YOU DECIDE what clix should be remade.

[insight]

In keeping with Stellar X's entertaining tradition, list your top 5 remakes for HC. What characters were not done justice? I'll keep score.

Captain America- Caps presence in comics means something...in clix, not so much.
Magneto- Was able to take on the entire X-men team and win...by himself.
Juggernaut - MUST have charge. No knockback and that's simply what he does.
Hawkeye - such a low attack for one of the best marksmen in the Marvel Universe?
Jean Grey- has been able to levitate herself since Marvel Girl days, let alone others.

[Thunderclese]

Captain America
Thanos
Juggernaut
Rogue
Hawkeye

[Valandar]

Magneto
Juggernaut
THANOS, BY CRIKEY!
Batman - since when does he do as much damage as Supes in a fistfight?!?!?
Hawkeye R/E

[Eternity]

They ought to give Thanos 5 clicks of impervious 5 clicks of invul, 1 click of regen, 11 clicks of superstrength. 11 clicks of Hypersonic and 11 clicks of outwit. :)

[darius_dax1]

Marvel

Quicksilver---I would make his movement hiugher and start his movement dial with 1click of charge, then move into flurry and/or hypersonic speed. I would also give him energy shield/deflection and super senses.

Captain America---He needs to be better than what he is. He should have 2 lightning bolts for ranged attacks and 1 click of ranged combat expert. Outwit and leadership would also be good. Charge and maybe leap/climb at the end of his dial.

Nightcrawler---Needs to be an r/e/v. Follow the dial for the unique with some light changes. Leap/climb late in the dial to replace HSS and phasing.

Vision---Also needs to be an r/e/v.

Antman---Also needs to be an r/e/v.

[djc]

Prof. X needs Psychic Blast
Higher attack
Higher Damage
Owtwit

This guy has the most power mind in the Marvel Universe
He has Psychic Blasted Juggernaut on almost every occasion they've met.

All he has to do is see them and they're automaticly hit.
Something like a 13 attack.

He should be able to take out U Juggernaut (without his helmut) in one Psychic Blast. (I know this is impossible but at least 3 damage as opposed to 0 throughout the dial.

He has mentalled sealed many Mutants minds from using their ability. Also he can mind control pretty much anyone so he could Owtwit Battle Fury.

Prof. X is one of the most powerful people in the marvel universe. And Should be over 100 points.

[djc]

mAgneto should be over 200 points he has defeated all of the X-men all by himself at some points.

[Spiderdude]

Bullseye - with his accuracy he should have an attack of at least 13

[BANE]

Anyone that's been a Unique needs to be a R/E/V!!!! I am not paying $25 for one figure just because they shortpacked them!

[Clark-br]

Captain America: We need a tougher version
Superman: With higher damage and less leadership
Batman: Lower damage, higher attack
Thanos: He does not fly, but is tougher in comics than in Clix
Vision: R/E/V

[AdamWarlock]

PROFESSOR XAVIER. He needs to be at least close to as good as White Queen & should be better. In other words, he needs to get PSYCHIC BLAST.

NIGHTCRAWLER. Mainly there needs to be an REV version so that all his many fans can have a figure to use of their favorite X-man that won't set them back $30!!! ALso, however, I'd like to see a swashbuckling version with some stealth and more phasing plus, of course, BCF

MOONDRAGON. Another unique desperately needing alternate REV placement; mainly because Wizkids made a major mistake by making her unaffiliated. Needs an Avengers level & a Defenders one!!!

BLOB. He could have been a very interesting figure, but instead he's just garbage. He needs plasticity for how often guys punch him and just have their arm sink into his flab up to the shoulder!

SCORPION. Ummm.... SUPER STRENGTH!!! HELLO; Wizkids?!? The guy's stronger than Spider Man!!!

[bobo7312]

apocolipse

[mark6574]

Superman = I don't care if he is more than 300 points. He should be one of the most powerful characters in the game and should never go below 2 damage.

Magneto = As people have said, he should be able to take on the X-men.

Juggernaut = His damage is ridiculous. After a couple clicks he can't hurt and invulernable figure. BAH! He should also have charge to represent the whoe "can't be knocked back" thing.

Thanos = Yes his attack rating is great, but his defences should not be so blah.

Captain America = okay... i couldn't think of a 5th one right now so I will go with the general concensus and say he should be much better than he is.

[GeorgeDaGreat]

Captain America-Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, this guy is aweful in heroclix. I took him out so fast in my JLA vs Avengers game.

Juggarnaught-This guys probably one of the strongest persons in marvel. He should have Invul on every clic, one clic of KO, three clix of 5 damage wand super stregh all down his dial. Thats how strong he is in the comics!

Nightcrawler-R/E/V needed. I am not paying $50 for a #### X Men member!

Flash unique-WHERES THE JSA TEAM ABILITY!!!!!WHAT THE HELL ARE U THINKING WIZKIDS!

Bane-As much as I love this guy as a heroclic and Bats villian he is too powerful for his cost. This guy should either be more points or reduced stats.

:laugh:

[darius_dax1]

DC:

#1 Golden Age Flash as an R/E/V w/JSA team ability

#2 Hawkman he is not pathetic as is but I would like him to be a bit stronger.

