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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/80851/HCRealms.com/201106/ff_watchmen.jpgOn September 7th WizKids will release the Watchmen Crimebusters Fast Forces 6-Pack (MSRP $14.99), a box set that includes six HeroClix figures, two all new 2-foot by 3-foot maps, dice, and a rule sheet. The HeroClix Fast Forces are pre-built HeroClix “teams designed by WizKids R&D. The figures have been selected and redesigned from the ground up to work well together. The maps included with the Watchmen Crimebusters Fast Forces set include “Karnak” and “Dr. Manhattan’s Lab.” ...
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Herrbrane
06/02/2011, 23:06
this looks like fun because i was too cheap to get the 100 thing
Herrbrane
06/02/2011, 23:09
also can anyone believe that there are 3 roarsachs 3 night owls 3 Dr. Manhattens and 3 comedians (non duos and collassals) in mondern age
konasavage
06/02/2011, 23:16
Way more appealing than the giant collector set.
Shoggoth
06/02/2011, 23:20
Does anybody know if these figures will have new dials?
thank you so much for posting this i was going to buy the big thing in like 2 days you saved me so much money
Melkor503
06/02/2011, 23:23
Did anyone else notice the suggested age of 17+??? Does it come with the graphic novel to get that rating?
STUimus Prime
06/02/2011, 23:24
Wow! Awesome. I have the collector set, but Im still gonna have to get this. Cant wait to see the dials.
Sooo much product coming out this summer. Whats next?
Firelord Hero
06/02/2011, 23:25
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys....
The article said they have been designed from the ground up to work together so I would assume that means that they are going to have new dials. I'm looking forward some incarnation of these characters to my collection because I don't want to drop $85.00 for the collector's set.
NickCarraway
06/02/2011, 23:35
Did anyone else notice the suggested age of 17+??? Does it come with the graphic novel to get that rating?
Maybe the Zenhattan shown is for display purposes and the released version is ...commando?
Deathblossom
06/02/2011, 23:38
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys....
How does this even remotely effect you, or the game, negatively?
fearofanubis
06/02/2011, 23:39
Did anyone else notice the suggested age of 17+??? Does it come with the graphic novel to get that rating?
It's because when I finally turned 18 I stopped putting the small plastic pieces in my mouth and choking on it. I am the reason for tops collapsing. My parents went sue happy for my need to choke on tiny plastic figures.
Dragon_Rose
06/02/2011, 23:41
I like that they are finally going to include a rules sheet.:noid:
benjaminJp
06/02/2011, 23:45
at least I'll be able to have a few watchmen now.
(100$ was too steep for me)
are the dials new or old?
I'm hoping for new dials, maybe a realy cheap (30 points caugh...caugh..) detective like rorsharch... outwit into perplex? that'd be nice. :)
combatninja
06/03/2011, 00:00
So we got enough Silk Spectres to pack into fast forces packs, but not enough to replace the one from the $100 set that I bought?
WTF Wizkids?
Munchoboy
06/03/2011, 00:07
So we got enough Silk Spectres to pack into fast forces packs, but not enough to replace the one from the $100 set that I bought?
WTF Wizkids?
Justin and I have been poking this particular bear of late. Expect to hear something in the near-future.
Yes, really. ;)
And before folk start bringing "soon" into this, please note that this has not been the easiest process to put into place. I won't get into details at this time, but we will explain what's been going on and why this has been challenging to implement.
Just be patient a little longer is all I ask. All will be well.
are the dials new or old?
They are new dials. Expect an article/preview/something (dare I say it?) soon. :noid: ;) :classic:
Kwagamon
06/03/2011, 00:12
I still think the collector's set was worth it, if for no other reason than the box is purty.
Munchoboy
06/03/2011, 00:14
I still think the collector's set was worth it, if for no other reason than the box is purty.
Agreed.
Despite the protests and detractors, I like the collectors case and I like how it looks on my "clix shelf".
That said, as a Watchmen fan I am very pleased to have more versions of these characters to build teams with.
combatninja
06/03/2011, 00:16
Justin and I have been poking this particular bear of late. Expect to hear something in the near-future.
