Anyone have any good SAVAGE Hulk battles??

[SupaSlugfest]

Just to let you know, this Hulk can and will destroy ANY character in the game in close. All clix tremble and fear!! Even Thor, Sinestro LE-Bruce Banner (Hulk) and OWAW Superman can't handle him blow for blow! He's soooooooooo much fun to use. Tell me what you guys think and share some of your experiances with him!

Oh and by the way, I already have the entire X-plosion set!!!! LET'S GET IT ONNNNN!!!!!!!! :p

[Zero_Ace]

I dunno, V Juggernaut is pretty fun too, if you can get him in close combat with someone.

[sol]

Originally posted by SupaSlugfest


Oh and by the way, I already have the entire X-plosion set!!!! LET'S GET IT ONNNNN!!!!!!!! :p

Well, bully for you.

[Thorgrin]

I'd say OWAW Superman would do just fine. Considering he's got hypersonic speed, he could rush up, hit him at range and then soar (if on an outside map). Or he could run up, hit him with a dumpster for 5 points, pick it back up and go soaring again. Or worse case scenario, just him for straight 5 with a generic heavy object. Considering that Hulk's max range would be 6 (with a light object) that would do 0 points of damage or 4 to do 1 (that's if you miss the roll of imperviousness), there's not much more going for the hulk on the ground vs. a hypersonic flyer that has a base of 3 damage. Superman should win pretty much everytime, especially outdoors......

Heck, 1 on 1 vs. a sentinel, hulk will lose. yes, the sentinel may take a shot, but once he captures the hulk, he's out of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I like the new hulk, but he's not the end all/say all as far as a figure goes.

Originally posted by SupaSlugfest
Just to let you know, this Hulk can and will destroy ANY character in the game in close. All clix tremble and fear!! Even Thor, Sinestro LE-Bruce Banner (Hulk) and OWAW Superman can't handle him blow for blow! He's soooooooooo much fun to use. Tell me what you guys think and share some of your experiances with him!

Oh and by the way, I already have the entire X-plosion set!!!! LET'S GET IT ONNNNN!!!!!!!! :p

[SupaSlugfest]

He just might be the B2B EVER!!!

[malchyor]

he may be a great fig, but i'd rather have 201 points worth of other figs in a 201 point battle.

one on one i admit he might even match up to LE supes, but vs. a well done team, he's just another brick....that will fall over.

[golden]

Veteran Thor and Rookie Black Panther would kill Hulk quickly and easily.

[KneelB4Zodd]

Originally posted by golden
Veteran Thor and Rookie Black Panther would kill Hulk quickly and easily.

They're also more points. :)

[bigbird]

any two characters with incapacitate and outwit/2-3 clicks could beat him alone. so could any army (however small) based around flight and/or ranged combat

[Jackygobang]

In a straight, mano e mano fist fight, hulk would indeed smash. But, he is only a brick, and range can beat him. But he is the king of straight brawlers. IMHO

[SupaSlugfest]

Thats what I want to get straight! Mano e mano, anyother clix in the game is going down. Sure Supes can hit and run, Thor and others can use range and teams of clix can defeat him. Like anyother clix in the game, but it's time you kids realized that the SAVAGE Hulk is really the strongest one there is! Now give me some good battles, if yah got em!!!:grin:

[WarHULK]

I agree, he's good, but again, the way HC plays, B2B brawlers are still extremely limited in effectiveness.

As an example, in the Marvel vs. DC crossover in the 90's Hulk fought Superman and lost. Why you ask? Because Superman has so many other abilities other than his super strength. Superman himself knew that if he had just duked it out with the Hulk that Hulk would have defeated him. So yes, Hulk is the best close combat fighter, but in a world of ranged attacks and HSS he's still going to be beat unless he gets the drop on them somehow.

[SLAYER X]

I noticed everyone is aying this and that caqn beat him but they are ignoreing the basic idea of the post that one on one in base to base is where HULK rules. Not hulk vs. everyone else and not hulk vs someone who is afraid to go toe to toe with the great one. Hulk has a better than average chace of taking down superman or juggernaut one on one but it is never 100%.

[SupaSlugfest]

Thank you Slayer x thats just what I'm trying to say!! B2B the Savage Hulk 90 percent of the time is gunna just CREAM any clix in the game!! ANY!!!!!!

