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mar93
03/22/2003, 18:22
I'd like to put together a good Fantastic Four team, somewhere around 300 points. They have a great team ability but anyone playing against you that knows about it will just knock off each figure one-at-a-time without touching the others (so they don't benefit from the team ability).

I tried putting together a team, even included V Daredevil (with the wildcard Spider-Man team ability) and I was DESTROYED. Now I've got a V Thing and a V She-Hulk but I can't get over the fact that Mr. Fantastic is horrible to use and the best Invisible Girl/Woman is the R version (using Defend). Even Human Torch is only good, but best at drawing fire.

I'm holding off even attempting to put together a new FF team until I get a V Spider-Man, at least. No one I know knows how to put together an FF team that could work.

Anyone got any ideas?
mar
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Noman
03/22/2003, 18:28
I thought one of the FF sets added up to 300pts ?

If so, drop Invisible Girl and Torch to their Rookie versions, and then use the extra points to add Medics and or Perplexers.

AtB

Noman

k0rnkid15
03/22/2003, 18:42
dude all the E's on the FF equal up to 300 points, and u could put in medusa for E invisible girl (i think) or u could switchE thing w/ E she-hulk. also all the R's equal to 200, and all the V's equal to 400.

Thunderbolts
03/22/2003, 20:58
Eh. Do you want other affiliations or nothing but FF (with Spider-man allies)?

Assuming the latter... try...

E She-Hulk
V Torch
E Invis. Girl
and either
U Medusa, or
V Daredevil or
E Black Cat

Medusa keeps the theme going. DD lets you add an E Paramedic. Black Cat gives you a reroll and points left for a medic, or enough to upgrade Invis. Woman to Veteran (or She-Hulk, if you don't mind the Avengers badge).

Don't sell E/V Sue short, her blocking ability is amazing, although the E move of 6 is a bit low for a taxi. Anyway, using DD or Medusa, you basically have to tie up threatening pieces whilst going all out with Torch and Shulkie to destroy everything else, then team up on what's left. Sue and Medusa/DD are your tie-up, expendables. Medusa doesn't last long but is hard to ignore due to Plasticity. Sue takes a while to beat down/hit, so base anyone short of Firelord stats with her.

You can feel pretty safe pushing Shulkie and Torch if you have Medusa around, since she'll heal them up when she croaks. Same with DD, although good luck keeps him around longer, usually.

Mr. Fantastic tends to only be any good in his V form, and in 300 points he'll be a sizeable portion of your points. He can take a beating but not from an entire enemy team. Still, if you want to try Stretcho, there's:

V Mr. F
V Torch
V Invis. Woman
E Black Cat

Or downgrade Sue, ditch Cat and add Medusa. Unforunately you're hurting to damage Invulnerables here until Mr. F gets Outwit, so push him like crazy. Get him to base the toughest enemy ASAP, and also try and take care of any hostile Outwit (not too hard in Marvel games since only 2 start out with it). Damage dealing falls to Torch on this team, so keep him far from th enemy, using everyone else to tie up folks (easily done if you have Medusa, Mr. F and IG).

These aren't great, but I hope they give you some ideas. They'll never get anywhere versus typical mix n match Firelord fests, but dedicated teams never seem to. Sadly. :(

Captain Spoon
03/23/2003, 21:19
i would use:

R Inv Girl
V Human Torch
E Thing
E Mr. Fantastic


It's quite simple...

V torch will most of the time taxi girl.. why? how does 20 def (torch) sound like? ESD + Defend from girl... so you have a very solid running shot with excellent defense... you must protect inv girls so when you taxi, be carefull... Thing will taxi Fantastic... (you need outwitt, sorry but this is the best you can do.. It's FF4 for pete's sake)... plasticity will make sure nobody will be running back to medics....

gl,

-SPOON!-

Thunderbolts
03/23/2003, 21:45
Thing.... taxis... Mr. Fantastic.

Something ain't right here.

SilverAgeFlash
03/23/2003, 21:54
my 300 pt ff team

R invisable girl
V human torch
E thing
V Invisable woman

i know its cheesey but hey you got to take what you can
as you can see the weak link has been eliminated infavor of the best memeber

torch carries IG and IW carries thing the important thing is to move as a group. move and shoot with HT drop IG behing in hindering ply thing up drop him and he charges to lay on the hurt

bakool
03/27/2003, 02:20
exp she-hulk or thing
rook mr fantastic
rook invis girl
vet human torch
exp black cat

richjwood
03/28/2003, 02:29
My personal favorite 300 point nothing but Fantastic


Exp Invis Woman 57
Vet Human Torch 73
Exp Thing 110
Medusa 57

Make sure to creep up slowly with Sue and Medusa. Definitely push Invis Woman while taxiing (to get the Defend). Medusa is not bad when she's got 17 defense. She can actually tie up someone at that point without getting killed in the process. Before it gets to that, you can use these two as backup for the Human Torch and the Thing if they need it.

People will be worried about Johnny and Ben....and they should be! Those two can combine for a Running Shot + Charge w/Heavy Object that does 9 damage. It's nice when you can not only disable the big fig for several clicks with Thing, but injure their supporting figs with the blast from the Torch.