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Tools!
1 - Thawmus & Malakim2099 - They're both pretty big tools. They're also kinda helpful. So ask them questions. If they're your DM, you should ask them lots of questions. They'll have answers.
2 - Wizards' not-so-free tools= These require a subscription to get the full effect:
Compendium (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Tool.aspx?x=dnd/4new/tool/compendium) - This is the compilation of damn near everything in D&D. If it was in a book, it's here. Glossary terms can be found in here, which can be really handy if you want to look up the difference between Dazed and Stunned.
Character Builder (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Tool.aspx?x=dnd/4new/tool/characterbuilder) - If you're here, you've probably sat with me and had your character made with this handy dandy tool. The reason they don't want you to use this thing for free becomes clear quickly - it almost removes the necessity for having the books, completely. Actually, I'd pretty much say it does.
One point of note: A subscriber can use their username and password to update 5 Character Builders per month. So, when we get this all divvied up, chances are that those of you who are super solid participants, and need updates for your character builder, will have one.
Dragon Magazine (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Tool.aspx?x=dnd/4new/tool/dragonmagazine) - All sorts of articles, artwork, and ideas for your character. Any classes, races, feats, or powers that you run into, is already included in the Character Builder, though, so don't worry about those.
3 - Wizards' Free Tools - No subscription required
Name Generator (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Tool.aspx?x=dnd/4new/tool/cng)
D&D Forums (http://community.wizards.com/go/forum/viewcategory/75882/Dungeons_38_Dragons) - I've found that the Role-specific forums can be a huge help for your build ideas.
4 - RPTools - Bolded because these are really important for you to have.
RPTools launch page (http://www.rptools.net/index.php?page=launch) - This is the page where you can save your shortcuts for launching their programs, or launch them directly from this page. Be sure and read the instructions. If you don't have Java, you'll be installing it.
MapTool - I do not plan on using this anymore. Mal might, but I won't.
InitiativeTool - don't bother. That's for me and Mal.
Character Tool - Give it a try, but you may find that it's not all that necessary, compared to Character Builder, or the PDF I've send you. Actually, I seriously wouldn't bother. It's up to you though.
TokenTool - makes tokens. This is a very easy to use tool for making character pogs for use in Gametable. If you make yours, send it to me via email!
DiceTool - really not necessary, since there's dice rollers in Gametable. Don't bother.
5. Gametable : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gametable/
Gametable is the platform we'll be using to play the game. If this software doesn't work, you're not playing. When you are finished installing it, you will find it in your start menu as "OSU-gt R8". Don't ask me why, I really have no idea.
The server IP address is not something I will post publicly. However, the password will always be "HCR", and the port will always be 6812. If you are trying to connect on X night, just PM me, and I'll send you the IP address.
6. GSC http://www.getgsc.com/gsc/downloads/
GSC is the tool we will most likely be using for voice communication. For those of you who are familiar with Ventrilo, it's pretty much the same thing, except completely free. More details will follow, but for now, it would be a good idea to install this, and get registered so that you can connect.
NON-DIGITAL TOOLS:
1. Player's Handbook (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/217367200)- Personally, I find that, thanks to Character Builder, this is really the only book you would really need to own. It has all of the tactical combat rules and such, that help you understand how the game works.
2. Rules Compendium (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/247530000) - Currently unreleased, and part of the new Essentials line, this is a catchall for all of the core rules. If you passed up on the Player's Handbook, this would be a good idea as well.
3. Other books - There are a lot of supplemental books in D&D 4th edition, and you can use any of them. In 3.5, DMs were always cautioned against doing this, because the stuff in each splat book was always potentially game breaking. In 4th edition, everything available in the game, is available in the character builder anyways. So if you spot something in a brand new book that you really want to use, chances are pretty good that I'll have access to it.
Stuff that you might want to look into, would be a book that centers on your race or class, so that you can pick out more of the fluff and flavor for your character. For example, if you were a Genasi Swordmage, picking up Forgotten Realms Player's Guide, would be a good idea, since it is the book that introduced both that race, and that class, and would give you all the flavor you need for both.
[/my rather half-hearted attempt to push the game books]
The campaign is "Thawmus' Heroes".
Set 150 years after the Skycutter revolution, led by the "Legendary without Legend" group. The brand new Skycutter kingdom made alliances with everyone, and then started expanding all over the place.
It was during this expansion that they discovered the Ebony Staircases. Carved by unknown hands, these staircases went into the Wall of the World, and would end in new worlds.
One of these worlds, was the Dwarven Underconquer. What it was called before this, is unknown. A place inhabited by trolls, goblins, orcs, hobgoblins, bugbears, bullywugs, ogres, kobolds, and the like. Skycutter initially expanded there as a peaceful campaign, wishing to bring civilization to the Underconquer. Later, they showed considerably more interest, and the reasons for that are unknown. During this time, they used Underconquer Prime, a construct of unspeakable power, to carve a path through their enemies/wards.
The party started out in the city of Foulstone, the gate city to the Ebony Staircase. It was here that they first encountered Romack, one of the original members of the Legendary without Legend. Romack commissioned them to look for Thawmus, Romack's old friend, and leader of the Legendary without Legend, who had been missing for some time.
It was during their search for Thawmus that they discovered from more than one source that Romack was not to be trusted. Not wanting to interact with him further, they ventured to the town of Tinactin, running into a troll named Groggulgoggum a human monk named Alexander Armstrong, and a goblin named Lak'Da.
While in Tinactin, they fought an undead lord named The Undertaker. During the battle with his minions, Lak'Da fell in battle, then got up again, revealing himself to actually be Thawmus. With Thawmus revealed, the tide swung quickly in the party's favor. However, during the battle, Romack appeared, confronting Thawmus. There was some dispute as to who had planned their confrontation, until Thawmus revealed that the planner had all along been Romack, just not the Romack standing before him.
While this was taking place, Lord Odimous appeared, and fired 100 arrows into the Ebony Staircase. This severed the Underconquer's link to the rest of the world, and sent it careening into the void below.
A few minutes later, Romack had retreated, and the Underconquer had landed in Eberron. Thawmus handed out instructions to the party, that they would be instrumental in uniting the Underconquer, so that they could all embark on this adventure together.
And so it is, that Thawmus' Heroes will forge their own path, that they may be Legendary without Legend as well.
NPC's:
The Bad Guys:
Romack - Former member of the Legendary without Legend. He was Batman to Thawmus' Superman. An intricate planner who thought out strategy centuries in advance, he saw the trials and problems that would exist today, and enacted a plan to circumvent them. Unfortunately, he was taken over by a Lich, who inhabits his body now, using his power to do evil.
Muralk - A most hated villain of the Legendary without Legend. Muralk gave them trouble time and time again, until he was killed in a Dwarven forge. This occurred mere months before the Skycutter Revolution.
The Undertaker - Formerly a fake fighter in the Tinactin Colosseum, he somehow consorted with dark powers, and raised an undead army. His ties with Romack are currently unknown. He was defeated in the corrupted Colosseum shortly before the Ebony Staircase was destroyed.
The ? Guys:
Rawklawk - Descendent of one of the Legendary without Legend. A powerful Psionic Orc, who has warned the party that he is unsure of where Romack and Thawmus stand.
Lord Odimous - An Elven member of the Legendary without Legend, whose motives are questionable. He is currently following Longclaw, to determine if he is a worthy student of his fighting style.
Taxbo - Kobold Assassin, taught by the Darkleaf Elves in the Underconquer. Knew a lot about the Legendary without Legend before the party did. Was originally commissioned to find Thawmus, but when he found out who Romack was, neglected to return to his employer.
The Axe Wizard - Many many many years into the future, a warrior wizard by an unknown name, will wield the powers of time travel and bend them to his will. Unfortunately, in an experiment gone wrong, he will merge his soul with his Axe. The Axe was found in the hands of Groggulgoggum, and then handed off to Thawmus during a terrible battle. On rare occasion, the Axe will disappear, though it always comes back precisely when Thawmus needs it. Thawmus has also claimed that the Axe Wizard speaks to him, and that he is still capable of casting powerful magic.
The Good Guys:
Sinruth - Hobgoblin Knight, extremely stalwart and proud. He challenges adventurers to duel him, in exchange for whatever new enchanted armor he's wearing. Upon learning the party is the new Legendary without Legend, he has vowed to serve and protect them.
Groggulgoggum - Terrible Sorcerer, excellent Troll. Groggie is very old. Old enough to have adventured with the original Legendary without Legend for some time. He originally was a shopkeeper, but now carries around a sack full of magic items, in hopes of finding a buyer. He appears to have been aware of Thawmus' plan from the beginning.
John Madden - Mayor of Tinactin, he has commissioned Armstrong to be Tinactin's diplomat in Prime City
Thawmus - Leader of the old Legendary without Legend. Long ago, Gruumsh's avatar abducted the queen of the human kingdom (Then being the kingdom of Draega), taking her to his realm. There, the god himself raped her, and then left her to die on the side of a road. The palace guards found her and rescued her, only to discover weeks later that she was with child. That child, was Thawmus. His mother died early on in his childhood, and the kingdom would not have him as an heir to the throne. He attempted to embrace his orc brethren, who turned him into an engine of destruction.
Thawmus wears an eyepatch over his right eye, due to having once been a member of the Eye of Gruumsh, in a near-sighted attempt to try and get an audience with his father, so he might kill him. His other eye is covered with a lone darksight goggle. His clothing is hide leather, covered with metal and studs and spikes. In both hands he wields his trusty Time Axe.
Thawmus is nigh-indestructible, though he has died on two occasions, only to merely get better.
Custom Dragonmark Feats -
Thawmus - battles, endurance, party leading, commanding
Romack - Arcane arts, battle eloquence, intelligence, strength
Rawklawk/McKenzie - Psionic ability, telepathy, empathy, mind games
Lord Odimous - Archery, dark arts, vampirism, ritual casting
Iggy the Elf (who is actually a halfling) - Throwing mastery, Archery, drunken fighting
Draconimous - Dragonic energies, sorcery
Shadowspencer - Thievery, shadow, stealth, assassination, dark arts
Dosa - two-weapon fighting, tracking, nature worship, impossible strength
Sylvilagus (Before he became this really lame character known as King Cottontail)- Elemental power, Primordial power, command of nature
Himo - healing, healing, more healing, bane of the undead
Jack of Jacks - stealth, mounted combat, investigation, assassination
Unknown - to be revealed (When you guys know they exist and stuff)
Current Party:
Tyronius Flintstone - Dragonborn Bard/Paladin - Tyronius carries within him the Shard of Io, the great dragon god who was killed in a drunken rage by Thawmus. Prophecy states that he who carries the shard will become Io's Avatar, and bring him back into this world.
Calcifer - Genasi Warlord - Trained in the Elemental Chaos in the art of war by the Githzerai, Calcifer wanted more out of his abilities. Fame, fortune, and a kickass battle history. Entering a random portal, not knowing where it would lead, he ended up adventuring to the Underconquer.
Alexander Armstrong - Human Monk - A native to the Underconquer and the town of Tinactin, Armstrong is a proud bodybuilder. He believes that his beautiful muscles should pave the way toward freedom and greatness and stuff.
Duuth Totherka - Githyanki Swordmage - Also trained in the Elemental Chaos, Duuth was a member of a Githyanki pirate crew, when he somehow ended up in the Underconquer. His skills quickly gained the attention of the populace of Foulstone, and became a local hero overnight.
Longclaw - Shifter Ranger - Longclaw trained in the bow and the sword while with his Shifter pack, until he became of age, and became a mercenary for hire. He came to the Underconquer in hopes of finding employment. Instead, he's found destiny and interest from powers he could never have imagined.
