Pls rate remakes: Wolverine & Vet White Queen

[LurkMaster2000]

just a couple of figs that i thought had more potential.

Okay, here goes (I don't have retardog's formula at the moment, so no point costs available):

(Vet/Berserker?) Wolverine
0 Range
i think he comes up to around 90 points
X-men

8...8...6...6...5...5...5...5...5...4
11.10.10..9...8...7...8...9...10..6
15.15.15..14.14.14.13.13..12.11
2...2...2...1...1...1...1...1...1...2

IMO, wolverine is the x-men's best close combat fighter, hence the higher attack values. he is generally a pain in all of his enemies' arses because he never goes down no matter how many times they hit him hence the low defense, but has toughness for 6 clicks. his 10 clicks of life represents his pain-in-the-arseness, as well as his "pushability" -- i think this is just as good as giving him willpower.

he starts with charge and battle fury for his first 3 clicks, then loses battle fury in the middle of his dial when his attack values go down a bit and picks up stealth and regeneration -- he gets a chance to hide and get his health back up to full. if he does get past his regeneration clicks, he gets PO'ed -- so he's got flurry and his attack values climb steadily (push him to your heart's content). on his final click, he regains stealth and regeneration, but is pooped so his attack value takes a nose dive... i gave him 2 damage because he doesn't have BCF on his final click.

did i think too much on this? anyway, here is my version of vet white queen. i think she'd be more usable than the current one.

Vet White Queen
0 range (yes, she'll only be able to mind control people from 4 spaces away)
i think she comes up to around 95-100 points
X-men

6...5...5...5...5...5...5...5...5
10..9...7...9...8...7...6...5...4
15.14..15..17.16..15.14.13..12
1...1...1...2...2...2...1...1...1

i made her under the assumption that she only loses her telepathic powers when she is in diamond form. so she keeps mind control, psychic blast, super senses, and leadership in her first two clicks. she then starts to turn into diamond on her 3rd click, so she loses her mental powers and gains invulnerability. she also could care less about leading at this point because she's peeved at whoever stressed her out enough to make her turn into diamond, but she gains outwit for three clicks. she gains (surprise!) perplex when she gets weaker and gets toughness instead of invulnerability later on in the dial.

thoughts?

and yes, i'm bored.

[kanine41]

At first I thought "Oh no, not so more remakes!". But I really like your berserker wolverine. I think a character like that would be really fun to play and also seems well represented of how he would act in battle. :classic:

I just don't know too much about white queen to offer any opinions :surprised

[sluggo]

I got no problems with Wolveriens stats (maybe give him a 16 defense to match Logan) but ten clix's is a bit much. He has regen for a while on his dail which is pretty good at showing that he almost never goes down. But once he gets regen, I wouldn't take it away again. I also don't know why he AV would start going up again.

I think thats what vet White Queen should have bene like. 3 clixs or so with her mental abilities, and then 4 with her diamond skin.

[LurkMaster2000]

Originally posted by kanine41
At first I thought "Oh no, not so more remakes!". But I really like your berserker wolverine. I think a character like that would be really fun to play and also seems well represented of how he would act in battle. :classic:


yeah, i used to wonder how people could waste their time redoing stats until i tried it. retardog's dial generator got me hooked and it's actually kinda fun... :p

and yeah, i was reading some wolverine comics recently and i thought that none of the versions out there really represent him well. many are supposed to fear this guy, and i'm thinking, how are his clix versions too easy to take down (especially mine ;) )..?

[LurkMaster2000]

Originally posted by sluggo
I got no problems with Wolveriens stats (maybe give him a 16 defense to match Logan) but ten clix's is a bit much.

that's why i gave him a low defense -- to offset his 10 clicks. i wanted to give him willpower, but then i also wanted to give him toughness. i figured the best way to represent this was to give him toughness, then let him be a figure that people wouldn't mind pushing.


But once he gets regen, I wouldn't take it away again. I also don't know why he AV would start going up again.


the regeneration was actually what was giving me the hardest time to figure out. i did have it so that he had all the regeneration towards the end of his dial, but then this would only deter people from using that flurry/BCF combo. i didn't want them to have to think, "should i regenerate him? or should i use his flurry/BCF?"

i have his AV going up to show more of his "willpower." obviously, he's not like the hulk who gets stronger (which is why his defense actually goes down), but i figure he focuses more when he's on his last legs for his own survival.


I think thats what vet White Queen should have bene like. 3 clixs or so with her mental abilities, and then 4 with her diamond skin.

heck, i find her lone x-men version so unusable that i would have been happy with 1 click of mental abilities...

[The_Orphan]

Nice and all, but Emma isn't exactly one you'd expect around for nine clicks. I'd max her at seven.

[PMMJ]

And why would she have Perplex?

[Melkoloran]

I'd agree with Sluggo, 10 clix is a bit much. Otherwise it looks pretty good.

[Jason Blood]

how could she use psychic blast with 0 range?

[Ender-X]

in case you didnt know you cant use Phycic blast in close combat its rang combat plz read the rules

[Ryko]

I like how the wolverine has Regenerate in the middle of his dial, however I think his defense should go up alittle to represent that he has adamantium and can resist most damage, hard to hurt, and decently fast.

I also like the white queen but i have an idea for her: give her some range, but then give her some battle fury to represent her mental defenses she has in place, how heavy she would be, and how she cant use her mental powers in her diamond form.

Just some ideas i thought were decent.