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WFUnDina
03/23/2003, 22:00
Guys, I have a problem with my soon to be old lady. We're looking @ getting an apartment 2gether. We found one she really likes, it's allright by me, but here goes my problem. She's offered to learn how to play Clix in exchange, for getting the apartment she wants. Should I ?
1. Take her up on the offer.
2. Let it be.
3. Get the apartment she wants and not take her up on the offer.
We've been together 7 years now. I've been collecting comics and related items for over a decade now, and she really has know interest in comics, outside the movies.
She loves reading books, just not comics. We already play Scrabble and Trivia Pursuit on a regular basis, which I win 95% of the time. Should I try and teach her Clix and risk enbarcing her more?
If you help me decided to teach her, how should I go about doing this? Thanks :ermm:
NeoFascist
03/23/2003, 22:06
I think you probably shouldn't get your relationship advice from what is most likely the least experienced group of people in that subject in the Universe.
WFUnDina
03/23/2003, 22:09
If I was going for that I would ask my 31 year old coworker, whom's never been L aid. I was just wonder if you guys think it could work or was worth trying?
NeoFascist
03/23/2003, 22:12
Well, I was just joking, so don't mind me.
Fience?
Is that like the thing that surrounds my backyard and keeps the neighbors from raiding my tomato garden?
Work smart, not hard. Give in to the apartment she wants, but tell her she only has to learn clix if she wants. That way she builds interest on her own and loves you for being so caring. Then, when you need it you throw it up in her face. It's all about banking usable points.:devious:
Kid Zemo
03/23/2003, 22:32
I suggest option 3 - Let her know that the apartment choice is fine (so long as you like it well enough of course) and that you'd love to teach her the game but that you won't hold her to the deal.
This way, you put the ball in her court - she can follow up on learning HC if she wants but if she really doesn't - you don't want the frustration of teaching it to her anyway! But if you made it a hard bargain, she may come to resent the game as an obligation before she even sits down.
Kid Zemo
Zekeup32
03/23/2003, 22:40
I agree. If she truly, honestly doesent want to learn to play clix, then trying to teach her will just frustrate the both of you. Tell her the appartment looks great and you whould love to move into it with her, but she only needs to learn to play if she decides to.
falcarrion
03/23/2003, 23:04
take the apartment and say to her that you would like for her to try it but if she doesn't want to thats ok. If she does try it and likes it you will be the envy of most of us here.
Another soul sucked into the heroclix abyss!
HAHAHAHA!
I think the commonly assumed thing about comics is that they are associated to be a genre and not a medium. E.G TV is a medium but the horror show on it is a genre. The comic is only the content holder not the content itself.
IMHO I'd try to get her interested in comics beforehand rather than clicks as this for you is where the hobby spans from, explaining its not all spandex, boobs and one demensional good vs bad characters. Try something like from hell for the amazing dark story or Bone for something lighter.
If she likes books she proberly has some predesposed ideals of what comics are, e.g the geeky stereotype. Surprise her.
Pot.
If your so worried about embarrassing her, just let her win a few games.
Some sound advice above: go with her choice of apartment if it's something you're happy with, and just leave the Clix option on the table if she's interested, not as an obligation.
While I would also say it's a good idea to lead her to an interest in comics (leave some of the better trade paperbacks around, for instance) I don't second the idea that you should try to interest her in comics first. Clix and comics are two very separate things. Though an interest in the comics characters certainly enhances the attraction of Heroclix it's unlikely that she's going to develop a broad enough interest in the characters represented in the comics for it to have any impact on her enjoyment of the game. She's more likely to enjoy Heroclix on the level of a strategy game with colorful pieces and options. Let each (clix and comics) stand or fall on its own.
If she never gets interested in either, look on the bright side: She's less likely to ask for half of your comics and/or clix in the event of a divorce. In the meantime, don't refer to either one as "an investment." ;)
(No, I've never been divorced and have been married for 18 years, but I've met more than a few bitter, bitter comics collectors who've gone through the experience.)
Take the apartment provided you can play HeroClix there. Offer to teach her if she wants to learn but don't foce her. Give her space. Every relationship needs space. She will appreciate you allowing her to be her own individual. Continue to take her to the movies. Also showing her the more mature side of comics might not win her over but it should give her a little more respect for YOUR :cheeky: hobby. :grin:
DS-00-0, FSD
03/24/2003, 11:20
Well, I'm not sure what more I could say that the past three or four posts have not covered.
If you like the apartment (or can at least tollerate it), then there's really no issue.
If she wants to try clicks out, try to use the less "strategy intense" figs. The 200 point teams from the DC or Marvel Premier editions are a nice way to learn, plus they have easily recognized characters (especially if her comic knowledge is based on movies).
If she's into books, but not comics, you could also consider some of the novels that are out that deal with comic book characters. That is another way that she might come to know more about certain characters.
One other thing to consider if she does agree to play. In terms of enjoyment gained from playing games, most women enjoy the aspects of building/creating while most men enjoy the aspects of destroying/tearing down. IMO You should put most of the emphasis on her ability to make a creative team.
;)
Okay...woman's advice here. Take the apartment, don't enforce the deal. If she wants to learn to play in order to do something with you that you enjoy, that's great. If she has no interest, your teaching her won't be any fun for either of you. And holding her to a deal like that when she's not really interested won't do a thing to improve your relationship. You're in a great position here, you can be magnanimous about this and not hold her to the deal if she doesn't want to do it, or you can teach her if she's interested and have somebody else to share the game with. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.:)
And I agree with the guy who said to not worry about getting her involved in the comics. I've played HC since it came out, but have only recently started getting into comics. I always loved the superhero cartoons as a kid, and that interest was what attracted me to this game. That, and wanting to spend the time playing it with my husband. ;)
best advice I can give you. don't get into "deal" making with a partner or spouse. then if one or the other of you fails on your end, it's the same ol thing. " I thought we had a deal?"
could get ugly. you must just try to do what pleases her, and she must try for you. no coersion in relationships.. bad bad idea and mistake too many people make
darius_dax1
03/24/2003, 11:54
I agree....deals in relationships barely ever work without one person feeling forced to comply to hold up their end of the bargain. This could create a lot of resentment and that is something you both don't need.
If she elects to play hero-clix it will be at her choosing, don't force it it will be heck for you if you do. Also, about leaving comics or trade paperbacks laying around, Only display the tpbs on a bookshelf. Do not leave them laying around the house (this also goes for comics and hero-clix). There will be nothing that will keep her away from these hobbies more than having to clean up after them.
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