Character Creation - Howard the Duck

[HowieTheDuck]

Howard the Duck
Range - O
Team - No Affiliation

M 7 6 6 5 5
A 8 7 6 5 4
De 15 14 12 10 8
Dv 1 1 0 0 0

Now for some explination. He has Flurry, because he is a master of Quack-Fu. He has Willpower because if he wants to do something, he'll do it, and nothing will stop him, even though most of the time that's just leaving which is why it's at the end of his dial. And he has Perplex because he's a duck, and I mean, even in a heated battle with your arch-nemesis, seeing a duck walking around, smoking and talking is going to throw you off a little bit.

[HowieTheDuck]

Not to bump this but c'mon, someone at least tell me that this will never get made, that I'm completely overpowering him, that he sucks and I need to get a life, something. Someones gotta have an opinion about the duck, even if it's that they want to roast him and have a feast.

And my I add, a heart-felt...

WAAAUGH!!!

[NeoFascist]

I've only seen Howard the Duck, the Movie, so I don't know about him in comics, but since he manages to beat that weird thing in the movie, maybe he should get a click of outwit at the end, too?

[Hadez]

Hey man, if it means something, I like it!
I hope it does get made!
I would love to lead a 350 point army with Howard as my general!!!!

[NickCarraway]

A Howard the Duck Clix. I think not. I am still taking Guff from my mates for going to see that movie the day it came out, God forbid I should pull a clix like that.

Of course, if there was a clix for the Lea Thompson character I might find it in my heart to sanctiona Howard clix

[Hadez]

Hey Dude, if you want to know the real Howard The Dck, go to a comic book shop and buy the Howard The Dcuk Miniseries from Marvel's MAX line.
Lucas ####ted Howard as he did with the prequels.
Read it and i'll guarantee that you'll love the duck.

[Hadez]

Originally posted by Hadez
Hey Dude, if you want to know the real Howard The Dck, go to a comic book shop and buy the Howard The Dcuk Miniseries from Marvel's MAX line.
Lucas ####ted Howard as he did with the prequels.
Read it and i'll guarantee that you'll love the duck.

[HowieTheDuck]

Now way, this is not the Howard from the movie, that thing was horrid to the Nth degree. (admittedly it's in my collection, along with an awful Masters of the Universe movie, but only because I'm that dedicated to the character)

This is based on the wise crackin', sorry to be stuck on this higher-power forsaken planet filled to over-flowing with hairless apes duck of Marvel comics glory! (glory is in italics for the obvious exaggeration for anyone who has actually read a Howard appearance)

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but the Max series of the past year, titled Howard the Duck #1-6, was my favorite read in a long time. (Gotta love a duck being brought before the Almighty and have a few drinks, while discussing the workings of the universe... ish #6) Brought me back into comics as a matter of fact. The original series, Howard the Duck #1-31, was a laught riot. (think the Savage Dragon has funny enemies, try Dr. Bong [Howie's AE], the Deadly Space Turnip, Gorko the Man-Frog, Hellcow, Kong Lomerate, Le Beaver, Prorata, Sudd and Thogg the Nether Spawn, plus he teamed with both Dr. Strange and Damion Hellstorm early in his career, maybe an honorary Defender...) Some of the best satire in comics today or ever IMHO. His appearances in GenX were lacking, but at least it was him. Someone out there please tell me that you've read and Howard appearance.

The movie was the worst thing to happen to Howard since... since nothing, it was the worst thing to happen to Howard, don't base your opinions on this, give him a read, laugh, learn, then read some more, laugh again, learn some more and so on into infinity.

[HowieTheDuck]

Hadez, I don't care if you beat me to it, you tell them!!!!!!

POWER TO THE DUCK

[Hadez]

Amen my brother!
If you plead for it, The Duck Shall Come!!!!

Kidding aside, I really like Howard.
If somebody does another movie bout him, It better be NC-17 rated just as the mini-series

[NickCarraway]

Actually, I read the Duck way back when. I even think it was my entry port to Heavy Metal and surrealism and a few other things.

I do think the Clix is a buff idea. There's not a lot of humor (ok, ok, any INTENTIONAL humor) in the clix as they stand. Plus, how cool would it be to get some good rolls and spank Firelord to win a tournament with the Quacker.

[HowieTheDuck]

Ha, I'd love it. Shoving a cigar up his firery rear, axe that, why waste a cigar when I could boot the cheese off his face with a flurry of webbed feet? Using that stick of his to light the next stoagie would be icing on the cake.

