NIT.Picks: Not Introduced To-date - Omega Level Iceman

[anonym0use]

N.I.T. Picks #3: "Omega Level Iceman"

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NIT-picks are all in continuity yet completely different takes on an existing character who has transformed in some way beyond what their original power set was.

Today we look at Loki Enhanced Iceman!

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[anonym0use]

Disclaimer: while NIT-picks are not "needs a better dial figures" this figure could be argued to be one that violates this rule. I contend that we have yet to see an Iceman from a post mid-eighties Marvel Universe, and that the Emma Frost "sharp look" and the Loki Belt Buckle look are enough of a change to the character to qualify. Feel free to take umbrage with that decision.

I've always said Iceman is a second class X-man (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?&t=311503) and to date his HeroClix dials have proved the point by making him seem every bit the token comic relief player he is portrayed as in the funny pages. Eclipsed by his amazing Spider-friends, and outgunned by his fellow mutants Bobby Drake should have a dial with more to offer than your standard Barrier/Taxi/Secondary attacker. This isn't just pure fan boy smack talk either. For years Professor Xavier hinted that Bobby was one of the most powerful mutants, though the goofball never seemed to fully hone his skill set to maximize efficiency.

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Enter: Loki, the Asgardian Lord of Lies, who decided to kidnap young Drake and unleash his full power in a scheme that enhanced the Frost Giants (and ultimately failed, because let's face it, what Loki does best is lose). For years Iceman was forced to live with an inhibitor belt because he couldn't control his enchantment enhanced powers.

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This often lead to some embarrassing moments as Bobby lost control of his powers (let's say he had a lot of premature releases) and even injured his teammates from time to time. Eventually Bobby stopped wearing the belt (probably because some new writer forgot about it) and felt he finally had his powers under control.

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Later, when Emma Frost decided to take Bobby's body for a joy ride, she proved he had only begun to tap into his true power and showcased that he was an Omega level mutant capable of adjusting his mass, using a body of water to transport himself long distances, and regenerate parts of his body by taking on water, not to mention creating razor sharp edges, which look really cool (no pun intended).

Case in point, Iceman currently has 4 weaksauce versions (the original REV, and the First Class) and two medium heat characterizations dialed up. We have yet to get an Iceman that lives up to the sub zero promise that was delivered in the comics, a figure with a dial capable of turning into a BCF'ing giant that regenerates when occupying water terrain, and other special power goodness (think Copscicles!). Here's hoping that the next X-men set, be it full expansion or Fast Forces explores the beefed up Bobby Drake and gives fans a solid attack piece that doesn't...well... stink on ice.

(sorry)


What's your favorite Iceman moment?

Share the highlights of an enhanced Iceman below!

[ACG2099]

I am 100% with you.

[Project: J-ko]

As morbid as it is, my number one memory of Iceman in comics is from Age of Apocalypse when Sinister is using him as a living barrier, and Colossus gets past the barrier the hard way.

It was kind of like a "I'm sorry Tovarich." "What?! Argh!!" *SMASH SHATTER KRUNCH!*



I don't want AoA Bobby, that's for sure. :noid:

[theavengerthor]

I couldn't agree more. The Emma Frost/Bobby Drake story is one of my favorites from that era of the X-Men comics. And how awesome does he look when Joe Mad draws him?

I would love a kick butt version of Iceman!

[WolvieFan9]

I concur -- evidently, WK thinks that a "good" version of Bobby would have to be around 125-150 points, because generally the 100-point range versions aren't that great.

Two things seem to keep his effectiveness low -- some strange move+attack powers that seem to be expensive (plus he's quite often a transporter with a low attack value to begin with, which means no one will ever use the transporter move+attack), and some increased form of Incap that drives his cost way up.

The Monsters and Mutations figure had decent enough values so you could try to push him to his tougher clicks, but with the 17 Defend and Barrier up front, and only range 6, he was pretty much destined to get knocked right past his "good" clicks.

