View Full Version : Rep Solutions?
ChiRocker
08/30/2011, 17:45
Today we had some back and forth about how to fix Rep. You may notice that the green and white numbers at the top of each of your posts are gone, but you can still rep other people's posts. This is a great start to fixing the problem of REPflation that has happened this last year.
Rep was an arbitrary number that some viewed as a form of popularity while others viewed as a form of legitimacy. The truth, though, is that the top Rep holders were just a group of friends that were very liberal with their use of Rep. While this really did not affect much of the community, it did have some impact, and Typhon saw fit to change it.
He is open to suggestions and feedback, and he said that if someone wanted to start this thread, that would be the place for said suggestions. I personally think that their should be a "Like" system similar to Facebook where each quality/funny/rep-worthy post has a number attached to it as to how many people have liked it, but that each individual person has no number associated with them.
This would also allow the person who likes the post to leave the short private comment like we have been able to. These are just my suggestions, but I have seen others with similar suggestion.
Now, I would like to open it up to anyone who has an idea about what they would like to see in a reputation system, but keep in mind that Typhon is limited to the software that he uses.
Thrumble Funk
08/30/2011, 17:50
Thrumble Funk likes your "like" idea.
h2raider
08/30/2011, 17:52
I approve of this message
This would work for me, too.
I suspect the only thing that might be a problem is that if it worked as a "Like" counter for an individual post that would probably be more of a drag on the system than a given Rep number for each person, as we had.
If there's any persistent number assigned, it'll be linked in the minds of some to status, and there are some who are simply driven - often without any malice - to game such a system.
If the Rep system sticks with numbers and a rep score, then keep it the flat +1 -- one vote per person -- system that seemed to be played with earlier today.
It's not as if we really needed it anyway.
Sure, it's nice to have a spot where we can see collected in one spot that people liked what we had to say, but I remember a long while back when part of the fun of that was being able to look back months and longer at such things, and to see what was written in the Rep sections of others. When those two features disappeared I figured it was in the former case a matter of system space, and in the latter the problems that arose from Member C getting to see the approval given to member A by Member B for the put-down post A did on C.
If it's going to cause more headaches than something positive, then let it disappear.
KillerSavage
08/30/2011, 18:34
I like Chirockers idea. I think even just a counter for messages might be fine as well even though that might be getting too close to the old system we had before. Personally I think how it is right this minute is perfect. No numbers but you can leave a message telling people you liked their post.
Thrumble Funk
08/30/2011, 18:39
I like Chirockers idea. I think even just a counter for messages might be fine as well even though that might be getting too close to the old system we had before. Personally I think how it is right this minute is perfect. No numbers but you can leave a message telling people you liked their post.
Actually, this too. Same effect without the caste system.
Both have merits, though!
The current system just masks over the visible parts of the rep button while allow you to continue to leave feedback. I do believe that a "LIKE" style would be better, but as it's already been said .. having a unique number at the post level would be a waste of resources and not very useful. That being said; I think to compile it at a user level and to expand the number of visible items on the user profile may be better.
Thoughts?
robedestroyer
08/30/2011, 18:41
The only thing I'd like to see changed about the way it works right now is for a little icon to pop up where your rep score once was whenever you get a new message. Maybe a little "green light" icon or something.
KillerSavage
08/30/2011, 18:49
The current system just masks over the visible parts of the rep button while allow you to continue to leave feedback. I do believe that a "LIKE" style would be better, but as it's already been said .. having a unique number at the post level would be a waste of resources and not very useful. That being said; I think to compile it at a user level and to expand the number of visible items on the user profile may be better.
Thoughts?
Are you saying something similar to the "like" but only the poster would be able to see it? You may have to elaborate. I'm somewhat of a computer retard for lack of a better word.
KillerSavage
08/30/2011, 18:54
I will say I have turned my rep numbers off multiple times but couldn't see the messages that way. So eventually I would get tired of turning it on and off to see the messages. Like I said I think the way it is now is great.
The current system just masks over the visible parts of the rep button while allow you to continue to leave feedback. I do believe that a "LIKE" style would be better, but as it's already been said .. having a unique number at the post level would be a waste of resources and not very useful. That being said; I think to compile it at a user level and to expand the number of visible items on the user profile may be better.
Thoughts?
I'm thinking if the User of an account can only see their own rep and not everyone elses that that might be of some help. Somewhat like what KillerSavage suggested. As well as being able to leave a message to the person whom you have given rep to so they can know why they have been given said rep.
And like Miraclo suggested, putting it on a "+1" basis, one rep = 1 point.
I'm neither a Twitter nor a Facebook user, never have been, so I'm none too familiar with the "Like" button idea, but it seems, from what I've read on the previous thread, that "Like" is more or less the same as Rep.
And for the record, I'm still against the idea of putting the sub-threads for Marvel and DC comics into one thread.
AlienFlanders
08/30/2011, 19:07
I like the ability to leave messages about a funny/informative/useful post, without cluttering a thread with a "What he said" post.
Are you saying something similar to the "like" but only the poster would be able to see it? You may have to elaborate. I'm somewhat of a computer retard for lack of a better word.
You're a Win 98 program trying to run on a Vista OS in a Win 7 world.
Don't feel bad. I'm a Win 3.11 for Workgroups program trying to run on an XP OS in a Win 7 world.
The current system just masks over the visible parts of the rep button while allow you to continue to leave feedback. I do believe that a "LIKE" style would be better, but as it's already been said .. having a unique number at the post level would be a waste of resources and not very useful. That being said; I think to compile it at a user level and to expand the number of visible items on the user profile may be better.
Thoughts?
I like getting (and, of course, being able to see) the comments, so that's most of it for me. If things stayed as they are now, even, that much would be reasonably served.
It's such a minor matter on such a generally fun and (to me) indispensable fan resource site that if doing anything more with it is going to be a problem, just let it rest.
Anything numerical and someone's going to game it, so then the question becomes "Does that matter?" It seems (as has been said) the weighting of Rep is what allowed it to get out of hand. If points are to be attached, then keep it a flat 1 pt per Rep, regardless of who's giving it. Moving one grain at a time, and not having a power group to curry favor with would likely short circuit most of the perceived problem.
If someone has a new spin on and idea for this, I'd be interested, but I get the impression it's all been said by now.
I come to the site almost entirely for Clix news, use of the units section, and for interaction, as I've met some cool, fun and interesting people here. The positives far outweigh the negatives, and that's only gotten to be more the case as I limited my time in General Discussion. Anything that's going to get in the way of all that - and take the Admin's time away from keeping that going - probably isn't worth the energy.
Handle it however seems most reasonable and sustainable for you, and we should be fine.
And if it's a matter of server space, you can always delete threads that are old and unused. I mean, there must be a hundred or so threads I created for the weekly comicbook releases that are still around. And not to mention ones Dark Crisis use to post weekly. So much trash build-up takes up server space.
Of course, the sad part is if you announced that that was what you were going to do, you'd get a bunch of nut jobs going back and trying to revive threads from 2005 or whatever. Best to use stealth.
Repulsor rage
08/30/2011, 19:31
I said this a while back but if for every certain amount of rep points, you got a post missle that could destroy another post thatd be cool lol
Not sure really what would be a good fix. I kinda miss seeing what a person was repped for.
And if it's a matter of server space, you can always delete threads that are old and unused. I mean, there must be a hundred or so threads I created for the weekly comicbook releases that are still around. And not to mention ones Dark Crisis use to post weekly. So much trash build-up takes up server space.