[ASpaceBoyDream]

God, I knew this would happen. "I'll just wait post that Howard the Duck character creation tomorrow! Hey, no rush, nobody else is going to actually go to the trouble for a character like that!" I can't believe somebody beat me to it.

Anyway, my dial was a lot like yours, only I'd only give him four clicks of life. Close Combat Expert on his first click (with zero damage) to represent Quack-Fu. Slightly higher defense, slightly lower attack value. Perplex is a must. I mean, c'mon, he's a talking duck.

[ASpaceBoyDream]

God, I knew this would happen. "I'll just wait post that Howard the Duck character creation tomorrow! Hey, no rush, nobody else is going to actually go to the trouble for a character like that!" I can't believe somebody beat me to it.

Anyway, my dial was a lot like yours, only I'd only give him four clicks of life. Close Combat Expert on his first click (with zero damage) to represent Quack-Fu. Slightly higher defense, slightly lower attack value. Perplex is a must. I mean, c'mon, he's a talking duck.

[HowieTheDuck]

Never underestimate the power of a talking duck, let that be a lesson to you, SpaceBoyDream. I had thought about the CCE, but decided against it, mainly because it's not in the Marvel clix yet, but also because, I'm not sure I could see Howard hurt someone with toughness, unless he got a lucky, and or cheap, shot in like a critical hit. Actually considered some BCF, but couldn't remember a time he ever bit. I've wondered if his AV was a little high myself, or that I should at least make it drop off quicker, and the DV I like, its comprable to a Henchmen, and even with the Quack-Fu, Howard wasn't especially light on his feet...er, flippers.

[Þokolo]

i know nothing about this charecter but i think he is an awesome and very original comic book charecter

if they do make them (and i strongly hope they would & think they should) he should be unique & just unique even if he sucks...

why should he be unique even if they click would suck? cuz he is a very unique comic book charecter
man that would be awesome
i like the idea of flurry & will power too

maybe like 5 clicks of life... 3 clicks flurry... 2 clicks willpower & a damage of 2 for first 2 clicks...
he would be a pretty good clix that way actually

[zaurial]

...you didnt give him swimming...
but overall a good fig.

[HowieTheDuck]

I had actually considered it, but decided against it. As much as it pains me to bring it up, the "movie" version of Howie despised water. I can not remember a time in the comics where he showed much interest in entering the water either. (Aside from the occasional shower with Bev, of course, but I don't think would fit with the aquatic movement anyway)

[Þokolo]

ok ok ok
i read a little up about him and created my own Howard The Duck... not much different from yours but here it is

Name:Howard the Duck
Rarity:6 (Unique)
Range:4
Range Attacks:2
Point Value:53
Team:Defenders

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9 8 8 7 7
15 14 14 13 13
2 2 1 1 1

ok so the Flurry as you said is quack fu
the willpower as you said is for doing what he wants
plasticity becuase you said he mostly leaves whenever he wants so he has a better chance of breaking away
& then i thought outwit would be better then perplex for distracting but i gave a click of perplex still
energy/shield bacuse it said he had some armor
toughness for same reason
and leap climb because it said he has some spring shoes of some sort

[HowieTheDuck]

Where did you read up on him exactly...because I'm pretty well versed in Howard-lore and some of those things I've never heard of...I'm going to go through your list and point out anything I'm unsure of, I welcome all explinations or other such challenges to my statements.

Range: 4 The most that he has ever done range attack-wise is flick a cigar at someone. Stoagie-flicking is difficult enough without the added burden of stubby, feathered covered fingers. I'd say a Range: 2...MAX.

Range Attacks: 2 As the above statement states, only cigar flicking, ever. And since I don't ever recall him smoking multiple cigars, not double arrow. One in each wing would be darn near impossible anyway.

Team: Defenders Although I've read the issue in which I'm sure this stemmed from, Howard is not, nor will he ever will be a team player. Admittedly he has teamed up with the Defenders, Generation X and a few other Marvel U odds and ends, but he is NOT a part of any team. All he's ever wanted to do was leave this planet infested with "hairless apes". NO TEAM, end of question.

Leap/Climb - Spring shoes...I hope not. I don't ever remember them, but if they did exist, they were far from a regular occurance, thankfully. He kept quite planted in the vast majority of his encounters.

