Storm misrepresented

[Harleyquyhn]

I'm really dissapointed with the R/V Storm :( She had so much potential, she really could have brought a really unique mix of powers into the X-men. Give Her Smokecloud and Forceblast, she would rock. I mean, all she has is EE and ESD, I dunno, but that's not the storm I know.

Oh well, I guess I'll be doing some custom dials :(

[Rufus]

Problem is, Marvel still does not have those powers. WK seems to be keeping some powers unique to each Universe so that there is at least some difference. SO force blast and smoke did not make it. Personally, I'm glad...I think smoke cloud is almost as useless as shapeshift. Force blast CAN be useful in the right situation though.

However I feel that EE, RCE and Energy Shield accurately describe her. The only change I may have made is maybe ditch the EE for incapacitate at some point (for those colder weather powers...but geuss they left that to iceman).

RCE and EE work rather well because they can include may types of weather attacks. From a gameplay standpoint it is also useful as she can do lot's of damage to a single target or a little bit to multiple figures (if crowd control is needed). Overall, I'm very happy with storm actually...her rook doesn't have much staying power, but the V is actually a very dangerous X-woman at a relatively cheap cost.

[Harleyquyhn]

I guess, It's just that when I tihnk of storm I think of more of her weather powers, the way she is now she should be called "lightning lady". Incapacitate would have been nice, just SOMETHING to show her wider range of powers.

I don't think smoke cloud would have been that useless, I mean with the abundance of stealth on some of the better X-men pieces, I tihnk it would have been welcome.

[sluggo]

I think storms stats are ok, the only difference I would have made would be to give her telek.

[WarHULK]

I have to say that Smoke Cloud really isn't as useless as people think... the only problem is that it's stuck in a Universe where stealth only comes as a team ability. Marvel has so many good stealth figures that smoke cloud would become amazingly useful. It's hindering you can put up at the end of your movements and it disappears at the begining of your next turn so there's no slow down in the movement of figures moving in stealth with smoke cloud. I was a little disappointed to not see it come over on a Storm figure, but oh well...

there's my defense of the seemingly bad ability... it's not so much bad as it is... well... misplaced...

[Rufus]

It's not totally horrible power...it's just that if you compare it to barrier it seems pointless...barrier can hide non-stealthed pieces as well as stealthed.

[WarHULK]

You have to use all 4 squares to totally cover astealthed character with Barrier. If you set up a wall there's still a chance the enemy can get to the other side and still blast them. With Smoke Cloud you can have four different stealthed figures hiding in terrain that can't be moved around because they're standing in it, thus the stealthed figures become blocking terrian themselves. Booya.

[HeroComplex]

1) You cannot place Smoke Cloud tokens under a figure. They figure may move on top of them later, but when placed they must be in clear squares.

2) A Stealth figure is never actually treated as blocking terrain. When in hindering, he is still only a figure. Sure, LoF can't be drawn to him, but treating the ability as a creation of blocking terrain usually leads you the wrong way.

[StormMaster]

The veteran looks great I think, especially for the point cost. I like harley would have liked to have seen force blast, smoke cloud, hell maybe even tk for a click to represent her wind powers that she uses so frequently.

But I'm just glad they made her, and I can't wait to use her on a team; and I'm generally happy with her outcome, which is pretty decent coming from someone whose favorite character in comicdom is Storm ;)

[WarHULK]

Herocomplex:

I didn't say you could make smoke clouds under figures, I meant that you can move them there. If you step on that square as your last step you will not be penalized any and it will be gone next turn, that was my point. Sorry for apparently not being clear enough.

Secondly, they block LOS to those behind them, and thus, effectively block them from ranged attacks. Thus, what I said stands true.

[WarHULK]

Just to agument my point:

"STEALTH. Hindering terrain blocks line of fire to this character. (Optional) Any line of fire drawn to this character that crosses hindering terrain, including the square that this character occupies, is treated as though it crosses blocking terrain."

I checked the FAQ to make sure that no changes had been made requarding this point and there were none.

[HeroComplex]

Oh, I was just making sure that no one got confused over the little distinctions.

I often find that getting the figure onto the token itself can be more trouble than it's necessarily worth. After all, it's something of a dedication of actions and figures to get all of those who you want protected to move at the end of your turn. Unless you happen to have free move abilities, you have to dedicate one of your actions to the Smoke Cloud and the rest to moving your figures, and then the next turn they will all already have at least one token.