Of course, the sad part is if you announced that that was what you were going to do, you'd get a bunch of nut jobs going back and trying to revive threads from 2005 or whatever. Best to use stealth.
I'm such a packrat, though, I hate to throw much of anything away. I like being able to look back at and remember the details of when we were eagerly anticipating the release of Xplosion, etc. While I understand the practical matter behind storage space, I can't rush to endorse wiping anything out. Then again, I may be too sentimental to make a good admin. ;)
Sometimes the hard choices have to be made, and functionality today and tomorrow may have to trump yesterday.
I agree with Miraclo- I like to see the comments, the number doesn't matter so much. If there was a way to see all the rep comments we've accumulated, that'd be even cooler (though I admittedly don't know much about how much space such things take up, and would rather have the site functioning at max capacity rather than be able to look back at my past awesomeness).
JackAssterson
08/30/2011, 19:36
BRING BACK THE LIME POPSICLES
Oh, and the titles we used to have. Those were kinda cool. You don't need a number, but I liked the titles.
Not sure really what would be a good fix. I kinda miss seeing what a person was repped for.
Even better was being able to see their warning points.
darius_dax1
08/30/2011, 19:39
I am glad it's gone...at least in the current iteration. It turned into something totally worthless (instead of only kind of worthless) when the rep whor..I mean "farmers" started to falsely inflate their eg...*ahem* "scores".
chrisdosmil
08/30/2011, 19:43
I like seeing when people send me a message for a funny post I made. I like knowing that I made a person laugh, since I am unable to hear their laughter. As long as we keep that i think that would suffice for me. I do like the "liking" a post idea as well.
Try a like system with two inputs: one is a raw "score" that just tells you how many posts by a particular user has been repped with the second number being the total number of times you are repped.
Example: Typhon has been "liked" 42 times. He has 675 comments.
This makes it so it's a +1 system, but also an aggregate total.
Captain Castle
08/30/2011, 19:59
Thrumble Funk likes your "like" idea.
I miss your old avatar :(
/dislike
gambitrmp
08/30/2011, 20:09
When I got rep, I looked at the page & thought it was nice that someone liked my post enough to do that so I check my user CP screen every once in a while to see if a new one popped up or not but the overall numbers never meant anything to me.
I say let people leave nice little messages for one another like they can do now & forget about tracking the number of times they get rep. Not really important to me anyway.
spideyguy51
08/30/2011, 20:13
What is rep for?
JackAssterson
08/30/2011, 20:15
What is rep for?
Back in my day you were given a monthly stipend that was equal in dollars to your rep score.
Nowadays I'm too busy running my own private island fortress to pay attention to the vagaries of rep.
Thanks, Typhon! :cool:
Captain Castle
08/30/2011, 20:15
What is rep for?
Well it actually serves a very distinct and sometimes useful socio-psychological function, allowing members of good standing and interesting humor to stand head and shoulders above the crowd, while
It's e-peen
saturnflight
08/30/2011, 20:30
I like that people can rep me, and leave me comments. I like that I can check the User CP to quickly check what threads I wrote good stuff in. I like knowing my own number, just for the fun of it.
If we could only see our own numbers, that would be just fine.
Back in my day
Wasn't that when the Kaiser was still in power in Germany ???
tyroclix
08/30/2011, 20:41
I'm such a packrat, though, I hate to throw much of anything away. I like being able to look back at and remember the details of when we were eagerly anticipating the release of Xplosion, etc. While I understand the practical matter behind storage space, I can't rush to endorse wiping anything out. Then again, I may be too sentimental to make a good admin. ;)
Sometimes the hard choices have to be made, and functionality today and tomorrow may have to trump yesterday.
Its only hard for the first thread. After that the freedom you feel makes continuing easy.
Its only hard for the first thread. After that the freedom you feel makes continuing easy.
And if you can get it on film, you too can have a Reality TV show all your own.
tyroclix
08/30/2011, 20:53
And if you can get it on film, you too can have a Reality TV show all your own.
Rep, oh wait...
I think it's all about "where"; as in where would these numbers show? We're clearly not talking about crediting it at the post or thread level ... so just in the profile page? Or does it need enough visibility to be under the Avatar in every post? It's all about Location, Location, Location. :)
I would "Like" ChiRocker's idea... if HCRealms had a "Like" button...
I think it's all about "where"; as in where would these numbers show? We're clearly not talking about crediting it at the post or thread level ... so just in the profile page? Or does it need enough visibility to be under the Avatar in every post? It's all about Location, Location, Location. :)
Visible only to the person who recieved the rep and kept on the same line as the rep was prior to today ???
theavengerthor
08/30/2011, 21:10
I think it's all about "where"; as in where would these numbers show? We're clearly not talking about crediting it at the post or thread level ... so just in the profile page? Or does it need enough visibility to be under the Avatar in every post? It's all about Location, Location, Location. :)
I don't think you want it visible on every post under everyone's avatars. It "means" too much if its on display like that. And honestly, I don't think I'd suggest making the Rep messages public at all. I will admit that I have at times left specific and snarky messages about people in Rep messages that I have made. I think that needs to stay private between you and the person you are Repping. No reason to have someone get their feelings hurt because I was in a bad mood last Tuesday.
KillerSavage
08/30/2011, 21:14
I don't think you want it visible on every post under everyone's avatars. It "means" too much if its on display like that. And honestly, I don't think I'd suggest making the Rep messages public at all. I will admit that I have at times left specific and snarky messages about people in Rep messages that I have made. I think that needs to stay private between you and the person you are Repping. No reason to have someone get their feelings hurt because I was in a bad mood last Tuesday.
Right. I often used it as a private visitor message almost.
We need to get Rep shown again. How else will I know how cool I am?
Keep Rep the way it is right now: nothing visible, just a way to let other people know you sass what they're saying.
Roderic_Cliche
08/30/2011, 21:26
However it's worked out, a visible indicator that rep or a comment has been received is nice. For me, that indicator used to be the changing number; now, something else would be much appreciated.
Whatever you choose to do is fine by me.
But I will toss this out there from the other board I frequent (SaintsReport.com).
They have a completely meaningless thumbs up thumb down per post count. Basically the idea was to cut back on people posting....
+1
...all the time
However, now every tenth post is somebody wondering why they got thumbs down. And that post subsequently gets about 200 thumbs down.
My suggestion is to have a THUMBS UP per post and no other option. In theory you get a positive count with no negatives to create sob stories.
PS. BudPalmer said I dont know Jack, but I beg to differ.
However it's worked out, a visible indicator that rep or a comment has been received is nice. For me, that indicator used to be the changing number; now, something else would be much appreciated.
How about every time you get rep, an image of a sumo wrestler doing a hulu or belly dance pops up and he's got your rep number pasted on his belly?
That way, he'll get fatter as you go along. Like, you get to ten, he gets a lil fatter. Then you get to 100 and he gets even fatter. Then you get to 1000 and so on and so fourth. And have neg rep back so he gets thinner every time someone Neg-Reps one of your posts. It'd be like one of those fad games/toys from a few years ago with the electronic pet you have to take care of. A "Tamagotchi"
jbship628
08/30/2011, 21:37
On a sports message board I belong to (Arrowhead Pride), instead of having a rep number for the individual person, people can simply "rec" the post they like.
If enough different people "rec" the post, it gets changed a different color. That's it. As far as i know there is no lasting "value" assigned to a post that turns colors. It's just an easy way to see posts that people like.
You could still attack some sort of comment that goes to the author of said post, much like the rep does now, but instead of adding to that person's rep total and leaving a message, you simply leave your message, and people can still click the link and go and see their post in beautiful Dorothy in Oz technicolor.