King Cottontail - Wilden Druid - Formerly known as Sylvaligus, the most powerful Elemental Druid the world had ever known, he somehow went through an ordeal that turned his body into that of a rabbit, which only recently expired. Now in his original form, he has no memory of who he was....but he continually taps into power reserves that should not be available to someone with his level of expertise.
Reserves:
Zemik the Chill - Eladrin Wizard - A wizard who focuses entirely on the cold of winter, Zemik is a prankster, but also very wise. At one point he will be drawing a penis on your face, the next he will be handling negotiations with a tribal chief eloquently.
Former Party Members:
Chubby - Goliath Fighter - Chubby was a mercenary for hire, who had been outcast by his clan. Chubby decided that there was more fighting to be had elsewhere, and left the group.
Truffles - Drow Rogue - Truffles attempted to unbound herself from the ties to Lolth she carried on her soul, asking Sune and Corellon to intervene for her. Her internal struggles becoming a burden for her, she left the group until such time as she could return and kill bad guys again.
We gots everything we need in this thread?
Putting my notes of the encounter thus far here because this is the best place for me to remember:
At 33 hp, 8 healing surges left.
#2 in the turn order.
Used Call Lightning (encounter).
Party stuff thus far:
Party Gold Total: 1145 gp, -30 silver pieces for gate fee
For ease of reference:
Magic Items or Magic Armor
Lvl 1 - 360 gp
Lvl 2 - 520 gp
Lvl 3 - 680 gp
Lvl 4 - 840 gp
Lvl 5 - 1,000 gp
We gots everything we need in this thread?
I.....hope so? :nervous:
Hey, guys, let me know if there's anything in the 4th post you want me to change at all.
Ouchmaker
06/30/2011, 19:38
Longclaw - Shifter Ranger - Longclaw trained in the bow and the sword while with his Shifter pack, until he became of age, and became a mercenary for hire. He came to the Underconquer in hopes of finding employment. Instead, he's found destiny and interest from powers he could never have imagined.
Longclaw - Shifter Ranger - Longclaw history is filled with persecution as he and his kin were imprisoned when he was a child. Longclaw managed to escape, and found a new family under the tutelage of a forest elder, who taught him in the art of hunting, teaching him the use of the bow and close combat, and to respect the laws of the nature. Longclaw eventually left the elder and his new family after coming of age and became a mercenary for hire in an effort to find his own path, and perhaps his old family. He came to the Underconquer in hopes of finding employment. Instead, he's found destiny and interest from powers he could never have imagined.
Reminder for everyone tonight:
We are starting out the session in the middle of combat.
PUT YOUR LEVEL 5 SHEETS ASIDE UNTIL COMBAT IS OVER
Once combat is over, you probably will have time for an extended rest, at which point you can throw away your level 4 sheets, and bring your level 5 sheets to the table. :)
Would it be good to spend our action points, because we'd get them back after we level?
Would it be good to spend our action points, because we'd get them back after we level?
You reset to 1 action point whenever you take an extended rest, period.
As for whether that is strategically sound for you to do in this particular combat, I do not know.
I hope people kept track of whether they had used one or not, because I know for a fact that people did use them.
charlesx
07/01/2011, 20:57
GSC is down for me. Anyone else have the same problem?
I need to add some fancy new Hide Armor and strip away a Phantom Soldier.
Also, the "Other Equipment" needs a new skin added in the inventory. :)
Party stuff thus far:
Party Gold Total: 1145 gp
-30 silver pieces for gate fee
+1400 silver pieces
+240 gp in jewels + 40 gp worth of jars
+1,260 gp
For ease of reference:
Magic Items or Magic Armor
Lvl 1 - 360 gp
Lvl 2 - 520 gp
Lvl 3 - 680 gp
Lvl 4 - 840 gp
Lvl 5 - 1,000 gp
Ouchmaker
07/02/2011, 00:16
get, if I create a lvl 5 kalashtar that in my mind suits to how you're currently playing your wilden, will you promise to seriously think about changing your character?
I've already played with both Kalashtar Sorcerors and Shardmind Wizards in the character builder previously.
Ouchmaker
07/02/2011, 11:50
I've already played with both Kalashtar Sorcerors and Shardmind Wizards in the character builder previously.
I didn't hear a no in there. :cheeky:
Silverlight Document.pdf - 1.47 MB (http://www.fileswap.com/dl/z7AgortR/Silverlight_Document.pdf.html)
Kalashtar Psion
I guess my thing is this...
Going off of last night's discussion, if you can't see yourself playing a Heroic character instead of an Evil character (and, again, we're not talking a goody-two shoes, but you should have an interest in adventuring and either fame, fortune, or helping people), then I would ask myself if that's because I can't play one, or because I can't play KC like one.
If I can't play KC like one, I should make a new character.
If I can't play like one, I should not play in a Heroic campaign at all.
Ouchmaker
07/08/2011, 00:42
So..... dead quiet much?
So..... dead quiet much?
We're using Kalashtar group telepathy.
is there a game tonite?
Yes there is.
m_a_caque
07/08/2011, 15:33
Duuth Totherka - Githyanki Swordmage - Also trained in the Elemental Chaos, Duuth was a member of a Githyanki pirate crew, when he somehow ended up in the Underconquer. His skills quickly gained the attention of the populace of Foulstone, and became a local hero overnight.
we changed my backstory from local hero to curious archeologist. :)
Duuth Totherka - Githyanki Swordmage - Also trained in the Elemental Chaos, Duuth was a member of a Githyanki pirate crew, when he somehow ended up in the Underconquer. His skills quickly gained the attention of the populace of Foulstone, and became a local hero overnight.
we changed my backstory from local hero to curious archeologist. :)
No reason you can't be both. ;)
Real busy today. Not sure when I'll get home. :(
charlesx
07/08/2011, 17:11
Yes there is.
And you shall have my sword at the game tonight! :cool:
charlesx
07/08/2011, 19:41
we changed my backstory from local hero to curious archeologist. :)
Why can't he just be a follower of Macaque???
Checking in by phone. Still not home yet. Will be an hour.
Hope Melkhor shows up.
Just a heads up:
Tyro is now level 5. However, and this is completely up to him to decide before Friday, he has two characters. One is his current character at level 5. The other is the same character as a Bard, instead of a Hybrid.
It should be noted that if he decides to stick with this change, he cannot function as a Defender any longer (though I think we can all agree the Swordmage fills that function pretty ridiculously), and will function instead as a front-line Leader, much like Calcifer.
What this means?
1. You'll have more healing available during combat. I seem to get healing retrain questions whenever I level someone, and we have two characters with Runepriest multiclassing, so it deserves addressing. He also tosses around temp hp like it's a fashion statement.
2. You now have another Ritual Caster, who can perform Religion and Arcane rituals (This may seem like an overlap, but it's never a bad idea)
It should also be stressed, again, that while he does a lot of damage from the front, he's not your most powerful melee weapon. Since Truffle's departure, Calcifer has been and likely always will be your most powerful straight melee combatant, barring an Avenger, Rogue, or Barbarian joining the party. It's wise to remember that when trying to grant attacks or buff someone on the front line.
Anywho, since I'm planning for combat right away this week, I thought I'd give you a heads up that a member of your party has changed significantly combat-wise (though not roleplay-wise), rather than let you be surprised at this and caught off-guard.
charlesx
07/12/2011, 14:44
Game on Friday! Game ON!
m_a_caque
07/12/2011, 19:14
Just a heads up:
Tyro is now level 5. However, and this is completely up to him to decide before Friday, he has two characters. One is his current character at level 5. The other is the same character as a Bard, instead of a Hybrid.
It should be noted that if he decides to stick with this change, he cannot function as a Defender any longer (though I think we can all agree the Swordmage fills that function pretty ridiculously), and will function instead as a front-line Leader, much like Calcifer.
What this means?
1. You'll have more healing available during combat. I seem to get healing retrain questions whenever I level someone, and we have two characters with Runepriest multiclassing, so it deserves addressing. He also tosses around temp hp like it's a fashion statement.
2. You now have another Ritual Caster, who can perform Religion and Arcane rituals (This may seem like an overlap, but it's never a bad idea)
It should also be stressed, again, that while he does a lot of damage from the front, he's not your most powerful melee weapon. Since Truffle's departure, Calcifer has been and likely always will be your most powerful straight melee combatant, barring an Avenger, Rogue, or Barbarian joining the party. It's wise to remember that when trying to grant attacks or buff someone on the front line.
Anywho, since I'm planning for combat right away this week, I thought I'd give you a heads up that a member of your party has changed significantly combat-wise (though not roleplay-wise), rather than let you be surprised at this and caught off-guard.
guess that swordmage better be on top of his game from now on. ha ha feel bad for the sucker that picked defender.
charlesx
07/12/2011, 20:54
I intend to furious battle as long as Macaque is in the forefront, standing at attention!
i haven't quite figured this out yet. some party input? stay 2nd fighter or change to get more healing in the party? i'm still kinda torn. :confused:
also, i'm guessing there is a game planned for tonite?
A bard would be great. Buffs and healing are always beloved.
charlesx
07/15/2011, 18:08
For once I agree with the bunny.
Are we playing tonight? If so, I will try my damnedest to be on time.
This week has totally kicked my ###.
We're starting this week with an encounter.
T-minus 1.5 hours.
charlesx
07/15/2011, 20:27
Crapola. I may be late. Can someone please run Calcifer until I get there?
Thanks.
m_a_caque
07/19/2011, 18:15
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268472_10150275788444617_103137454616_7368001_2234517_n.jpg
carp a dm tee hee
Hey Thawmus (and other people) sorry I've been out of touch lately, had some vacation time coming up, along with a ton of personal stuff that ate up most of my time, unfortunately.
I'm leaving again for another week of vacation tomorrow (there are some advantages to living in Denmark :) ) but after that I should be back and ready to help out once more! :)
Ouchmaker
07/20/2011, 04:55
Well, I started to flesh out the backstory of Longclaw, and decided that one of his "brothers" is a half-orc Marauder Ranger. I was thinking about a Bugbear, but it didn't have enough info in the old builder.
Well, I started to flesh out the backstory of Longclaw, and decided that one of his "brothers" is a half-orc Marauder Ranger. I was thinking about a Bugbear, but it didn't have enough info in the old builder.
Eh, it's an NPC.
You don't need racial stats to match up for an NPC. :p
Ouchmaker
07/20/2011, 13:30
Eh, it's an NPC.
You don't need racial stats to match up for an NPC. :p
Well, it's an NPC in this campaign, but who knows.... ;)
charlesx
07/20/2011, 14:42
So.............. game Friday?
Yes?
No?
Maybe so?
:cool:
I would say that from now on, so that I don't eventually get irritated by it, and to ensure that people don't bail under the impression that we're not playing "X" week: Yes, we are playing every Friday, except the Fridays I say we're not playing.
I am starting to get some D&D overload.
Kinda.
Not really.
We'll see.
This week:
Monday - nothin'
Tuesday - 15th level D&D campaign (Unaligned Elf Avenger!)
Wednesday (today) - 1st level D&D campaign (Evil Orc Runepriest!)
Thursday - PL 11 Mutants and Masterminds (Frank Heller, FBI)
Friday - 5th level D&D campaign (I'm running this ####er!)
Saturday - nothin'
Sunday - 20th level D&D campaign (Lawful Good Human Executioner, maybe!)
There's enough D&D in my week to beat someone to death with, now.
omg, you have no life on mondays or saturdays! :o
Ouchmaker
07/20/2011, 16:10
omg, you have no life on mondays or saturdays! :o
I know, how about some Gamma World on Fridays and Pathfinder on Mondays?
