
Dont lie...a team up between Sin and Anarchy sounds fun.
Anachronic
06/01/2011, 13:36
No love for the character, but that is one extremely playable dial.
I'd rather have had the new version of her, from Fear Itself. Hammer time....stop!
catherine
06/01/2011, 13:57
So she has the Doppleganger power, but better. Trait instead of special power. And a more convenient array of figures to give the power action to. Awesome. With a 4 damage ranged attack, all at only 57 pts. Superb. Looking forward to more Serpent Society.
As for the director, Maria Hill.
voNvinGeLimeR
06/01/2011, 14:13
Let me get this straight...1st action BOOM, next turn (w. 1 token)
power action to Skull, Crossbones or MC'er within 8 BOOM...same turn
free BOOM through Sin...same turn another BOOM with willpower with no penalty?
Potentially, 12 damage on her first 2 turns (not counting criticals or other map effect damage, PLUS whatever the friendly character does on turn 2?
Just sick.
A buddy of mine just found a new staple for his Hydra teams.
Pentarch
06/01/2011, 14:43
Definitely a workable piece, although I'm really hoping the GF version has a wider array of keywords to run her with, as I do like the character.
Beyond that, I am /extremely/ excited for the shot at Mariah Hill.
Also anyone else sort of hopeful for the MODOC generics? I feel that they would serve well for AIM.
Bone Collector
06/01/2011, 14:50
I'm not too familiar with the SHIELD story that came out a year or so ago, but did it not establish that it has been around for a lot longer than since WWII? Could there have been a more contriversial director that was before Nick Fury?
Arsenalroy2k
06/01/2011, 15:06
Awww yeah! Six points of Serpent Society ATA on Sin and she's Phasing!
And I also expect the next preview to be Maria Hill. Only former directors that were more controversial than her were Tony and Norman, who they've both already remade.
elfholme
06/01/2011, 15:18
Let me get this straight...1st action BOOM, next turn (w. 1 token)
power action to Skull, Crossbones or MC'er within 8 BOOM...same turn
free BOOM through Sin...same turn another BOOM with willpower with no penalty?
Potentially, 12 damage on her first 2 turns (not counting criticals or other map effect damage, PLUS whatever the friendly character does on turn 2?
Just sick.
A buddy of mine just found a new staple for his Hydra teams.
Why wait until the next turn? I mean, if you are going to use her like that, why not do the first free attack right after the normal attack in the first turn? It's potentially 16 damage.
Having said that, it doesn't seem that overpowering to me. It's decent while she's in stealth, letting you hide a more valuable piece behind her, but it's probably a wash damage-wise (unless the guy you are handing the extra tokens to is pretty weak, like a really cheap MCer). If you're handing tokens to Red Skull or Crossbones, it doesn't seem like you'll net much more than you would if you were just using them to attack directly (I expect both of them to at least have 4 damage, or 3 damage that can get through reducers).
She's all right. Not as nice for the points as, say, Squirrel Girl, IMO. I'm pretty confident there will be an LE of her as the Red Skull.
elfholme
06/01/2011, 15:24
And I also expect the next preview to be Maria Hill. Only former directors that were more controversial than her were Tony and Norman, who they've both already remade.
Has there been a SHIELD director who WASN'T controversial? I mean seriously, it could be any of them.
Thunderclese
06/01/2011, 15:33
Has there been a SHIELD director who WASN'T controversial? I mean seriously, it could be any of them.
That's a pretty good point, lol
TheGoodReverendJLang
06/01/2011, 15:39
Any character or dial that gives me another reason to use Crossbones is a good character or dial :)
And if you don't like the head, dip it in red paint and take a box knife to it (or vice versa) BAM custom Red Skull
voNvinGeLimeR
06/01/2011, 15:46
Why wait until the next turn? I mean, if you are going to use her like that, why not do the first free attack right after the normal attack in the first turn? It's potentially 16 damage.
Having said that, it doesn't seem that overpowering to me. It's decent while she's in stealth, letting you hide a more valuable piece behind her, but it's probably a wash damage-wise (unless the guy you are handing the extra tokens to is pretty weak, like a really cheap MCer). If you're handing tokens to Red Skull or Crossbones, it doesn't seem like you'll net much more than you would if you were just using them to attack directly (I expect both of them to at least have 4 damage, or 3 damage that can get through reducers).
She's all right. Not as nice for the points as, say, Squirrel Girl, IMO. I'm pretty confident there will be an LE of her as the Red Skull.
That IS another option. Good figure!
Thunderclese
06/01/2011, 15:49
Man I forgot about giving her the Serpent Society ATA! With that trait, that's a good sneaky tactic. It's sort of like Solo's power, except he can only make standard ranged combat attacks, whereas she can be given any action. Craziness!
Arsenalroy2k
06/01/2011, 15:50
Has there been a SHIELD director who WASN'T controversial? I mean seriously, it could be any of them.