PS. BudPalmer said I dont know Jack, but I beg to differ.
I didn't know we've met before.
I don't think you want it visible on every post under everyone's avatars. It "means" too much if its on display like that.
Maybe this should be the approach to start off with? Thinking this through:
- The current system needs to be reworked, replaced, or otherwise removed.
- It an be argued that any system that ranks the member individually, as opposed to the thread, will eventually lead us to the same place we are now.
- Ranking the threads isn't a legitimate option for technical reasons/server space/other technical issues above my pay grade.
That leaves you at eliminating rep, keeping the current system (since changing won't make that much of a difference since it will all end up back here anyway), or finding a way to diminish the subjective power of rep points to those who feel it has value.
Maybe the best way to diminish its importance is to make the user go through a couple of clicks before finding the number of his/her fellow realmser as suggested above by theavengerthor?
I would love to see the thread rated, as opposed to the member, but completely understand that it is not a practical solution.
darius_dax1
08/30/2011, 23:27
I like the idea of "liking" an individual post and let the post have the
"rep".
KillerSavage
08/30/2011, 23:32
I like the idea of "liking" an individual post and let the post have the
"rep".
It would actually take it more towards it's intended purpose anyhow.
The thing that worries me about there not being the numbers is there is no incentive for people to be friendlier. It will probably stop folk from trying to hard to be funny and foster some better discussions.
maddragon13
08/30/2011, 23:35
Kill the whole rep system. It serves no real purpose in the grand scheme of things around here. Better to do away with it than to put a new system in place that people will eventually find a way to abuse just like the last rep system.
darius_dax1
08/30/2011, 23:43
It would actually take it more towards it's intended purpose anyhow.
The thing that worries me about there not being the numbers is there is no incentive for people to be friendlier. It will probably stop folk from trying to hard to be funny and foster some better discussions.
People like posts on Facebook (and many other sites) all the time without getting some type of karma-credit for it.
Kill the whole rep system. It serves no real purpose in the grand scheme of things around here. Better to do away with it than to put a new system in place that people will eventually find a way to abuse just like the last rep system.
If it is 'repping' posts I don't think it can be abused. Let the post gain the rep...an individual user can only rep a post once. The user whose post it is will not have a total 'rep score' associated with their accounts but the posts will keep the rep.
Kill the whole rep system.
Kill 'em all and yet a computer forensics expert sort them out.
It serves no real purpose in the grand scheme of things around here. Better to do away with it than to put a new system in place that people will eventually find a way to abuse just like the last rep system.
If it doesn't serve a real purpose, then who cares if someone abuses a new system of the same thing ???
what is the purpose of rep?
what is the purpose of rep?
Exactly!
Ninja text.
red king
08/31/2011, 08:27
It would actually take it more towards it's intended purpose anyhow.
The thing that worries me about there not being the numbers is there is no incentive for people to be friendlier. It will probably stop folk from trying to hard to be funny and foster some better discussions.
I don't TRY to be funny.
Sometimes it just happens.
Like when you step on a banana and fall down a flight of stairs breaking your collar bone and hitting your face on the window in the door at the bottom and scaring a little girl who screams which startles a group of birds who take to flight in front of a little old lady who sidesteps them accidently bumping a woman into traffic where she is hit by a bicycle delivery guy who was eating a banana!
The funny part is I hate birds.
songwriterz
08/31/2011, 09:17
[COLOR="Blue"]People like posts on Facebook (and many other sites) all the time without getting some type of karma-credit for it.
Yes, but Karma is a Chameleon; it comes and goes. It comes and goes.
I don't TRY to be funny.
Sometimes it just happens.
Yeah, but looks aren't everything.
what is the purpose of rep?
I suddenly get a flash of the Monty Python song "The Meaning Of Life" going through my mind.
MEsch1974
08/31/2011, 10:13
Being a relative newcomer to the Realms, the concept of Rep was something I had to wrap my brain around. Incidentally, I'm also a relative new FB user. So, I'm familiar with the "Like" button there. I gather for FB, "Like" is simply a way of acknowledging approval in some form or other of whatever someone posts, without cluttering up the thread with a bunch of meaningless "Ditto"'s, "I agree", etc. I gather from this discussion that the intent for rep is the same here.
What seemed opaque to me was how a user "earned" rep to spread around to others. I like the idea of having someone be able to give a post (and the poster) acknowledgement for a well-written post that is thoughtful, funny, whatever. I've also used rep to people in trade negotiations that did not culminate in an actual exchange, but were handled politely & professionally, as opposed to simply ignored.
Having a mechanism to report abusive posts that are flames or negative is a necessity for a forum, and allows members to police their own, as well as to alert moderators to spam posts that are off-topic. I moderate the forums over at IWF.net (the HrC site), and primarily I delete posts from users trying to hawk everything from bootleg DVD's to prescription medications, and that have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of HrC. That function is necessary, IMO.
Similarly, if a lower-grade function to have someone disapprove/disagree with a given post was available, I can see the inherent problems that could cause. Realistically, that can be addressed with another comment in the thread outlining the disagreement, yadda, yadda.
All kidding aside, what would be the benefit to the user to accumulate rep? Some esoteric popularity contest? A way to stratify users' status on the basis of their 'witty' postings? If it's simply for no other benefit, then really, there's no value to the system. If at certain levels, added "tweaks" to the user's capabilities are added, say the ability to add a custom badge for the space near the avatar, or a user-title, then the system becomes a bit more meaningful. Yes, I am aware that some of these perks are available for certain levels of donors to the site for its maintenence & upkeep.
On the same note, user rankings are similarly opaque to this relative newcomer. I've seen my "ranking" change from "Rookie" to "Member", and suspect/expect that the more I post over time, this will change... maybe? Perhaps rep/likes/user credits/whatever could be a similar function, but with a renown ranking of some sort, below this user ranking, but above the avatar? Assuming of course, the system is still in place, and not scrapped entirely.
supremepontiff
08/31/2011, 10:35
i think we should be awarded Schrute Bucks if we make a good post. we can trade 20 of these Schrute Bucks for a paid day off the realms.
-RmL
I'd love to have a way to see the best posts of the day.
My thought on how to implement it would to add Like buttons, as others have mentioned and some listing where I could see the most liked posts of the day, or the most liked posts in a given thread.
ChiRocker
08/31/2011, 10:48
Being a relative newcomer to the Realms, the concept of Rep was something I had to wrap my brain around. Incidentally, I'm also a relative new FB user. So, I'm familiar with the "Like" button there. I gather for FB, "Like" is simply a way of acknowledging approval in some form or other of whatever someone posts, without cluttering up the thread with a bunch of meaningless "Ditto"'s, "I agree", etc. I gather from this discussion that the intent for rep is the same here.
What seemed opaque to me was how a user "earned" rep to spread around to others. I like the idea of having someone be able to give a post (and the poster) acknowledgement for a well-written post that is thoughtful, funny, whatever. I've also used rep to people in trade negotiations that did not culminate in an actual exchange, but were handled politely & professionally, as opposed to simply ignored.
Having a mechanism to report abusive posts that are flames or negative is a necessity for a forum, and allows members to police their own, as well as to alert moderators to spam posts that are off-topic. I moderate the forums over at IWF.net (the HrC site), and primarily I delete posts from users trying to hawk everything from bootleg DVD's to prescription medications, and that have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion of HrC. That function is necessary, IMO.
Similarly, if a lower-grade function to have someone disapprove/disagree with a given post was available, I can see the inherent problems that could cause. Realistically, that can be addressed with another comment in the thread outlining the disagreement, yadda, yadda.