You know, to spice things up a bit. :p
Hey Thawmus (and other people) sorry I've been out of touch lately, had some vacation time coming up, along with a ton of personal stuff that ate up most of my time, unfortunately.
I'm leaving again for another week of vacation tomorrow (there are some advantages to living in Denmark :) ) but after that I should be back and ready to help out once more! :)
I'll be traveling on Friday, and I'm not planning on being present at the session. Melkhor, I take it you won't be here to take KC on this Friday?
After a short rest and healing up, I have myself at:
6215 xp
5 healing surges
All Dailies used.
Action Point used.
Party stuff thus far:
Party Gold Total: 2955 gp
-30 silver pieces for gate fee
+1400 silver pieces
+240 gp in jewels + 40 gp worth of jars
Oh!
I forgot that on Saturdays, I am also playing D&D with little kids, teaching them how to play.
Oh!
I forgot that on Saturdays, I am also playing D&D with little kids, teaching them how to play.
Isn't that what you do on Fridays? :cheeky:
m_a_caque
07/21/2011, 08:37
i pre-ordered sw:tor today... and it doesnt even have a release date yet.
charlesx
07/21/2011, 08:54
i pre-ordered sw:tor today... and it doesnt even have a release date yet.
Is that a new Star Wars game or something? I can't say that I have been keeping up with video games these days. What's it about?
Isn't that what you do on Fridays? :cheeky:
It's considerably easier on Saturdays.
:cheeky:
charlesx
07/21/2011, 10:51
It's considerably easier on Saturdays.
:cheeky:
No bunny druids on Saturdays, are there? :laugh:
No bunny druids on Saturdays, are there? :laugh:
It seems that little kids are interested in playing Heroes, and are far more interested in storyline than anything else. They're all playing Essentials characters, which is pretty great for them (and which I'm still considering forcing on a couple of you slow pokes), because for the most part they're just like, "Yeah, I hit him with my sword!!!", and then they just roll a melee basic attack (Essentials classes (for the most part) just give a bunch of bonuses to this instead of using powers).
Very entertaining ideas they come up with, too. Really the biggest problem you run into is that they sometimes try to DM. :laugh:
EDIT: I'm not running the game, btw. I'm the 6th party member, playing a Cleric so that they don't die.
m_a_caque
07/21/2011, 11:16
Is that a new Star Wars game or something? I can't say that I have been keeping up with video games these days. What's it about?
yes, it's the new star wars MMO (massively mutliplayer online) game that is "supposed" to be released around xmas.
m_a_caque
07/21/2011, 11:19
It seems that little kids are interested in playing Heroes, and are far more interested in storyline than anything else. They're all playing Essentials characters, which is pretty great for them (and which I'm still considering forcing on a couple of you slow pokes)
i like my character, but am willing to change to whatever an essential char is if need be
charlesx
07/21/2011, 11:20
yes, it's the new star wars MMO (massively mutliplayer online) game that is "supposed" to be released around xmas.
Oooooooh. Gotcha. I'd be interested in this game, had not Uncle George soured me on all things Star Wars with his prequels and 3D re-releases and the like. Let me know how it goes - I may be just a bit prejudiced on this issue. Cheers!
i like my character, but am willing to change to whatever an essential char is if need be
Eh, I edited that, because I knew the wrong people would apply it to themselves.
For example, here, the wrong person applied it to themselves. :laugh:
EDIT: No, wait, I didn't.
Well, anyways, yeah, not you.
Really, the guideline is about 60 seconds. Aside from having to roll against multiple enemies, or using an action point, or somehow otherwise extending your turn a bit, your turn should take 60 seconds.
You should have a good idea of what you are going to do, before it's your turn. You should be paying attention to what's going on. And, yes, while things can change between then and when your turn starts, you should still be well versed enough with your character that you know how he works, and what he should do right now.
The times where I call someone's name and then there is about 2-3 minutes of silence, which is then broken by "I'm thinking!", tells me a character may need scrapping.
Oooooooh. Gotcha. I'd be interested in this game, had not Uncle George soured me on all things Star Wars with his prequels and 3D re-releases and the like. Let me know how it goes - I may be just a bit prejudiced on this issue. Cheers!
Watch these trailers for that game Dave is talking about and tell me your Star Wars curiosity isn't piqued:
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Bioware would like their Mass Effect franchise's look back, thanks. You have yours.
Ouchmaker
07/21/2011, 17:29
Just because I felt there was trouble last time, I want to make this clear:
Every turn you get 3 actions to use.
1) Standard Action, most at-will, Encounter and Daily powers require these to be used.
2) Move Action, used to move.
3) Minor action, used to do small stuff, like draw a weapon, or use powers that require minor actions to be used.
Actions can be traded down. You can trade a standard action into a move action, and a move action into a minor action.
So during your turn you can move twice and do a minor action, or make a standard and two minor actions, or make 3 minor actions.
Action Points give you a standard action to be used. You can trade this one down as well, but it still only gives the standard action, not all 3 actions.
Charge is a standard action that lets you move your full speed, and then make a basic melee attack. After the attack you can't do anything, not even minor actions, so Charge should be the last thing you do during your turn.
So please, everyone check your powers in your sheet and look what actions they require to be used.
If the powers are at-will, you can use them each turn, encounter powers once per encounter, and daily powers once per day, don't confuse them with what actions they need to be activated with.
For Longclaw, for instance:
Standard actions are used to do a twin strike (attack twice), a Fading Strike (attack once and shift away), and most Encounter and Daily Powers.
Move Actions are used to move.
Minor Actions are used to designate the hunter's quarry, to withdraw weapons (since I can draw them as free actions, thanks to being a ranger and having the ruby scabbard), and to activate razorclaf shifting once I've become bloodied.
Sorry Thawmus, it just irks me when people have to tell to another team member during combat what they should do when they make ineffective or illegal actions. I've noticed it a few times in the past fights, and wanted to clear my mind.
Nah, you're fine.
Btw, I read up on your Hunter Style, and you actually sheathe whatever you have out for free, too. So, no more dropping your #### on the ground. :laugh:
m_a_caque
07/22/2011, 08:28
about that star wars game... there is no release date yet. it is speculated to be between oct and dec...
and it is made by bioware
can you do actions in any order? ie. do my minor action then Charge? that way i don't lose my minor. :grin:
can you do actions in any order? ie. do my minor action then Charge? that way i don't lose my minor. :grin:
Yes.
And you are correct about wanting to do that before charging.
Ouchmaker
07/22/2011, 19:14
For instance during my turn I will do my Move Action first so that I can then use my Minor Action to Hunter's Quarry the closest enemy (moving sideways for instance to pick the right guy to deal extra damage to instead of the guy that was closest to me before I moved), and last I will use the Standard to actually attack.
I love the strategy part of combat, so that one gets the best out of their turn, dice rolls not included.
For instance during my turn I will do my Move Action first so that I can then use my Minor Action to Hunter's Quarry the closest enemy (moving sideways for instance to pick the right guy to deal extra damage to instead of the guy that was closest to me before I moved), and last I will use the Standard to actually attack.
I love the strategy part of combat, so that one gets the best out of their turn, dice rolls not included.
Sometime I will show you how my Avenger manages 4 attacks in one round, by using his action point and a bunch of obscure minor action Encounter Attack Powers.
Ouchmaker
07/23/2011, 00:05
Is it okay if I bought a short sword before leaving Prime? If so, then I'd have:
Targeting Longbow +1 (the enchantment that was taken from the Greatbow)
Greatbow
Longsword
Short sword
Ruby Scabbard
hide armor
Bracers of Archery
daggers, arrows, etc.
Those should be my items at this point.
Is it okay if I bought a short sword before leaving Prime? If so, then I'd have:
Targeting Longbow +1 (the enchantment that was taken from the Greatbow)
Greatbow
Longsword
Short sword
Ruby Scabbard
hide armor
Bracers of Archery
daggers, arrows, etc.
Those should be my items at this point.
Yep, that's fine.
You guys got 150 XP from last night's impromptu skill challenge.
I ended up making Thawmus for the lvl 20 game last night.
He's a Ranger with two Waraxes. One of which is a Planesplitter, allowing him to open up holes in space. (Future Treasure hint?)
But, yeah, he has some Barbarian Multiclassing, and just really ####s people up pretty badly. He has a daily attack that does 5 attacks. If all 5 attacks were to crit, and he were to max out on all the damage dice (This would never happen, btw. The odds are too far out there), he can deal somewhere around 600 damage.
Which I think is just tremendous.
m_a_caque
07/25/2011, 16:14
duuth could do 96 damage in one sword burst.... to 8 enemies... yeah only 12 dmg each.
I think I have determined that I no longer like the "Twice damage, half hit points" idea for speeding up combat.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I never intended to do that with this group anyways. But I am quickly becoming a non-fan, the more games I am in where it is occurring.
If you think that "twice damage, half hit points" is a balanced trade-off, and doesn't affect the basic functionality of other game elements, you're kidding yourself.
Wouldn't that make encounters 4x as fast...?
Wouldn't that make encounters 4x as fast...?
2x.....theoretically....if you do hobo math.
You only affect monster stats. So the monsters all do double damage, and they have half their hit points.
The problem is, lots of stuff is built around the idea that your character can weather X amount of hits, and that they will need to provide X damage to take a guy out.
Take my Avenger, for example.
He doesn't have multi-target attacks. He's a single-target striker. His main class feature won't even work if he's engaging multiple people. On top of this, his other main class feature is "Censure of Retribution". It allows him to pump up his damage for every hit he takes from the wrong people. This is supposed to both serve as a damage booster, and a deterrent to the DM, giving him incentive not to swarm that player.
With monsters doing double-damage, and having half their hit points, this character no longer functions the way he should. Censure of Retribution is no longer a deterrent. He can kill any of them in one turn, boosted or not. He no longer wants to be hit by any of them. 3 hits are sufficient to knock him out, if not kill him outright. After taking someone out, he is typically swarmed and knocked out in an instant. Better to knock him out, than deal with boosted damage, right? Right.
There are groups that I could see it working for, but for parties that have a lot of single-target attackers, I see it being a real frustration-fest for players. Which is pretty much where I'm at. I am most likely going to have to retire my Avenger now, which I'm not terribly happy about.
I do not ever intend to invalidate a particular build in my game, for my own preferences. While I do feel that my fun is extremely important, I can have fun a variety of ways. Having long combats? Eh. Whatever. Not worth ruining people's characters over.
m_a_caque
07/28/2011, 12:47
i take twice damage half hit points is one of your other games, and not our game? i'm n00b.
i take twice damage half hit points is one of your other games, and not our game? i'm n00b.
That is correct.
For the record, I don't think any DM who does this does it with malicious intent. I just think it's done without full consideration for the effect it has on the game.
Hey guys, just letting you all know I'm back from vacation(s) again and available should a sub be required :)
Hey guys, I'm going to have to postpone for next week.
I'm really sorry about the ####ty notice. I'm gonna have to get up pretty early tomorrow morning to leave town, and staying up tonight is a bad idea. Not something I was planning on doing this weekend, believe me. :disappointed:
Anywho, to make it up to you guys, I'll happily get on between 8 and 9 tonight (2:30 from now) and we can make a silly character together, and we can make sure all your character sheets are ironed out, etc. I know Ouch has been asking me for something every week for a while now, I don't know if anyone else needs anything.
charlesx
07/29/2011, 18:49
Hey guys, I'm going to have to postpone for next week.
I'm really sorry about the ####ty notice. I'm gonna have to get up pretty early tomorrow morning to leave town, and staying up tonight is a bad idea. Not something I was planning on doing this weekend, believe me. :disappointed:
Anywho, to make it up to you guys, I'll happily get on between 8 and 9 tonight (2:30 from now) and we can make a silly character together, and we can make sure all your character sheets are ironed out, etc. I know Ouch has been asking me for something every week for a while now, I don't know if anyone else needs anything.