Yes, really. ;)I'm looking forward to it. Really, I want to change my damn signature. :cheeky:
A Watchmen
06/03/2011, 00:21
Very happy to hear that more Watchmen are on the way, even if they are the same figures but with different dials. I thought the only thing lacking from the collector's set were maps and dice. This will be a good deal for everyone.
All new dials. I approve of this.
DC equivelent of 'nuff said?
I like this for me....
I passed on the privey collector set with too many dupes and double base figs that dont appeal to me.
But this....
Good Price Point
1-of each fig
the core figs
Rules
and MAPS
I, for one, am all about the Fast Forces. Blister packaging and MAPS, could not think of anything better. I would LOVE more unique sculpts, but if re-using sculpts is the only cost-effective way to put this out then I'm on board all the way.
There isn't a single reason why more of these shouldn't be made.
krusticlese
06/03/2011, 00:49
Justin and I have been poking this particular bear of late. Expect to hear something in the near-future.
Yes, really. ;)
And before folk start bringing "soon" into this, please note that this has not been the easiest process to put into place. I won't get into details at this time, but we will explain what's been going on and why this has been challenging to implement.
Just be patient a little longer is all I ask. All will be well.
They are new dials. Expect an article/preview/something (dare I say it?) soon. :noid: ;) :classic:
As long as the announcement has a clever title like "A Rose by any other name..." Followed by an announcement that you've brought Rose from the old warehouse back to manage the program. :)
To the others asking about new dials:
"The figures have been selected and redesigned from the ground up to work well together. "
There's your answer. New dials. Huzzah! :classic:
Also: A big props for not throwing any 'generic' top knots into the pack to target and gouge the pockets of folks who like running swarm generic teams *cough* Guardian of the Universe*Cough*
krusticlese
06/03/2011, 00:51
I'm looking forward to it. Really, I want to change my damn signature. :cheeky:
Hey, it only took them *just under* a year to get my venue's info added to their website. They certainly are not efficient, but eventually things do kinda come together. Sorta. Some times.
manofwisdom167
06/03/2011, 00:53
Does anybody know if these figures will have new dials?Yes, they will all have new dials.
SevenFeathers
06/03/2011, 00:56
i am happy for more Watchmen, i am currently saving pennys to get the new Colossal Dr. Manhattan. super excited that we are getting two more Watchmen Maps also!!! i am a super Map Junkie, Kinko's also loves as they get 20 bucks in their pocket every map i get lol
charlesdward
06/03/2011, 01:01
I still think the collector's set was worth it, if for no other reason than the box is purty.
I waited to pick it up for $40, simply because the box and half of the figures were of no interest for me. The ones I wanted just went straight into the tackle trays with the rest of my figures.
Now I have this damn box taking up space I don't have while I wait to amass enough references to put up a sale thread. :)
As far as this new release, I'm really hoping for a 200-point Zenhattan to be able to use by himself... I love my OMA's!
vlad3theimpaler
06/03/2011, 01:19
blah blah blah...
All will be well.
I've long suspected that Munchoboy was a blue lantern, and I know I have the evidence to prove it.
PlotDeviceLad
06/03/2011, 01:58
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=319618
This fast forces pack was discussed earlier in the day in this thread that got moved to rumors & speculation, though it was neither when the ivc2 article was posted.
Pepsirox08
06/03/2011, 01:58
Was hoping for another Giant Manhattan, but this will do...
When the 25 piece set released, I won it at a tourney for free, traded away most of it, kept everything Manhattan and everything Ozy.. So I won 25 figs and kept 6... but I kept the best 6! Looks like I need to pick this up just for another Ozy and Manhattan! Dunno why, but I love these 2 characters!
Myrik_Justiciar
06/03/2011, 02:11
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys....
Actually I think the opposite. Doing one run and done of sets to drive up ebay prices doesn't profit them, only the vultures.
Besides, they have new dials anyways.
Pepsirox08
06/03/2011, 02:13
Actually I think the opposite. Doing one run and done of sets to drive up ebay prices doesn't profit them, only the vulchers.