All kidding aside, what would be the benefit to the user to accumulate rep? Some esoteric popularity contest? A way to stratify users' status on the basis of their 'witty' postings? If it's simply for no other benefit, then really, there's no value to the system. If at certain levels, added "tweaks" to the user's capabilities are added, say the ability to add a custom badge for the space near the avatar, or a user-title, then the system becomes a bit more meaningful. Yes, I am aware that some of these perks are available for certain levels of donors to the site for its maintenence & upkeep.
On the same note, user rankings are similarly opaque to this relative newcomer. I've seen my "ranking" change from "Rookie" to "Member", and suspect/expect that the more I post over time, this will change... maybe? Perhaps rep/likes/user credits/whatever could be a similar function, but with a renown ranking of some sort, below this user ranking, but above the avatar? Assuming of course, the system is still in place, and not scrapped entirely.
The way rep worked is that everybody had a rep score and repping power. Repping power was how much rep you gave when you repped a post. It was tied to 1% of your rep score and your post count somehow. The problem was that when you got a group of friends who were very liberal with their repping power together, everybody increased their score exponentially.
A while back, there was a user named Savaged_Puck, and he was a mod for WOWRealms when that existed. He posted just over 300 times, but he decided to use his mod powers to give himself 10M rep. At the time that the "Ogres" started (a group of friends very liberal with their repping power), 10M was a crazy amount of rep. Second place had 2M rep, and it had taken him from the start of the rep system to get there. The Ogres decided to game the system to push him off the first page. After that, we really dialed it back a lot, but it was a monster on the rampage at that point. Yesterday morning, 5 Users game 2.5 times Puck's rep score every time they repped anyone.
I'm still going to have to research the "Like" idea ... but out of this I know that we definitely want to see all comments, not just the 10. I'm fine with that. It may have to wait until I get the software upgrade done; since it doesn't make a lot of sense to modify software that will be upgraded soon. Lots going on ... I really wish there was a way I could get more programming help.
ctrosejr
08/31/2011, 12:16
I suggest a system of Rep and "Like"
I think Rep should:
- be associated with a account/user (e.g., ctrosejr's rep)
- be able to be seen by other people
- be a +1 (no weighting for other members' reps)
- be only given once (i.e., once I have given rep to someone I cannot give it to that same person again. The only way you can grow rep is by having someone else rep you.)
Posts should have a "Like" button, which would also be a one person, one +1 vote system.
Giving rep or hitting the "Like" button should allow the user to leave a comment for the other user.
robedestroyer
08/31/2011, 12:35
Okay, here's an idea...
We don't have any button. Nothing. If you want to leave someone a message, you send them a PM. No numbers. No counters. Nothing.
Give poor Typhon a break. He's got enough work to do.
ChiRocker
08/31/2011, 12:37
Okay, here's an idea...
We don't have any button. Nothing. If you want to leave someone a message, you send them a PM. No numbers. No counters. Nothing.
Give poor Typhon a break. He's got enough work to do.
It's all about the 1 click option to then tie the comment to the certain post. I agree that it is unneeded, but it is greatly appreciated.
I really wish there was a way I could get more programming help.
My boss found a way to do that years ago. He married a programmer. Worked for him.
Tho, to be honest, he doesn't know anything about programming himself. So, he had to marry her.
chrisdosmil
08/31/2011, 12:59
My boss found a way to do that years ago. He married a programmer. Worked for him.
Tho, to be honest, he doesn't know anything about programming himself. So, he had to marry her.
I don't know if Typhon would be willing to sleep with your Boss's wife. Why would you want to break up your Boss's marriage?
docsweeney
08/31/2011, 13:13
I like the LIKE idea and should rep you for it but...wait a minute. Isn't that defeating the idea? Oh well, it's still a good thought!
bill4935
08/31/2011, 15:19
My suggestion is to have a THUMBS UP per post and no other option. In theory you get a positive count with no negatives to create sob stories.
The guy pretending to be Jackassterson is right.
I really like the system used by the site BoardGameGeek.com. You can give a positive thumb to a post you like, and the only negative you can assign is to report the post as being spam/offensive/illegal (which HCR already has). People can see how many thumbs they've got and which posts of theirs were best liked. There's no extra thumb power to give out if you have a high number of thumbs.
If HCR needs a special limit of how many thumbs you can give a specific person in a year... well, you gotta plan for a wide range of users, some of whom are gonna game the system.
I'm not asking for this exact system to be used, just pointing it out as having a few attractive qualities.
I was using the rep system as a crude way to judge how my articles were received. (The system isn't crude, but I was using it for something it wasn't designed for). But it only showed the previous 10-12 reps received, right? So I had to look quickly after each article to compare the newest 5 to the previous 5.
As for the issue of space in general, I would remove any post more than 2 years old. The game is changing very quickly and this not only would speed searches and the site in general, but would remove a lot of obsolete information. In a perfect world, the entire history of the site forums would be available on a special "Archive Search" page... but that sounds like a lot of work.
omegarobb
08/31/2011, 15:28
I think I am in the minority, but I like it the way it was. I found it a nice challenge to get that number up. If it does not mean anything just keep it the same. It was a fun game with in the realms.
I don't know if Typhon would be willing to sleep with your Boss's wife. Why would you want to break up your Boss's marriage?
I was going to say one thing about getting his own, but then I thought about it and, well, the boss does go on a lot of business trips leaving her home with the two kids. She may be lonely in the night. Maybe Typhon wouldn't have to marry, just give 3 to 4 non-stop hours of hot kinky loving.
Unless he's not into petite blondes with 34 D cups. Then there may be trouble.
Captain Castle
08/31/2011, 20:59
I don't know why we are changing it. I couldn't care less what my rep number is, I just like checking my user cp to see if someone liked my posts. It's really the best part of my hcrealms day
gambitrmp
08/31/2011, 21:53
I don't think you want it visible on every post under everyone's avatars. It "means" too much if its on display like that. And honestly, I don't think I'd suggest making the Rep messages public at all. I will admit that I have at times left specific and snarky messages about people in Rep messages that I have made. I think that needs to stay private between you and the person you are Repping. No reason to have someone get their feelings hurt because I was in a bad mood last Tuesday.
Forgive me if someone already pointed this out but there is a private message function for what you're talking about.
phantalien
08/31/2011, 22:02
Rumor is that you can spot someone who reps too much by their hairy palms. :p
Oh. So no more Rep numbers?
That's sad. I actually came back to HCRealms about two months ago solely because I saw I had a high rep number. I reset my donor status, made custom avatars and posted funny things mostly becuase I wanted to see if I could get my Rep up to 1m before my post count hit 1,000.
It was the main reason I was logging in each day and posting.
Oh well ? :confused:
Rumor is that you can spot someone who reps too much by their hairy palms. :p
That's not rep'ing. That's just when someone posts an exciting comment or is overly admiring someone.
I like that people can rep me, and leave me comments. I like that I can check the User CP to quickly check what threads I wrote good stuff in. I like knowing my own number, just for the fun of it.
If we could only see our own numbers, that would be just fine.
Yes, I agree. Especially with seeing my own #s. It's the "proof" that I've entertained someone.
It's far better than seeing postas clogged up with "I agree" or such.
Though having the rep recieved based upon a fraction of the senders score is/was pretty worthless IMO.
Just add up all the times I've been repped, convert them to +1s instead of x millions & make it so that only I can see my own score.
i think we should be awarded Schrute Bucks if we make a good post. we can trade 20 of these Schrute Bucks for a paid day off the realms.
