X-Men Suk

[waaagh1]

I just thought I'd light a fire and say that the the X-Men suck. The avengers and JLA would whoop their hide any day of the calendar. I welcome any intellectual conversation why the X-Men could never hope to reach the power level of the JLA or Avengers. Sure they have two movies, and don't getme wrong I liked the first one and await the second one but they still suck!


Henery Gyrich Rules!!! (the ultimate HC mini!....I wish)

[Angelofhate]

Professor X was betrothed and is soul mate of Lilandra, leader of the Shi'ar. With Lilandra backing the world's most prominent leader in all things psychic... as well as the cosmic pheonix force... the X-men have a good chance of fending off most foes.

But that's just a few examples.

[eskimobob311]

darn tru !!!

[Puuka]

I found the Pheonix in XP lacking, only a 9 attack? With TK and Toughness? She is an overpriced taxi that can handle Battle Fury.

E Jean grey with V Shadow cat is a better combo for the price.

[Spider_Cide]

I hate the X-Men. But I have to agree with angelofhate

[PharaohRamses]

In a clix game,the JLA or Avengers would use the same points to build a team as the X-men.In my oppinion,larger forces of low cost clix tend to take out people like Superman and Thor.All they need is a little help from Outwit.

[shin-goji]

JLA - Complete lack of Blades Claws Fangs: A treasure for whittling down even Impervious characters.

JLA - Cursed with DC genetics: a disease that dooms it to have a lackluster movie more corny than the Batman TV series, while the X-Men have an excellent track record.

[Angelofhate]

I could go on about how the X-men are worthy of facing foes like the JLA and Avengers, but he asked for intelligent conversation and I have yet to see a rebuttal from him :-D

Besides, who's going to F* with Emma Frost... well, in the violent sense.. ;-)

[drgnoftyr]

x men also has the only hss ability available right now which is pretty useful if used right

[Angelofhate]

I don't know if he's speaking Comic terms or 'Clix terms. Cause if he wants to talk clix terms... HSS, X-Men Team Ability (hard to kill the little bastards), Lots of mind control, BCF....

And so on..

And so on...

Yay for nightcrawler!

[Psylockeslover]

You forget the perplex...As far i I can recall, X-men are the only ones with perplex.

[Angelofhate]

As well as Jean Grey and Beast being Support figures somewhere in their Dial.

[DoomX]

Someone mentioned that the JLA has no BCF, true but eventually they will have a few more people besides Arthur Curry and Superman with Close Combat Expert. a much more reliable (and therefore better in my opinion) power.

Someone mentioned that X-Men have better movies than any DC people. Did you somehow miss the first two Batman movies? The third was even pretty good, while the 4th was yes trash. X-Men the movies wasn't all that great, in fact it was almost bad. But it was fun.

[JAYTANIST]

Let me add on the movie subtopic that has really only been in the last few years that Marvel has been a part of good movies. Does anyone remember the Fantastic Four or Captain America?

[Angelofhate]

Waagh1 brought up the movie issue.

Now I'm confused, is this a Clix vs Clix battle, Comic vs Comic, or is it Corporation vs Corporation, as in who makes the higher revenues.

[hellboy19]

Captain America was awful!! Ears... on the mask!?

In comic continuity, I say between Phoenix, Proffessor X, Wolverine, Storm, and Cyclops, the X-Men pretty much have all their bases covered. Phoenix and the prof deal with the likes of Supes and Captain Marvel, while Cyke, Storm, and Wolvie take out the rest. In HeroClix, the X-Men have a waaaayyyy better range of powers than the JLA or Avengers, but that's just my opinion.

Force of the universe versus alien, I'm giving it to the force of the universe.

[farmer]

is it just me or did you think the X-men got the better of the avengers in the ultimate war. and remember, the avengers *or ultimates or whatever) suprise attacked them. Colosus whopped up on thor and Iron man.

[Angelofhate]

Collosus dropped Iron Man to 25% use.... in one hit. Not to mention the tidal wave of ice that Bobby Drake rode in.

[CquinnO27]

Professor X was betrothed and is soul mate of Lilandra, leader of the Shi'ar. With Lilandra backing the world's most prominent leader in all things psychic... as well as the cosmic pheonix force... the X-men have a good chance of fending off most foes.