Besides, they have new dials anyways.
Vultures... but continue...
Myrik_Justiciar
06/03/2011, 02:17
Vultures... but continue...
sorry, my bad :(
Mr Hobbs
06/03/2011, 02:18
I'm pissed, I just went halfsies on the big set. -,-
Also: A big props for not throwing any 'generic' top knots into the pack to target and gouge the pockets of folks who like running swarm generic teams *cough* Guardian of the Universe*Cough*
I would have honestly prefered if they did since it would be another chance getting some Knot Tops/Top Knots generics for my street crime teams and I don't think we will get another chance of them soon since we don't get a watchmen gravity feed
that said: This is an awesome announcement
new maps!!!
another shot at the Watchmen/crimebusters (are they allowed to call them crimebusters now??)!!
I love it!!!
HunterSkunter
06/03/2011, 03:43
...and a rule sheet.]
Best news I've heard all week.
And I am still happy I got the big set, I actually enjoy the duos, Alter Ego Walter Kovacs, the multiple Manhattans and figures like Mask Killer.
T. Paul Stiles
06/03/2011, 03:47
I brought the big boxed set but never really used it because it was near impossible to runa Watchmen team with a set points value. My friend was over and looking at it enviously so I ended up giving it to him for his birthday.
The idea of a set that is made to play as a certain point value is more appealing to me.
Comes with map: nice.. Comes with dice: yay! Comes with a rule sheet: Thank the powers that be!!!
dantheman5999
06/03/2011, 04:23
Now I don't have to spend 100$ on the collector set awesome!!!!
Surfer13
06/03/2011, 05:56
They had mantioned this as a possibility before there was even such a thing as Fast Forces packs.
Glad to see it coming out, and glad to see that they stuck to the main characters.
Superclone
06/03/2011, 06:00
That's totally great. I'm loving this new distribution model. I had little interest in having $100 worth of clix most of whom I would never play. But buying these 6, plus a Map? Yeah I am totally game for that.
Superclone
06/03/2011, 06:06
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys....
Just because something doesn't benefit you doesn't mean it is a bad idea. These aren't reprints - they are different figures - so your collectible aspect of the game remains. It's just that now, more people are happy, not just you.
I didn't miss the Watchman, I just chose not to buy it. Now, I will buy it. That means they get $15 of money to buy product that cost them very little to develop and change. If there are more like me, and judging by the thread, there are, then that is good business.
Keep the Fast Forces coming. I love small sets that have teams ready to play out of the box.
K'un L'un Kid
06/03/2011, 07:13
Collectible or not, I'm really starting to like these Fast Forces packs. I've been clixing on the narrowest and most insubstantial of shoestrings for the last five years (marriage and un-marriage will do that to a guy), picking up the odd booster, rummaging through collections of singles at the few nearby hobby/gaming stores in the area, and trying to trade my old junk for someone's slightly-less-old junk. I spent $30 on Gravity Feed GLs the other week and felt absolutely decadent doing so. I'm sure with the economy as it is, I'm not the only gamer who has had to seriously scale back (or eliminate) their hobbies for the sake of making rent, putting gas in the car, and/or keeping food on the table.
On that shoestring, I couldn't justify plunking down $100 on the (admittedly very nice-looking) collector's set. 20 of the 26 I wouldn't feel compelled to use. I'm not a big fan of duos, rarely use giants or alter egos, and most of the rest of the characters (the Minutemen, the Knot Tops, Big Figure, Moloch, etc.) would rarely see any play from me and would sit in their sweet-looking collector's case collecting dust. At the end of the day, I'd really only feel compelled to play Nite Owl, Rorschach, Silk Spectre, normal-sized Dr. Manhattan, and Ozymandias.
$15 on six characters I'd play vs. $100 on six characters I'd play and twenty I wouldn't. Seems like easy math to me. Maps, dice, and instructions are gravy. The GL Fast Forces previews prove that these packs will most likely contain some pretty playable figures (and has me hopeful that the Warriors Three and Loki in FF: Thor won't be horrible).