I hate to say this, but in order to fit in with the current X-Men teams, we really do need ANOTHER 100-point range (or maybe 110, like Cyke) Iceman, but only better... I just don't see myself fronting a team with a 150 point Iceman, unless he basically had a dial like the FCBD War Machine. (Trade the 4 upfront damage for a 3 and an 11 attack, give him a 10 movement instead of a 12, make the range 8 instead of 10, and swap the Psi Blast for Incap -- AND keep it at 137 points -- now THAT is an Iceman I would play. He doesn't need RCE, so you could give him a special power that allowed him to make a 2-square Barrier after moving as a free action or something.)

[tom730]

Many years ago in the first run of X-Men there was an issue where he had to face Magneto one on one.
That was my favorite Iceman moment, even though I was a little kid at the time! It was one of those classic Stan Lee "Our hero is totally outmatched and shows his true heroism" stories.:grin:

[Blubeard]

am I the only odd one that remembers the Iceman mini series? whitelight and his partner whose name i don't remember and of course oblivion and his daughter Mirage

I also recall enjoying the storyline where he pretty much froze all of central park

[spiderhero]

There were some paperbacks in the late 90's that had Spiderman & the X-Men time traveling & whatnot that made Bobby a powerhouse. It was explained that he doesn't create ice, he controlles cold. He has some pretty cool fight scenes in these novels. I too would like an Iceman figure that is a force to be reckoned with. Maybe with a power like pulsewave but that incapacitates all opposing characters within 5 squares. Here's hoping we get something great with him next time.

[Carbon Rod]

We need a decent Iceman. One who can freeze the moisture in someone's body (like he did to Legion right before AoA started). One who can regenerate from being shattered. One that lives up to his potential. And more importantly, one dressed in the trench coat and hawaiian shirt from Joe Casey's "Uncanny X-Men" run.

But with our luck, the next version will be "thought he was de-powered after M-Day" Iceman.

[tidge]

Despite my appreciation for the X-Factor Iceman, I'm not that interested in an "Omega-Level" Bobby Drake, and so I'm not at all surprised that it's a NIT...after all, the "Emma-motivated" version has pretty much been dropped from continuity hasn't it?


digression / umbrage follows...

I agree that the existing versions are not A-List HeroClix dials, and the recent non-First Class versions push the limits of tolerable cost on a force...but there are more missing gaps for X-players than this Bobby Drake. The Mutant books provide a family tree with plenty of "low-hanging fruit" in terms of character versions N.I.T.: White King Magneto, Walking Xavier, Jetpack Cyclops, AoA Sabretooth, Punk Rocker Cannonball, et al.

[Amora's_best_friend]

I'd like to see something like this:

E Iceman
Team: X-Men
Range: 7 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 95
Keywords: X-Men, Defenders, Champions, Amazing Friends
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal91016381116381116289172791727817278162KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star: WATER ABSORPTION: If Iceman occupies water terrain, that square and squares of water terrain in the same connected spanse are hindering terrain instead.
:star: ICE WALL: Iceman can use Barrier and Incapacitate. When three or more barrier terrain markers placed by Iceman using Barrier are adjacent to a target opposing character with zero or one action token, given that target an action token.

[Rurouni KJS]

I'd like to see something like this:

E Iceman
Team: X-Men
Range: 7 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 95
Keywords: X-Men, Defenders, Champions, Amazing Friends
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal91016381116381116289172791727817278162KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO:star: WATER ABSORPTION: If Iceman occupies water terrain, that square and squares of water terrain in the same connected spanse are hindering terrain instead.
:star: ICE WALL: Iceman can use Barrier and Incapacitate. When three or more barrier terrain markers placed by Iceman using Barrier are adjacent to a target opposing character with zero or one action token, given that target an action token.
I like it, but that would cost a LOT more than 95 points. Compare to this similar dial...
ws038 E Noh-Varr
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 141
Keywords: Animal, Cosmic, Dark Avengers, Future, Kree, Soldier, Spy, Warrior
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(Attack) Transforming Gauntlet Gun: Noh-Var can use Energy Explosion, Penetrating/Psychic Blast, and Pulse Wave.