Humm, mind reading huh? Lilandra eh? The Shi'ar?

they can back the X-men all they want

Then I guess Thor might have to call a few of his relatives and friends from Asgard. I do believe they are called ... GODS!
And heck, why not let Hercules do the same with his pals from Olympus. Let me see ... yup that would be more Gods.

Lilandra and the Shi'ar, lol. You really walked into that one with both eyes closed huh?


Mind reading? Mind read all you want freaks, and aliens. I really think it would make for a good show before the Avengers and two different armies of ... get this, GODS! wipe their A$$ with you.

Mind reading, d@mn that's tight. maybe you could take out Starfox, Wasp and Ant-Man before the heavens fall.

[nuclearbash]

The x-men are much better in the comics then in clix wolverine can charge and regenerate much better in comics then he ever could in clix
Cyclops was good in close and ranged combat
jean gray could do phsycic blasts
and pheonix could beat firelord(nuff said)

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by DoomX
Someone mentioned that the JLA has no BCF, true but eventually they will have a few more people besides Arthur Curry and Superman with Close Combat Expert. a much more reliable (and therefore better in my opinion) power.

Someone mentioned that X-Men have better movies than any DC people. Did you somehow miss the first two Batman movies? The third was even pretty good, while the 4th was yes trash. X-Men the movies wasn't all that great, in fact it was almost bad. But it was fun.

Actually, though I liked the Batman movies they weren't all that...

Killing the Joker, bad precedent...Batman NEVER kills...goes against everything he is, gritty movie hero or no...

Catwoman with her ridiculous nine lives carp?

Two Face basically being badly dressed muscle? He's supposed to be tortured as is Bats since he was a close friend...

Riddler was Ok, but just a little silly in his over the top comic craziness...

The fourth one was utter garbage...

As was the last two Superman movies...the first two were pretty good..though a little too Pre Crisis for me...

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by farmer
is it just me or did you think the X-men got the better of the avengers in the ultimate war. and remember, the avengers *or ultimates or whatever) suprise attacked them. Colosus whopped up on thor and Iron man.

For the most part they lost...

incapacitated three members...captured a fourth...

the rest escaped...

Ultimates didn't lose a single member...though Thor and Iron man were pretty messed up...


And the Ultimates are seriously downgraded for the most part...whereas the X-men, specifially Colossus and Iceman are seriously boosted.

[Zekeup32]

Cquinn: this is a X-men vs Avengers fight, not any X-men vs. the avengers and all of their godly friends they know.

I think all you guys are really underestimating Prof. X's ability. He can read your thoughts and then if he wanted to he could take it over. Thor is now working for the X-Men. Wait now Captain America is to. Also he could just put a telepathic block in your mind, sending you into a coma until he removes it. Wasp isen't to powerful when she cant move.

The Avengers, are we talking the current Avengers, or every one who has been an Avenger. I mean there have been so many incarnations of both the Avengers and the X-men that we need to be more specific in whos on each team. If were doing a battle of every Avenger ever, vs. every X-man ever, that would be a good fight. Of course Magneto would be on the X-man because he has teamed up with them on numerous occations, and Magneto could kill all the Avengers with a swipe of his hand by sending all of the iron thats in the blood stream, straight into the brain. Instant KO.

[Angelofhate]

Iceman froze every molecule of water in Legion's body in Legion Quest #4...

He could do that to others as well. The JLA arent very effective as ice sculptures at the next X-Mansion graduation party.

[Psylockeslover]

As long as we are going with comic continuity...lets not forget that Prof. X erased Magnetos mind completely (for a while anyway). It's kinda hard to fight when there is nothing up there...

[shin-goji]

If it is clix v clix we know the x-men will win every time.

[four_winds]

Xmen rule.Short and to the point.

[50cent]

yea in clix x-men would smash jla and avenger chracter with the new xplosion that came out there are so many x-men charcters beast storm they would beat the hell out of anyone

[KRoc]

with the 3 new X-men taxis, and support that the Avengers and JLA don't have, in addition to the ability to swap clicks the X-men have a distinct advantage in life.

Where Avengers and JLA come out ahead is with the free movement, they have an extreme amount of mobility with that power.

