Set Wars: Unleashed vs. Ultimates

[flyingicarus]

Hi there. Once again Gargantua and I take on a big ol' project. With the 10 Heroclix anniversary coming up in 2012, we're doing a set retrospective taking us from Infinity Challenge all the way to, well whatever set is out by the time we get to that.

The idea is simple. We each get a set, round 1 is in chronological order, I get the first set; Gargantua the second and they face off. Next game has Gargantua getting the next set in line vs. my getting the one after and so on. We each get 1000 points in characters. Each character can have one feat and that feat can only be used once per set.

Once all of the winning sets are determined we'll have a round two. Round two will likely involve some tweaking, and probably no longer go chronologically. Additionally older figures may get a cost modification if going up against a newer one. This will probably be something like a 25% cost reduction or something like that.

Game 1: Infinity Challenge soundly defeated Hypertime
Game 2: Clobberin' Time finally beat Xplosion
Game 3: Cosmic Justice edged out Critical Mass for the win.

[flyingicarus]

"So Grandmaster. Are you ready to reveal your present team to me? I am very much in the mood for a comedy," the Lord of Time taunts.

"I very much doubt you will be laughing for long," the Grandmaster says, "Not if my Ultimates had anything to say about it. The Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, even Thor are all at my disposal....".

"Ah right, those 'other' reality versions. I've had stale cheese that causes me greater concern. Why not throw in those X-Men light form that world?".

"I have Marvel Girl on the team as well....".

"Marvel Girl and not Phoenix? You disappoint me."

"I have Phoenix. In the form of Rachel Summers."

"Ah, so you threaten my team with Avengers-lite and Phoenix-light. Go on...".

"Hellcat; agile Defender."

"The hilarity does not end."

"How about the villainy of Mysterio or the weapons expertise of the Punisher?".

"That's quite an assemblage you have there. Wait until you hear of time," the Lord of Time says before continuing.

[flyingicarus]

My Ultimates team:

Marvel Girl R 48
Mysterio E 57
Thor 186
Hulk 182
Captain America V 103
Hawkeye V 75
Iron Man U 144
Hellcat V 38
Punisher V 80
Phoenix 86

Total 997

Inish is : 4, in case of a tie I roll 8.

[Gargantua]

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) 58
V Shade (Armor Piercing) 73
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) 80
V Black Adam (Protected) 150
U Superman (Fortitude) 265
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) 44
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) 36
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) 32
R Raven (Triage) 50
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan) 41
E Green Lantern (LMD) 125
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) 50

1004

My initiative roll of 9 beats both of yours. I'll choose the Sciencells:
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/map2.jsp?map=SC

The blocking terrain should be useful for me to cut down on your ranged advantage. Two special rules for the map for the orange areas:
Orange Squares:
Squares inside the orange boundary designate Armory Squares. When placing objects at the beginning of the game, each player must place two objects on squares within an orange boundary line.

Orange Circles:
Orange circles designate Monitor Room squares. Whenever a friendly character occupies a Monitor Room square, all friendly characters can ignore the effect of hindering terrain and other characters on line of fire. A character occupying a Monitor Room square can't be given ranged combat actions or make ranged combat attacks.

Since half your team already ignores the effects of hindering terrain, the Monitor Rooms even the playing field nicely, I think. And the armory squares do little more than limit your choices for placing two fo your three objects.

[Gargantua]

"You may have your Ultimates, for all the good they will do you," the Lord of Time shrugged. "It is time for me to break out the truly heavy weaponry. Superman. Black Adam, and Green Lantern," he indicated the three pieces arrayed in front of him.

The Grandmaster looked a little bit ill. "Putting all your eggs into just a few baskets, I see," he tried to put a good spin on things.

"Oh, I am not done," the Lord of Time chortled. "The genius of Brainiac 5 is also mine to use. Raven, empathic daughter of the demon Trigon. The mental powers and strength of the Ultrahumanite. The mysterious Shade. Deadshot, the deadly assassin. Two-Face, one of Batman's most cunning foes..."

"Most unbalanced you mean," Grandmaster shrugged. If that was all the Lord of Time had to supplement his mainstays, then perhaps he didn't have much to worry about after all. "I see you still have a few pieces remaining."