#3 Superman R/E/V just the sculpt would be nice, but I think some revisions to his powers could be good as well.

#4 Sinestro as an R/E/V.

#5 Black Manta needs a revamp as well.

[JayThor]

1. Superman with more CCE, less Leadership with his 3 damage.
2. Batman with 2 damage.
3. Captain America with Willpower and an 18 defense
4. Prof X- Psychic Blast with 3 damage, multiple arrows for MC
5. Hawkeye with an 11 attack.

[cbenioff]

1. Captain America - Willpower would solve this problem

2. Apocalypse - He should be um good and not bad. Maybe slightly respectable stats to mix with his attirbutes.

3. Jean Grey/Phoenix - Mind Control, flight, and some better range damage. Mix in a few clicks of Psychic blast with her TK too.

4. Storm - Maybe its just me but I always considered her one of the more powerful X-men. 50 points might be ok for a rookie version but the Vet Storm should be impressive.

5. Kingpin - He needs mastermind and outwit. None of this leadership junk.

Honorable Mention:

Colossus - He is like She Hulk and Doc Sampson but worse so why would I use him? On his first click or two give him TK instead of Super Strength so he can perform a Fastball Special. Up his damage or give him CCE to make up for the missing strength. Give him a higher defense too.

I would add Wolverine, Spiderman and Superman but I think we all know we are gonna see more of them anyways. One of these days they will get them just right.

I think the newer very powerful powers like Willpower and Perplex should be added to many old characters. Cap NEEDS willpower. Wolvie and spidey would also benefit from it. Many of the smarter characters from IC just got outwit or leadership. Now we have things like perplex or mastermind that should be considered for them.

[eshuroger]

Hobgoblin. If he's going to be pathetically weak, his point cost should, at least, reflect it.

Leader. Mind Control, Mastermind and Outwit.

Superman. A version that doesn't suck.

Black Manta. Ditto.

[silverdoom]

1-Thanos
2-Scorpion
3-Apocalipse
4-hobgoblin
5-all spidermans enemys should have sinester team abilty

[CosmicBeing]

Captain America
Quicksilver
Magneto
Juggernaut
Ultron
Kang

[JayThor]

I gave a list, but let it be stated, I want these remakes AFTER the rest of the characters not made are clix. One here or there is OK, but I don't want a set cluttered with character I already have, and none already made are that bad that I have to have them immediately.

[bjmc1975]

1. Superman. Vastly underpowered
2. Batman. His damage is too high, and his attack's too low.
3. Captain America. Willpower's an absolute necessity for him.
4. The Thing. He needs a higher attack; he's actually a trained, xperienced fighter, and even the Rookie should probably have a 10, E and V 11 and 12 respectively. The rest of his stats were probably just about dead on.
5. Human Torch. Even more underpoweredthan Superman; his costs should be something like 80-100-120 for his r/e/v. Every single stat is too low, and his dial's too short on top of it.

[revvy]

-a R/E/V of nightcrawler would be nice
-a quicksilver with HSS
-a prof X with PB/outwit and atleast 2 ranged targets
-a unique spikey thing with 5 damage and a higher to hit then his vet version
- A new phoenix, the dark kind, some huge fig with translucant fire bird would be nice :), or maybe just a jean grey with flight/MC/telekineses and a slightly higher begining attack value, prolly without the support


And some more skrulls/defenders/ff members :)

[Zaymac25]

I definitely agree with Superman being remade.

As far as people talking about Batman being remade with lower damage, It could happen, but I don't understand why you'd want to use a weaker fig. just because it closer to comic book reality.

The only thing about Night crawler that should be changed is, that he should have HSS and Phasing on the same dial, like they did with Enhancement and Outwit on the Promo Bats.

Juggernaut also needs to be better, along with Magneto.

The thing is, it's a game, their are certain characters that are never gong to be equal to the way they appear in the comic book. And that's why certain characters will probably never be made.

[darius_dax1]

Zaymac25,

In answer to your signature:
"You can't have everything... where would you put it?"

I would put it everywhere.;)

[autoconx]

well since the thanos sculpt is the worst in the game,...he looks like a troll or somehting, perhaps a GOOD

[autoconx]

er i got cut off there,...as i was saying, a good sculpt of thanos...

yes redo cap, ........

oh and electra, we only have 8 differnt figs of her to chose form

[iceman05]

Quicksilver with higher movement, HSS, Super Senses, etc

Captain America leap/climb, more range

Nightcrawler, r/e/v, blades/claws would be sweet

that's good enough

[DTM]

I say Flash needs a redo, with a HIGHER than 11 movement value.

Definately Captain America, his HC doesnt come close to representing how great this character really is.

Im all with Higher AV and lower Damage for Batman (yes, in order to make him a better representation to his comic book self)

Higher Damage for for Superman, so he could at least be as strong as Colossus and She Hulk.

Magneto should be remade to be on par with other Marvel HC giant Villians as Dr. Doom, Ultron and Mandarin.

Bane was made way too tough, and Doomsday not tough enough.