[BudPalmer]

If Nightcrawler were so inclined he could teleport with say a sword in his hand and that sword could then end up inside of anyone of the Avengers' head. He could also teleport a piece of someone away (ala Nimrod for you peeps in the know) and Nightcrawler is one of the weaker X-Men. Kitty could do the same thing that Vision pulls with semi-solidifying her hand in someone's chest or head. Any one those two could get close enough to could be handled by Xavier or Phoenix.

[Silver Viper]

First off Proffesor X could destroy everyone on the entire planet with cerebro easily, not to mention just the Avengers. He can even take the thoughts out of a groupful of people at a time. As other people mentioned, it's kind of hard to fight somebody when you don't know whats going on. So in a comic fight the X-Men would destroy the Avengers pretty darn quickly. I also think that the X-Men would win in a clix fight too. As for marvel movies vs dc movies, I'd say I like Marvel's a lot more. they have been made a lot more recently, but I like the plots a lot more. Daredevil, Spiderman, and X-Men were really good movies. I can't say the same for the last batman movie.Plus X-2 and Hulk look very good.

[BANE]

Umm...Professor X TRIED to destroy the planet as Onslaught and was stopped in his tracks.

[Cricket]

correct me if I am wrong, but didn't most of the avengers die taking down onslaught/xavier?

[JacinB]

Originally posted by Zekeup32
Of course Magneto would be on the X-man because he has teamed up with them on numerous occations, and Magneto could kill all the Avengers with a swipe of his hand by sending all of the iron thats in the blood stream, straight into the brain. Instant KO.

Just because it's a metal, it's magnetic, right?

Maybe you need to do your research before you start going on comic-based geo-physics, alright? Iron isn't metallic.

The fact that Magneto managed to pull this off once in the comics just goes to show how poorly written most of the X-men stuff really is ...

[Phil Dixon]

Originally posted by JacinB
Just because it's a metal, it's magnetic, right?

Maybe you need to do your research before you start going on comic-based geo-physics, alright? Iron isn't metallic.

The fact that Magneto managed to pull this off once in the comics just goes to show how poorly written most of the X-men stuff really is ... Maybe you need to check your own facts before you have a go at someone else? Of course iron's metallic. It is, in fact, the commonest metal in nature. It isn't always strongly magnetic (that depends on the particular alloy or chemical compound it's a part of) but it's always metallic.

[AbeNookie]

Iron isn't metallic.

eh?

[warden]

The way I see it, the Avengers look like this:Ant-Man LE 43
Black Panther Rookie 27
Black Widow Exp. 41
Captain America Vet. 62
Hawkeye Vet. 64
Hercules Vet. 83
Hulk Rookie 103
Iron Man Vet. 189
Quasar Unique 122
Quicksilver Exp. 24
Scarlet Witch Vet. 40
She-Hulk Vet. 120
Thor Vet. 187
Vision Unique 112
Wasp Unique 44
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1261while the X-Men look like this:
Beast Vet. 80
Colossus Vet. 111
Cyclops Vet. 78
Gambit Vet. 51
Iceman Vet. 47
Kitty Pryde LE 51
Meltdown Vet. 23
NightCrawler Unique 83
Phoenix Unique 85
Professor Xavier Unique 92
Psylocke Vet. 45
Rahne Sinclair LE 42
Rogue Vet. 88
Storm Vet. 52
White Queen Vet. 94
Wolverine Vet. 75
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1097I reckon that the Avengers win on points.

Andrew

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Psylockeslover
You forget the perplex...As far i I can recall, X-men are the only ones with perplex.

All of the figures with perplex (not including new LEs)

Dr Doom R
Dr Doom E
Dr Doom V
Doctor Octopus V
Mojo U
Mr. Fixit U
Enchantress U
Doctor Doom LE
Con Artist R
Con Artist E
Con Artist V
Mystique R
Mystique E
Mystique V
Doc Samson R
Doc Samson E
Doc Samson V
Beast E
Beast V
Taskmaster V
Gambit E
Gambit V
Iron Man Rookie R
Storm E
Elektra (xp)
Apocalypse Unique
Green Goblin
The Leader

[sluggo]

"Did you somehow miss the first two Batman movies? The third was even pretty good, while the 4th was yes trash. X-Men the movies wasn't all that great, in fact it was almost bad. But it was fun." - The first batman movie was really good (though really departed from the comics). Batman returns was pretty bad, but the first X-Men was good considering it was made for almost no money (when compaired to other hit, special effect movies).