WK is in business (as most businesses are) to make money. I think it's shrewd marketing to try and package product to the budget-conscious clixer.
michiganj24
06/03/2011, 07:24
Glad to see this...although quite surprised they did not time this to come out at the same time as the retail Colossal Manhattan
Swarmer80
06/03/2011, 08:00
&%@^&ing excited. Just hope the stats are good.
flakbait
06/03/2011, 08:15
Awesome. I couldn't afford to get the whole set. I didn't think I'd ever get any of them.
krizzegg
06/03/2011, 08:19
ages 17 plus? awesome.
Also: A big props for not throwing any 'generic' top knots into the pack to target and gouge the pockets of folks who like running swarm generic teams *cough* Guardian of the Universe*Cough* yeah but how about a second pack with three of them in it. :grin: and a couple of the other clix and maybe, MAYBE, a new fig or two we haven't seen. I'd like to see more Fast Forces done with figures we haven't seen yet. like the Brightest Day and Darkest Night sets.
drcreaux
06/03/2011, 09:00
Did anyone else notice the suggested age of 17+??? Does it come with the graphic novel to get that rating?
Five words: "Special object - Dr. Manhattan's Wang."
Dr. Creaux
The_Sound_Of_Animals
06/03/2011, 09:00
I want one
how about Heroclix Chase Fast Forces???? :rolleyes: :laugh:
Wolfeyes
06/03/2011, 09:18
this is pretty frick'n sweet, I honestly still kinda wanted the over-priced collector's set just to have a Watchmen team to play. the ridiculous asking price in addition to mediocre (putting it kindly) dials really put off the thing.
hopefully these Fast Forces version of the team will be playable... maybe even competitive
anonym0use
06/03/2011, 09:22
Great idea IMO. I didn't get a Watchmen boxed set, but I might... just might be tempted to try this out.
Maybe.
anonym0use
06/03/2011, 09:23
how about Heroclix Chase Fast Forces???? :rolleyes: :laugh:
I fully expect a Pet Avengers fast forces... reprint Lockjaw, Frog of Thunder, Lockheed.
I might pick this up. Totally depends on the dials...even the maps I can skip because I know somebody who will get this regardless of anything.
Jarimy123
06/03/2011, 09:30
I already said yesterday I'll get it just for the 2 sided map, the figs are a bonus. Hope the Manhatten is like 180 points or so.
Starman2003
06/03/2011, 09:34
Count me in! I, too, was one of the ones not wanting to shell out $85 on the whole set, just so I could get these part. characters as figs. $14.99 is much more wallet-friendly. Can't wait! House games will be soo much more interesting now. :)
Nice. This is all I wanted. I didnt care to buy that big thing, I just wanted the main storyline peeps.
Thrumble Funk
06/03/2011, 09:44
I'm in. Have the CS, but am jazzed for new maps and new dials/point values.
Literally nothing to complain about regarding this. At all.
YOU: "But what about..."
NO. You're WRONG.
red king
06/03/2011, 10:03
Must Have!
ArmlessTigerMan
06/03/2011, 10:44
This will destroy herosclix
Judge Madrox
06/03/2011, 10:58
I'll end up getting this, but I'm glad I got the collectors set though. I really like using Big Figure along with Larry and Mike. It also didn't hurt that I lucked into a really cheap one.
AAAAARRGH!!!!!! Kurse you NECA.
red king
06/03/2011, 11:12
I got the collectors set cheap as well. But I'll still pick this up for the maps and new dials. And yes, Big Figure has helped me win far too many times.
ArakisLSN
06/03/2011, 12:35
Wow. Great product!
I picked up the CS and loved it. But I always love new dials and maps.
The talk in the thread about top-knots made me wonder if they might do a "thugs" fast forces pack with some low level street punks.
On the minus side I'm going to need a second job to pay for all of this clix based goodness. (I'm starting to think having an affair might be a cheaper hobby :laugh:)
Phyl.
comi-man
06/03/2011, 13:19
Super excited about more wacthmen, anything they put out I am gonna buy. Now if only we can get Nite owl I. Also I think the large watchmen collector set was also 17+ so must just be anything that touches watchmen corrupts the youth.
jtjgundam
06/03/2011, 13:23
:looks at OPs avatar:
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I bought the actual set that had no maps, no dice, just for these six characters. So obligatory RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.
scotimus
06/03/2011, 15:58
I'd rather have a fast pack for X-men: First Class.
Ted_Kord
06/03/2011, 16:23
Looks pretty cool, and I was a tad underwhelmed with some of the collector's set dials so I may pick this up. Watchmen maps will be welcome, too. Bit of a missed opportunity for sculpts, though - I wish they had broken up some of the duos for variety, which were more dynamic in many cases.
I would have liked:
Nite Owl & Comedian from that duo figure, but split up
Rorschach from the Nite Owl/Rorschach duo
Dr. Manhattan from the Dr. Manhattan/Silk Spectre duo
You don't really get many other options for Ozy, and the individually based Silk Spectre is much better than the Dr. Manhatta/Silk Spectre version of her.
vlad3theimpaler
06/03/2011, 16:29
I'd rather have a fast pack for X-men: First Class.
Is there some reason the two are mutually exclusive?
A Watchmen
06/03/2011, 17:51
I'm hoping they make Ozymandias a little better than the previous one, not nearly as good as what I expected him to be.
See, this I will buy. Note to WizKids: Fast Forces packs are way more consumer friendly than bloated 'collectors sets'. Even if you brought out a FF pack for every new set I'd still buy them if they had new dials.
Too bad they didn't use the sculpts of the figures that were on the Duos
Silk Spectre/Dr. Manhattan
Comedian/Night Owl
Rorschach/Night Owl
So, two choices for the Night Owl, I'm partial to the on one the same dial as Rorschach.
MopedKid86
06/03/2011, 23:09
Since I've been bent on getting Rorschach but didn't wanna shell out 20$ for him, I'm rather hoping they're the same. Though as long as a dial's accurate, I suppose there's nothing wrong with new ones...
Good work WK!
charlesdward
06/03/2011, 23:31
I brought the big boxed set but never really used it because it was near impossible to runa Watchmen team with a set points value. My friend was over and looking at it enviously so I ended up giving it to him for his birthday.
The idea of a set that is made to play as a certain point value is more appealing to me.
Did you even try?
002 Silk Spectre
003 Nite Owl
= 99 points
003 Nite Owl
001 Rorschach
006 The Comedian (or 004 Ozymandias)
= 193 points
003 Nite Owl
013 Walter Kovacs
011 Dr. Manhattan
= 196 points
001 Rorschach
003 Nite Owl
006 The Comedian (or 004 Ozymandias)
011 Dr. Manhattan
= 298 points
005 Dr. Manhattan
006 The Comedian (or 004 Ozymandias)
013 Walter Kovacs
= 397 points
001 Rorschach
002 Silk Spectre
005 Dr. Manhattan
021 The Comedian and Nite Owl
= 495 points
And the easiest one of all to throw together:
001 Rorschach
002 Silk Spectre
003 Nite Owl
004 Ozymandias
005 Dr. Manhattan
006 The Comedian
= 598 points
There are even one or two more configurations... but you can very easily build anything from 100 to 600 points with these figures.
Just saying. :)
BoondockSaint1
06/04/2011, 01:26
yeah but how about a second pack with three of them in it. :grin: and a couple of the other clix and maybe, MAYBE, a new fig or two we haven't seen. I'd like to see more Fast Forces done with figures we haven't seen yet. like the Brightest Day and Darkest Night sets.
Maybe we can get a Sandman FF pack. I soooo want a Death Figure. Still waiting to build a goth hotties team.
airdomin8
06/04/2011, 01:37
This is a real slap in the face for those of us who paid good $$ for the Watchmen collectors set...
Get the core Watchmen figures plus new map for less than $25, or pay +$75 for the core figs plus a bunch of non-usable bung?