(Special) Traitor to All: As you reveal your force, you may choose that Noh-Varr loses all keywords this game. If you do, modify his attack value by +1 this game.
In fact, once you add the perma Incap, extra target and pricey X-Men TA, Drake's lucky to end up under 150 points by my reckoning.

[Amora's_best_friend]

I like it, but that would cost a LOT more than 95 points. Compare to this similar dial...
In fact, once you add the perma Incap, extra target and pricey X-Men TA, Drake's lucky to end up under 150 points by my reckoning.

Low defense balances it out, so it's fine.

Plus, Noh-Varr has a click more life, +1 range, +2 defense +1 attack on the first click (+2 attack if you count his trait), Hypersonic speed, Pulse Wave, an extra click of Perplex, and an extra click of regeneration.

Really not comparable.

[Trypswitch]

I have been saying this exact same thing for years. I don't know why wizkids seems to have a hate-on for one of my favourite X-Men but maybe one day they will give us what we want.

[TODDRUSSELL]

I can see a version of Iceman that "Groots" out on like click 5 or 6.

[SevenFeathers]

yes, i think a really awesome 200+ point Omega Iceman would be cool. really cool, something that represents him starting off as his weekest and then just getting better as he cycles through his history. something to that effect would be really really really cool infact.

ummmm...and as to Collosus Smashing his way through AoA Iceman...come on, its Collosus! lol i think anything shy of a adamantium something is going to stop is russian smashing lol

ok back to our regular programming

[cattmoe]

Despite my appreciation for the X-Factor Iceman, I'm not that interested in an "Omega-Level" Bobby Drake, and so I'm not at all surprised that it's a NIT...after all, the "Emma-motivated" version has pretty much been dropped from continuity hasn't it?


Not at all. He was one of the Twelve (even if it was a terrible payoff to years of build-up) and in other realities, such as Mutant X or the early Ultimate books, he has frequently been shown to be very, very powerful. I think more than anything, he's to the point where he has a lot of control over his powers, but uses them in a very defensive way.

I will agree that I would like to see a lot of other alternate versions of characters before this one, though (and I'm a big Iceman fan.) I haven't had a chance to play the GSX version, but it looks pretty good, and I lovethe M&M version - extremely underrated. If anything I'd like to see a Iceman/Human Torch duo with the Spider-Man team ability. Also, a trait where he can use regen while in water terrain would be cool.

[t4st]

I will always remember from the Inferno Crossover. Where Iceman (while wearing the inhibitor belt) begins to ice up the side of a building. It was either Jean Grey or Cyclops who commented "I've always wondered what's stopping him from just freezing the whole world." Gave a little hint to the true potential he has.

[Lokheit]

Well, lately he hasn't given much use of the giant form, but he has been able to regenerate his entire body from vapor of water molecules so he shouldn't have a conditional regeneration but a real non-conditional one.

He is underused (but he will have good moments on future story arc Schism and probably on the next series according to writters) because right now the books are centred on some specific characters (I really like Cyclops, Emma, Dr. Nemesis, Namor, etc, but others need development too) and he can't shine, but before messiah complex he had great moments and proven to be an omega level mutant.

I would like an around 130 points iceman, with :bolt::bolt: and a trait that basically gives him either stunning blow, or make him put a token on an opponent that recives damage from him, 2 in case of a critical attack. That would be great to make him a damage dealer without loosing the classic incap. thing of iceman. Then flying running shot, with an option to use barrier instead of shooting, good defenses, and regen at the end of the dial and you have omega level Iceman.

Indomitable would be fitting too as he can reform his body from ice and vapor in the air, so fatigue doesn't affect him.

