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phonixinmi
04/03/2003, 09:33
I may be missing something here, but a viable strategy with the new Daredevil could become more common. It's simple, but here it is...

Since DD has a 9 AV with Incap, plus a double ranged attack, wouldn't it be effective to taxi him in with a doombot while having a hydra piece on your team? This boosts DD's AV to 10 and can take out 2 of your opponent's pieces in 1 attack.

Then, your heavy hitters can swoop down.

On top of all of that, super senses can help with attack dodging...

Could be good in 300+...

Any thoughts?

chess
04/03/2003, 09:46
DD is ####. lol
for 51 points, you get 4 range, incom, and super sences.
Leap climb is nice and all, but if your going to taxi him around its almost useless.
i would rather play nightwing. 8 range two attacks, Outwit, 10 attack, stealth, LC, incom, 3 damage. for only 22 more points.

phonixinmi
04/03/2003, 10:09
just considering the marvel game, though...

he's the cheapest piece with a 9AV that's capable of a double incapacitate attack. that's got to be worth something for 47 points...

chess
04/03/2003, 10:14
Not really, hes a glass jaw. One smack and bam! hes a wuss.
His threat range is only 4 inchs. A doombot can easily take him out.

XSuicidalX
04/03/2003, 14:06
I wish more powers from DC crossed over, so they could have given him CCE, which he kind of deserves methinks.

chess
04/03/2003, 14:09
Methinks DD stinketh.
There should be a LE called "DD CANNON" its alittle cannon that you shove all the useless daredevil POS peices into and shoot them at rich kids. Heck, he'd be good then.

AZS
04/03/2003, 14:12
I'm not a big proponent of needing certain support pieces, but DD really benifits from a Probability Controller on the team. First to help him hit, and then to help him dodge.

51 & 57 points is a bit rich, but the double Incapacitate is nice.

phonixinmi
04/03/2003, 14:28
No argument. Having a PC-er to assist in the roll is probably a good idea.

51 points for the Exper is definitely pricey. It all depends on how much you want the SuperSenses.

Vet Black Widow could probably replace him for 50 points. As long as you can keep her stealthed, she can double incap from range and have a tactical advantage against retaliation.

DaLuvster89
04/03/2003, 14:41
If only one f his versions was Spiderman team.
There would be a lot less complaints about him, that's for sure. Perhaps if they make an LE Matt Murdock, he will have the team ability. Then I can shell out a nice chunk of cash for a fig that should have been a R/E/V. That would be cool.

DaLuvster89
04/03/2003, 14:41
If only one f his versions was Spiderman team.
There would be a lot less complaints about him, that's for sure. Perhaps if they make an LE Matt Murdock, he will have the team ability. Then I can shell out a nice chunk of cash for a fig that should have been a R/E/V. That would be cool.

Thorgrin
04/03/2003, 15:06
I kind of like the daredevil. He's not a front line person. He's someone that harries and tries to delay/stall.

Sorry, but Nightwing is DCs version of firelord, so comparing the two isn't even a fair comparison. Before you respond to said comment, being able to outwit someone's imperviousness/invulnerability and still do 3 points is the same as doing 5 points and shrugging 2 points of it. That w/leap climb and auto-stealth puts him in the same category as firelord (though with a more shallow dial).

Yes, it's a range of four. Hench, you start tying up people with your real force, have him come in at a different angle then start using the double incapacitate. 9 isn't that low of an attack rating considering the general defense stat is now around 15-16 (as opposed to 17-18 in IC).

The supersenses is a #### shoot, but I've had someone super sense like 3 times in a row once. Also, most people downplay daredevil anyway. Are you going to outwit his super senses or are you going to out with She-Hulks invulnerability? Most people go for the latter, thus allows Daredevil some reprieve.

It would have been nice to have one version (the vet perhaps) get the spidey team ability, but he still looks good and fits in nice for his POINT value.

Wolverine_lor
04/03/2003, 16:45
I agree with thorgin i mean come on compairing him to nightwing.... And i hate it when people reply to posts and say stick in a DC peace when your talking about marvel.... anyways the daredevil fig isnt great but not sucky either hes just an ok fig... He can be used effectivly no hes not gonna be able to go in and do tons of dmg to a fig but he is useful.

PantherPriest
04/03/2003, 16:55
Personally, in comics daredevil would best nightwing, and I'd never taxi a leap climber, I have morals. And come on chess, his "glass jaw" isn't any different from his orginal's.

I also think that dd should have better than super senses, he rarely gets hit.