In regards to blocking terrain---for the purposes of big figures or elevated terrain, the distinction between being blocking terrain and being a Stealthed figure becomes rather important, and that's why I pointed out the difference.

[Lensherr]

You know, I almost sweared to my friends that Storm would have multiple lightning bolts. I thought she would have one as a rookie, two as an experienced, and three as a vet. Kinda like Annihilus. I thought, no matter what else they may or may not give her, she will have multiple lightning bolts because it is just too fitting. Boy was I wrong. I also think it a shame she doesn't come with force blast. That would be so perfect for her. I figured maybe she'd just have a good damage with leadership, but I knew the possibility of range combat expert was good too. I don't get the energy shields at all. It seems like tons of people have it without having an excellent explanation for it. I guess that's how the fog effect comes into play as an obscuring mist for anyone who wants to shoot her. I too feel that smoke cloud is a good power, and would like to see it in the Marvel universe too. It would work excellently with Mysterio if they introduce him later. Remember characters who don't fly have to stop when entering hindering terrain. If the fliers are targeted and destroyed (which I like to do) then smoke cloud can be very useful. Storm could've been given more powers to represent the many weather phenomenons she can bring to the field; however, I also recognize the need for some cheaper X-Men, and that's probably something WizKid's had in mind. Storm should at least work with one of her old friends, and given most of their costs, she couldn't do that with all her powers represented.

[PMMJ]

Agreed, I would have liked to see Storm with multiple targets, as well as Force Blast and Smoke Cloud. Of course, I would also have liked to see her 'powerless' version as a unique, but that's just me.

[TychesCoin]

I'm also disappointed in Storm. I think they made a very playable figure, but I was expecting a Storm that would atleast top 80 points for the vet. Especially considering how the other x-men in the set look. I think smoke cloud would have been great for her, especially with all the stealth on the x-men post xplosion. Also think forceblast would have been perfect for storm.

If any x-man was going to have a dr.strange/iron man type dial, I'd think it would be storm. The whole mutant power concept lends itself to fairly onedimensional/overlapping abilities with maybe a few secondary, but for most mutants the dials going to be fairly consistent all the way as far as powers go. Storm just seemed like someone they could toss a bunch of variety onto the dial, everything she's got now, smoke cloud, force blast, maybe pulse wave, maybe tk, leadership, stealth

[WarHULK]

I think they'll do a Unique Storm later on in her silver costume and I think it'll have force blast and smoke cloud and then everyone will be content.

ES/D for her makes sense because she can use powerful winds to deflect ranged attacks against her.

I like the figure that's out now, but it's not as diverse as I thought it would be. I'll definately play with the one we have now. We shall see.

[the itsy bit]

yep..

Storm should definately have got Smoke cloud and force blast !
leadership and some other powers could have been included too.
I feel that all X-men were purposely kept low on cost, and it hurts some of them (Storm,Colossus).

[TychesCoin]

I kind of like the fact that they kept the x-men costs down in general. You need atleast a few to make good use of the team ability and the cheaper they are the easier it is to manage. I don't think colossus suffered badly for keeping the costs down. He's got the powers he should have and I don't think he ever really depended on his fighting skill nearly as much as his powers in combat so the lower stats make sense. It makes him more dependent on the rest of a team than say she-hulk or juggernaut. Which is consistent with the x-teams.

My issue with storm is I think her stats are fine but I don't see her getting the powers she should have.

[quixotequest]

Even the LE won't likely get the Veteran+ treatment that Storm fans are looking for. Since Cosmic Justice will be having some more "Marvel" powers crossing over, I think a later silver Storm unique with FB and Smoke Cloud is very possible. I would have liked a more "rainbow" dial for Storm but I also like they kept her cost down. Pre-Xplosion it was tough to field a competitive all X-Man team.

[Thanosied]

I would have given her alot more. Being one of the most powerful people on earth she should be a hell of alot better in my opinion. Try at least around the 100 point range. She has little defensive powers in the comics but who cares she is one of the most powerful. A 50 point Storm doesn't do her justice, it does represent her powers but it lacks her ability to defeat alot of characters she would normally. She is very playable but I think this is a Uncanny X-Men Storm(from the beginning) possibly and not the all powerful Storm that most of us are acustumed too. Much like Iceman I think they will release different versions later to represent there powers at MAX value.