[shadeau]

The same can be said for Emma Frost , Wizkids never gives her , her Daimond skin. I figured Diamond skin would be invulnerable or impervious.

[Grinner]

The same can be said for Emma Frost , Wizkids never gives her , her Daimond skin. I figured Diamond skin would be invulnerable or impervious.

"That word, I do not think it means what you think it means."

ct081 V White Queen
Team: X-Men
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 94
Keywords: Generation X, Hellfire Club, Psychic
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mu053 V Emma Frost
Team: X-Men
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 107
Keywords: Generation X, Hellfire Club, Hellions, Mutant, Psychic, X-Men
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(Damage) Headmistress: Emma Frost can use Leadership and Perplex.

[WingedSiege]

I totally agree that a powered-up version of Iceman needs to be made. Also think that White Queen/Emma Frost should be redone. Maybe something along the lines of Cable/Deadpool click or later for Wolverine/Colossus click, only difference is one would be the choice between telepath or diamond (which IMO should ATLEAST start with Impervious).

Is there any reason why Wiz neglects alternate versions of people quickly after they've made their mark in the comics? AoA, HoM, Exiles, Marvel Zombies, etc etc. We get a few guys or a chunk of a set and then thats it. =(

[tylerdrake]

Or Ultimate Iceman with a Hail Mary power - when Iceman is played, you win.

I like the cheapish xmen characters that allow you to field a whole team at once. I much prefer that to a "super" team of 3 characters.

[DarkDragoonX]

was thinking of a white power for a Omega level Iceman. It would work like Pulsewave. Damage is dropped to 1,only the damage can be blocked by tough,Invun,Imperv ect ect, but it also Incaps everyone in the radius of the blast.

[Silentscotsman]

Since you asked for favorite iceman moments, here are a few i recall. These have nothing to do with emma in his body either, though most i think happened after she did it and he began to realize what he could do.

1. During the gene nation event i think, he was being carried around as a head, his body was completely gone but he was still talking to two two young students from the mansion he was basically keeping them alive. they were running around in a desert. i think it was egypt. The girls are cornered in an alley and he has no choice but to steal ALL the moisture from some baddie thats hunting the girls down. he completely dessicates this person killing them and reforming his body.

2. Blown apart by sentinels and existing as a psionic entity in the water vapor in the air. He described it as being everywhere at once in the x-jet. reforms by condensing himself, as long as he has moisture he can reform.

3. taking on bastion he creates clones of himself that move talk and fight, basically he distracts him and frees a bunch of people bastion had held prisoner. was basically him taking out bastion on his own.

4. And perhaps my personal fav moment. Cable recruits him to fend off against the giant psychic bomb that's made from like the deaths of 6 million (billion?) people, and he has iceman drop the surrounding temperture so close to absolute zero, that electro-magnetism STOPS WORKING. This shuts down the powerful forcefield protecting the bomb and allowed rogue to absorb all the minds from the bomb "defusing" it.

And there are more than that.

[eshuroger]

NIT ideas that I can come up with are NIT Hawkman from the "Hawkworld" reboot (and actually his later version, when he merges with the hawk avatar is almost a completely different character, too).

Also Atom from Teen Titans, when Ray Palmer was de-aged to a teenager, he started leading a whole new group of Teen Titans. For a while, during this period, he had the ability to grow, as well as shrink (which isn't reflected in the E Atom from Origin, which has the Titans TA).

Anti-life Equation Mister Miracle: Scott Free had always had the anti-life equation locked up inside, and he kept it under control and largely secret. Now, a bad tempered warrior, like Big Barda, doesn't really come across like a restraint to relatively calm and collected Scott; but she apparently was the only thing keeping him sane, and after she died, Scott took to wearing the anti-life equation proudly, for the brief time before the New Gods were mercifully killed off. Hopefully, Shilo didn't inherit Scott's anti-life equation...in fact, Shilo did more of an 'anti-death' sort of thing, at the end of Seven Soldiers.

[The7ofDiamonds]

I actually did like the 100 point Iceman from M&M. Granted, I didn't really think he was too effective on lower point games. But as part of a 500+ point X-Men team, I liked his use as a barrier figure who could also serve as a backup attacker or :bolt::bolt: incapper, or figure who could stand to sacrifice a click to heal another X-Man.

That said, I fully agree that I would like to see the omega level beast Iceman. Now, I'm not sure we need to see him, but it's something I would strongly like as, even though I'm not that big of a comic fan/reader (more of a "super hero fan" if that makes any sense), Iceman is one of my favorite characters.

[invisibo]

Low defense balances it out, so it's fine.

Plus, Noh-Varr has a click more life, +1 range, +2 defense +1 attack on the first click (+2 attack if you count his trait), Hypersonic speed, Pulse Wave, an extra click of Perplex, and an extra click of regeneration.

Really not comparable.

numbers are meaningless to the point calculator--look at ultimate thor as an early example.

The dial presented with the barrier power makes incap redundant, though.

[Thunderclese]

Yeah that Emma/Iceman story was my eye-opener to how amazing he could be. One of my favorite stories starring Iceman was Operation Zero Tolerance where we see him fending off dozens of Prime Sentinels.
The M&M Iceman is ok, and the GSXM one has his uses, but none of them show off the ability he has at his disposal. Especially considering his ability to reform, when they slap Regen on to characters where it's alot more questionable.

[Vwllss]

Best Iceman so far is the 36-point Experienced version from Xplosion: his attack values are abysmal, but the Defenders TA and the RCE allowed him to be minimally effective if he was ignored.

The sculpt on the GSX Iceman is great, but outside of the time when I HAD to use him in a GSX sealed, I would never field him again. He's over 100 points of useless.

[jeff]

it would have to be the time iceman had gotten his head cut off an havok had to piss on him to put it back on lol

[insight]

I would also love to see this. They've tried but haven't succeeded to make an Iceman that was interesting and playable.

[tobias1991]

this is awesome i have always liked iceman and i agree

[pgubany]

http://www.aduckwhat.com/robert/heroclix/customs_view.cfm#

[pgubany]

Iceman Unique
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Team: X-Men Points: 98
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:star: Icey Barrier Iceman can use Barrier. As long as Iceman Possess Running Shot he may place 4 Barrier Tokens along his path after the attack resolves.
:g-starburst: Omega-Level Potential Reached When this power is revealed stop clicking Iceman. Iceman possess the Colossal Symbol and The Power Cosmic Team ability.

View dial at the Dial Maker (http://www.urlmaker.com/robert/heroclix/customs_view.cfm?figs=70646)

[orangeboy7000]

I've always thought Iceman has the best powers. Both practical and very powerful (if he wanted to be). I don't think we will ever get a heavy-hitter Iceman unless we get a bunch of AoA clix.

[darkjacen]

I kinda liked what they gave in GSX, sure it's not him as an omega, but Spidey-Ally and x-men with transporter ability was actually not a bad idea for Bobby Drake. I agree though that a new more powerful version would be nice.

Iceman Unique
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Team: X-Men Points: 98
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:star: Icey Barrier Iceman can use Barrier. As long as Iceman Possess Running Shot he may place 4 Barrier Tokens along his path after the attack resolves.
:g-starburst: Omega-Level Potential Reached When this power is revealed stop clicking Iceman. Iceman possess the Colossal Symbol and The Power Cosmic Team ability.

View dial at the Dial Maker (http://www.urlmaker.com/robert/heroclix/customs_view.cfm?figs=70646)


Only five clicks? not enough oomph for an Omega.

[Mac42081]

U Iceman
Team: X-Men
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Keywords: Champions, Defenders, X-Men
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Trait - When Iceman occupies water terrain he can use Willpower, Regeneration and modifies all of his combat values by +1.