:laugh:

[Grethor]

Yes, the new Hulk may be the best at hand to hand. But this game is very much like paper-rock-sissors. No one thing is unbeatable, so while a lot(all?) figs will most likely go down at the hands of hulk, something else will beat Hulk. So, who cares? This thead is going to go into an endless debate of, "Helk is the man", follewed by, "Yeah but I could beat him with..." Bottom line: you're both right.

Just my 2 cents.

Grethor

[SLAYER X]

I think the new hulk will be great but OWaW superman toe to toe with hulk can beat him, superman just has the advatage of keeping a high attack and damge long enough plus one good roll to save will overwhelm him.

[SupaSlugfest]

well taken, but this thread was actually about good Savage Hulk battles in the game. Now forget about who beat who and tell me about good battles!!

[Vegeta1]

"Just to let you know, this Hulk can and will destroy ANY character in the game in close."

Like he couldn't do it before????:rolleyes:

[Vegeta1]

But Thor still beats him. :classic:

[Akakrz]

Well i'd say the fact that the hulk is 200+ points is a little in his favor......not many "close" combatants are that expensive. So I should HOPE he could beat other people

[Perfectstorm]

ok then, sure supes vs hulk, lets say hulk beats superman with in a inch of his life.

One, this is never going to happen. Range will always come into effect and be the hulks undoing, but lets assume they are "stuck" in B2B. Eventually supes wil escape via force blast, or it stalemates when supes goes soaring and neither can attack the other.

Hulk is just a brick. A good brick. But Not worth the points he is. the savage hulk can take almost anyone one on one, but that doesnt say much cause of his huge point cost.

His point cost is equal to that of 3 exp. Hercs. Now if you take a savage and match him up agaisnt 3 E hercs, I am pretty confident that Hulk will have his handed to him on a silver platter.

or maybe a vet and an experianced doc samson. I got the docs there too.

or 2 vet abominations. Hulk wouldnt stand a chance.

I guess what I am trying to say is that while Hulk is good, you can better spend your points else where.

I am not debating that he is the strongest B2B character yet, but thats not how tha game is played.

[mylo1wagner]

It could be.

The Champions Arena

11 by 11 squares.

Characters start in opposite corner.

No soaring.

Rebound off force field if you hit the wall.

No objects.

Ever see the Champion vs the hero's of Earth comic? The Thing didn't win, but impressed the Champion so much that he spared the Earth.
GREAT comic.

Cool way to play 1 on 1 heroclix. In the arena Savage Hulk would rule! Until they make The CHAMPION!!!

[SupaSlugfest]

Until they make Champion??? Hah! Maybe if he ever gets the balls to fight Thor or not running off like a chicken with the Hulk, getting creamed by the Silver Surfer or getting KO'ed with one punch by Drax. Then we'll talk...Champion...ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. Man that was a good one. Hope you weren't serious.

[mylo1wagner]

Only partly. He dismissed Thor for using his hammer. Hulk for going savage and turning a boxing match into a wrestling match. He was more powerful before Drax took the power gem from him (although he thought it was all him, and the gem was just a baubel). In the Champions Arena with no souring or weapons he would beat the snot out of Colossus, Wonder Man, Thing, Sasquatch and the others (as he did in the comic) but probably NOT Savage Hulk. It was the Savage part of the Hulk that made Champion consider him unworthy of the contenst.

[SupaSlugfest]

Yet, Champion is a savage fighter himself considering his fight with Thanos. Sorry buddy, but Tyco Slattterus was scared ####less of the Hulk!!:)

[mylo1wagner]

Missed that one. Champion would be cool. Come on.... admit it. You want ALL the enders of the Universe to be made into heroclix. INCLUDING the contemplator (power is that you can't take any actions) :).

[CarlosMucha]

Yes!

I was play The Original Avengers Vs Savage Hulk!!!


R Thor
R Iron-man
R Cap America
R Wasp
Unique Ant-man

Vs Hulk.

My friend was Hulk and me the Avengers, was very very fun.
The 1st dead was Ironman, I try to push again and gain to Cap looking Outwet, But Hulk kill Thor, and Cap after in 1 only punch. The last Avenger with life was Ant-Man, Hulk in youe last Clix kill to Ant-man.

Was a Very fun battle.