No worries, Thawmus. RL gets in the way every once in a while. I completely understand - and if it makes you feel any better I am not disappointed due to the fact that I am exhausted. In other words, I appreciate the occasional chance to turn in early. Yeah, I know that I am girlie like that but there you have it....
Ouchmaker
07/29/2011, 19:19
Hey guys, I'm going to have to postpone for next week.
I'm really sorry about the ####ty notice. I'm gonna have to get up pretty early tomorrow morning to leave town, and staying up tonight is a bad idea. Not something I was planning on doing this weekend, believe me. :disappointed:
Anywho, to make it up to you guys, I'll happily get on between 8 and 9 tonight (2:30 from now) and we can make a silly character together, and we can make sure all your character sheets are ironed out, etc. I know Ouch has been asking me for something every week for a while now, I don't know if anyone else needs anything.
Figured as much. Was really contemplating going to Ropecon (finnish roleplaying con, full of board and card games too) this weekend. At the last minute decided not to go since I didn't get a ride there, and don't have the money to really spend on it right now, and because I remembered we were going into a fight in this session. And now this. Just my luck. :p
Roughly 8 hours from now, right? It's hard for me to keep it straight when I don't stay in the same time zone.
Also, was there an extended rest since the last encounter?
Have we divvied up the swag from the last encounter yet, either?
Ouchmaker
08/05/2011, 13:39
Roughly 8 hours from now, right? It's hard for me to keep it straight when I don't stay in the same time zone.
Also, was there an extended rest since the last encounter?
Have we divvied up the swag from the last encounter yet, either?
Considering how you were there the last time we had a session, you should know. :p
charlesx
08/05/2011, 15:16
Game on tonight! Woo!!
While we short rest I'm going to use Comrades' Succor and replenish the 6 healing surges I've used. I'm going to take 3 from Tyro and Armstrong each (and Armstrong can eat the 1 surge cost for the ritual).
Anyone else need some healing surges?
Experience: 6678 xp
Party stuff thus far:
Party Gold Total: 3795 gp
+2470 silver pieces
+240 gp in jewels + 40 gp worth of jars
New rule:
From now on, if you are going to be late for a session, or not going to make it, it is your responsibility to either find a replacement for the night, or to ask one of the existing players to cover for you. This includes emailing that person your character sheet.
Failure to do so may very well result in your character dying.
Whether or not you have notified me that you are going to be gone or late, may heavily alter your character's fate, as well.
If your character dies in this fashion, you can most likely expect I won't allow you to make a new one, nor resurrect him/her.
Obviously, super special circumstances will get a pass (I was mugged in my driveway! I couldn't make it!), but otherwise, yeah, my patience is gone now.
charlesx
08/10/2011, 08:02
Hey fellas, I will be out of town on August 26. I am travelling to Califonia that whole week and will be unable to play.
If Melkhor is available, would you mind running Calcifer for me, please?
Or, if anyone else would be willing to do so - please LMK and I'll shoot you over the character sheet that same week.
Thanks!
How did everyone feel about their first encounter with creatures from the Far Realm? :devious:
Good thing Thawmus was there.
(Even if we were down two party members.)
Good thing Thawmus was there.
(Even if we were down two party members.)
Eh, he didn't really do anything. I threw in three lvl 15 monsters for him to fight the whole encounter. He was never intended to engage your enemies at all, nor vice versa.
Though if someone had tried to help him, I can't promise it wouldn't have hurt. :confused:
I was mad the Septarch ruined my plan to stick a bunch of the abyssal creatures in a cloud of poisonous bunnies and trap them in a wall, dealing lots of free damage.
And really the Septarch being a dick was Ouch's fault anyway. :cheeky:
charlesx
08/10/2011, 18:14
How did everyone feel about their first encounter with creatures from the Far Realm? :devious:
Not great. But I would have felt a whooooooole lot better had we had two other party members ready to whup ###.
Just saying....:laugh:
Okay, everybody. Time for some more changing of things.
1st off, Alex is quitting, and is retiring Armstrong. He has fallen asleep twice now during gametime, and cannot continue. He is working long days, and falls asleep when he gets home, and just can't stay awake for the late night gaming. He wants to play, and he likes playing with you guys a lot, but he just can't swing it. He is hopeful that some day he can rejoin, especially when he is in college and needs a break on a weekend or something, but for now, he's out.
2ndly, I kinda agree with him. The late gametime sucks. What's more, I don't know why we have it when we do. I tried pushing it back as far as I could, and it seems that (and keep in mind I'm not blaming anyone or saying anyone's being inconsiderate when I say this) those I am trying to accommodate by doing so, aren't really being accommodated real well in the process anyways. The east coasters are showing up late and falling asleep during sessions anyways. I'm finding myself yawning during sessions, and I'm the one in charge of making sure things are snappy. And even furthermore, especially if Melk joins us, we have two people across the pond who are up at like 3 in the morning when we start. Which I'm sure does wonders for their health.
3rdly, and I am going to hurt some feelings here, but being gentle about this is insufficient in addressing the problem - this Saturday will mark the 1 year anniversary of when I first started signups for this game. And I am still teaching the basics. Like movement, and actions, and that you have to be next to someone to perform melee attacks (Something I find inexcusable for Heroclix veterans). There are some of you that are grasping the system very well, and there are some that are not. And it's pretty evident that the ones who are, are interested throughout the week, and are spending their own time learning the game outside of sessions, and the ones who aren't are coming into sessions like they're a blank slate, and have never played before, and were we playing this week? I am not going to name names, but some people are getting dangerously close to just not being allowed to play, because I am fed up and tired of teaching them things I, and their peers, have taught them every week for the past year. It's one thing when I'm annoyed. I'm a grumpy jerk. When other people are annoyed, something needs to change. It's my job to make sure nobody's annoyed.
Some things I want to do:
1. We have 5 players now. Combats and such are taking forever as it is, and I am now kinda loathe to make this a party of 6 again. I'd like to keep it at 5 and see how it goes for a bit. That means I'm putting less monsters on the board, so I'm taking shorter turns, too.
2. Some people are going to be required to play an Essentials class if they don't put some time into learning the system, and their character, outside of game time, and start learning how to play. We're reaching the one year mark. We're way beyond me needing to tell you how the Hit and Effect lines work on your power cards. You should have this stuff down by now. I shouldn't have to question every move you make, because you have probably got it wrong. I need to be able to trust you guys that you understand how your character's stuff works. If it's not there, I'm going to give you a character who has less stuff.
3. We need to change our starting time, and potentially the day we're going to play. My availability:
Sunday afternoons
Monday nights
Friday nights
Saturday mornings
Saturday afternoons
Please let me know what you're currently available for.
4. We maybe need to give up on D&D, and do some other RPG instead, like Deadlands or Gamma World. Or, someone else could try DMing, and I could play with you guys and be of more help to you that way. Or, we could reboot the campaign, with everyone getting new characters, starting fresh in Eberron, and getting the characters they want from the get-go. I would even be willing to award double XP until you hit level 5 again, so that you got there quickly enough.
5. Anything you guys can come up with for ideas on how to improve our game, so that there's less overall tiredness, more excitement and interest, and a better understanding of the rules.
I could do Sunday afternoons and possibly Saturday afternoons.
Weeknights are a likely impossibility.
I could do Sunday afternoons and possibly Saturday afternoons.
Weeknights are a likely impossibility.
Does that mean Friday does not work anymore either?
Fridays should be of a similar situation to before.
Which means subject to unforeseen obligations, but much better than the other weeknights.
Ouchmaker
08/11/2011, 03:37
Fridays and weekends work, generally. Friday nights probably best, but I could see Sunday afternoons working too.
charlesx
08/11/2011, 07:49
Unfortunately, my schedule prevents me from gaming in any time slot other than Friday nights. My weekends are never my own and any "me" time has to be planned weeks in advance. During the week, I get up at 5:00am to go to work, so staying up late is pretty much out of the question.
That having been stated, I readily own up to being one of the "problem children" in the group. I have fallen asleep at the wheel occasionally and spending time outside of gameplay delving deeper into game mechanics is very difficult (which is a problem that I have with any gaming in general, including Heroclix.) It probably sounds like a bad excuse, but it's a fact that I can't spend much more time on personal hobbies. Stan was in a similar situation and he decided to quit - which is probably an option that I should have considered in some instances. The truth is that I like the group, I like the way that the campaign is being run, and I enjoy playing my character.
Ths is what I can offer:
1. While I can't change gaming nights, I am willing to start earlier on Fridays. My kids' bedtime during the Summer is later than usual but these days my mother-in-law is staying with us due to my wife's recent surgery. This gives me a little more flexibility to hop online earlier.
2. I am willing to change my character to an Essentials class, if the concensus is that I am taking too long to get my turns underway or that I still have too little a grasp of everything that I can do.
3. I don't expect my personal schedule to be accommodated to the detriment of the group, so I also offer to step down. No hard feelings if the majority feels that a new time/day is better for everyone's schedules.
Having been a DM in days gone by, I can appreciate the hard work and the hours that go into creating and running scenarios, the frustration when the same level of commitment is not there on both sides of the table, and (sometimes) the weariness of carrying the responsibility for the whole group when the group is not necessarily appreciative of it.
The bottom line is that gaming should be fun for all involved. When it stops being fun and starts feeling more like tedious work or just plain a hassle, something must be done. I hope that we can find a way for the gaming group to continue - even if it means that I have to take some time off for a month or two.
Those are my two cents on the matter, gentlemen.
Charles, let's do a couple of things, before we talk quitting:
1. I agree, an Essentials character would do you some good. I think your 2.0 brain will wrap around that easier anyways. :) I also think that, with the way you focus on healing and doing melee basics, a Warpriest might be the best fit for you. I'm going to give that a look over today, and tell you more. You would need to play a completely new character, though. While I could swing some things changing for Calcifer, going from a Mercenary to a Divine character is kinda hard to swallow.
2. How much earlier are we talking? Currently we're starting at 8:00 Central, 9:00 Eastern. If we could start even as early as 7:00 Central, 8:00 Eastern, that would probably improve things a bit.
And, just so you understand, I understand why you're falling asleep at the wheel. I just don't want to keep pretending that's working for you.
Going with 5 adventurers instead of 6, and having me focus more on mini-combats than big 1-day combats, should help a little, too.
If you need still need a sub for the 26th Charles I'll definitely be available. As for time frame, I can generally work around that given enough prior warning (my sleeping schedule is incredibly flexible) and the only days that are dead out for me are Mondays, Wednesdays and Sundays.
Also, I can fully understand a desire to keep player population down (especially if there are still problems grasping powers and abilities as does indeed make combat drag on forever) so I'm not going to take it as any kind of personal slight if I don't get to jump in right away after someone quits. I'll still be around, waiting and watching for a moment of weakness to pounce.... err... did I say that out loud?
Anyways I'm still there when you need me, and if you do decide to "throw in the towel" and give up the spot behind the DM-screen just let me know. I'd be happy to take up the reigns there too ;)
Also, I can fully understand a desire to keep player population down (especially if there are still problems grasping powers and abilities as does indeed make combat drag on forever) so I'm not going to take it as any kind of personal slight if I don't get to jump in right away after someone quits. I'll still be around, waiting and watching for a moment of weakness to pounce.... err... did I say that out loud?
Anyways I'm still there when you need me, and if you do decide to "throw in the towel" and give up the spot behind the DM-screen just let me know. I'd be happy to take up the reigns there too ;)
I kinda thought you might, and it's appreciated. :)
In other news, I PMed Tyro, requesting that he consider playing a Cavalier, so he can go back to doing what he was doing originally, but as an Essentials class. Cavaliers use a "Defender Aura" instead of tracking marks, so he can just pile on with the Swordmage on protection, and they can dish out a lot of damage in way of Smiting people.
I guess.....
Okay, here's what I'm intending to do.
Tomorrow night, we won't have our session, or we will start it as soon as we are done with character creation. Start time currently depends on Charles' answer to my previous question.
We will start off by making Charles' new Warpriest.
Then, if Tyro makes an appearance, we will go Cavalier on his ###.
Following this, everyone else is allowed to change up their character as they desire. No retrain limit. If this means you play a completely different class than before, whatever, so long as it still can make sense. (For example, KC can be a different class than Druid, but he's pretty much stuck with Sentinel (which is a Leader Druid) or Shaman as options, as anything else deviates from his character quite severely.)
Or....if you want to scrap your character for a new one, that's fine, too.
How does that grab people?
charlesx
08/11/2011, 10:18
I don't have time for a lengthy response, but I can tell you the following:
1. As much as I like Calcifer, I am willing to change to War Priest for the good of the party. Although I did enjoy playing a Cavalier - in case that Tyro doesn't wanna go that route... Just one question - what level would I start at? (Sending me back to 1st might be a challenge, given the low level of support that I would be able to provide to the party. Also, I can go with a pre-generated character so that we don't have to spend a whole lot of time focussing on re-rolling a new one for me....)
2. A start time of 8:00pm Eastern would be do-able for me, at least for the foreseeable future. What about end time? Would that remain 12:00 midnight Eastern? I would be open to the idea, if so - particularly if the encounter is taking longer than expected.
3. Given that we are losing Alex, I'd vote for letting Melk come on board - either as DM or a new player. No matter how much we talk it through, personal schedules will come into play and it's better to have a slightly bigger pool of players than not. Just a thought.
Like I mentioned, more later.... after I attend an upcoming meeting and have a couple of minutes to come back to HCR.
I don't have time for a lengthy response, but I can tell you the following:
1. As much as I like Calcifer, I am willing to change to War Priest for the good of the party. Although I did enjoy playing a Cavalier - in case that Tyro doesn't wanna go that route... Just one question - what level would I start at? (Sending me back to 1st might be a challenge, given the low level of support that I would be able to provide to the party. Also, I can go with a pre-generated character so that we don't have to spend a whole lot of time focussing on re-rolling a new one for me....)
If you would rather play a different role entirely, and ask someone else to fill the Leader Role (which would then be vacant), that would be fine. That's a conversation we should have tomorrow night when we start.
New characters would start at the XP level you are all currently at, because I'm not keeping that stuff separate. So you would have a level 5 character. Rules for new character equipment is as follows:
1 magic item of level +1
1 magic item of level
1 magic item of level -1
Gold equal to the value of magic item at level -1, which can be spent immediately on other equipment.
So you would start at level 5, have a level 6 magic item, a level 5 magic item, and a level 4 magic item, and level 4 gold.
2. A start time of 8:00pm Eastern would be do-able for me, at least for the foreseeable future. What about end time? Would that remain 12:00 midnight Eastern? I would be open to the idea, if so - particularly if the encounter is taking longer than expected.
We will just make the end time between 11:00 and 12:00 Eastern. We'll play it by ear during that timeframe.
3. Given that we are losing Alex, I'd vote for letting Melk come on board - either as DM or a new player. No matter how much we talk it through, personal schedules will come into play and it's better to have a slightly bigger pool of players than not. Just a thought.
I'm already considering this, since it would add another veteran to the group, to help out.
Like I mentioned, more later.... after I attend an upcoming meeting and have a couple of minutes to come back to HCR.
YOU WILL QUIT YOUR JOB AND TALK TO ME!!!! :angry:
charlesx
08/11/2011, 10:42
YOU WILL QUIT YOUR JOB AND TALK TO ME!!!! :angry:
OK, I quit my job so I could talk to you. Happy now???
:laugh:
OK, I quit my job so I could talk to you. Happy now???
:laugh:
Not really. Now I just hate you for your irresponsibility.
charlesx
08/11/2011, 10:52
OK, back to my take on the new role.... This is what I enjoy about my character. I'd like a new one that has some of these features - or at least allows me to have similar stuff.
As Calcifer, I like being able to kick butt but the good of the party takes precedence. Hence, I like to be ready with an Inspiring Word and can forego an attack in order to help a party member. I also like the ability to have the opponent charge me so that my team members can get in multiple attacks on him. I am not one to hide and stand at the back of the action, though. I'd rather be in the front and doing battle, even if my melee abilities are basically more geared towards one-on-one rather than having a mass effect. I also like having high Diplomacy/Intimidation abilitiles and being in a position of leadership.
So if a War Priest allows me to do some of that, then I am go on the War Priest. Race does not make a whole lot of difference to me.
Like I mentioned, I have played Cavaliers in the past - but that is another role altogether. The way I see it, a Cavalier recklessly charges into the fray and lays down a whole lotta damage. Basically, he's more of a straight brick - although he fights better on a mount rather than on foot. The Cavalier is fun but less versatile than the War Priest. Is this a correct impression or not?
OK, back to my take on the new role.... This is what I enjoy about my character. I'd like a new one that has some of these features - or at least allows me to have similar stuff.
As Calcifer, I like being able to kick butt but the good of the party takes precedence. Hence, I like to be ready with an Inspiring Word and can forego an attack in order to help a party member. I also like the ability to have the opponent charge me so that my team members can get in multiple attacks on him. I am not one to hide and stand at the back of the action, though. I'd rather be in the front and doing battle, even if my melee abilities are basically more geared towards one-on-one rather than having a mass effect. I also like having high Diplomacy/Intimidation abilitiles and being in a position of leadership.
So if a War Priest allows me to do some of that, then I am go on the War Priest. Race does not make a whole lot of difference to me.
Like I mentioned, I have played Cavaliers in the past - but that is another role altogether. The way I see it, a Cavalier recklessly charges into the fray and lays down a whole lotta damage. Basically, he's more of a straight brick - although he fights better on a mount rather than on foot. The Cavalier is fun but less versatile than the War Priest. Is this a correct impression or not?
The similarities between the Cavalier in 2.0 to the 4.0 cavalier isn't really there. I mean, they do indeed dish out some damage, but they are a Defender class, and not a Striker. That being said, they have some impressive stuff, like the Smiting, and the level 5 daily attacks....wow. They get one that does 3W damage and makes the target's friends catch fire.
EDIT: They do have a bit better healing side than regular Paladins do, though. And their defender aura, I would argue, is better than the Divine Challenge normal Paladins have.
The Warpriest does a lot of what you already do, it's just focused where you're focused, and not where you're not. As you said, your main focus is helping the party, and that's the Warpriest's as well. But you also like to mix it up in melee combat otherwise, and he most definitely does that.
Whereas the Warlord....I haven't felt that he fits your playstyle for a long time, now. Warlords typically dish out a ton of damage, try and grant extra attacks and bonuses to allies for dishing out a ton of damage themselves, and then occasionally heal someone. Your focus has always been on healing first, messing someone else up second. Which is what Battle Clerics and Warpriests do, not Warlords. :)
Clerics in general have a mix of melee powers and short range powers. If you were to imagine a scale, Warpriests are firmly on the melee side for their mix. And they can dish out some damage, especially on undead creatures. They have their own smite power for them ####ers.
Here's a taste of Lvl 5 Daily attacks for the Warpriest:
Inspire Ferver:
2W damage, and each ally near you can shift 2 squares for free. If they are adjacent to the target after the shift, they go ahead and attack him for free, too.
Which makes Lamb to the Slaughter look like a kid's game. :laugh:
charlesx
08/11/2011, 12:29
Ok, I am sold on the War Priest. Is there an alignment restriction, or does it depend on the Deity that you choose? Like, do you have to be Lawful (whether Good, Evil, or Neutral)? Are you limited to using blunt objects? Is there a link to clerical spells so that I can start picking some out?
Let me know if there is anything I can do beforehand so as to minimize the impact of me taking the time to generate a new character prior to tomorrow's session.
(BTW, if Melk wants to take Calcifer for a spin during the next session, to ease the character out of the campaign - please go right on ahead and do so...)
Ok, I am sold on the War Priest. Is there an alignment restriction, or does it depend on the Deity that you choose? Like, do you have to be Lawful (whether Good, Evil, or Neutral)? Are you limited to using blunt objects? Is there a link to clerical spells so that I can start picking some out?
Let me know if there is anything I can do beforehand so as to minimize the impact of me taking the time to generate a new character prior to tomorrow's session.
(BTW, if Melk wants to take Calcifer for a spin during the next session, to ease the character out of the campaign - please go right on ahead and do so...)
I'll send you some ideas I have for taking Calcifer out of the campaign. I think you'll like them.
As for making choices...let me hit you up with that in a bit. I'm at lunch right now.
m_a_caque
08/11/2011, 12:34
Sunday afternoons---i watch nfl, so during that season, my attention may be less than stellar
Monday nights--bowling sept-may on mon night, i usually dont get home until after 9pm est
Friday nights--ok. 1hr earlier start also ok.
Saturday mornings--- do not exist. fallacy. saturdays start at noon.
Saturday afternoons--i wake up at the crack of noon, so afternoons are ok
generally i like my character, i know i have some powers i rarely use, but i'm not sure if that is lack of how to use the power, fear of wasting a daily, no opportunity to make a power work, or what.
if we start mixing essentials and non essential characters... will the equipment cause issues? i noticed most the "loot" we get has a "special" power
Sunday afternoons---i watch nfl, so during that season, my attention may be less than stellar
Monday nights--bowling sept-may on mon night, i usually dont get home until after 9pm est
Friday nights--ok. 1hr earlier start also ok.
Saturday mornings--- do not exist. fallacy. saturdays start at noon.
Saturday afternoons--i wake up at the crack of noon, so afternoons are ok
generally i like my character, i know i have some powers i rarely use, but i'm not sure if that is lack of how to use the power, fear of wasting a daily, no opportunity to make a power work, or what.
if we start mixing essentials and non essential characters... will the equipment cause issues? i noticed most the "loot" we get has a "special" power
Essentials don't use different equipment or anything like that.
Basically, Essentials classes just have less choices when they level up. About the only choices they usually have available are at level 1, and their feats. However, they do get new stuff at every level, just like everyone else. And the balance for having less stuff, is that their stuff is typically better. For example, the Cavalier is a better Paladin than most Paladin builds, but it is not as customized as a Paladin can be.
I also like the ability to have the opponent charge me so that my team members can get in multiple attacks on him.
...that didn't work out so hot for some of us you made charge last time. :noid:
If you retire Calcifer, can we divvy up his magic loot?
Following this, everyone else is allowed to change up their character as they desire. No retrain limit. If this means you play a completely different class than before, whatever, so long as it still can make sense. (For example, KC can be a different class than Druid, but he's pretty much stuck with Sentinel (which is a Leader Druid) or Shaman as options, as anything else deviates from his character quite severely.)
I think KC is pretty effective as he is and I'm pretty happy. The only thing I'd change is his squishiness, but I'm under the impression that that's not going to change much. (Unless Thawmus is a dirty liar)
The only thing I'd retrain is one of my Lvl 1 At-Wills, Grasping Claws, and switch it out for Savage Rend which can also be used as a Melee basic (but slides target 1 instead of slows).
So is the thought that we will have an actual session tomorrow or not? If it's a "play it by ear" thing tomorrow night I can do it, but I likely will be doing some work rather than just waiting online. In that case I'd appreciate a text to notify me or something...