Attack - Frozen Solid: Iceman can use Incapacitate, but if the attack succeeds against a target with zero action tokens, give the target two action tokens instead of one.
Defense - Ice Ring: Iceman can use Invulnerability and Barrier. When two or more barrier terrain markers placed by Iceman using Barrier are adjacent to a target opposing character with zero or one action token, given that target an action token.

[jatarrasinn]

U Iceman
Team: X-Men
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Keywords: Champions, Defenders, X-Men
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Trait - When Iceman occupies water terrain he can use Willpower, Regeneration and modifies all of his combat values by +1.

Attack - Frozen Solid: Iceman can use Incapacitate, but if the attack succeeds against a target with zero action tokens, give the target two action tokens instead of one.
Defense - Ice Ring: Iceman can use Invulnerability and Barrier. When two or more barrier terrain markers placed by Iceman using Barrier are adjacent to a target opposing character with zero or one action token, given that target an action token.

omg that would be an awesome Bobby:laugh:

[Yam]

yes yes yes a thousand times yes on this Iceman.

[caligula4u]

Agreed I'd defnitely like to see an omega level Iceman. Bobby ( iceman ) and Kurt ( nightcrawler ) are my 2 favorite X-men. We got a great Nightcrawler, now it's Icemans turn. A few other faves I'd like to see made/remade are Shatterstar, Cannonball ( c'mon he's an immortal and has been trained to be an xman for a vey long time. Basically a Cyclops w/o range but has very hi defense and great maneuverability. ), Layla MIller, Pixie ( How'd she not make it in GSX ), Dust, Rockslide, Magik, Hellion, Exodus ( again why was he not in GSX? ), I still hold out hope for a AOA sub set or better yet a mini set like with the Brightet DAY and stuff.

[Roderic_Cliche]

For those complaining about GSX Iceman, either keep him on first click and don't push, OR voluntarily push him down to third click where he lands on Perplex and regains his 10 attack. This Iceman isn't a front man; he's a team backup piece, either by offering 17 Defend (not much, but it can help in a pinch) and a reasonable attack or by offering Barrier and Perplex. You can also make careful use of his Ice Slide hindering terrain markers to bump up defenses OR to tie down opponents as necessary.

[Mr Hobbs]

Dude, I remember he was a BEAST in the Capcom games. ICE BEAM! ARCTIC ATTACK!

[WestCoastAvengers]

They still have never made a good Iceman.

[YoungTG]

That Iceman dial was unreasonable, even for omega standards. The support/secondary attack piece that ends on fulfilled potential with back ended regen placing him back at his supporting clix sounds fine. Like Cypher, but not as useless until his final click. Elixer is Omega level too, after all.

[simonexus]

My favorite Iceman moment was probably him rising from a giant ice patch in the middle of the street and reconstituting himself into a huge, spiky icy figure picking up a rioting civilian in a giant icy hand saying "Take it from someone who knows, dude… temperature is a state of mind." It was I believe Uncanny X-Men #302 during Fitzroy's attack on Forge's penthouse as the Gold X-Men team has just arrived.

That issue also had a nice moment of one of the very, very few instances of Colossus getting pissed and showing just what he can do if he only wants to. And he didn't even hit Fitzroy, who I believe was then hospitalized.

[marvelhero09]

They still have never made a good Iceman.
True that!

[Ignatz_Mouse]

This series is turning into "unmade 'XTREME 90s' versions of character"

That pick of Bobby all spiked up made me laugh.

[Artarus]

Bobby has alwaysbeen under appreciated. Way back when i started reading Comics around the time of the INFERNO storyline, there was a scene where Iceman froze the Empire State Building, top to bottom, and Beast is watching and says "There are times I wonder if Bobby couldn't freeze the world if he put his mind to it."

During the Iceman miniseries he flash froze Hong Kong harbor.. we've seen him slowly grow in power in the comics until now, when he is considered potentially one of the most powerful Mutants alive, and nigh unkillable when in the atmosphere, because he doesn't NEED water, all he needs is Oxygen and Hydrogen and he can MAKE water.