As for in the comics, considering the X-Men now have Juggernaut on the team I think that they are more then able to handle a fight with the Avengers or the JLA.

[Emerald Knight]

x Men first round TKO, no doubt. If the team rosters looked like this:

X Men
Cyclops
Prof X
Wolverine
Phoenix
Beast
Iceman
Angel
Collusus
Storm

Avengers
Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Quicksliver
Scarlet Witch
Vision
Hawkeye
Ant Man
Wasp

With this lineup, the Avengers are ####ed. Ant MAn and wasp do nearly nothing. While some powerhouses, like Vixion, Thor, or Iron Man, could cause some serious hurtin for the god####ed muties. Quicksliver would be a nuiscance, always hitting you in the face and ####, but it would just take one hit from Collusus or Wolverine to incapicitate/kill him. Scarlet Witch would be a total ##### on the field, always making you trip and ####. if I were on the X Men, I would take her out first. Captain America is the most well-rounded of the Avengers, andd in my opinon, would be the most dangerous. However, I havent discussed any of the X Men yet. Wolverine would be brutal, and so would Cyclops and Collusus. Storm would be just as annoying as Scarlet Witch, and twice as hard to hit, what with the flying and all. Professor X and Phoenix could take all the Avengers by themselves, nuff said.

[bizzaro]

Wow ..lot going on in this thread.

Movies. First X-men movie was excellent and true to the comics. First Batman was a different take on Batman, but very good. 2nd was alright. 3rd was alright except two-face was done terribly and riddler didn't really tell any riddles .... the writers should've done at least 5 minutes of research before writing that script. The 4th was so god-awful that it ruptured the very fabric of reality itself (George Clooney could say a line without that terrible smug look. And Alfred done ala Max Headroom????) Really looking forward to seeing the next X-men movie.

Comics. It depends on the writer. I do recall reading the first half of X-men vs. Avengers and it was pretty much a stand still. Prof. X, Magento (he was indeed an x-man for a time), and Phoenix would tip the balance though.

Clix-wise its tough. Are we going based on 400 pt. teams? If not ..then Vet. Thor and Vet. Iron man are powerhouses. I can't think of anyone on the X-men that has outwit ...but the avengers you've got Iron Man, Capt. America, and Black Panther .... Batman, Flash on JLA. I'd tip favor to JLA or Avengers in clix-terms.

Whoever said IRON was not metallic is incorrect btw.

[midgetcreeper]

X-men is far better then the avengers and JLA in comic and clix cause professor x will just erase all of their mind and wolverine will slice them in half and then u got pheonix to worrie about :devious:

[Muddge13]

by the way when kitty phase doesnt she cause comps go berserk? so what is Iron Man made of as well Vision? Kill two birds w/1 stone.

[zaurial]

x-men are indeed very strong. with wolverine's kill skillz, cyclops's ultimate eye blasts, storm weather powers, etc., they are a force to behold. they probably could take down not only the avengers, but the ff, the cahmpions, the invaders, the defenders, heroes for hire, and most any super team out there (except probably the GL corps). the x-men are really really really strong. anyone that disagrees is not really a comic book reader. they just play clix.
and iron is a metel, dumbass.

[sluggo]

I know this is a little off topic, but I always wonder why people like Batman Returns so much. First Batman kills a 4 people this movie. FOUR!!!!!! This a guy who never kills and throws two into a burning building, incenerates another and blows up the last one. I don'tknow what was up with Penguin (need I say more?). Catwoman's orgins and character were all screwed up. All the penguins with missiles on their backs was really stupid. And how the hell did Pengiun find detailed blue prints of the batmobile? And yes it stuck with the Film Noir style of the first one, but it went (in my opion) a little too far.

[eshuroger]

X-Men is better fleshed out than the others, after Xplosion.

JLA does, however, have both Hypersonic Speed (Flash) and Perplex (Plastic Man).

My JLA team beat my friend's X-Men team, but he just wasn't expecting Blue Beetle to Force Blast Nightcrawler off the building (I don't know what he thought I put Beetle in the team for).

R Hawkman, E Booster Gold, E Steel. None of them have Phasing, but they're all really fast flyers with free movement.

[PantherPriest]

I will say one thing about xmen the movie and then never speak on it again. When it sucked it SUCKED! But when it was good, it was awe-inspiring.