"Three of the best agents that the various law enforcement agencies have to offer," the Lord of Time said. "Pawns, granted, but even a small weight can tip the scales."

[flyingicarus]

Marvel Girl R I23 (Endurance)
Mysterio E I24 (Dissent)
Thor J23 (Fortitude)
Hulk 182 H24 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) G23
Hellcat V J24 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) K24
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) K23

HO K16 LO G14, O14

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[Gargantua]

Two of your objects should be in the Orange Squres (see the map rules in my last post.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) F2
V Shade (Armor Piercing) F1
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) G2
V Black Adam (Protected) H2
U Superman (Fortitude) I2
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) H1
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) I1
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) J2
R Raven (Triage) K2
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan) E2
E Green Lantern (LMD) L2
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) L1

HO H5, N12
LO C12

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[Gargantua]

Funny thing. For once I could actually use the GLCorps TA and the GL I picked has the JLA TA instead.

Brainiac to G8, taxiing Shade to F8

Two-Face to E8

Ultrahumanite to F7

Black Adam to E7, taxiing Shvaughn to F6

Superman to M7, taxiing Cameron to L8

Montgomery to K8

GL Taxis Deadshot, GL to L7, Deadshot in L6

Raven to M8

Brainiac 5 and Shvaughn copy Mystics.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) @ G8
V Shade (Armor Piercing) F8
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) @ F7
V Black Adam (Protected) @ E7
U Superman (Fortitude) @ M7
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) F6
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) L8
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) @ K8
R Raven (Triage) @ M8
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +1) @ E8
E Green Lantern (LMD) @ L7
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) L6

HO H5, N12
LO C12

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[Gargantua]

"Which side are you on?" the Ultrahumanite demanded of Black Adam and the Shade. Two-Face and Deadshot already stood at the albino ape's side.

"I'd take a look at who's on our side before you make any stupid decisions," Montgomery Kelly said.

"You. Will. Not. Call. Me. Stupid," Black Adam said in barely contained fury.

"Compared to me, you're all idiots," Brainiac 5 said.

"You're not helping," Officer Erin pointed out.

"Who said we want you on our side anyway?" Green Lantern pointed out.

"STOP IT! STOP IT!" Raven shouted, clutching her head. "Such raw anger, distrust, and aggression!"

"Raven's right," Superman pointed out. "We should stop it. It isn't us against you," he indicated the two groups of heroes and villains, with a few uncommitted, "it's all of us against them. I don't like you, Adam. I won't pretend I do. But I'll work with you. We have to."

A sharp pinging noise split the silence that followed Superman's word. Two-Face caught his coin, looked at it. "Good heads." He walked over to stand next to Superman. Deadshot looked at the Ultrahumanite and then at Superman and the much larger group around him. THen he switched sides too.

"Well said," the Shade said to Superman as he strolled over.

"Bah," the Ultrahumanite shrugged. "Fine. We'll play nice. Today."

"It is decided then," Black Adam said. "We'll go at their throats first. Plenty of time to kill each other later."

[flyingicarus]

Hulk moves in place.

Hellcat to J17.

Thor flies Jean to L19, he's L20.



Marvel Girl R L19 (Endurance)
Mysterio E I24 (Dissent)
Thor @ L20 (Fortitude)
Hulk @ H24 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) G23
Hellcat V @ J17 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) K24
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) K23

HO K16 LO B13, O13

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[flyingicarus]

"I don't know these people from Adam. That includes Black Adam," Iron Man notes.

Thor pats his back, "Why even think about it? It's just another foe the boss man tells you to fight. Like Iraq. Viet Nam. Yours is not to question, right?" he chastises.

"At ease soldier," Captain America says, "If the government tells me to fight, I fight. That's what it means to be an American."

"And you think I'm crazy?" Thor adds.

"Hulk like pretty girl with red hair. Hulk wonders if carpet mat---" Hulk says.

"That's enough of that," Marvel Girl says using her telepathy on him she turns to Hellcat and says, "Fortunately his mind is easy enough to damper but man his thoughts are enough to make me blush!".

"The Hulk I know isn't quite so lewd," Hellcat replies, "But the basic premise is he's a mindless powerhouse."

"Who you want on your good side, trust me," adds Hawkeye.

"You're Spider-Man's enemy, Mysterio. I should gun you down on the spot," the Punisher says.