But I totally agree. He does need that pinacle of power clix. But then I'm a huge X-Men fanboy.. and I'd be hard pressed to say that any of the X-Men clix are that quintessential version. Some come close, the most recent Cyclops and Prof. X, but none have hit these characters at the peak of their power.

I mean recently, the X-Men were the only Super-team to take on the Dark Avengers and win, without massive back up. I think they have more then proven themselves to be a power on par with the Avengers and FF.

[Trypswitch]

U Iceman
Team: X-Men
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt::bolt:
Keywords: Champions, Defenders, X-Men
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Trait - When Iceman occupies water terrain he can use Willpower, Regeneration and modifies all of his combat values by +1.

Attack - Frozen Solid: Iceman can use Incapacitate, but if the attack succeeds against a target with zero action tokens, give the target two action tokens instead of one.
Defense - Ice Ring: Iceman can use Invulnerability and Barrier. When two or more barrier terrain markers placed by Iceman using Barrier are adjacent to a target opposing character with zero or one action token, given that target an action token.

Me like!!
Though I think his point cost would be at least 150.
Not that I have a problem spending those points to actually play a good Iceman.

[orangeboy7000]

Dude, I remember he was a BEAST in the Capcom games. ICE BEAM! ARCTIC ATTACK!

He was so cheap and he only had two normal attacks and one super. He was the best because he took no damage when blocking energy attacks and that made all the super cheap Cable players go crazy.

[neondragon]

i don't know if this has been introduced. I think they should make a batman with the yellow power ring and green lantern ring thats not a le

[Crazy Bee]

My two favorite X-men have been Iceman and Angel/Archangel. I'd love to see a new take on Iceman that puts him at his Vet level.

[anonym0use]

This series is turning into "unmade 'XTREME 90s' versions of character"

That pick of Bobby all spiked up made me laugh.

Point taken. :laugh: I didn't realize it, but next week's also fits that theme. :cross-eye

[bullseye100]

Are you a mind reader I was just thinking about this character the other day! I hope this character is made soon...

[tidge]

This series is turning into "unmade 'XTREME 90s' versions of character"


Point taken. :laugh: I didn't realize it, but next week's also fits that theme. :cross-eye

Gah...not Jared Stevens (a.k.a. FATE!) please!

[anonym0use]

Gah...not Jared Stevens (a.k.a. FATE!) please!

Nope, I'd *never* go down that road. Blarg! Jared Stevens to me is a never been made.

The person I'm thinking of currently has at least 10 variations in Clix devoted to them.

[TH0MAS5]

Since you asked for favorite iceman moments, here are a few i recall. These have nothing to do with emma in his body either, though most i think happened after she did it and he began to realize what he could do.

1. During the gene nation event i think, he was being carried around as a head, his body was completely gone but he was still talking to two two young students from the mansion he was basically keeping them alive. they were running around in a desert. i think it was egypt. The girls are cornered in an alley and he has no choice but to steal ALL the moisture from some baddie thats hunting the girls down. he completely dessicates this person killing them and reforming his body.

2. Blown apart by sentinels and existing as a psionic entity in the water vapor in the air. He described it as being everywhere at once in the x-jet. reforms by condensing himself, as long as he has moisture he can reform.

3. taking on bastion he creates clones of himself that move talk and fight, basically he distracts him and frees a bunch of people bastion had held prisoner. was basically him taking out bastion on his own.

4. And perhaps my personal fav moment. Cable recruits him to fend off against the giant psychic bomb that's made from like the deaths of 6 million (billion?) people, and he has iceman drop the surrounding temperture so close to absolute zero, that electro-magnetism STOPS WORKING. This shuts down the powerful forcefield protecting the bomb and allowed rogue to absorb all the minds from the bomb "defusing" it.

And there are more than that.


Chris would LOVE these!

got any more?