But some are more controversial than others. Nick, Tony, Sharon... they've probably all made unpopular decisions while in the role, and Norman was just insane, but Maria was different in that she was an absolute clod. During that time, she was totally ineffective and unliked by readers and characters alike.
fearofanubis
06/01/2011, 15:56
screw HC Online its a terrible idea IMO, and should have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of sculpts in REAL HeroClix. i just dont accept your argument, Warhammer and 40K are not the end all be all of sculpting (far from it) and the price of that game doesnt have much of anything to do with sculpt quality (only in game power of the piece) the incredible WH and 40K stuff you see is mostly the work of some of the worlds BEST miniature painters, and when i look at certain HC figs (like Maximus the Mad for example) i see something amazing, even better than the much vaunted gamesworkshop games (just painted bland).
i want REAL sculpts again
by REAL sculptors
REAL artists need the work.. theres plenty of crap in this digital age that these digital "artists" could be doing
Money will always win out with a company. If you don't like the quality don't buy it. The digital sculpts are easier to use and save time and money.
lensnart
06/01/2011, 15:56
Meh. Another character I could care less about...
I'm with you, I could care a lot less, because right now I care a lot about getting this character.
Awesome dial, cool story, totally new character to the game, what's not to care about.
Yep just like you the only way my caring meter could go is less, because it is on full right now.
mkweaver
06/01/2011, 16:31
Interesting dial , and for the most part I like the sculpt, except for the head...
I don't follow the storyline - is her head post-disfigurement, from what the background talks about? From the (much better) image on the card, I wouldn't think so...
where'd all the details from the digital sculpt go? Oh yeah...behind the paint
KO Bossy
06/01/2011, 17:02
Sin is wicked! 2 RCE with Stealth, good attack, nice defense with Willpower, and she's consistent. On top of all that, she's 57 points! Very nice indeed. I can see myself getting a good amount of use out of her on Skeleton Crew and Serpent Society teams. Speaking of which, we once again see the reemergence of the Skeleton Crew keyword! Crossbones and E Jack O'Lantern have a new friend!
I admit it, the paint job on her face needs work, but that's a relatively minor flaw. The dial itself is awesome.
BoondockSaint1
06/01/2011, 18:20
If she looks like that out of the booster, I will have to perform some cosmetic surgery. :p
She does look a little like Paris Hilton in Repo! but with red hair. Now we just need a Graverobber to get her a little Zydrate...
But some are more controversial than others. Nick, Tony, Sharon... they've probably all made unpopular decisions while in the role, and Norman was just insane, but Maria was different in that she was an absolute clod. During that time, she was totally ineffective and unliked by readers and characters alike.
Read Secret War. What Nick has done trumps everyone.
UltraDRGN
06/01/2011, 18:56
Buwaaaahahahaha.
Angry Eyebrows!
elfholme
06/01/2011, 19:01
Read Secret War. What Nick has done trumps everyone.
Exactly what I was thinking when people were mentioning these other SHIELD leaders. Secret War definitely puts Nick solidly in the running for "most controversial SHIELD leader", but man, they're ALL controversial.
tyroclix
06/01/2011, 19:33
Let me get this straight...1st action BOOM, next turn (w. 1 token)
power action to Skull, Crossbones or MC'er within 8 BOOM...same turn
free BOOM through Sin...same turn another BOOM with willpower with no penalty?
Potentially, 12 damage on her first 2 turns (not counting criticals or other map effect damage, PLUS whatever the friendly character does on turn 2?
Just sick.
A buddy of mine just found a new staple for his Hydra teams.
I get that 12 damage is a lot. Remember the cost of the combo - something like 100+ points.
With a 10 attack.
And a 6 range.
I'm not thinking it's any more amazing than CT U Spiral by herself or even Spiderman and 3 Perplexes / ICwO.
Seems like the fans are a little happy. That's good. I never heard of her so have no real attachment to the character. She seems fairly fragile with outwit when she had CR and RS. Bullseyes don't come any bigger.
Munchoboy
06/01/2011, 19:34
Exactly what I was thinking when people were mentioning these other SHIELD leaders. Secret War definitely puts Nick solidly in the running for "most controversial SHIELD leader", but man, they're ALL controversial.
Sooooo....what?
Not a good hint you're saying then? ;) :p
Contingency Plan
06/01/2011, 20:49
Squirrel Girl and Sin in the same set!!! Plus Black Widow, Bucky Cap, Modok, etc... Could be in running of favorite character set list for me. Now if all the dials turn out as well as GSX, could be my favorite set of all time.
Citizen Kabuto
06/01/2011, 21:29
Very nice figure - I'll play her. I can't help but wish it were a Rookie, in the evil nun get-up with the crazy set of psychic powers. What's not to love about a phasing, psychic blasting, flying nun?
airdomin8
06/01/2011, 21:35
The figure on the character card looks pretty good, but the figure has a face straight from Unleashed / Mutant Mayhem.