-RmL
Best idea ever!!
incredible
09/01/2011, 07:56
Yes, I agree. Especially with seeing my own #s. It's the "proof" that I've entertained someone.
It's far better than seeing postas clogged up with "I agree" or such.
Though having the rep recieved based upon a fraction of the senders score is/was pretty worthless IMO.
Just add up all the times I've been repped, convert them to +1s instead of x millions & make it so that only I can see my own score.
You can still see your own number.
Just look down.
Had to do it.:rolleyes:
Just click your own rep button, it will show you your rep points.
I think I am in the minority, but I like it the way it was. I found it a nice challenge to get that number up. If it does not mean anything just keep it the same. It was a fun game with in the realms.
this.
If it's a meaningless system , and if it ain't eatin' nothin'..leave it alone.
KillerSavage
09/01/2011, 08:09
You can still see your own number.
Just look down.
Had to do it.:rolleyes:
Just click your own rep button, it will show you your rep points.
That's interesting. I don't think I've ever clicked on my own rep button. Was it always like that?
framuschuck
09/01/2011, 08:57
I worked hard for my rep. Not happy.
I worked hard for my rep. Not happy.
me too.
If you knew some of the things I've done to get rep!
*shudder*
red king
09/01/2011, 09:26
me too.
If you knew some of the things I've done to get rep!
*shudder*
Pictures or it diddnt happen.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Full blown HD Blu-Ray Video. With Dolby Surround Sound.
I just wouldn't suggest using the term "Like" if that's the kind of system that's going to be used. Those Facebook guys might sic their lawyers on everyone involved and that'll be the end of the realms.
Thrumble Funk
09/01/2011, 10:15
I just wouldn't suggest using the term "Like" if that's the kind of system that's going to be used. Those Facebook guys might sic their lawyers on everyone involved and that'll be the end of the realms.
I'm partial to a Hate/Hate Less system.
ChiRocker
09/01/2011, 10:37
That's interesting. I don't think I've ever clicked on my own rep button. Was it always like that?
Yes, and you can see anyone's rep on their public profile.
ATrainWreck
09/01/2011, 10:39
How about a line of thumbs up or smiley faces for the post being repped - so if it gets 5 people that likes the post then it will have 5 thumbs up on it..:a-fist::a-fist::a-fist::a-fist::a-fist:
Essentially repping the post made and not the postee....:noid:
:rolleyes:
MaxFortune
09/01/2011, 11:19
I worked hard for my rep. Not happy.
Yeah, I have to along with this. If we can't see the numbers, there's no point in having a rep system in the first place.
Thrumble Funk
09/01/2011, 11:26
Yeah, I have to along with this. If we can't see the numbers, there's no point in having a rep system in the first place.
Well you can, but others can't as easily. I don't mind that so much. My e-peen can remain unwaggled.
songwriterz
09/01/2011, 11:54
Schleppin' your way thru the 'net today
Takes all the time ya got
Gettin' some rep for all that postin'
Sure does help alot
Why'd you take my rep away?
Sometimes you wanna post
Where everybody reps your name
And you know they're glad you came
You wanna be where people see
You're really on your game
You wanna post, where everybody reps your name
Crackin' a joke to bring some smiles
Makes ya less uptight
Gettin' some rep when you help a noobie
Let's you know you done it right
Why not rep my post today?
Sometimes you wanna post
Where everybody reps your name
Cuz you know there ain't no shame
In reppin' a pal who makes you smile
And gettin' repped just the same.
You wanna post, where everybody reps your name
<<yeah, I guess this place is like my own little personal, virtual "Cheers". Sue me.>>
MaxFortune
09/01/2011, 12:43
Well you can, but others can't as easily. I don't mind that so much. My e-peen can remain unwaggled.
I enjoyed seeing other posters' numbers jump right after I repped them.
Thrumble Funk
09/01/2011, 12:54
I enjoyed seeing other posters' numbers jump right after I repped them.
That is fun. Especially for young'uns/newbsez.
Well you can, but others can't as easily. I don't mind that so much. My e-peen can remain unwaggled.
but:
whenever my GF and I see a green VW beetle, we yell "Peen!"
Green + Punchbug = Peen.
this could be problamatic.
rollinsolo
09/01/2011, 13:17
I don't mind not having rep. A like system would be cool.
Jarimy123
09/01/2011, 13:31
I never saw the point of rep besides a way to distract us from when we are on the realms at work. And give me a slight ego boost considering for awhile there I forgot what a vagina was. Now that I am more confident in myself, thru changes I've made in real life, I feel like I should be able to repped in real life. I plan to construct a small TV screen that I will wear on my arm. When people like the way I look, or I say something hilarious, which is all the time, they can tap the screen and my real life rep will go up. It was be glorious.
Lofcutus
09/01/2011, 13:38
I concur, rep is (and always has been) a toy! You took away Neg rep (just because I used it so much, i'm crazy-person certain of it :) ). Get rid of rep all together and just start handing out Chicken Wings for noteworthy commentary.
ChiRocker
09/01/2011, 13:41
It was be glorious.
I sure hope so?
Jarimy123
09/01/2011, 13:56
nothing to see here. move on.
FHZebedee8
09/01/2011, 14:09
Why not just increase the amount of time needed between repping somebody? If you can only rep somebody once a month, it means that the Rep-Buddies club won't outstrip everybody else nearly as quickly.
Jarimy123
09/01/2011, 14:23
the Rep-Buddies club
Who are these winners and why haven't their names been posted yet so we can give them a big congrats on being bigger d-bags then I am. I mean seriously who has time to sit around, gather other idiots, and formulate a plan to rep each other over and over each day. That could be the biggest boner move I've read about on this site - ever. I can't stop laughing thinking about these clowns. Seriously, this thread is now the best thread ever.
I'm partial to a Hate/Hate Less system.
How about "Respect" and "Disrespect" ???
Yeah, I have to along with this. If we can't see the numbers, there's no point in having a rep system in the first place.
I enjoyed seeing other posters' numbers jump right after I repped them.
I could've sworn you said earlier (on another thread) that you weren't interested in this thread.
Who are these winners and why haven't their names been posted yet so we can give them a big congrats on being bigger d-bags then I am. I mean seriously who has time to sit around, gather other idiots, and formulate a plan to rep each other over and over each day. That could be the biggest boner move I've read about on this site - ever. I can't stop laughing thinking about these clowns. Seriously, this thread is now the best thread ever.
The mind wanders.
robedestroyer
09/01/2011, 14:43
[EDIT] Not worth it.
Jarimy123
09/01/2011, 14:48
[EDIT] Not worth it.
It might earn you some fake rep though bro.
chrisdosmil
09/01/2011, 14:55
I don't need rep to know that I'm special. My mommy and daddy tell me I'm special every day.
Jarimy123
09/01/2011, 14:56
I don't need rep to know that I'm special. My mommy and daddy tell me I'm special every day.
Sure they don't.
I don't need rep to know that I'm special. My mommy and daddy tell me I'm special every day.
Sure they don't.
Sure they do. Every day, after his mittens are pinned to his coat and he gets on to the small bus to get to school, he's told he's special.
chrisdosmil
09/01/2011, 15:12
Sure they do. Every day, after his mittens are pinned to his coat and he gets on to the small bus to get to school, he's told he's special.
Don't be jealous.