I don't care whether the X-men amount to anything on a real power level or not. Their comics are usually far greater than that of the avengers; and their overall story is much more interesting. Currently I'm not happy with either.

The Avengers are almost always said to win (except this thread suprisingly) because they have so much and so many in the terms of power; and use this power more or less to it's extent on a daily bases However many of the X-men have extremely apocalyptic potentials that they constantly keep in check because the results will almost definitely be disastrous. It's like the line professor x says in the preview

"I pity the soul who comes to that school looking for trouble." Or something like that.

I am not voicing an opinion either way. I feel that this fight of all comic fights would cause globally destructive acts on either side, and I as one never wish to see this fight take place because for the results could be similar to that of nuclear war.

[LuckyJ]

Someone said there is no Outwit on the X-men. Actually, there in Invulnerable Outwit on White Queen Vet. Sure, she's not worth her points, but in an all-the-Avengers v. all-the-X-men battle, she'd lay down the hurt on Iron Man and Thor.

In comics, the JLA have a decent shot, but it goes to the X-men in the end. Simply put, the X-Men are the most powerful team ever, and here's a few reasons why:

1) Phoenix can destroy them all at once if she gets mad.
2) Prof. X can control a big portion of them to attack one another or jack them up in several other serious ways.
3) Rogue can put anyone in a coma and then use their powers against the team. This would be particularly handy against Firestorm or Martian Manhunter. Not sure if it would work on Superman.
4) White Queen is another force to be reckoned with. If the JLA can stand up to Prof X AND Phoenix they would be lucky. There's no way they can beat all three of them.
5) Magneto....Superman is the Man of Steel, right? Instant KO. HAHAHA...ok...:confused:

[JAYTANIST]

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Originally posted by JacinB
Just because it's a metal, it's magnetic, right?

Maybe you need to do your research before you start going on comic-based geo-physics, alright? Iron isn't metallic.

The fact that Magneto managed to pull this off once in the comics just goes to show how poorly written most of the X-men stuff really is ...
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I work on a blast furnace, where pig iron is made from raw ore and later processed into steel at a oxygen furnace, and I can assure you that iron is both metallic and magnetic.

[GoldenAge]

In clix terms I think the X-Men will currently win any battle due to numbers. This is hardly surprising based on the fact that an entire clix expansion was dedicated to the crafty mutants.

I’m personally waiting for Cosmic Justice before I make any decisions. With core characters like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter (to counter Prof X) and maybe even Captain Marvel and Green Arrow on the JLA roster I think even the Uncanny X-Men will find the DC Gods to be an insurmountable mountain of power.

A bit of the same goes for the Avengers. Though they are mostly complete they are still missing a few key characters (Wonder Man comes immediately to mind).

Professor X... True, he is counted among the greatest mentalists (if not the greatest) on the planet. But you folks often forget that Martian Manhunter (JLA) and Moondragon (Avengers) also rank among the greatest mentalists known. The one drawback that Prof X has is that he lacks the natural protection that Martian Manhunter and Moondragon possess. In essence his presence renders at least one X-Man useless since that team member (usually Jean Gray) must remain on the defensive at Xavier's side.

Well, its sure fun to think about a battle between these three mega groups - all at the same time. What about it, an X-men vs. Avengers vs. JLA battle royal thread??? (I'll not be the one to post another vs. thread) ;)

[GoldenAge]

1) Phoenix can destroy them all at once if she gets mad.

Is it me, or are people constantly confusing the Phoenix Force (which became Dark Phoenix) with Jean Gray?

Did I miss something? Is Jean Gray now able to access the absolute power of the Phoenix Force or is she just a very powerful mutant?

The Phoenix Force Fiasco is over. We should all bow to Byrne for killing off Jean Gray and scorn Marvel for wimping out and bringing her back.

[JacinB]

Originally posted by JAYTANIST
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Originally posted by JacinB
Just because it's a metal, it's magnetic, right?

Maybe you need to do your research before you start going on comic-based geo-physics, alright? Iron isn't metallic.

The fact that Magneto managed to pull this off once in the comics just goes to show how poorly written most of the X-men stuff really is ...
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I work on a blast furnace, where pig iron is made from raw ore and later processed into steel at a oxygen furnace, and I can assure you that iron is both metallic and magnetic.

