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HowieTheDuck
03/25/2003, 11:58
Dark Phoenix
Range - 12/
Team - No Affiliation

M 18 18 17 17 17 16 16 16 16 15 15
A 15 15 15 14 14 14 13 13 13 15 12
De 18 17 16 16 17 17 15 13 10 16 15
Dv 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 5 2

Whoops, forgot to explain.

Phasing seems pretty self explainatory, the Phoenix entity forming the bird and flying of where ever it wanted, as does Mind Control.

Telekinesis is one of her main abilities whether it be tossing objects, or figures around, she can use her telepathic powers to Incapacitate opponents, or use Psychic Blast to injure them.

The TK Shield of hers would protect her and once that is weakened some Invulnerability and Toughness to sop up some damgae, Barrier as a last resort to stop those ranged attacks.

To represent the hard time Xavier had trying to get in her head, I gave her Battle Fury as her defense started to drop, and Outwit at the end when she stops others powers, I seem to remember her turning Colosuss back into flesh.

I put a weak spot on the dial, and some lower stats before it to represent the battle between the Phoenix persona and Jean Grey. The 9th click is for the times that Jean took control and asked to be killed. It's far enough down the dial that a decent hit could take her out, and since the Battle Fury is gone, she could be Mind Controlled, but once the Phoenix is back in charge, there's a huge power spike before she is KO'd, because she would get pissed around that point.

Thought about Hypersonic Speed, but realized it would give her a 30 space range, and although comically accurate, didn't fit for the game.

Anyone know why the Dark-Blue color appears Red?

bperch
03/25/2003, 13:35
I'd like to see Dark Phoenix as a large scale figure myself. Like Sinestro, but in a huge firey bird.

Ryko
03/25/2003, 13:44
nice, except you do realize that she doesnt have a ranged attack when she has battle fury right?

Freakin Ninja
03/25/2003, 13:57
its nice but...add like 10 to all the numbers because she is basically one of the most powerfull being ever. She is way to powerfull to ever be a clix. but since they did make Thanos.......well :confused:

HowieTheDuck
03/25/2003, 14:40
bperch - I like the idea, but I don't think she would need a huge base. No reason to have that many other figures in B2B. Now if they could fit the firey bird onto a normal sized base, I'd be all for it

Ryko - Yep I realize it, that's why I only gave it to her when the Defense values are dropping, making her suceptable to mind control, and when she has no powers requiring the Range. Plus I wanted it to be when she was battling with Jean inside, so I thought she'd be more focused on that than taking out others.

Freakin Ninja - I do agree, since she can blink out universe just for fun, she probably won't ever be a click, but when she was first taking over, and while she had joined the Hellfire Club, I don't recall her being quite that powerful. This was what I was trying to represent with this.

Freakin Ninja
03/25/2003, 23:29
i see, and understand.

HowieTheDuck
08/08/2003, 03:23
Saw some new threads about the Phoenix and thought, "Hey, I did that a while back...wonder what people think of it..." I'd love to hear some more thoughts.

And glad you understand Freakin

MagnusLensherr
08/09/2003, 00:11
The cost is 398!!!!!!!

DareDevil_13
08/09/2003, 00:17
If you think she's bad, try making Galactus.:eek:

Draft
08/22/2003, 11:18
How do you calculate the cost of a figure?

I've heard that some people have a utility or just know how to do it.

Key-gun
08/22/2003, 11:22
I just don't think you can translate Phonex in to heroclix. She fought galactus to a standstill in what if pheonix hadn't died. to me that makes her just to powerfull for our game.

DTM
08/24/2003, 16:12
Im not sure Phoenix is as powerful as Galactus, who himself can be made into a click if well thought out. Her Dark Phoenix form, I agree, should be made into a larger figure, just because it would allow her a longer and fuller dial. Not saying follow the standard big figure 100 to 300 point range, make it higher to show her being more powerful than a Sinestro or a Sentinel.

Bob
08/24/2003, 16:41
I agree Dark Phoenix should be a big fig and she could (doesn't have to) have a varying point range to show the increase in her abilities. I don't even care about playing her, I just think that the Phoenix clix in a large translucent firebird would just look awesome!