Sure they do. Every day, after his mittens are pinned to his coat and he gets on to the small bus to get to school, he's told he's special.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Captain Castle
09/01/2011, 20:33
Who are these winners and why haven't their names been posted yet so we can give them a big congrats on being bigger d-bags then I am. I mean seriously who has time to sit around, gather other idiots, and formulate a plan to rep each other over and over each day. That could be the biggest boner move I've read about on this site - ever. I can't stop laughing thinking about these clowns. Seriously, this thread is now the best thread ever.
You never saw some of Brazil's threads
MEsch1974
09/01/2011, 22:46
The way rep worked is that everybody had a rep score and repping power. Repping power was how much rep you gave when you repped a post. It was tied to 1% of your rep score and your post count somehow. The problem was that when you got a group of friends who were very liberal with their repping power together, everybody increased their score exponentially. ...
Thanks ChiRocker for bringing this Noob up-to-speed. :)
MaxFortune
09/01/2011, 22:48
That is fun. Especially for young'uns/newbsez.
Yeah. Took me three whole days here to get to 5,000 posts. And boy is my keyboard tired.
Crazy Bee
09/01/2011, 23:27
Personally I like the fact that rep is hidden and would be fine with keeping the system as it is now. I've heard (now we're getting into urban legend territory) that high rep has been used as a form of making one's point more valid.
What honestly does making the rep system visible on posts do for the realms? Best thing the rep system offers as far as I can tell is a way to send a positive message to someone who made a valid point on a specific topic. Or to thank someone for a timley answer or spoiler. Neither of which need to be publicly displayed.
I think the best thing is to keep rep but keep it hidden. It allows the positive feedback to keep going without turning into a status chase.
JackAssterson
09/01/2011, 23:55
. I've heard (now we're getting into urban legend territory) that high rep has been used as a form of making one's point more valid
For what it's worth, I never saw anything like this. I mean, the top rep folks pre-farming -- KituShel, Rokk, hail_eris...are folks who I've always thought had pretty decent reputations *outside* the numbers.
Frankly, if anyone did try it, the torrent of mockery that would inevitably follow would seem to be counter-productive.
AlienFlanders
09/02/2011, 01:06
For what it's worth, I never saw anything like this. I mean, the top rep folks pre-farming -- KituShel, Rokk, hail_eris...are folks who I've always thought had pretty decent reputations *outside* the numbers.
Frankly, if anyone did try it, the torrent of mockery that would inevitably follow would seem to be counter-productive.
From memory it was in the trade area, and yes the guy got shot down pretty quickly.:)
minideadpool
09/02/2011, 02:32
Rep always seemed kind of silly. Just by browsing or hanging out on the forums. You can tell whom are the very well respected members are. Be it for their game knowledge or trade reputation. A like feature sounds neat though.
CarlosMucha
09/02/2011, 02:56
BRING BACK THE LIME POPSICLES
Oh, and the titles we used to have. Those were kinda cool. You don't need a number, but I liked the titles.
Even better was being able to see their warning points.
Lime Popsicles?! :surprised :confused:
I thought they were Suppositories of Kryptonites! :surprised
How about you can only receive rep one time from each person?
They can rep you and give you a message but your rep score is the number of people who liked you at least once
Also, disengage rep from mafia games - that right there is the major repflation source
bill4935
09/02/2011, 07:46
the top rep folks pre-farming -- KituShel, Rokk, hail_eris...are folks who I've always thought had pretty decent reputations *outside* the numbers.
The real JackAssterson is right.
But without rep, I'll probably look at post count or donation status if I want to gauge the importance of a post. Saves me time trying to decipher bad spelling - as spelling seems to improve at around 1,000 posts. (Well, not really, but poor spellers don't last that long.)
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 09:19
Lime Popsicles?! :surprised :confused:
I thought they were Suppositories of Kryptonites! :surprised
You want to "fix" the rep system??...
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CarlosMucha again. This, THIS needs to be fixed.
Thrumble Funk
09/02/2011, 09:31
Wow, things kinda went south on this thread, huh?
I have that book!
Doctor Omega and the Suppositories of Kryptonites.
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 11:46
Wow, things kinda went south on this thread, huh?
Good. Beer, biscuits, and barbecue for everyone! :cool:
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 11:49
I could've sworn you said earlier (on another thread) that you weren't interested in this thread.
I wasn't. Then you brought it up.
Ergo, I blame you.
And I already asked you to stop following me around.
And I already asked you to stop following me around.
Umm... since I'm the one who told you it was here and have posted here well before you had, it is you who are the follower. And I'm the one you're following.
Wow, things kinda went south on this thread, huh?
It's just one more thing for me to be blamed for.
KillerSavage
09/02/2011, 13:53
Umm... since I'm the one who told you it was here and have posted here well before you had, it is you who are the follower. And I'm the one you're following.
I'm not so sure. If you told him to come here and you were waiting for him then I think it's still stalking. Clever trick around a restraining order if you ask me. I think you would still have to leave once you were made aware you were in violation though.
Why do I know this? Maybe Mr_JTR will find out. How you doing buddy? :laugh:
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 14:09
I'm not so sure. If you told him to come here and you were waiting for him then I think it's still stalking. Clever trick around a restraining order if you ask me. I think you would still have to leave once you were made aware you were in violation though.
Why do I know this? Maybe Mr_JTR will find out. How you doing buddy? :laugh:
I just now repped you for this.
Um...did anything happen? Did you get any points? ####, who knows anymore... :disappointed:
I'm not so sure. If you told him to come here and you were waiting for him then I think it's still stalking. Clever trick around a restraining order if you ask me. I think you would still have to leave once you were made aware you were in violation though.
Why do I know this? Maybe Mr_JTR will find out. How you doing buddy? :laugh:
I'm beginning to think someone doesn't know what "JTR" stands for.
I just now repped you for this.
Um...did anything happen? Did you get any points? ####, who knows anymore... :disappointed:
And that someone else isn't telling.
KillerSavage
09/02/2011, 15:27
I'm beginning to think someone doesn't know what "JTR" stands for.
And that someone else isn't telling.
Jail Time Required. You still look like good stalking bait to me.
Jail Time Required. You still look like good stalking bait to me.
Nope, that's not what it stand. Nor yet a foreign skipper.
KillerSavage
09/02/2011, 16:21
Nope, that's not what it stand. Nor yet a foreign skipper.
I got it now. Still does't sway me. Now I'm even more interested that I know you are a celebrity.
I got it now. Still does't sway me. Now I'm even more interested that I know you are a celebrity.
Eh, I got a PM yesterday from a mod who needs a dictionary, doesn't like me and wants me to stop derailing threads. So, I'll drop any and all subjects not related to this thread's original subject.
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 18:04
Eh, I got a PM yesterday from a mod who needs a dictionary, doesn't like me and wants me to stop derailing threads. So, I'll drop any and all subjects not related to this thread's original subject.
Oh, wait. Let me guess. I won't name him, but his initials are...
initials
KillerSavage
09/02/2011, 20:24
Eh, I got a PM yesterday from a mod who needs a dictionary, doesn't like me and wants me to stop derailing threads. So, I'll drop any and all subjects not related to this thread's original subject.
Well you didn't mention anything about a crowd. I guess I'm out.
Oh, wait. Let me guess. I won't name him, but his initials are...
I always thought it was some way to bypass the naughty language filter.
Learn something new everyday.
MaxFortune
09/02/2011, 20:58
Neidermeyer says the principal's putting you all on double secret probation.
And it will go on your permanent records. Your PERMANENT records.
Firelord Hero
09/02/2011, 22:05
Its the same common theme.
Everyone wants to be validated on the interwebz for their E-Ego. It's a desperate cry for attention and I couldn't care less about Rep. Arbitrary is the only thing that needs to be said about this topic.