If you retire Calcifer, can we divvy up his magic loot?
No. There are a few things, like the battle standards, that were group items, that I am fine with him handing to someone, but stuff like his ridiculous armor and sword, no.
I have both game balance and RP reasons for this.
I think KC is pretty effective as he is and I'm pretty happy. The only thing I'd change is his squishiness, but I'm under the impression that that's not going to change much. (Unless Thawmus is a dirty liar)
Yeah....Hide Armor is just hard to buff up. It can be done, and there are neat little side-bonuses you can get with it (Skins of the Slain comes to mind), but....
Primal classes usually don't have high defenses, in general. They typically boast more hit points than usual, and have a Defender overtone (Your damage reduction features can attest to this). Primal classes are a prime example of why I don't like Double Damage Half Hit Points and similar houserules, because it's pretty clear that some classes are built to take hits, and accept the idea that they'll regularly take them.
The only thing I'd retrain is one of my Lvl 1 At-Wills, Grasping Claws, and switch it out for the other one that could be used as a Melee basic.
That'd be fine.
So is the thought that we will have an actual session tomorrow or not? If it's a "play it by ear" thing tomorrow night I can do it, but I likely will be doing some work rather than just waiting online. In that case I'd appreciate a text to notify me or something...
It's character rebuilding night, followed by a session if we have time.
That's fine. I'll be doing some work so if we start, I can jump on. I will not be standing by on my computer though, so some other form of heads up would be appreciated.(text message)
I would guess our overseas cohorts would like some more solidity, though.
Speaking of character creation, and new characters, I know it's a lot of work (though it's actually a lot less than it looks like) but I personally like doing stuff like this for my characters:
http://www.sinenterprises.com/pandora/index.php?title=Tanya_Daggerdancer
That's fine. I'll be doing some work so if we start, I can jump on. I will not be standing by on my computer though, so some other form of heads up would be appreciated.(text message)
I would guess our overseas cohorts would like some more solidity, though.
I guess I'm confused.
Does GSC not work on your computer anymore?
Can you not just listen in while you're working?
I guess I'm confused.
Does GSC not work on your computer anymore?
Can you not just listen in while you're working?
You know my work doesn't involve computers most of the time.:p. This'll be one of those times.
Chaz can ring me, I think...?
charlesx
08/11/2011, 14:35
Chaz can ring me, I think...?
No prob. You'd better send me your phone number via PM so that I can add you to my contacts.
Also, I am texting you 'cause I don't wanna ring you while you're on the can - and it sounds to me like that's where you're doing your work that does not involve computers...:p
charlesx
08/11/2011, 14:39
If you retire Calcifer, can we divvy up his magic loot?
Hell no. I'm-a keepin' all of my magic swag. Let's face it - the Battle Standard doesn't get a lot of use anymore, anyway. Calcifer departs from the campaign with all of his items - though he has no problem leaving the loot behind. Thassall.
Tonight just freed up, the game was canceled due to the GM not making an appearance whatsoever.
So........we could maybe try and do the stuff we were going to do tomorrow night, right now?
charlesx
08/11/2011, 19:37
Tonight just freed up, the game was canceled due to the GM not making an appearance whatsoever.
So........we could maybe try and do the stuff we were going to do tomorrow night, right now?
In about an hour. yes.
Tonight just freed up, the game was canceled due to the GM not making an appearance whatsoever.
So........we could maybe try and do the stuff we were going to do tomorrow night, right now?
Nothing you need me for, right? Because I had sorta planned for some sleep fairly soon :)
Nothing you need me for, right? Because I had sorta planned for some sleep fairly soon :)
You are allowed to sleep.
For now.... :devious:
For reference in case I'm ever MIA, here's a link to my character sheet. Sound kosher?
King Cottontail (Lvl 5) (http://hotfile.com/dl/126556146/be6925c/King_Cottontail_Lvl_5.pdf.html)
Charles' new Dwarf Warpriest, to be properly named at a later date:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=11Hqvf0O4Q5dVfZuPnDl0-JXyUtd5SmYYArllcgaao5q_COcyyYlHpFvrumbE&hl=en_US
To clarify, he does not in fact have a throwing hammer at all. I added that weapon so that he knew what the stats for the weapon are if he decides to polymorph it into a throwing hammer and throw it.
All hail the craghammer.
Charles' new Dwarf Warpriest, to be properly named at a later date:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=11Hqvf0O4Q5dVfZuPnDl0-JXyUtd5SmYYArllcgaao5q_COcyyYlHpFvrumbE&hl=en_US
I volunteer "Stubs McGee."
[edit] After looking at it, I think Stubsy there looks like a great character build. That's an Essentials class character? It still looks like he'd still be using other At-Wills over the Melee Basic 100% of the time.
P.S. I'd use Smite Undead for my one Channel Divinity per encounter over Storm Surge about 99% of the time. ;)
charlesx
08/12/2011, 09:00
Get, you didn't PM me your phone number. You're not gonna get a text tonight unless you do so.
Also, I am still working on the name. I don't pull character names out of my rear end, like some people do (such as "King Cottontail", f'rinstance...)
I volunteer "Stubs McGee."
[edit] After looking at it, I think Stubsy there looks like a great character build. That's an Essentials class character? It still looks like he'd still be using other At-Wills over the Melee Basic 100% of the time.
P.S. I'd use Smite Undead for my one Channel Divinity per encounter over Storm Surge about 99% of the time. ;)
Yeah, that's an Essentials character.
And true enough, his at-wills are better than his melee basic, but I got him Melee Training anyways, so he can dish out opportunity attacks.
Did you like how he can use his second wind as a minor action, and have a +4 to his defenses when he does so?
Re: Smite Undead - I agree on using it over Storm Surge, but only if there are undead to smite. If there aren't, Storm Surge away.
Get, you didn't PM me your phone number. You're not gonna get a text tonight unless you do so.
Also, I am still working on the name. I don't pull character names out of my rear end, like some people do (such as "King Cottontail", f'rinstance...)
He did. I'll forward it to you. He probably fat-fingered the name or something.
Here is the plan tonight:
7:00 CST/8:00 EST/10 hours from now:
We will start our session. It will begin by making Tyro's Cavalier. I am going to have most of it done for him already, since there are few choices to make, and most of them have already been made for Tyronius in the past. I estimate something like 10 minutes to get 'er done.
Then, we will commence with the gaming.
m_a_caque
08/12/2011, 10:07
k.o. derf.
Untrue. Charles even responded to the pm I sent him.
Might have to do a neuro workup on Chaz for memory loss.
Not final, but a glimpse of Tyronius the Cavalier:
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1bEj9YJ4WS8iGbrS6Agi8cFaNLKc_JuKYRvqIIS_9YjNg_Mu8hlr6x7LisZMe&hl=en_US
charlesx
08/12/2011, 13:07
Untrue. Charles even responded to the pm I sent him.
Might have to do a neuro workup on Chaz for memory loss.
No kidding. I just checked my "sent" messages and there it was.
Good thing that I hit the sack early last night and caught up on my sleep...
Geez.
charlesx
08/12/2011, 13:08
Not final, but a glimpse of Tyronius the Cavalier:
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1bEj9YJ4WS8iGbrS6Agi8cFaNLKc_JuKYRvqIIS_9YjNg_Mu8hlr6x7LisZMe&hl=en_US
Cool. But shouldn't his name be "Sir Tyro"?
Or maybe "Sir Loinsteak"?
:laugh:
But seriously.
Look at that sheet and tell me he's not a total badass.
charlesx
08/12/2011, 13:16
But seriously.
Look at that sheet and tell me he's not a total badass.
Yeah, well, that 20 strength is quite an eye-opener. :)
Here's another suggestion: Sir Sl'lab Gib-neb.
Which, spelled backwards, is pronounced "Ben Big Balls, SIR"!
:laugh:
Yeah, well, that 20 strength is quite an eye-opener. :)
Here's another suggestion: Sir Sl'lab Gib-neb.
Which, spelled backwards, is pronounced "Ben Big Balls, SIR"!
:laugh:
I think Tyronius Flintstone is fine. It's not a new character. It's the same singing Paladin we've had all campaign, just going back to his roots. Smashing people with a sword and saying great stuff about Bahumet
Do we get to divvy up his magic items too? I remember a cape I had my eye on... :noid:
Do we get to divvy up his magic items too? I remember a cape I had my eye on... :noid:
What did I say last time? :cheeky:
What did I say last time? :cheeky:
...yes? That's what I remember at least.
Sheesh. I should be more selfish when we divvy up these items if they're just going to characters who leave the campaign that will eventually become my meaty necromanced flesh puppets. :cheeky:
...yes? That's what I remember at least.
I said "No".
Emphatically.
Sheesh. I should be more selfish when we divvy up these items if they're just going to characters who leave the campaign that will eventually become my meaty necromanced flesh puppets. :cheeky:
You make it sound like Calcifer and Tyronius have been loaded up with magic items.
This could not be further from the truth.
charlesx
08/12/2011, 13:53
I think that Calcifer's gonna take himself a lucky rabbit's foot to carry around with him, wherever he may go. Kind of like that head in a bag, just easier to tote.
:)
I can't wait to make undead flesh puppets.
KC would die a contented King if he could accomplish that. And he'd come back as a Lich of course.
:p
I can't wait to make undead flesh puppets.
KC would die a contented King if he could accomplish that. And he'd come back as a Lich of course.
:p
Gonna die discontent, then.
Ouchmaker
08/12/2011, 16:33
I can't wait to make undead flesh puppets.
KC would die a contented King if he could accomplish that.
:p
King is not a title, it's his first name. Like Baron or Duke, you know, names that fluffy mascots and pets have. Except you're like some old plank or a piece of bark.
Like this fellow:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090904052208/ed/images/2/26/Eddy_Plank.jpg
Hey! I don't tell you guys what your backstory is, do I?
:angry:
Lich. Necromancy (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drdd/20110323). It's in the future.
I'm expecting a huge long diatribe from Thawmus now that is delayed, so he fails to see the new necromancy link.
Mmm yum. (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drdd/20110323)
Ouchmaker
08/12/2011, 16:54
I'm expecting a huge long diatribe from Thawmus now that is delayed, so he fails to see the new necromancy link.
Mmm yum. (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drdd/20110323)
You're multiclassing into a wizard?
Somehow I think it would be frowned upon if I went straight necromancer. Evil-style.
Evil Lich style.
:noid:
Did you see Finger of Death, though? Summon Shadow Skeleton (/AKA Flesh Puppet)!
Hey! I don't tell you guys what your backstory is, do I?
:angry:
Lich. It's in the future.
No, they don't.
But I do.
(Never was a King of anything)
No, they don't.
But I do.
(Never was a King of anything)
:angry:
Then the reason why Thawmus has one eye is because of that night he tried to take his love for his spinning axe a wee bit too far.
BAM. Dictated.
IMPERIAL DECREE.
Somehow I think it would be frowned upon if I went straight necromancer. Evil-style.
Evil Lich style.
:noid:
Did you see Finger of Death, though? Summon Shadow Skeleton (/AKA Flesh Puppet)!
I would have no problem with a straight necromancer in my campaign. I like the school quite a bit, though I think it's hampered severely in contrast to Necromancy in 3.5, and probably not quite as much fun to play. Particularly because the system is inherently going to gut your actions pool if you want to summon an army of any kind.
I have a problem with evil player characters in my campaign.
I have a problem with non-Heroic player characters in my campaign.
I have a problem with non-Adventurous player characters in my campaign.
But if get_1 wants to make a new character, I will drop stuff to do it. Like I will excuse myself from work early, and drive over curbs to get home, to get that #### done.