[SupaSlugfest]

So the Savage Hulk won? Was there ever any doubt? I want to hear of more battles!!!!!!

[Vegeta1]

Good thing he didn't face Vet Thor, eh? :grin:

[PsychoDBoy]

Why don't ya wait for most of us to actually be able to get Xplosion before we tell ya some battles....

[Shibitz54321]

something i found stupid was tha his name is SAVAGE HULK... but he has not one clik of battle fury!

[Thunderbolts]

Seems more like an 'I gota teh whole set' boast. Assuming it's true.

[Mongoose]

Man what gives with the OWAW Superman this, and that... Please the dude is 236 points. 35 more points then Hulk. I could grab a Black Panther, put him in stealth, and outwit the Boyscouts HSS. From there I would put Hulk right by him, so that he would have to make a break away roll. After that, it's school time Boyscout. On another note, while expensive, you people are missing the point. Savage Hulk is sheer brute power. One on One he will kill pretty much everyone in toe to toe battle. Oh and I do believe that he could defeat two Abominations by himself, if he lands the first attack with a dumpster that is.

[Thorgrin]

I'll concede that yes, Hulk will probably take out anyone one to one with the possible exception of Vet Hulk or Thanos due to regeneration powers. In fact, I'd even say that Vet Logan/Wolverine/Unique Wolverine/Vet Sabretooth (with the right rolls) could take on Savage Hulk as they can regenerate. Sure Hulk can hit them again, but then he'd probably have to push and knock them back to their pre-regen roll. Again, all depends on the rolls.

Then again, that's a fantasyland type of way to look on how to play the game as the game isn't played in such a fashion. Hence the comments of superman probably winning, etc. I don't know about you, but I don't play tournaments starting b2b. Heck, I don't play friendly games b2b in the middle of the battlefield. Must be the "new" way of playing.... *shrug*

One last comment, it's an either/or argument. You can't say he can take on 2 abominations if he can get a dumpster and also say he can take anyone b2b. So that comment is pretty ludacris. Also, what's to say the 2 abominations don't have an object in their hands and actually get the first shot in..? Again, comes to tactics, rolls, etc.

Originally posted by Mongoose
Man what gives with the OWAW Superman this, and that... Please the dude is 236 points. 35 more points then Hulk. I could grab a Black Panther, put him in stealth, and outwit the Boyscouts HSS. From there I would put Hulk right by him, so that he would have to make a break away roll. After that, it's school time Boyscout. On another note, while expensive, you people are missing the point. Savage Hulk is sheer brute power. One on One he will kill pretty much everyone in toe to toe battle. Oh and I do believe that he could defeat two Abominations by himself, if he lands the first attack with a dumpster that is.

[SupaSlugfest]

Either way the SAVAGE Hulk is the strongest one there is!!!

[bizzaro]

Originally posted by SupaSlugfest
Either way the SAVAGE Hulk is the strongest one there is!!!

Only if you don't include OWAW Superman. :grin:

[k0rnkid15]

my darkseid could EASILY kill that hulk man! outwit his deffense, and nail him for 3 clicks of damage :p.

[SupaSlugfest]

I said strongest one, not aquipt with the most powers!!!! Being the strongest and most powerful are two different things. But OWAW Superman and Vet-Thor are debatable on who is the most powerful clix in the game. Usually this fight will come down to who gets the first hit.

[clandestine400]

You might get more answers to your "Any good Savage Hulk Battles?" question once the set is released and the majority of us get a chance to get our hands on one. So maybe repost in a few days.

Also Black Panther in stealth will only delay Superman one action because he has Superman Team Ability (X-ray vision) and stealth means nothing!

[Weeza]

Destiny rules Hulk, she'll keep on Probabilty Hulk roll, so he can roll 2 snake eyes n kill him to death. Or just piss him off by super sensing him. Thats the way to go!!! Die Die Die

:ermm:

[Mongoose]

One last comment, it's an either/or argument. You can't say he can take on 2 abominations if he can get a dumpster and also say he can take anyone b2b. So that comment is pretty ludacris. Also, what's to say the 2 abominations don't have an object in their hands and actually get the first shot in..? Again, comes to tactics, rolls, etc.
Have you looked at Abominations AV? He doesn't have the best AV, and Hulk stays at 17 on several parts of his dial. If he strikes the first blow, more then likely as he is faster then both of them, then one really shouldn't have a chance at hitting him (I believe that after losing 3 clicks, cause he wiould suffer 5 damage, Abomination will have a 8 AV). In all truth though, i'd rather have the V. Hulk. I love getting regen on the better parts of his dial. It always infuriates my opponent.