"Have a care. Even a villain has a place in this battle," he replies. Punisher shrugs. He's not always a big fan of Spider-Man anyway.

[Gargantua]

Traditional clearing. Two-Face Perplexes Black Adam's DV up by 1.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) G8
V Shade (Armor Piercing) F8
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) F7
V Black Adam (Protected) E7
U Superman (Fortitude) M7
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) F6
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) L8
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) K8
R Raven (Triage) M8
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +2) E8
E Green Lantern (LMD) L7
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) L6

HO H5, N12
LO C12

[flyingicarus]

Hulk to E22.

Other-n-that I got nuthin'.

Marvel Girl R L19 (Endurance)
Mysterio E I24 (Dissent)
Thor L20 (Fortitude)
Hulk @@ (1) E22 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) G23
Hellcat V J17 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) K24
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) K23

HO K16 LO B13, O13

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[Gargantua]

Black Adam to C12, lugging the Ultrahumanite to C11. Adam grabs the LO from C12.

Kelly to N7

Superman to N12, taxiing Kelly to M13. Supes also grabs the HO

GL taxis Cameron. GL to N11, M12 for Cameron.

Brainiac to D12, taxiing Shade to D13

Shvaughn to H9

Two-Face to I8

Deashot to H8

Brainiac and Shvaughn, copying Mystics.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) @ D12
V Shade (Armor Piercing) D13 (Stealth)
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) C11
V Black Adam (Protected) @ C12 w/LO
U Superman (Fortitude) @ N12 w/HO
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) @ H9
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) M12 (Stealth)
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) @ M13
R Raven (Triage) M8
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +3) @ I8
E Green Lantern (LMD) @ N11
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) @ H8

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[flyingicarus]

I think you have the advantage here. Really should have had a figure I could throw saboteur on. And this map....it really works for you....

Mysterio to K21, outwits Brainiac's ta.

Thor on Brainiac. Needs 4, rolls 8. He takes 4 after toughness and no outwit for you!

Jean tks Punisher to I17.

Punisher on Adam. Needs 4, rolls 11. Imperv is 4. Adam takes 2 and that's a good start for me. It's not quite enough to neuter him but it's a start.

Hellcat goes on a suicide mission and pounces to D11 attacking Adam. Needs only a 3, rolls 4. Imperv is also a 4. It's 1 damage for each but that's an important 1 as it puts Adam off imperv and off major damage.

Marvel Girl R @ L19 (Endurance)
Mysterio E @ K20 (Dissent)
Thor @ L20 (Fortitude)
Hulk (1) E22 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) G23
Hellcat V J17 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) @ I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) K23

HO K16 LO B13, O13

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[flyingicarus]

"Hiya handsome," Hellcat says crashing in, literally on Black Adam, "You're pretty quick on those tootsies on yours. Wanna dance?".

"Get out of my way, Hellcat," Adam says rolling with the blow, "You're a distraction."

"That's the idea, sweetie," she replies.

[Gargantua]

With Marvel Girl in L19, Thor can't shoot out of the cell. The wall and the figure-occupied space meeting diagonally at L19 and K20 solidly block any LOF trying to shoot between them.

[flyingicarus]

You're right, his lof would only get to Shade. My bad. Skip Thor's attack.

[Gargantua]

My point was, Thor wouldn't have LOF to anyone. Marvel Girl's standing in the doorway space, spoiling any shot he may have had. If she weren't there, then it would have been fine.

Anyway, Adam uses his Protected on Punisher's attack, still pushing for 1, but only for 1. Hellcat makes it 2.

Ultrahumanite on Hellcat, AV9 on DV15. Gets 4.

Kelly to J16

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) D12
V Shade (Armor Piercing) D13 (Stealth)
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) @ C11
V Black Adam C12 (2) w/LO
U Superman (Fortitude) N12 w/HO
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist) H9
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) M12 (Stealth)
LE Montgomery Kelly (Inside Information) @@ J16
R Raven (Triage) M8
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +3) I8
E Green Lantern (LMD) N11
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) H8

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[Gargantua]

"You've come to your doom, Hellcat," Ultrahumanite said, swinging at her.

"You say," Hellcat said, ducking his hamhanded punch easily.