Aaaauuuurrrrggghhhhh!!!
charlesdward
06/04/2011, 01:40
This is a real slap in the face for those of us who paid good $$ for the Watchmen collectors set...
Get the core Watchmen figures plus new map for less than $25, or pay +$75 for the core figs plus a bunch of non-usable bung?
Aaaauuuurrrrggghhhhh!!!
That's why I didn't pay full MSRP. I waited until it was discounted to less than half price. Otherwise, I just wouldn't have bought it at all, as it just wasn't worth that price to me.
So really, the only one who slapped you was you.
Stop hitting yourself
Stop hitting yourself
Stop hitting yourself
My apologies if that sounded troll-ish... but that was too good to pass up. :grin:
This is a real slap in the face for those of us who paid good $$ for the Watchmen collectors set...
Get the core Watchmen figures plus new map for less than $25, or pay +$75 for the core figs plus a bunch of non-usable bung?
Aaaauuuurrrrggghhhhh!!!
Speak for yourself.
First: I bought the Big Box when it came out for the whole 100 and I don:t feel slapped. New dials = new figures.
Second: also there were more good figures in the set than the 6 we get in the FF-Pack.
Third: also ziran said from the start that they would probably rerelease some watchmen figures in another form so if someone who bought the big box is really peeved about it he didn't inform himself before
As someone said in the Thread earlier there is no downside with this FF-Pack
Another Thing for the guys talking about new figures in FF-Packs like in BD or BN: For Now the Fast Forces Pack is the love child of Classic Packs and Action Packs.
Ziran said that we won't see that many action packs in the future because they were not profitable for wk. Since the only difference between FF-Packs and Action-Packs is that Action Packs had new Figures I think that the developement of new sculpts is the cost factor here. So it is not impossible but very unlikely we will have figures in future fast forces (future fast forces figures - say that 10 times fast) packs which are no reprints of old figures
omegarobb
06/04/2011, 09:08
Comes with map: nice.. Comes with dice: yay! Comes with a rule sheet: Thank the powers that be!!!
I do not and will never like the watchmen; However I will get this pack for the map.
webhead76
06/04/2011, 11:53
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys....
Do you really have to use his name as a swear word, I'm sure there are plenty of other words that could be used in lieu of this. Before anyone lectures me on freedom of speech, I know all about it, I just think it would be respectful of some peoples belief (like me). Thanks.
As for reprinting things, perhaps they are doing it for new players who weren't around when the original Watchmen set came out. On the other hand, as long as they try creating new dials instead of rehashing the old ones, perhaps it would feel less gimmicky. I have to say though, the sculpts look really cool!
flakbait
06/04/2011, 13:51
I feel bad for you guys who bought the original set, what with the WizKids Police coming to bust in and take your figures from you and all that.
Ted_Kord
06/04/2011, 14:01
I'm all in favor of making figures more afford-ably available to most people at some later date, so I guess even if the dials were exactly the same I'd be in favor of this set (I paid near MSRP for the collector's set).
However, it seems to be the case with the FF sets that the dials are not the same, so with that in mind those who bought the collector's set still have something unique to that set. It also gives those of us with the collector's set a reason to buy the FF set - I wouldn't buy it if all 6 dials were reprints.
I guess a decent comparison might be to say that if I had the Origin chase Alfred, I wouldn't be upset about the Alpha version being released because it's a different figure altogether. Sure, same character and same sculpt, but he plays differently.
mikeholla
06/05/2011, 02:26
I bought the CS and I am excited to see these redialed plus the maps. This will add some team building flexibility which I look forward to. Nice job Wizkids!
Fantastic! Super excited! I've already got all these guys, but I always like to have multiple options for powers/points cost for one character if I'm trying to fit them on a team.
willkill4clix
06/06/2011, 23:27
Jesus christ. It's like gimmick heaven for everyone. This is getting to be overdone. We dont need this many fast forces and this many versions of all the characters.
I am beggining to feel that WK is catering to the cry-baby group of clixers. If you missed something...oh well. No need to keep reprinting it. This is still a collectible game guys.... i totally agree. it's like they're shooting a machine gun at the market hoping they'll hit something.
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