[k0rnkid15]

yaaa darkseid IS strong, he could do it. he has 3 click of damage then does 2 w/ RCE.

[SupaSlugfest]

The Savage Hulk is king!

[Darth Sabre]

My friend had me buy all those X-plosion clix off of E-bay for him, after the con. The next week, they used those clix in an unsanctioned tourney. Everyone drew X-plosion clicks, one at a time, 300 point teams.

Hulk was impressive, but I guess Doc Samson, with some help, decimated 2 V Ironman on the first turn, and took the Incredible one to his final click on the first turn.

But other than that, the Hulk pretty muched wrecked shop. In the right game, he could be indestructible.

[rytardkalel]

OWAW superman kicked the snot out of savage hulk. there was no problem at all. superman didn't even get a scratch on him. plus it was an indoor map so superman couldn't soar either. i just used HSS and hulk didn't stand a chance. hulks great, i agree, but against OWAW supes he stood no chance.

[KaiserSelroc]

I think its been proven through repeated experimentation that no single fig can beat OWAW Superman. Kind of explains why he's also the most expensive.

[SupaSlugfest]

Well I think Thor has the best chance to beat OWAW Supes.

[Heroclixrules]

Originally posted by SupaSlugfest
Well I think Thor has the best chance to beat OWAW Supes.

I have actually played this out. and despite the point difference, it is true. Veteran Thor has the distinct advantage of running shot and 4 damage at a 10 range, so as long as he stays on that first click, he can stay out of range of supes first and maybe second turn. By that time if thor has hit, supes is almost past his hss point. Superman runs in and smacks thor, doing little damage after invulnerable. Thor hurles Mjolnir (hope I spelled that right) once more and WHAP! Supes' hss is gone. At this point, I believe his impervious is too. Thor keeps smacking with his high stats, whereas Supermans stats are only decent in comparison, due to his points going into powers and not stats. Eventually if all goes as normal, Thor bashes supes' head in repeatedly. The end

And no I am not DC biased. I actually used OWaW Supes for every game until he was beaten so terribly.

[Thorgrin]

On an inside map, I would agree with you. On an outdoor map, superman 1 on 1 takes any figure. First off, he can soar, so with running shot, you'd have to be within 9 squares away. He can move down, move into range, shoot, and then fly back out of range if needed. His speed is 11, so he can move 1 down, fly 3 in and then use the other 11 to fly back up and wherever he wants to stay out of range. Yes, he only does 3 points (effectively only 1 point to Thor at the start), but after a while, those little hits will take a toll. If played correctly and knocking Thor out of running shot, he can then be only 6 squares away in soaring. Next turn, hypersonic while picking up a heavy object and do lots of damage.

Outdoors, the LE superman reigns supreme 1 on 1. Indoors, there are other guys that will probably be better, but remember, he can hide around corners that running shot can't get around and he can move, pick up an object and do 5 points of damage and run again. So he'd still be very hard to take out on the indoors map.

[Mournblade]

I played a Savage Hulk chees-fest last night and will share the highlights (if you've read the other Savage Hulk thread, then you know the results).

Victory: Savage Hulk and his Savagites (299/300 pts. : U. Hulk, U. Green Goblin, V. Paramedic, E. Con Artist, E. Con Artist).

Indoor mall map. Over first 3 turns I pushed the Con Artists to get to Perplex and had a Perplex Con Artist shoot (punch?) a hole in a wall. Other team all had tokens (all the fighters had 2). Hulk, already pushed once, gets taxied in and hits Destiny, she dies. Nightcrawler and E. Firelord attack, Hulk takes 4 -- heh-heh-heh. Everyone clears. Hulk picks up a heavy object, is perplexed, and cranks Firelord for 10. Dead Firelord, crowd goes wild. Nightcrawler clears, Hulk pushes and hits Nightcrawler for 8. Dead Nightcrawler, crowd is in a frenzy. Opponent concedes.

Yes, a lot of things went my way, but it was a great deal of fun to see 10 clicks. :devious: