Hyde and Sneak: Preview of Cobra and Mister Hyde

[anonym0use]

Today brings us a special double preview of one of villaindom’s oldest and perhaps oddest pairings. Originally joining forces to combat their mutual enemy, Thor, these two represent both brains and brawn, stealth and savagery! We begin our preview today with Mister Hyde!

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...All in all, Hyde makes an aggressive addition to your force, and an interesting co-conspirator for his former partner, Cobra!

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[prekrap]

probably my favourite duo from wayyy back, fightin DD,& thor, dials are spot on.

[spiderhero]

Solid pieces for the points. I don't like clix like Hyde that start low then get stronger. They're too easy to 1 hit down to near nothingness early ing the game. I fear Hyde will be an easy 81 points for my opponent. Cobra, on the other hand, is a Piece I will get some use out of.

[NicMonsteR]

i love that mister hyde. i will also use cobra....

[Amora's_best_friend]

Both great.

[mattsolo]

I don't like clix like Hyde that start low then get stronger. They're too easy to 1 hit down to near nothingness early ing the game.

Granted but with the MOE TA he is going to be able to work his way down to those CCE and Invul clix faster than you would think, doing decent damage along the way.

[gambitrmp]

I wish Hyde had his charge later down his dial where he has a natural 3 or 4 damage instead of up front. It would help his point cost & he may as well just walk up to people & say "hit me" on his opening clix anyway. They will work nicely as a combo but when Hyde is alone that opening charge is kind or sad. Happy to see them both. One needed remake, one new character.

[tom730]

probably my favourite duo from wayyy back, fightin DD,& thor, dials are spot on.

Agreed!
Love their synergy and love that they finally made Cobra!:)

[docsweeney]

Both are very good. And neither are SRs!

[speedy92286]

Hyde is like a better Sebastion Shaw but for less points! He is also an amazing meat shield. Send him up to block LoS to your more important guys. If he gets hit, so what? He gets better as his dial goes down. Could be interesting to see what teams can use him efficiently.

Cobra is great, and is definitely one of my wants. I love poison figures and this guy is a dream come true. The fact that he can even lockdown figures that usually ignore breakaway is great. Unless I am mistaken, they know have to roll a 5 or 6 to break away, which alone makes up his points to me.

Alone they are great, but together they are even better. Have Hyde take a few hits while him and Cobra are getting into position. Team them up with Red Skull and laugh as they bash some skulls while the opponent's defense is lowered further.

[Gargantua]

A new Hyde is very welcome. At only 81 points and 7 clicks of life, he's not as tough as I was expecting a remake would be, but he's not bad. The old IC Hyde is a figure I've never quite shook the need to play occasionally. Now I won't feel like I'm throwing points away just so I can run him. And I like the synergy with Cobra too. Very nice, both of them.

[gawain]

Cobra is great, and is definitely one of my wants. I love poison figures and this guy is a dream come true. The fact that he can even lockdown figures that usually ignore breakaway is great. Unless I am mistaken, they know have to roll a 5 or 6 to break away, which alone makes up his points to me.

I would be a successful breakaway on 4-6, correct? -2 modifier for plasticity, and +2 again for those with leap/climb and hypersonic speed.

[Morgan13]

MAYBE THEY'LL MAKE Mr. HYDE'S DAUGHTER? NOT LIKELY

[speedy92286]

I would be a successful breakaway on 4-6, correct? -2 modifier for plasticity, and +2 again for those with leap/climb and hypersonic speed.

Oh, I read the power too fast. I thought it was he can use plasticity normally, or he can use it against speeders but they get -2. Either way, 50/50 chance to normally catch them in his poison and leave them open for your team to gang up.

[Morgan13]

Yeah It Makes Them Essentially Break Away At Normal

[Carbon Rod]

Looks like I'll have to start dusting off old Serpent Society pieces. I LOVE Cobra. He's like a cheap non SR Sandman. He's an excellent back row/support killer. Is that Prof. X back there? No problem. Push to leap climb across the field and lock down ole' wheels and his gang of researchers or Cypher or X-Men and posion the crap out of them. Just one example, but "King" Cobra will be going on my next all-star team as the support killer.

Hyde is also pretty nasty. Get in someone's face with charge and an object, hopefully hit, and then keep on pushing with MoE until they're either dead or you have Hyde on the clix you want him on. And if Hyde dies? So what? He's only 81 points and probably not your main attacker anyway. I also love that they gave him the same sculpt as his IC counterpart. The only thing Hyde's missing? Thunderbolts keyword. But that's a recent development, so understandable.

[Gargantua]

Hyde is also pretty nasty. I also love that they gave him the same sculpt as his IC counterpart.

It is pretty much the same pose, isn't it? Sweet. That's a nice touch, if intentional. Though they could both be taking the pose from the same image (See the cover on the character card. It is a pretty standard posture for him) I prefer the IC version's crazy hair though. This one's hair looks kind of lank. I think he needs a good volumizing conditioner.