[Gargantua]

WHile I'm at it, Brainiac will Outwit Hellcat's Leap/Climb

[flyingicarus]

Actually Marvel Girl doesn't block Thor's lof at all. The thing that kinda does is the corner of the bldg at G14, otherwise it should be a perfect hit.

Iron Man rs to G18 attacking Kelly. LOF looks good. Needs 4, gets 7. He's out.

Punisher trick shot on Adam. Needs 4 (gotta love these old school low dvs), rolls 8 ( 2 4s). Imperv is 3, 2 to him and he next to useless.

Mysterio outwits Brainiac's outwit.

I'll admit it, I'm scared of Superman. He's one frightening dial and honestly, I don't think there's much I can do to stop him, he just gets worse as the dial goes on. Thor rs to F18 attacking Supes. Needs 5, rolls 7. Imperv is 2. That's 3 to Superman. The trouble for me is, that only makes him worse.

Hulk to F16.

Marvel Girl tks Phoenix to G17.

Phoenix on Superman. Needs 6, rolls 7. He takes 3 more. Had to do it, he's far too tough not to hit full force.



Marvel Girl R @@ L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor @ F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (1) @ F16 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) @ G18
Hellcat V (1) J17 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) @@ I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) @ G17

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[flyingicarus]

"Superman, they call you? You weren't so super when I hit you with my hammer. Maybe you should consider a name change? Wimpy Man? Needs His Cheerios Guy?".

"Goad me on all you like," Superman says to Thor, "This is far from done!".

"Right," says the Hulk, "I haven't gotten to you yet. I'll love using your head as a football!".

[Gargantua]

Well, I'm crumbling here. I probably have one good shot left with Superman. Let's see if he can cut Thor down to size.

Superman HSS to G17, attacks Thor, AV10 on DV16. Gets 11. Imperv is 3. Using the HO he's carrying, that's 4 to Thor after his Impervious reduces it. Superman ends in E16

Cameron to K16

Deadshot to I10

Can Brainiac Breakway from Hellcat? Gets 2. Well fine, attacks her then. AV8 on DV15. Gets 8, but SS is 5.

Shvaughn takes a token from Two-Face to up her Move to 9. Moves to H12 to occupy the Monitor Square. I may now ignore hindering terrain for LOF purposes.

Two-Face to L12, and Perplexes GL's Damage to 3

GL also takes 2 Contingency tokens from Two-Face to makes his AV12

Raven Phases to N13

GL on Phoenix, AV12 on DV16. Gets 7. SS is 6. Dammit.

Adam on Hellcat, AV8 on DV15. Gets 5. How can I beat Thor and the Hulk when Hellcat's giving me this much trouble?

Shade on Hulk, AV9 on DV15. Gets 9. 1 to him. Which of course, being the Hulk, is counterproductive.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) @ D12
V Shade (Armor Piercing) @ D13 (Stealth)
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) C11
V Black Adam @ C12 (4)
U Superman (Fortitude) @ E16 (6)
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +2) @ H12
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) @ K16 (Stealth)
R Raven (Triage) @ N13
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +1) @ L12
E Green Lantern (LMD) @ N11
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) @ I10

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[Gargantua]

"Does it look like I need my Cheerios now?" Superman asked, flying past Thor at hypersonic speed and landing a powerful punch on his chin.

"A challenge, huh? I like a challenge." Thor smiled.

"There are a lot of dangerous people over there. Let's see if I can't reduce their numbers a bit," Green Lantern said, taking a shot at Phoenix.

"Word of advice," Phoenix said, dodging. "If you want to hit me, don't broadcast your thoughts so obviously next time."

"I can't say things are going too well," the Shade admitted, and sent a wave of shadow creatures out to keep the Hulk busy.

"You think I'm afraid of the dark, little man? I'll show you, the dark's afraid of me!!" the Hulk sneered.

[flyingicarus]

I'm kind of surprised to be doing so well here.

Phoenix pushes on Superman. Needs 7, rolls 7. 4 to him after toughness, 1 to Phoenix.

Hellcat pounces to C16 attacking Superman. Needs 6 for the ko, gets 11. He's out. She takes 1. Oops...KC roll is a 2, she can't do that. She'll lc to K12 and use the attack on Deadshot instead giving him 3.

Hulk l/c to O12 grabs LO in O13.



