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kdog13
03/26/2003, 18:33
somebody please give me an explanation of why the vet hobgoblin is 62pts and ultimate grenn goblin is 62 points yet all GG stats are higher and more power. how can this be?

Logan Myrddin
03/26/2003, 18:34
Simple. Game's gotten better. Hobgoby sucked.

mercer
03/26/2003, 18:38
Because Green Goblin isn't just Green Goblin, he's ULTIMATE Green Goblin!!!! Whooo-hoooo!

kdog13
03/26/2003, 18:40
no sh!%.... so why would the point formula change?

Spinebreaker
03/26/2003, 18:41
Are you forgetting about Hobgoblins amazing powers???

Incapacitate and that Final Incredibly useful click of RCE...

Spiderman is NO MATCH for the AWESOME might of the Hobgoblin.

Jason Blood
03/26/2003, 18:42
simple really Hob has Incap and Sinister Syndicate which are pretty expensive


P.S. Wizkids made them the same point value on purpose just like Mr. Hyde Vet and Captain America Vet

kdog13
03/26/2003, 18:43
thats reatarded, oh well ultimates suck bring on the originals

Gr8Alberto
03/26/2003, 18:44
I'm not sure the point formula changed (that'd be like changing a football field to 140 yards in the middle of the game). What I think one has to consider is the fact that Hobby has the Spidey enemy ability (moderately expensive) and GG has no team ability at all.

Logan Myrddin
03/26/2003, 18:45
Wow. You guys... are FOOLS! Sorry. Just had to get it out of my system Still, Hobgobs wouldn't stand a chance in a fight against spidey. Clix OR comics. It's not even FUNNY in Clix. At least in the comix it's funny...

TychesCoin
03/26/2003, 18:46
Does look a little odd. I'd bet incapacitate is a more expensive power than super strength and energy explosion. Both super strength and energy explosion are very situational powers while incapacitate is always an option when you attack (though maybe not often a good one) Don't think it accounts for the entire set of differences but it helps. Perplex has always seemed like a fairly inexpenisive power. I have no idea how willpower works out on the cost scale.

One other thought, though this is pure speculation on my part (as was much of the first part) its possible uniques get a discount on pricing since they are uniques. Technically they are less useful than non-unique characters since you can't use multiples. whether its enough of an issue to translate into a cost difference, can't say for sure. though looking at characters like the unique IC elektra makes me think its likely.

Thunderbolts
03/26/2003, 18:55
Pretty sure it was said somewhere that once JonL took over doing the points, they started using a new formula.

Darkhawk_76
03/26/2003, 19:09
Why is his points differet? Is it because he's broken?

PaxZRake
03/26/2003, 19:20
Originally posted by kdog13
thats reatarded, oh well ultimates suck bring on the originals

Most inteligent reply ever. Please people, their are people who like the Ultimates, they have every right to getting an Ultimate version of their charecter as you do getting your normal version of the charecter.

Darkhawk_76
03/26/2003, 19:28
People should be thrilled they make ANY Clix at all. I could care less who's in the next set as long as I get new HC.

Mad
03/26/2003, 19:32
>>Pretty sure it was said somewhere that once JonL took over doing the points, they started using a new formula.<<

This is how rumors start. No offense intended but I've followed pretty close what people (WK, JL, etc) and I never heard such a thing. Of course I could be wrong but I would just like to leave this comment before this goes any further.

I think the people that commented on the difference in team affiliation are on the right track here.

Melkoloran
03/26/2003, 22:28
Simple answer. Incap was overvalued.