I should have been more clear in my original statement. Iron should have been followed by 'in the blood', but alas for the loss of the edit function ...

Let me explain. The difference between the two is this:
Iron in the blood is very different from metallic iron (or the Pig Iron you make), which is strongly magnetic because the individual atomic magnets are strongly coupled together by the phenomenon we call ferromagnetism. The remarkable properties of ferromagnetic materials are a result of the cooperative behavior of many millions (usually billions) magnetic atoms acting in unison.

The iron in blood, however, consists instead of isolated iron atoms within large hemoglobin molecules, located inside the red blood cells. Although each of the iron atoms is magnetic when coupled with billions of others, they are each embedded inside your hemoglobin and are not next to other iron atoms. This causes them to remain magnetically independent, and thus largley unaffectable by Magneto's powers.

The idea of magnetizing the iron in the bloodstream also runs into a second problem: Water. You see, water is daimagnetic. If you apply a magnetic field to water, the molecules naturally produce a counter-field that is about 100,000 times smaller than the original magnetic field, thus providing a natural resistance.

As the human body is 70% water and less than .1% iron -- iron which is barely affectable by Magneto in the first place -- the water would form a natural resistance to the iron by creating a diamagnetic field.

Thus, Magneto -- Mutant Master of Magnetism -- couldn't magnetize your blood and knock you unconscious by causing it all to pool in your brain. Can't be done. Period. Got it?

[sluggo]

"Did I miss something? Is Jean Gray now able to access the absolute power of the Phoenix Force or is she just a very powerful mutant?"

Right now Jean is going through her second mutation and (I'm not 100% sure about this) but shes either gaining the same powers Dark Phoenix had or shes gaining the ability to call on and use the Phoenix force. Her and Cyclops are also on the rocks (since she found out he and White Queen were having a mental affair) so shes pretty pissed - basically don't #### with Jean.

[LuckyJ]

From X-men v. Avengers to a lesson in hemotology. woooow. Such is the nature of the HCRealms board.

:confused:

And yes, Jean Grey has access to the Phoenix power. They've also seriously boosted her natural abilities in the New X-Men. She's a biitch.

[metzgarob]

i gotta say that right now i do think that the x univers is in an overall good spot

new xmen is good when frank quietly draws it and morrisons story is little more than mediocre

uncanny is starting to go in a decent direction garney is back (that kia guy wasnt good on the book) and austen is doing ... well... he's writing it. i think that uncanny is the worst main x-book out right now. but i do really like juggernaut on the team.

xtreme- larocca is fantastic on anything and although i am a firm supporter of the anti-claremont club this is close to being the best x-book out right now

IMHO

[sluggo]

"new xmen is good when frank quietly draws it and morrisons story is little more than mediocre"

Oh come on. Quietly sucks at drawing, when he does it looks like a kid drew it. I would love it someone like Adam Kurbet took over new X-Men full time. And Morrisons been a great writer for X-Men. He's the first to show the school as it would really be, he writes realistic, violent drama filled storys that don't always need a big supervillian and when there is a big supervillian (like Nova) shes around for a long time.

"xtreme- larocca is fantastic on anything and although i am a firm supporter of the anti-claremont club this is close to being the best x-book out right now"

X-Treme is pretty good right now, but for some reason Claremont is having a big problem managing the team (he keeps adding and dropping characters for no reason) though Cannonball just joined, maybe he'll finally keep a steady roster. And Unncanny is getting a lot better.

[eskimobob311]

Can anyone fill me with Ultimate X-men? how come Cyke came back thought he was dead

[JacinB]

He wasn't dead, he was left nearly dead at the bottom of a gorge in the Savage Land. He laid there for quite a while, unable to move and drifting in and out of consciousness -- fed only by the rage he gathered from picturing Logan consoling Jean -- before he was rescued by Magneto's folks before they attempted to wipe out all of the life on the planet outside of their little hovering rock.

However, rescuing him proved to be the downfall of the Master of Magnetism as Scott regained consciousness and summoned the rest of the X-men to the previously hidden rock with a homing beacon ...

[sluggo]

and he later nailed Wolverine with a full Optic bast, because of what he did Wolverine is not longer part of the X-Men

[JacinB]

Missed that part. What issue was that in?

[sluggo]

32

[JacinB]

Ah, the one that's coming out today, right? I can't go pick that up for another ... 30 minutes or so.