This thread makes it sound as if this is something important that the forum should be focusing on. Lulz.
Go back to facebook for your daily self esteem boost, folks.
Ignatz_Mouse
09/02/2011, 23:36
Neidermeyer says the principal's putting you all on double secret probation.
And it will go on your permanent records. Your PERMANENT records.
Oh yeah? Well don't get so distressed.
Did I happen to mention than I'm impressed?
/Femmes
Gentlegamer
09/03/2011, 08:26
I like getting (and, of course, being able to see) the comments, so that's most of it for me. If things stayed as they are now, even, that much would be reasonably served.
It's such a minor matter on such a generally fun and (to me) indispensable fan resource site that if doing anything more with it is going to be a problem, just let it rest.
Anything numerical and someone's going to game it, so then the question becomes "Does that matter?" It seems (as has been said) the weighting of Rep is what allowed it to get out of hand. If points are to be attached, then keep it a flat 1 pt per Rep, regardless of who's giving it. Moving one grain at a time, and not having a power group to curry favor with would likely short circuit most of the perceived problem.
You were singly responsible for my Rep skyrocketing from under 10K to about 300K over the course of week or so. :p
So now the measuring stick is back to Join Date and Post Count . . . the way god intended. ;)
Jarimy123
09/03/2011, 14:01
Its the same common theme.
Everyone wants to be validated on the interwebz for their E-Ego. It's a desperate cry for attention and I couldn't care less about Rep. Arbitrary is the only thing that needs to be said about this topic.
This thread makes it sound as if this is something important that the forum should be focusing on. Lulz.
Go back to facebook for your daily self esteem boost, folks.
I always thought facebook was a way for me to legally stalk. Huh.
Firelord Hero
09/04/2011, 20:58
I always thought facebook was a way for me to legally stalk. Huh.
Oh yeah, your that other 10% of facebook users. Sorry, my post didnt pertain to you. :laugh:
Captain Castle
09/05/2011, 09:21
You were singly responsible for my Rep skyrocketing from under 10K to about 300K over the course of week or so. :p
So now the measuring stick is back to Join Date and Post Count . . . the way god intended. ;)
I'm 50% badass then
Munchoboy
09/05/2011, 09:37
Neidermeyer says the principal's putting you all on double secret probation.
And it will go on your permanent records. Your PERMANENT records.
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! :a-fist:
:p
TimoSupremo
09/27/2011, 12:50
Now I know why nobody has taken me up on my rep offer over on my PUMP IT & DUMP IT thread to breakdown the DUMPS into made/unmade characters... :disappointed:
I had noticed that the rep points were gone from our posts and really, it left me wondering for a while now. It wasn't until now that I found this thread that I realized what was going on.
Before such a rep offer like that mentioned above would have been answered within minutes. I really was surprised at first but now understand that without rep the incentive to post something that requires extra time or effort is almost nil...
Some of us check our rep comments daily. Some of us enjoy rep... so what??? It dosen't make us any better or worse as human beings. I don't feel justified any more or less by it, but IT IS SIMPLY PART OF MY DAILY RUTINE TO SEE THE NICE REACTIONS OF OTHERS. Honestely, I for one would really miss the rep system and think that removing the rep totals from posts was a step in the right direction but eliminating it would take away from my HCRealms experience.
I won't lie, I mildly enjoyed the rep point system as it was a measure to gauge how much of an impact my or others posts make (not that this is by any means life-altering, but let's get over it...this is a site were interactive posting is a main attraction). I do have slight interest in seeing my rep points go up every once and a while... it was sort of like obtaining a personal high score on a video game or something, rep for me was a personal challange to post the highest quality post possible.
Rep just adds an extra bit of entertainment to our day. In the end, come or go, HCRealms will go on. :a-duo::a-duo:
Now I know why nobody has taken me up on my rep offer over on my PUMP IT & DUMP IT thread to breakdown the DUMPS into made/unmade characters... :disappointed:
I had noticed that the rep points were gone from our posts and really, it left me wondering for a while now. It wasn't until now that I found this thread that I realized what was going on.
Before such a rep offer like that mentioned above would have been answered within minutes. I really was surprised at first but now understand that without rep the incentive to post something that requires extra time or effort is almost nil...
Sentiments like this, in life or on the Internet or wherever, baffle me. No incentive to do something that takes extra time? The incentive is doing something well! The incentive is being appreciated. Points? I don't need no stinking points. I put a lot of work into the Evidence threads. For rep points? Whatever. People were getting more rep in the rep farming threads for much, much less effort. If I was doing it for the points, I wouldn't have bothered doing it.
It needs done, and I can do it. I was thrilled to find a way to substantially contribute to a community that was so pleasant to be a part of. That's the only incentive I needed.
You shouldn't need to get points to do something well.
Some of us check our rep comments daily. Some of us enjoy rep... so what???
Checking my rep comments is the first and last thing I do in any session with the Realms. It's fun to see which of my posts are getting some love.
Rep points? I don't think I've checked those since someone pointed out you can see them when you rep your own threads. I did it once just to see if it worked. *shrug*
Really, the only thing you can't do right now is compare your rep to anyone else's.
Thrumble Funk
09/27/2011, 13:11
Sentiments like this, in life or on the Internet or wherever, baffle me. No incentive to do something that takes extra time? The incentive is doing something well! The incentive is being appreciated. Points? I don't need no stinking points. I put a lot of work into the Evidence threads. For rep points? Whatever. People were getting more rep in the rep farming threads for much, much less effort. If I was doing it for the points, I wouldn't have bothered doing it.
It needs done, and I can do it. I was thrilled to find a way to substantially contribute to a community that was so pleasant to be a part of. That's the only incentive I needed.
You shouldn't need to get points to do something well.
Absolutely agreed.
Want to be funny? Be funny. Want to start a thread? Write an article? Do it. Do it because you WANT to do it, not for social validation. That oughtta be secondary.
minideadpool
09/27/2011, 13:34
Cant take your rep points to the grave thats for sure.
red king
09/27/2011, 13:53
Cant take your rep points to the grave thats for sure.
No, but I have cashed mine out in french fries!
candusima
09/27/2011, 14:10
Try a like system with two inputs: one is a raw "score" that just tells you how many posts by a particular user has been repped with the second number being the total number of times you are repped.
Example: Typhon has been "liked" 42 times. He has 675 comments.
This makes it so it's a +1 system, but also an aggregate total.
I'm in favor of this. It's relatively simple to keep trck of and it also lets you get a feel for the kind of reaction that the Realms gives someone. Do they post a lot and get rep, or do they post more thoughtfully and get recognition for it? Something in the middle? Or are they just ChiRocker?
TimoSupremo
09/27/2011, 17:12
Sentiments like this, in life or on the Internet or wherever, baffle me. No incentive to do something that takes extra time? The incentive is doing something well! The incentive is being appreciated. Points? I don't need no stinking points. I put a lot of work into the Evidence threads. For rep points? Whatever. People were getting more rep in the rep farming threads for much, much less effort. If I was doing it for the points, I wouldn't have bothered doing it.
It needs done, and I can do it. I was thrilled to find a way to substantially contribute to a community that was so pleasant to be a part of. That's the only incentive I needed.
You shouldn't need to get points to do something well.
Checking my rep comments is the first and last thing I do in any session with the Realms. It's fun to see which of my posts are getting some love.
Rep points? I don't think I've checked those since someone pointed out you can see them when you rep your own threads. I did it once just to see if it worked. *shrug*
Really, the only thing you can't do right now is compare your rep to anyone else's.
