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Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 01:03
Being as these two figures are highly undervalued in the game... I thought I would make the Special Agent, SHIELD Black Ops version from Ultimates #8.

Ultimate Black Widow

6 Range, 2 Targets

8 8 7 6 4
9 9 8 8 7 7
15 14 12 11 11 11
2 2 1 1 1 1

Stealth.. because she's Special Ops!
Incapacitate... easily explained
The Willpower on the last click represents her being out of ammo and going hand to hand and bringing out that training.

Ultimate Hawkeye

10 Range, 3 Targets

7 6 6 5 5
10 10 9 9 8
15 15 14 14 12
2 1 1 1 0

Stealth for the same reason as Widow
The different attacks represent different arrows
The increased damage represents that he IS a world class archer, you dont become an avenger by shooting suction cup arrows!

Any comments?

The_Orphan
03/29/2003, 01:06
I don't know, Black Widow and her million dollar enhancements as Hawkeye so eloquently puts it seem a little under powered for the amazing markmanship and Leaping ability she demonstrated in Ultimates #8.

Hadez
03/29/2003, 01:07
Nice!
But if you wanna do the whole Ultimate experience, why don't you create the Ultimates?
Now, THAT would be cool, and create a Hulk figure that could easily wipe out the whole team!!!!!!

webhead817
03/29/2003, 01:08
I'd give them and the rest of the Ultimates the SHIELD team ability.

Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 01:09
I thought about giving Widow even more powers.. .Like running shot and maybe some more willpower... but since we dont know exaclty what million dollar enhancements she has.......

And yes, maybe I will take my extra E Hulk and turn him into Ultimate Hulk with the Super Soldier serum

Hadez
03/29/2003, 01:09
or if we want to be creative, we could create the Ultimates Team and ability.

Hadez
03/29/2003, 01:13
Before Xplosion came out, I tought it would be cool that the next Clix expansion be ULTIMATE FORCE.
Off course, all the heroclix would be from the ultimate universe, and they could also have some uniques from Ultimate DC for cosmic Justice (I don't know about the licensing on that last one)

Grinner
03/29/2003, 01:20
I'm thinking Black Widow should have some Leap/Climb after the stealth.

Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 01:21
That's a good suggestion... Two Clicks of leap climb being editted in.

webhead817
03/29/2003, 01:25
Well, technically the Ultimates are a division of SHIELD, so giving them the SHIELD team ability would keep them in character. Anyways, like the ideas.

Hadez
03/29/2003, 01:29
You got a point there, Webhead.
But my question is: should there be a difference beetween the Marvel Universe's Shield and the Ultimate universe's Shield?
(I think there should be)

Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 01:31
Maybe if I get bored enough tonight I'll write up all the ultimates and ultimate x-men for your scrutiny

Hadez
03/29/2003, 01:32
Hey, Thanks Man!!!!
I'm sure all of us will apreciate it!!!!!!!!!
I will also try to come up with ideas for the ultimate universe Heroclix and characters!

Thunderbolts
03/29/2003, 13:02
Team Ability

ULTIMATES: This character has real street cred. Their costume and look make them real good for a movie adaptation, don't they Hollywood *wink wink*

(Hey, I enjoy the book, but this has to be said, especially after Hawkeye and Widow Matrixing it up in #8, or the fact that Fury is so obviously Samuel L Jackson)

Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 13:09
I'd have to agree.. Nick Fury IS Samuel L Jackson.. he even says so :)

As for Widow and Hawkeye Matrixing it up... i loved it :)

Ultimates movie here we come!

Angelofhate
03/29/2003, 13:20
As for the actual mod.. I was thinking of taking a swat specialist figure, paint it all black, cut off the head and put on a con artist head. i think that would be a good black widow right there.