:angry:
Then the reason why Thawmus has one eye is because of that night he tried to take his love for his spinning axe a wee bit too far.
BAM. Dictated.
IMPERIAL DECREE.
Hey, if it helps you sleep at night when you're sucking on your tree branch fur thumb, Wilden, by all means, decree at will.
I would have no problem with a straight necromancer in my campaign. I like the school quite a bit, though I think it's hampered severely in contrast to Necromancy in 3.5, and probably not quite as much fun to play. Particularly because the system is inherently going to gut your actions pool if you want to summon an army of any kind.
I have a problem with evil player characters in my campaign.
I have a problem with non-Heroic player characters in my campaign.
I have a problem with non-Adventurous player characters in my campaign.
Sooooo....Xykon?
:thumbsup?:
:thumbsdown?:
Sooooo....Xykon?
:thumbsup?:
:thumbsdown?:
Thumbs down.
He's evil.
This is where I think you have a major disconnect. You can have a player character that pursues power, or gives a piece of himself to the Shadowfell in return for power, who is not evil. And is Adventurous. And is Heroic. That is a thing that is not only easy to pull off, but a lot of fun.
Xykon is much cooler than the Punisher. :(
Xykon is much cooler than the Punisher. :(
Is he cooler than Conan?
You understand that Conan is a Hero and an Adventurer, while also being a complete son of a #####, right?
Ouchmaker
08/12/2011, 18:01
But if get_1 wants to make a new character, I will drop stuff to do it. Like I will excuse myself from work early, and drive over curbs to get home, to get that #### done.
Nice try. It was worth a shot anyways. :cheeky:
Ezio Auditore is a hero, and an assassin.
It's pretty easy.
I have a character who thirsts for power.
He runs into a band of characters who have a knack for running into powerful beings, and running over them like pancakes.
I befriend band of characters.
I become more powerful, the longer I spend time with them. I grow very loyal to the group, but I never give up on my quest for power.
I hit level 21, and start to become a Darklord, or an ArchLich, or a Prince of Hell. When the campaign ends, I take my seat of power, and am then thrown into some other jackass' campaign as the main villain.
Y'know, in case you haven't figured out what the hell Lord Odimous is. Considering the player for that character has down syndrome, I find it difficult to fathom why anyone can't figure this out, when he did. You can have a jackass in the party that doesn't #### with the party (And just royally and brutally murders the enemies of the party). It's not only possible, it also turns your guy into a total badass.
"Why do you have him as a companion? Do you not know of what he's done in the past?"
"We keep him around so you know we're serious."
Ouchmaker
08/12/2011, 18:46
"Why do you have him as a companion? Do you not know of what he's done in the past?"
"We keep him around so you know we're serious."
"Mordin: Have killed many, Shepard. Many methods. Gunfire, knives, drugs, tech attacks, once with farming equipment. But not with medicine."
"Mordin: Have killed many, Shepard. Many methods. Gunfire, knives, drugs, tech attacks, once with farming equipment. But not with medicine."
Mordin is the greatest dude ever.
“Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps.”
Only Mordin Solus could actually get me to think that genocide was a grey area.
Ouchmaker
08/12/2011, 19:58
Only Mordin Solus could actually get me to think that genocide was a grey area.
"Hard to see big picture behind pile of corpses."
Mordin is the greatest dude ever.
“Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps.”
Only Mordin Solus could actually get me to think that genocide was a grey area.
Doesn't sound like it would be too hard to convince you that maybe flesh puppets wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. :cheeky:
Doesn't sound like it would be too hard to convince you that maybe flesh puppets wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. :cheeky:
It won't be hard to convince me to turn all of you ####ers into flesh puppets if you don't show up soon! :angry:
Currently:
27/49 hp
Healing Surges: 9/10
+2 to defenses courtesy of Charles
Encounters Used:
Hand of Radiance
Stinging Cloud
I am heavily considering canceling this week.
I have been ill all week, and I haven't really been able to stay awake past 8:30 on any given evening thus far. And I've got a full day coming at me on Saturday.
On the other hand, I'm pretty excited about continuing where we left off.
Thoughts?
charlesx
08/18/2011, 10:02
On the other hand, I'm pretty excited about continuing where we left off.
Thoughts?
I too am looking forward to flexing some WarPriest muscles, but I concur that perhaps we should consider postponing. My wife and I are having family over on Friday night to celebrate my baby daughter's first birthday and the next day I have to be up with the break of dawn to attend the Baltimore Comic Con.
I will play if the group concensus is that we should have a session - but chances are that I will be late and won't be able to stay up. (Yes, I know that I am an old foagie.)
I too am looking forward to flexing some WarPriest muscles, but I concur that perhaps we should consider postponing. My wife and I are having family over on Friday night to celebrate my baby daughter's first birthday and the next day I have to be up with the break of dawn to attend the Baltimore Comic Con.
I will play if the group concensus is that we should have a session - but chances are that I will be late and won't be able to stay up. (Yes, I know that I am an old foagie.)
The Warpriest is freaking awesome.
Charles, aren't you going to be gone next week? I might be occupied by work too.
I can go either way tomorrow. I wouldn't mind if we cancelled anyway, since I'm very behind in my work this week.
Ouchmaker
08/18/2011, 23:04
So that's 3 saying that they wouldn't mind a break, but charles will be gone next week as well, will there be others with a 2 week no-game period coming? And charles, no matter how tired you are, can you handle a two week break from your new warpriest?
I have to say, when I started my level 20 character for Sundays, I seriously considered playing the Executioner, so I could play an Essentials class.
Essentials classes lack customization, but they make up for that easily with their effectiveness. I really don't think you can make a Battle Cleric that does what the Warpriest does as well as he does it. You might make him more your style, but he's not going to be as awesome.
i'm avail so i would be up for this. let me know tho. i can run my char as is tonite and check in with thawmy for updating it next week.
charlesx
08/19/2011, 09:49
And charles, no matter how tired you are, can you handle a two week break from your new warpriest?
I really want to play, don't get me wrong. I am really starting to get the feel for WarPriesting. It's just this little thing called RL that keeps getting in the way. :cool:
you should slaughter RL - that'd teach 'im.
I feel like #### today.
No session tonight.
Sorry, guys. :(
charlesx
08/19/2011, 10:30
I feel like #### today.
No session tonight.
Sorry, guys. :(
No worries, Thawm.
This is what happens when you get OLD.
(Happy 40th Birthday, by the way.)
:cheeky:
m_a_caque
08/19/2011, 17:51
I feel like #### today.
No session tonight.
Sorry, guys. :(
go drink until you feel better :)
go drink until you feel better :)
what he said, ditto :p
so i know Charles is out this week and wanted to know if this is another skip week. i want to know so i can make alternate plans. :)
so i know Charles is out this week and wanted to know if this is another skip week. i want to know so i can make alternate plans. :)
I'm planning on forging ahead, as I believe Melk is planning on filling in for him this week.
This is, of course, pending anyone else not being able to make it this week.
I'm itching to forge ahead, because I have....plans.
And other plans.
And other other plans.
And other other other plans.
And I think all those plans are pretty boss.
I'm planning on forging ahead, as I believe Melk is planning on filling in for him this week.
This is, of course, pending anyone else not being able to make it this week.
I'm itching to forge ahead, because I have....plans.
And other plans.
And other other plans.
And other other other plans.
And I think all those plans are pretty boss.
Sure, I should be able to make it no problem :)
For reference in case I'm ever MIA, here's a link to my character sheet. Sound kosher?
King Cottontail (Lvl 5) (http://hotfile.com/dl/126556146/be6925c/King_Cottontail_Lvl_5.pdf.html)
Currently:
27/49 hp
Healing Surges: 9/10
+2 to defenses courtesy of Charles
Encounters Used:
Hand of Radiance
Stinging Cloud
Quoted for ease of reference on Friday, just in case.
@Charles, I know you're going to be gone...but we need to know your HP after the last encounter and healing surges used. Also which Encounters/Dailies you've already used (though I think I/we can figure that out).
m_a_caque
08/26/2011, 10:26
i have no hurricane to contend with yet. i'm good to go tonight.
Ouchmaker
08/26/2011, 12:45
i have no hurricane to contend with yet. i'm good to go tonight.
You have my bow.
No, wait, you don't. Because I need it tonight.
thawmy what was that site for dice rolling? tho, i have to admit i kinda like really rolling the dice. :p but i'll switch for expediancy sake.
thawmy what was that site for dice rolling? tho, i have to admit i kinda like really rolling the dice. :p but i'll switch for expediancy sake.
I use dicetool. http://www.rptools.net/index.php?page=launch
Ouchmaker
08/26/2011, 14:24
So, we starting in 5˝ hours, or 6˝ hours?
So, we starting in 5˝ hours, or 6˝ hours?
5˝ hours!!!
Hey Thawm, mind sending me updated sheet and/or macros where available for the character you need me subbing for tonight?
Here is the Dwarf Warpriest you'll be covering tonight:
Charles' new Dwarf Warpriest, to be properly named at a later date:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=11Hqvf0O4Q5dVfZuPnDl0-JXyUtd5SmYYArllcgaao5q_COcyyYlHpFvrumbE&hl=en_US
To clarify, he does not in fact have a throwing hammer at all. I added that weapon so that he knew what the stats for the weapon are if he decides to polymorph it into a throwing hammer and throw it.
All hail the craghammer.
I know he's used: Nimbus of Holy ... (Daily), Thundering Steel (Encounter), 1x Healing Word. Inspire Fervor (Daily) maaaaay have been used, I can't quite remember.
I do not know the Dwarf's current HP after we finished up the last encounter, nor whether or not he's used any healing surges. I was hoping CharlesX would have checked in and given us that info.
Ugh... Essentials. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers and all that I suppose
Ugh... Essentials. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers and all that I suppose
What's wrong with Essentials??
What's wrong with Essentials??
If I say "DnD for Dummies" will it be considered horribly offensive? :cheeky:
If I say "DnD for Dummies" will it be considered horribly offensive? :cheeky:
I dunno.
From a character building perspective, yes, they're overly simple. And since I like character building, that takes some enjoyment away from me. And the Slayer is the most boring looking thing ever. But in actual play? Eh, I think they're great.
39/49 HP :: 4 healing surges left
7148 xp
m_a_caque
08/29/2011, 09:08
before i forget. i will be traveling this friday and unavailable to play.
charlesx
08/29/2011, 09:55
If I say "DnD for Dummies" will it be considered horribly offensive? :cheeky:
Who you callin' a dummy, Willis???
:cheeky:
I like my Essentials just fine, don't you know! :cool:
m_a_caque
08/29/2011, 10:50
my swordmage is not an essentials. if melk wants to play him on friday. i could even try to send my macros...
charlesx
08/29/2011, 10:52
After a two-week hiatus, I am ready for this week's D&D gaming session.
(My only regret is that I won't get the chance to play with m_a_caque...)
Essentials hate is pretty silly, IMHO.
I'm glad they exist, because I know players that totally can't handle more than a Slayer.