I agree with all of the above points.
I hope there was no misunderstanding, the last thing I do the PUMP IT & DUMP IT threads for is rep... my point was that not everbody has the same desire to contribute to the HCRealms as we do and more than once rep has been someones incentive to do something around here. The moral issues aside, I see nothing wrong with having an imaginary point system to componsate posters as an online version of apreciation and heart felt thanks.
Sure, one should have the desire to do something without compensation... but at the same time there is nothing wrong with rewarding someone for a job well done. I don't agree with rep farming and have no desire to be "top dog" in the rep column, but rep points were FUN (as in...:laugh:) to keep track of.
Back to the point, I along with many others were wondering what the state of rep was after the points all of a sudden disappeard from the posts. As I didn't see any official announcement anywhere I was under the impression that the whole rep system was scrapped when the point totals were taken away. I had no idea about the future of rep, the reasons behind the point totals disappearing or that you could see your own rep by clicking the rep button in your own posts, but I do now thanks to this thread.
As not everone checks this forum (and those that do not all do it on a regular basis) perhaps an official message explaining the changes and reasons behind them on the front page would have helped. I'm sure there are many more out there with current rep questions and doubts... :a-duo::a-duo:
Firelord Hero
09/27/2011, 18:58
I'm in favor of this. It's relatively simple to keep trck of and it also lets you get a feel for the kind of reaction that the Realms gives someone. Do they post a lot and get rep, or do they post more thoughtfully and get recognition for it? Something in the middle? Or are they just ChiRocker?
Why would you support turning this into a Facebook site for nerds? That is not necessary. Most of you seem to have Facebook. Your daily self esteem boosts should be there, enough to suffice I hope.
theavengerthor
09/27/2011, 19:15
Why would you support turning this into a Facebook site for nerds? That is not necessary. Most of you seem to have Facebook. Your daily self esteem boosts should be there, enough to suffice I hope.
But we don't get the pleasure of your company on Facebook. :)
Firelord Hero
09/27/2011, 19:18
But we don't get the pleasure of your company on Facebook. :)
Lol this is true. Imaginary Rep!
The7ofDiamonds
09/27/2011, 19:18
I personally didn't see a problem with it the way it was before. Forgive me if this sounds presumptuous but to me it seems like one of those types of things where the only people it bothers are the people that worry about it. If you don't know what I mean, I just basically mean that, it's really something that's only important if you create the importance in the back of your mind on your own. I enjoy the comments I get and appreciate it when my posts are appreciated, hah, but I could care less about the numbers - or at least the numbers values anyway. It does seem kind of... hmm... vacant up there now.
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 19:26
Why would you support turning this into a Facebook site for nerds? That is not necessary. Most of you seem to have Facebook. Your daily self esteem boosts should be there, enough to suffice I hope.
You just seem bitter about something, and its hard to put my vga_disciple on it....
Firelord Hero
09/27/2011, 19:46
You just seem bitter about something, and its hard to put my vga_disciple on it....
ROFL!
No bitterness. I just don't think any emphasis needs to be put on rep.
But I get that often, he must have been an intelligent well spoken human being. :cheeky:
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 19:51
ROFL!
No bitterness. I just don't think any emphasis needs to be put on rep.
But I get that often, he must have been an intelligent well spoken human being. :cheeky:
:noid: I guess that's all relative.....
I agree with the Rep thing, It still has its purpose. You can leave a msg about someones post that they can only read(besides Mods). Whats the importance of an imaginary number? Its like preseason BCS rankings.. :speechles
i'm fine with whatever you decide Typhon...this site is your baby.
off topic....what ever happened to VGA? i'll be honest, i never had a prob with the dude. just morbidly curious is all
JackAssterson
09/27/2011, 20:57
i'm fine with whatever you decide Typhon...this site is your baby.
off topic....what ever happened to VGA? i'll be honest, i never had a prob with the dude. just morbidly curious is all
Perma-banned.
Perma-banned.
seriously?! what in hades did he do to deserve that wrath?
sorry if this subject is touchy, again just curious. he seemed very opinionated (like me i guess?) but i never read an overly offensive post. hmmmmm...
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 21:02
seriously?! what in hades did he do to deserve that wrath?
sorry if this subject is touchy, again just curious. he seemed very opinionated (like me i guess?) but i never read an overly offensive post. hmmmmm...
He Broke forum rules.
Firelord Hero
09/27/2011, 21:07
He Broke forum rules.
Like a true crusader.
theavengerthor
09/27/2011, 21:16
seriously?! what in hades did he do to deserve that wrath?
sorry if this subject is touchy, again just curious. he seemed very opinionated (like me i guess?) but i never read an overly offensive post. hmmmmm...
It got quite ugly at the very end. I happened to see his last few posts before he was banned and they were deleted. He was obnoxious, rude and downright vulgar in his last few public messages to the staff of the site. He deserved what he got.
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 21:26
It got quite ugly at the very end. I happened to see his last few posts before he was banned and they were deleted. He was obnoxious, rude and downright vulgar in his last few public messages to the staff of the site. He deserved what he got.
I didnt want to break into detail since some people around here might consider him a martyr.:angry:
KO Bossy
09/27/2011, 22:12
I never had a problem with VGA, but I admit, talking to him, you could definitely tell that he really thought highly of himself. Believed a lot in his own hype, so to speak.
Wade Wilson
09/27/2011, 22:13
Instead of numbers it should be a penis, and when you get rep it gets longer.
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 22:16
Instead of numbers it should be a penis, and when you get rep it gets longer.
Did ou really just go there? Do you want an enzite ad on here to?! Hcrealms brought to you by smiling bob!
Wade Wilson
09/27/2011, 22:17
Hey, just trying to get us back on topic!
SlayerOfAres
09/27/2011, 22:21
I like the Rep system the Way it is now, No popularity contest.
Instead of numbers it should be a penis, and when you get rep it gets longer.
yes!
this would be great
CarlosMucha
09/28/2011, 15:41
Instead of numbers it should be a penis, and when you get rep it gets longer.
I'm not moderating reps, not even with a stick. :cross-eye
enter aqua
09/28/2011, 16:18
Instead of numbers it should be a penis, and when you get rep it gets longer.
that's just sooooo much more logical than stinking numbers! I would love this! and since everyone knows that no female has an account here why not just go ahead and do it! oh god wait... what if someone gets too much rep? :noid::noid::noid:
Thrumble Funk
09/28/2011, 16:21
I'm down with whatever. Up to and including real-life measurement.
Aegisfang
09/28/2011, 16:29
how long would my 136million rep get me? lol
ChiRocker
09/28/2011, 16:30
how long would my 136million rep get me? lol
<(136 ='s)3
that's just sooooo much more logical than stinking numbers! I would love this! and since everyone knows that no female has an account here why not just go ahead and do it! oh god wait... what if someone gets too much rep? :noid::noid::noid:
the rep weens would change to various shades of purple according to the amount of rep.
MaxFortune
09/28/2011, 20:10
I like the Rep system the Way it is now, No popularity contest.
Oh, suuuuuure -- go ahead, penalize us popular people. :p
I hate popular people! I despise the popular crowd! I LOATHE POPULAR...
*Looks at rep number*
Ooops, must be time to switch sides. Do I need to start wearing fashionable clothes?
MaxFortune
09/29/2011, 09:26
*Looks at rep number*
I wasn't supposed to tell you this, but that was mostly the rep you got when we popular kids secretly decided to hold "Have Pity on Suttkus Week".
Pity is almost the same thing as social validation, I'll take it!
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