[Heretic]

bit by a radioactive snake??? Really!!! LOL

[mhmike]

love the typo on mr hyders card

[Sigdr]

Ooh, I'm a fan of this Cobra dial. The activation click seems a bit of a waste, especially when the Serpent Society ATA* is available to him, but no matter - he's a fearsome tie-up piece through and through and could even crank out considerable damage with Poison and his decent attacking capabilities on click 2. I'll take that for 11 points cheaper than Plasmus.
Hyde seems a bit less interesting, but the MoE TA does serve that sort of dial well. Hopefully he'll prove effective.


*it still ought to be a regular TA.

[ANANSI]

I really like Cobra's dial and scuplt, and I would like to be interested in Mister Hyde. But, he lacks the t-bolts keyword, heck; I'd even take an "Underbolts" keyword. Mr. Hyde's dial has extremely good stats on the latter half of his dial but, they suffer from a lack of move-and-attack powers. (I guess, the understanding is 'he should be in the fray by that point')
Oh well, I hope Centurius makes a showing in this set, at least I can shoot for an unofficial T-Bolts beta team.

[Sparkdemon]

unable to see the hyde and cobra pics, please help

[Greg]

Hyde is like a better Sebastion Shaw but for less points

They made a Shaw??? but as for these to there a must and i really like the hyde and something i really like about cobra no more hyper in close and run he's like the anti hyper:)

[BoondockSaint1]

unable to see the hyde and cobra pics, please help

I'm having the same problem. I thought maybe they were just re-using sculpts again and both figures were just a giant red X...

[SLVRSR4]

They made a Shaw??? but as for these to there a must and i really like the hyde and something i really like about cobra no more hyper in close and run he's like the anti hyper:)

Yes, all the way back in Armor Wars...



My thoughts so far on this set is that it's going to be one of the best sets ever when used in sealed, but it is just not going to mix well with other previously released pieces, and you won't see a lot of it beyond sealed.

[m0rpheus]

I like them both, but love neither. Both are solid figs but not game breaking.

[Baron Impossible]

i've been a fan of this type of synergy ever since ragdoll/parademon. glad to see the return of the reverse dial design on hyde and hope this bodes well for next year's hulk set. king "of tie-up" cobra will be a good piece but i find it funny that he can't use leadership on either mr hyde or diamondback. maybe the other serpent squaders in the set will have lower points

Solid pieces for the points. I don't like clix like Hyde that start low then get stronger. They're too easy to 1 hit down to near nothingness early ing the game. I fear Hyde will be an easy 81 points for my opponent. Cobra, on the other hand, is a Piece I will get some use out of.

public knowledge of that type of dial design is why i can plant IC vet hulk in the middle of my opponent's force and watch him cringe at the thought of hitting him into hulk-smash mode. it's almost as affective of an attack deterrent as the mystics TA (if only there was someone with both...)

MAYBE THEY'LL MAKE Mr. HYDE'S DAUGHTER? NOT LIKELY
secret warriors is an announced theme in this set. daisy's a high likelihood

I like them both, but love neither. Both are solid figs but not game breaking.

shouldn't that be the goal of dial-design?

[maddragon13]

I like both figures. Hyde seems like a nice bruiser fro the points. I like Cobra's dial for the points but wish he had more keywords than just "Serpent Society". And it's a shame that both Hyde and Cobra don't share a common keyword to play them on a theme team together.

[Spudeus]

Love how the flavor text on Hyde's card makes him out to be a B-list wannabe (which I guess he is ;)).

[Kite-Man]

I can't believe I finally got Cobra.
I've been asking for this figure for about 8 years...
:cry:

[Mutared]

...unless you could care less about the benefits of theme teams.

So, you're trading a number of special uses of probability control, map choice, and the ability to go determine order of play for a +1 bonus to attack for two debatably useful characters when they're adjacent to each other?

I don't care if those two alone amount to only 150 points. If you're not going for actual theme team, you're probably going to want to throw some better figures into the mix.

Cobra is admitadly much more impressive than I first thought, what with his ability to make people break-away as normal when they would otherwise get a free pass, but as others have mentioned, his leadership is only halfway utilized (who are you going to remove tokens from, with a 69 point ceiling?). But even still, with only the serpent society keyword (read: restricted theme team options) you could spend 69 points a whole lot better than him.

Hyde is... well... "Almost" good enough to use, but never quite good enough. Thematic for the character at least. I guess when it comes to team choice, I'll probably always "almost" choose him before I go for someone else.

[michiganj24]

Well so far it works on nearly even serpent Society member (bar Dback) as well as Sin (which is really the way it should be as that the only keyword he has plus Dback is the one who didnt follow his leadership)
as to 69 being too little
Other under 75 point figures with leadership
Cap, Ult Nick Fury, Agent Brand, Citizen V etc


but as others have mentioned, his leadership is only halfway utilized (who are you going to remove tokens from, with a 69 point ceiling?). But even still, with only the serpent society keyword (read: restricted theme team options) you could spend 69 points a whole lot better than him.

Hyde is... well... "Almost" good enough to use, but never quite good enough. Thematic for the character at least. I guess when it comes to team choice, I'll probably always "almost" choose him before I go for someone else.

[RampagingHulk]

They are a duo but not double based.