Marvel Girl R L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (3) @@ F16 (Repulsor Shield) w/LO
Captain America V G24 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) G18
Hellcat V (2) @ K12 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) @@ (2) G17

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[Gargantua]

Could've sworn I had Outwitted Hellcat's Leap/Climb, but I don't see where I did. However, the figure you've got her basing is Two-Face. I'll reposition her by Deadshot. You can fine tune it.

Two-Face Perplexes GL's Damage to 3.

GL to breakaway from Hulk? Gets 6. Small graces. He'll RS to M12, target Punisher. AV10 on DV15. Gets 8. 3 to Punisher.

Shade on Phoenix, AV9 on DV15. Gets 11. SS is 2. 2 to her.

Brainiac OUtwits Punisher's Outwit.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) D12
V Shade (Armor Piercing) @@ D13 (Stealth)
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) C11
V Black Adam C12 (4)
U Superman (Fortitude) E16 (10)
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +3) H12
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) K16 (Stealth)
R Raven (Triage) N13
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +2) L12
E Green Lantern (LMD) @@ M12
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) I10 (3)

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[flyingicarus]

Punisher's stealthed, how can GL even see him much less get lof from M16?

[Gargantua]

1. The LOF tool says LOF from M12 to I17 is good. No walls or figures crossed.

2. Go back and check the map rules that I posted on page 1, or actually, don't bother. Here:
Orange Circles:
Orange circles designate Monitor Room squares. Whenever a friendly character occupies a Monitor Room square, all friendly characters can ignore the effect of hindering terrain and other characters on line of fire. A character occupying a Monitor Room square can't be given ranged combat actions or make ranged combat attacks.

Shvaughn's occupying a Monitor Room square. So my figures get to ignore hindering for LOF, just like your Ultimates can.

[flyingicarus]

Riiight.

Marvel Girl tks Cap to G17.

Cap to F16 attacking Supes. He's out. This is a prelude of games to come. Cap v Supes that is.

Punisher on Hal & Brainiac. Rolls 8. 2 to Brainy, 1 to him.

Wanting better targets Iron Man rs to H15 attacking Cameron. Needs 5, rolls 4.

Punisher gains outwit back and uses it on Brainy's perplex.

Marvel Girl R @ L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (3) O12(Repulsor Shield) w/LO
Captain America V @ F16 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) @ H15
Hellcat V (2) K12 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) (3) @ I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) (3) G17

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[Gargantua]

Brainiac to F9, taxiing Shade to F10

Ultrahumanite TKs Black Adam to H16

Adam on Phoenix, AV8 on DV15. Gets 10. SS is 5.

Two-Face on Punisher, upping his own AV to 10 on DV16. Gets 9. 1 to Punihser after Toughness.

Two-Face Perplexex Cameron's Damage to 3.

Cameron on Iron Man, AV8 on DV16. Gets 4.

Deadshot on Hellcat, AV8 on DV14. Gets 3.

Part of me feels that it's too early to concede (heck we're only on page 2). Part of me really can't see any way to pull this one off.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) @ F9 (2)
V Shade (Armor Piercing) D13
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) @ C11
V Black Adam @ H16 (4)
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +3) H12
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) @ K16 (Stealth)
R Raven (Triage) N13
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +1) @ L12
E Green Lantern (LMD) M12
E Deadshot (Trick Shot) @ I10 (3)

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[flyingicarus]

Thor on Adam. Needs 4, rolls 7. 2 to him.

Hulk to M11.

Phoenix on Adam. Needs 6, rolls 9. 2 more to him.

Who can Hellcat pick on? I guess she'll go all out for Deadshot no pouncing required. Needs 5, rolls 8. BCF is 6. He's way out.

Punisher outwits Hal's rs.

Marvel Girl R L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) @ F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (3) @ M11 (Repulsor Shield) w/LO
Captain America V F16 (Protected)
Hawkeye V H23 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) @ H15
Hellcat V (2) @ K12 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) (4) I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) (3) @ G17

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[Gargantua]

Two Face Perplexes GL's Damage to 3.

GL to Breakaway. Goes to D14, bringing Raven with him to C14

Brainiac Perplexes SHade's AV to 10

Shade on Iron Man, AV10 on DV16. Gets 11. Impervious roll's a 4, but really irrelevant anyway. With Shade's Armor Piercing, he'll take 1 anyway.