Plasticity - The concept is sound, but the power itself just doesn't fit. Come to think of it, even when he was trying to get away, he was rarely successful, but the effort was there...only so much a duck can do against the much stronger "hairless apes"

Willpower - I agree with this power 100%, but do you not have it reading Smoke Cloud in your stats? Actually, Smoke Cloud on the first click would be great. Blowing stoagie smoke at someone happened fairly regularly.

Energy Shield/Toughness - I do remember the armour, but it was for a fight with Dr. Bong, his arch-nemisis, if I'm not mistaken. Now, a armoured up Howie who is AE with a Dr. Bong clix would be make my frickin' year, but as we're likely to only ever see one...if that, I'd rather it be the suit and hat wearing version that waddled around the vast majority of the time.

Outwit - No. He can't shut off powers and he isn't smart enough to work around them. He is weird-looking and verbally irritating enough to allow someone a better shot, a sucker punch while an opponent is doing a double-take or even the distraction of flashing his tail-feathers. Perplex all the way. I felt 1 damage was pushing it, I mean, his arms are already padded, but 2 is just nuts, Quack-Fu or not.

The extra click of Flurry I like, and actually, maybe a click of Charge as he often just burst into situations when he was heated up enough about them...

[GMSLegion]

Originally posted by HowieTheDuck
I had actually considered it, but decided against it. As much as it pains me to bring it up, the "movie" version of Howie despised water. I can not remember a time in the comics where he showed much interest in entering the water either. (Aside from the occasional shower with Bev, of course, but I don't think would fit with the aquatic movement anyway)

Going massively off-topic...

It was established in HTD #9 that he and Bev never bathe together, because she cannot stand the smell of wet feathers. He and Bev first shower together in HTD Magazine #2, which was, like the rest of that misbegotten series, a piece of bile written by Bill Mantlo and geared towards high schoolers willing to shell out for some black and white nudity.

I was surprised and alarmed when they showered together in HTD Max #2, but then I remembered that Howard wasn't actually a duck at the time and had no feathers to get wet. It also set up an unbelievably crude gag which had me in stitches.

On the other hand, he is a duck, and he can swim, so he should have the acquatic ability on his click.

[GMSLegion]

Originally posted by HowieTheDuck
Leap/Climb - Spring shoes...I hope not. I don't ever remember them, but if they did exist, they were far from a regular occurance, thankfully. He kept quite planted in the vast majority of his encounters.

Plasticity - The concept is sound, but the power itself just doesn't fit. Come to think of it, even when he was trying to get away, he was rarely successful, but the effort was there...only so much a duck can do against the much stronger "hairless apes"


The spring shoes were part of the Iron Duck armor, which was written by Mantlo and should be forgotten. I agree with you completely that he shouldn't have plasticity. Remember how long he was stuck in the psychiatric hospital?

Perhaps the original poster read a reference to "walking away from a fight" (for example, against Le Beaver) and took it literally?

I'd just go with 5 clicks of life, willpower on each, one click of flurry, but perplex on the front end of his dial to better represent the initial "Y- y- you're a duck!!" shock.

[shin-goji]

You really have more time on yourhands than I do, dont you?

[supergoblin]

Originally posted by shin-goji
You really have more time on yourhands than I do, dont you?
ok now thats disturbing, no one can possible have more time on there hands than shin-goji, who odvously has no life.

[Þokolo]

ok ok i updated him so he made more sense

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21 1 1 1

Name:Howard the Duck
Rarity:6 (Unique)
Range:0
Range Attacks:1
Point Value:46
Team:NA

so i guess thats it

ok i still think outwit should be there cuz outwit is more like a distraction than perplex is
i gave him willpower at the begiing with his 2 clikcs of flurry cuz i thought flurry & willpower would make a great combonation & hed make more sense to be a unique charecter
smoke cloud yeah for the cigar
& i took off Energy Sheild & Toughness cuz it most likely would be a Hat & Suit version

any questions coments?

[GMSLegion]

Originally posted by shin-goji
You really have more time on yourhands than I do, dont you?

I dunno. That took me about 12 minutes while checking my e-mail. Why? How much time do you have?

[HowieTheDuck]

Outwit is not a distraction...Outwit is using intelligence and cunning to avoid an opponents power or stop them from using said power. Perplex is a distraction causing them to be momentarily weakened or give you some slight advantage.

People of the forum, help me out on this. Even if you aren't a friend of the Duck, Outwit does not fit this character.