I won't be able to make it this Friday, most likely. If it turns out we have a session, here's my stuff and everything you should need to know:
39/49 HP :: 4 healing surges left
2 Action Points
Racial Aspect Choice: Voyage of the Ancients (Encounter Power)
7148 xp
King Cottontail (Lvl 5) (http://hotfile.com/dl/126556146/be6925c/King_Cottontail_Lvl_5.pdf.html)
My macros: http://hotfile.com/dl/128474334/c85c445/DD_Dice.xml.html
I should be available to sub in alright, and macros are always appreciated :)
And I don't mind Essentials *existing* as such, I just don't want to *play* them if I can avoid it. I so dislike "cookie-cutter" character creation, but that's just my own personal bias and elitism shining through :)
Still had a good time taking care of Grond for you Charles, and I'd like to think I did an okay job handling him (despite having to duck out semi-early) too
Ouchmaker
08/31/2011, 07:13
I can play with KC along with Longclaw this Friday. :devious:
"Noo, you silly bunny, don't jump into the hellfire, nooooo!"
m_a_caque
08/31/2011, 09:10
i will have to check, but i think my char sheets are on the GSC server.
how would i share my macros from GT? i think it is an .xml file (saved on my home computer at the moment, and i'm at work)
I should be available to sub in alright, and macros are always appreciated :)
And I don't mind Essentials *existing* as such, I just don't want to *play* them if I can avoid it. I so dislike "cookie-cutter" character creation, but that's just my own personal bias and elitism shining through :)
Still had a good time taking care of Grond for you Charles, and I'd like to think I did an okay job handling him (despite having to duck out semi-early) too
I nominate Melkhor to care for my bunny. :sleep:
m_a_caque
09/01/2011, 05:44
http://hotfile.com/dl/128570430/c0150f9/dice_macros.xml.html
i have used 5 surges. at full health. i have not used any daily powers yet.
http://www.fileswap.com/share/?id=SVjnurpX
Ouchmaker
09/01/2011, 08:15
I nominate Melkhor to care for my bunny. :sleep:
I believe Melkhor is busy handling macaque's character.
Looks like your fate belongs to me! :devious:
charlesx
09/01/2011, 10:03
I vote that for the upcoming session we should have a new marching order.
KC walks at least 50 feet ahead of the party, making as much noise as possible and lit up so as to be clearly visible in the dark. The rest of us will follow from a safe distance.
:cheeky:
Ouchmaker
09/01/2011, 10:59
I vote that for the upcoming session we should have a new marching order.
KC walks at least 50 feet ahead of the party, making as much noise as possible and lit up so as to be clearly visible in the dark. The rest of us will follow from a safe distance.
:cheeky:
I like this plan. And when KC has discovered trouble, i.e. is surrounded by zombies, I can use my elemental spirits to properly lit him, and the zombies, on fire. Sure, it won't do much against the zombies, but when they're on fire, we should be able to see them more easily in the dark.
I vote that for the upcoming session we should have a new marching order.
KC walks at least 50 feet ahead of the party, making as much noise as possible and lit up so as to be clearly visible in the dark. The rest of us will follow from a safe distance.
:cheeky:
I already do that. That's why I'm down so many healing surges.
:nervous:
The bigger members of our party should try going first.
I already do that. That's why I'm down so many healing surges.
:nervous:
The bigger members of our party should try going first.
I agree. I'll spawn monsters at the rear from now on.
charlesx
09/01/2011, 17:17
I agree. I'll spawn monsters from my rear from now on.
But don't you do that already after having a spicy Mexican taco salad, senyor????
:laugh:
But don't you do that already after having a spicy Mexican taco salad, senyor????
:laugh:
Guess what happens when you make homemade hot wings, 4 days in a row?
Nothing. Nothing at all. Because I'm awesome. And not old. :cheeky:
charlesx
09/01/2011, 17:25
Geez, I almost forgot it was your birthday, Thawm olde chum.
Happy 40th Birthday!!!
:cool:
Hope that you get a new colon to go with those 4 days' worth of hot wings!!!:laugh:
I just wanted to say how extremely disappointed I am to be missing tomorrow.
It's our first real "dungeon crawl" type experience (at least in my memory) and it promises to be even more interesting this Friday than it was the last.
I only hope those dozens of bottles of blood wine KC has in rucksack will come in handy... :cheeky:
I just wanted to say how extremely disappointed I am to be missing tomorrow.
It's our first real "dungeon crawl" type experience (at least in my memory) and it promises to be even more interesting this Friday than it was the last.
I only hope those dozens of bottles of blood wine KC has in rucksack will come in handy... :cheeky:
I realized why I'm struggling in the games I'm playing now, and adjusted our game accordingly.
My DMs feel that our combats last too long, and have adjusted for that by doing things like "Double damage, half hit points" for monsters, having monsters do average damage at all times, etc etc. When, really, the primary cause is that they're always doing these once-per-day combat encounters. And in order to make those encounters worthwhile, you have to amp up the difficulty. Amping up the difficulty means it's a longer encounter to get through.
When we switched this to an Eberron campaign, I said that we would be focusing more on roleplay than we had in the past, and that we'd be doing less random combat encounters, and more dungeon encounters. Well, lately I've been putting you guys through daily encounters, lots of roleplay, and none of the dungeon encounters that I enjoy making, and that I feel most enjoy playing.
So, I decided it was about time we cut that bull####.
Ouchmaker
09/02/2011, 22:57
Good news every.... wait, good news get_1! KC didn't die. He went down to 5 hp and spent most of the encounter either immobilized or stunned or both.
Now at 7308xp
You have all encounter and daily powers, you have used 5 healing surges, at full health.
Well, he used a few of those surges.
Some of them were stolen from him.
Because Wights are a complete dick move on your DM's part. :devious:
Also, public announcement, especially for those not here tonight:
Next week I will be attending a wedding, and it sounds like a few others won't be around either. So our next session will be two weeks from now.
My apologies about not being able to step in last night. Unfortunately, my computer decided to die on me (systems drive suffered a fatal hardware error) so there really wasn't much I could do :(
I'm having it repaired at the moment (writing this from a library computer) so hopefully it won't happen again... anytime soon.
Also, public announcement, especially for those not here tonight:
Next week I will be attending a wedding, and it sounds like a few others won't be around either. So our next session will be two weeks from now.
Congratulations! Enjoy the honeymoon! ;)
Good news every.... wait, good news get_1! KC didn't die. He went down to 5 hp and spent most of the encounter either immobilized or stunned or both.
Now at 7308xp
You have all encounter and daily powers, you have used 5 healing surges, at full health.
This will most likely require some explaining at a later date...
Ouchmaker
09/03/2011, 14:26
This will most likely require some explaining at a later date...
Nothing to explain, you should be thanking me. a Ghoul was ready to pummel you to death, with you being immob'd and stunned, and Longclaw stepped in to intercept the attack, causing it to miss. You don't seem very thankful of that.
Explaining as in more than just short, cursory excerpts about what happened throughout last night's session. ;)
Ouchmaker
09/03/2011, 20:34
Explaining as in more than just short, cursory excerpts about what happened throughout last night's session. ;)
We stayed in the same room, barricaded the doors with the tables in order to sleep through the night, each one having a turn at watch. In the morning 2 ghouls and 2 wights came bursting down the door.
You were first attacked by a wight that stole a healing surge from you, and then a ghoul came to immobilize you. All of us pretty much missed our first attacks. You actually hit only once during the encounter. Duuth and tyro attacked the other ghoul and the other wight, while Grond and Longclaw attacked the other wight.
Eventually both the ghouls were determined to kill you, but thanks to a few friendly spells, not to mention Longclaw dealing a critical hit and interrupting one of the ghouls made sure you stayed among the living. Eventually the rest chased the last remaining wight down a staircase, killing him before he could escape.
And the wights and ghouls were attacking with like 23+ against AC when hitting, so your AC had little to help when they were determined to hit you.
We stayed in the same room, barricaded the doors with the tables in order to sleep through the night, each one having a turn at watch. In the morning 2 ghouls and 2 wights came bursting down the door.
You were first attacked by a wight that stole a healing surge from you, and then a ghoul came to immobilize you. All of us pretty much missed our first attacks. You actually hit only once during the encounter. Duuth and tyro attacked the other ghoul and the other wight, while Grond and Longclaw attacked the other wight.
Eventually both the ghouls were determined to kill you, but thanks to a few friendly spells, not to mention Longclaw dealing a critical hit and interrupting one of the ghouls made sure you stayed among the living. Eventually the rest chased the last remaining wight down a staircase, killing him before he could escape.
And the wights and ghouls were attacking with like 23+ against AC when hitting, so your AC had little to help when they were determined to hit you.
Metagame Labs says their bonus was +10 and +12, respectively. ;)
Which means that they have less than a 50% chance of hitting Duuth or Grond or Tyronius.
Ouchmaker
09/04/2011, 23:12
Metagame Labs says their bonus was +10 and +12, respectively. ;)
Which means that they have less than a 50% chance of hitting Duuth or Grond or Tyronius.
So it's because KC has useless points in Charisma.
So it's because KC has useless points in Charisma.
I wouldn't say that.
Primal characters, in general, have really really bad AC, and ridiculous HP. It's one of the reasons that he gets damage reduction, and has more hit points than most controllers can boast.
That being said, Controllers have ####ty defenses in general.
I mean, I have a hard time building a Wizard whose AC isn't 15 or 16.
m_a_caque
09/06/2011, 15:50
yay. sounds like i didnt die.
I wouldn't say that.
Primal characters, in general, have really really bad AC, and ridiculous HP. It's one of the reasons that he gets damage reduction, and has more hit points than most controllers can boast.
Yeah, Ouch. That's why staying in giant Bunny Form is useful. :p
Yeah, Ouch. That's why staying in giant Bunny Form is useful. :p
Swarm of Bunnies.
Or else I can just take the damage reduction away, since it doesn't make sense otherwise. ;)
Swarm of Bunnies.
Or else I can just take the damage reduction away, since it doesn't make sense otherwise. ;)
Can't be called Swarm of Bunnies. That's what my Blast 3 At-Will in Bunny Form is called. It's on the character card!
charlesx
09/07/2011, 08:46
yay. sounds like i didnt die.
I always do my best to protect m_a_caque.
:cool:
Can't be called Swarm of Bunnies. That's what my Blast 3 At-Will in Bunny Form is called. It's on the character card!
Mass of Bunnies?
"Giant Mass of Multiple Bunnies in the Shape of One Big Bunny" is kind of a mouthful. :cheeky:
"Giant Bunny Form." It just rolls off the tongue.
"Giant Mass of Multiple Bunnies in the Shape of One Big Bunny" is kind of a mouthful. :cheeky:
"Giant Bunny Form." It just rolls off the tongue.
"Bunnies Form"
We'll have to miss again this week, as well, guys.
I am going to be working late on Friday, and I'm not really sure when I'll get home.
m_a_caque
09/14/2011, 11:02
have fun.... ?
have fun.... ?
Likely won't.
Gonna be out at a farm show, taking down radio equipment. :tired:
Ouchmaker
09/14/2011, 11:34
This is how I imagine KC's reaction to this:
f5cL-h3Pj1o
charlesx
09/14/2011, 12:14
We'll have to miss again this week, as well, guys.
I am going to be working late on Friday, and I'm not really sure when I'll get home.
Thanks for the advance notice. It's a bummer, but you gotta do what you gotta do, olde chum. Even if it involves being at a farm show.
(Edit: Moooooooooo....)
:cheeky:
Good session last night, guys. Thanks to Melkhor for stepping up and subbing in for Longclaw.
And in light of last night, it might be best not to have as soft a character as Longclaw leading the way in dark places. That Chole Dragon did not treat him well. Our own big fat dragon would have been a better choice. :p
Ouchmaker
09/17/2011, 14:23
Good session last night, guys. Thanks to Melkhor for stepping up and subbing in for Longclaw.
And in light of last night, it might be best not to have as soft a character as Longclaw leading the way in dark places. That Chole Dragon did not treat him well. Our own big fat dragon would have been a better choice. :p
http://www.marcofolio.net/images/stories/fun/imagedump/demotivational_posters/bunnies.jpg
m_a_caque
09/19/2011, 08:38
i thought we were not having a session friday?... or did i miss the internet sarcasm?
i thought we were not having a session friday?... or did i miss the internet sarcasm?
get_1 is being silly.
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