1 click at a time is no way to win this match.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) F9 (2)
V Shade (Armor Piercing) @ F10
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) C11
V Black Adam H16 (8)
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +3) H12
LE Cameron Chase (Running Start) K16 (Stealth)
R Raven (Triage) C13
R Two-Face (Contingency Plan +2) L12
E Green Lantern (LMD) @ D13

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[flyingicarus]

Cap to D13 attacking GL. Needs 6, rolls 7. Raven makes it 8. 2 to Hal after LMD.

Iron Man on Adam. Needs 4, rolls 5. Adam's out.

Jean tks Hawkeye to F16.

Hawkeye's only got lof to Cameron. Needs 5, rolls 7. She's down.

Hulk needs 4 to hit Two-Face, gets 5. 4 to him plus one for the LO, 1 to Hulk.

Marvel Girl R @ L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (4) @@ M11 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V F16 (Protected)
Hawkeye V @ F16 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) @ (1) H15
Hellcat V (2) K12 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) (4) I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) (3) G17

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[Gargantua]

Brainiac to G13, Perplexes Cap's DV down to 16

Hal on Cap, AV9 on DV16. Gets 6. Raven makes it 5. Oh fine. Can't even give me that.

Ultrahumanite Outwits Cap's ESD and attacks him, AV9 on DV16. GEts 9. 3 to Cap.

Shade on Cap, AV9 on DV16, gets 9. 2 more to him.

Raven to In-Cap, AV8 on DV15. Gets 3.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) @ G13 (2)
V Shade (Armor Piercing) @@ F10
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) @ C11
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +3) H12
R Raven (Triage) @ C13
E Green Lantern (LMD) @@ D13 (2)

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[flyingicarus]

I'm still confused as to how this game got so one-sided. I had expected real trouble here.

As for Cap, he's got protected. He uses it on UH's attack and Shade's becomes invalid now that Cap has imperv. Do you want to give him something else to do?

[Gargantua]

Shade can still hit him for 1 with Armor Piercing, and will do that.

I had too many eggs in my Superman/Black Adam basket. One they were neutralized, only GL has the firepower to really hurt your big guns, and you've been dealing with him pretty effectively too. Poor team choices on my part, some good surgical strikes on your own, and voila. Game imbalanced.

[flyingicarus]

Hellcat pounces to E13 attacks Hal. Needs 7, rolls 4. 1 to her.



Marvel Girl R L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) F18 (Fortitude)
Hulk (4) M11 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V (2) D13
Hawkeye V F16 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) (1) H15
Hellcat V (3) @ E13 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) (4) I17 (stealthed)
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) (3) G17

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[Gargantua]

ULtrahumanite Outwits Cap's Exploit Weakness. Brainiac Perplexes his own pitiful DV up by 1. Otherwise I gotta clear.

V Brainiac 5 (Twart) G13 (2)
V Shade (Armor Piercing) F10
U Ultrahumanite (Endurance) C11
LE Shvaughn Erin (Opportunist +3) H12
R Raven (Triage) C13
E Green Lantern (LMD) D13 (2)

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[flyingicarus]

Cap on GL. Needs 7, rolls 7. Raven rerolls 8. 1 to Hal after lmd.

Iron Man rs to F16 attacking Shade. Needs 7, rolls 12. Ummmm....yeah sorry about that. That's 5 to Shade, kb to F9 where he hits the wall for a 6th. 1 to IM. That's not a ko but it's close.

Jean tks Punisher to F15.

He tries to off Shade. Needs 4, rolls 8. Shade's out. 1 to Punisher.

Hulk to C13.

Thor to C12.

Marvel Girl R @ L19 (Endurance-1)
Mysterio E K20 (Dissent)
Thor (4) @ C12 (Fortitude)
Hulk (4) @ C13 (Repulsor Shield)
Captain America V (2) @ D13
Hawkeye V F16 (Nanobots)
Iron Man U (Recharge) (2) @ F16
Hellcat V (3) E13 (Pounce)
Punisher V (Trick Shot) (5) @ F15
Phoenix (Elite Sniper) (3) G17

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[Gargantua]

Can I say I'm done? Because really, I am so done with this game.