Whassup with that?!?
RSIxidor
06/01/2011, 22:52
Some people have made a good point: That you're sort of wasting your other characters if you use her power to give them tokens. It really depends on who you're giving tokens to. If they have Willpower themselves, or their primary purpose is PC or Perplex or Outwit, then you haven't lost much, at least not necessarily.
I think the main point is, she gives you options when you might not have any. Say Red Skull is stuck with some tie-up piece that he's unlikely to get rid of, and the clock is ticking. Sin took care of an attacker on a previous turn and just cleared, and you have enough time for two turns and need to deal 16 damage somehow. If Red Skull has no action tokens, then you have a way to do it. And for 57 points, using her normally, she really ain't that bad, either.
invisibo
06/01/2011, 23:39
Serpent Society?
Let the Modern Age phasing/teleport wildcard abuse commence!
rwint1968
06/02/2011, 00:03
Nice!
:cool:
Milo Garret
06/02/2011, 01:03
I wish all clix heads were as detailed as the new Kilowog's.
Soferiel
06/02/2011, 01:27
I really would hope to have a little bit stronger dial for Red Skull's baby!!! Anyway, it still a good Dial!!!
falldowndrunk
06/02/2011, 01:57
I can't quit laughing at the face, it looks like a heroclix sculpt if they were designed by Robot Chicken or something!
Arsenalroy2k
06/02/2011, 02:37
Read Secret War. What Nick has done trumps everyone.
I have read it. It was underhanded and a failure. Yet despite that, his track record still speaks for itself, plus people still at least respected/feared him. One bad move does not make him the most controversial Director of SHIELD.
Maria's time in charge was a cluster#### and no one treated/regarded her with anything but scorn and derision. So the fact that the head of one of the biggest spy/military agencies was given about as much credibility as a Kardashian sister (and got just about as much accomplished) makes her far more controversial than Nick.
Daveogara
06/02/2011, 03:48
It's Archie Andrews in drag.
Did someone see that the card states thst Sin is an uncommon but on the picture it is white, meaning a common?
Quebbster
06/02/2011, 08:47
Did someone see that the card states thst Sin is an uncommon but on the picture it is white, meaning a common?
The tampo tab is green though. It's almost as if the picture is of another version of Sin...
She is even better then you think, She attacks every turn... alternating twice then once per turn-
Turn 1: Token to RCE for 4. Trait for 4. 8 Damage.
Turn 2: Trait for 4. Sweep. 12 Possible Damage.
Turn 3: Token to RCE for 4. Trait for 4. 20 Possible Damage.
Turn 4: Trait for 4. Sweep. 24 Possible Damage.
Turn 5: Token to RCE for 4. Trait for 4. 32 Damage.
Turn 6: Trait for 4. Sweep. 36 Damage.
....All while keeping her second token off so Protected stays live.
Elite Sniper for the win.
All time great fig= probable design mistake that will be regretted... while we cackle with glee and destroy our opponents.
konasavage
06/02/2011, 09:24
For the love of Pete, stop showing the digital version on the card. It makes me weep when I see the sculpts right next to it and the clown face paint jobs they have.
maddragon13
06/02/2011, 09:39
For the love of Pete, stop showing the digital version on the card. It makes me weep when I see the sculpts right next to it and the clown face paint jobs they have.
Agreed my friend. Stop with the digital pic WK.
As for Sin herself, she's decent for the points. Not sure if she'll be as good as some people think, but I guess I'll find that out after I play her.
Thrumble Funk
06/02/2011, 09:41
Not a bad piece for under 60 points!
Quebbster
06/02/2011, 09:45
Sin might give me a reason to actually play LE Bruce Wayne, AKA "the cheapest Mind Control piece in Modern Age".
DOOMSTRIKER
06/02/2011, 12:13
For the love of Pete, stop showing the digital version on the card. It makes me weep when I see the sculpts right next to it and the clown face paint jobs they have.
only problem is, it isnt just the paint (much like the detail-less face of Sabertooth from GSX) digital sculpting always makes for soft, rounded edges instead of sharp definite lines, making almost all miniature figures produced in such a way seem un-detailed and cheap looking (dont care why, i just hate it) so you "sand down" a good amount of detail out of the fig and then cover it in a thick, bad paint job, and you get all these wonderful digital sculpts that we've been cursed with lately :noid:
i still say, Hire Some Real Artists again (the game makes tons of money at the moment, and they could afford it easily)
who is the one time controversial director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ?
I'm guessing Maria Hill.
invisibo
06/02/2011, 16:08
wait a second...
That Bruce Wayne LE might be playable after all!
TerminusV2.0
06/03/2011, 14:11
I think it is a major error on WK's part to have a digital image of what the figure should look like on the card and not have at least a close approximation of it as the figure. The paint job reminds me of Critical Mass.
Boy you aren't kidding. These faces for the cap set are just FUGLY. Embarrassingly bad...
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