[seton55]

They should make an Infinity Gauntlent verson of Thanos. It would be soooo cool. Yes, he would be WAY over 300, mabey even 400 points, but he would be really cool to make a team out of.:)

[CquinnO27]

Based on sculpts alone, I would like to see Thor remade. He looks like a goofy midget.

Also I would like Wizkids to pay more attention to costume changes. For example:
Rookie Quicksilver - Green outfit
Experienced Magneto - Purple X-Men outfit
Experienced Storm - Punk Mohawk look.

These are just a few.
I know it probably costs less money to just do the standard uniforms for all three versions of the character. But we spend an awful lot of money on these products. I don't think that it is too much to ask to stay true to the comics. If only in this small way.

[groovyfunk]

Professor X - Needs to have multiple attacks for mind control with Willpower. The fact Elektra has it over Professor X is ridiculous.

Colossus - Higher attack.

Wolverine - The R/E/V needs to have charge at the beginning then go into stealth. It's nice the LE has it but it's too bad not everyone knew about this promo in the magazine.

Superman - Less on the leadership more in the Attack/Damage category.

Captain America - Needs to be close in the dial as Batman with Willpower.

Mr. Fantastic - Take him back to the drawing board...UHHH...How about LEADERSHIP!!! Higher Attack

Human Torch - R/E/V needs to have better stats all the way around. ..Especially his Veteran version.

Juggernaut - Where is the charge w/ Super Strength?

Hawkeye - Was this a joke along with Black Manta.... Let’s hurry up and Finnish so we make our quota.

I also believe, in changing with some characters you need to change rules. The fact you can charge and use B/C/F and super strength but you can not run and shoot W/ RCE is crazy…

[insight]

UPDATED 4/29/03 SEE "YOU DECIDE what clix should be made 2.0" for results!

Thanks for your input and insight!

[Scipio]

I think Aquaman should be more threatening than Harley Quin, for goodness sake.

Give him some Mind Control (even if it's a stretch), some Incapacitate, lose the Leadership, more Toughness.

Heck, give him B/C/F/ while you're at it.

[Threadbare]

There is no way on god's green earth aquaman will ever deliver 4 clicks of damage (a stunning blow) to thanos, superman or thor.

[Silver Samurai]

Hope I can slip this in: Theres a mojo, and theres a spiral figure....BUT NO @#$%^ LONGSHOT!!???!!

and wheres the cabasl/new mutants(xforce) and such....??Xplosions didnt really put in alot of "x" gene carrying folks....:)_

Oh, and , um Nightcrawler.....R/E/V is most definately in need..especially after watching X2....:)
:rolleyes:

[pyr66]

Colossus-DEF +1 and more invulnerabiltiy

Captain America-Willpower, CCE and 8 range with multiple arrows

Magneto-stats fall way to easily

Hawkeye-needs to be better all around

Black Widow-needs CCE or maybe Outwit

Doomsday-Higher Def and more clicks of CCE with solid 4 damage.

Thor-the figure only

Superman-I honestly couldn't give 2 ####s about Superman because I have never liked him. (although i like the evil versions:angry: ) However this is not the Superman I have grown to hate. He needs to be better that why i can hate him more.:grin:

[Nightwraith]

As I currently only have the Infinity set I'll only post figures from this series:

JUGGERNAUT: obviously needs Charge. No member of the Brotherhood. His damage is far too low, he's able to bash most teams on his own in the comics. Invulnerability should also stay longer on his dial (afterall, he's the definition of Invulnerable, only beatable by psychic attacks once his helmet is removed). Based on the comics he should be invulnerable to Psychic Blasts - maybe by increasing the strength of the lame Battle Fury alltogether - but this may be a bit brutal (though certainly in spirit of the comics - and it would make Incapacitate deservedly more appreciated :devious: )In the early X-Force issues he suddenly regenerates his eyeballs and there are other instances, too, so the Veteran version could be given Regeneration at his last click to make him truly an unstoppable Juggernaut.

PROFESOR X: add damage and Psychic Blast. Turning Leadership into Ouwit and/or Perplex later on would 'explain' the sudden insight in his opponents' weaknesses he almost allways finds near the end of battles.

QUICKSILVER: Hypersonic Speed is a must. Adding Incapacitate would translate his dizzying whirlwind tricks.

KANG: currently a grossly over-priced, total weener. Shape up or cost less. 'Nuff said.

SCARLET WITCH: doing things like cracking Ultron's armor time and again would be Ouwit instead of Probability Control but both are in the 'damage-slot'. How to handle this without opening the whole can o' worms of 'multi-color slots' (which would make characters like Dr. Strange as nightmarishly powerful as in the comics) is beyond me. You could give her some of the magic powers she displays in the comics later on (probably Energy Shield/Deflection) to make her less of a one-trick pony - with Black Cat and Destiny around, there's less need for it.

[sol]

Captain America - more charge, steadier decline, willpower after ES/D, additional arrow, additonal click of life

Juggernaut - Charge, more damage, lower attack value

Superman - more damage

Doomsday - More damage, slightly more life

[Brainiac 16]

I agree with pretty much everything I have seen here. If wizkids isn't good enough to make changes by releasing some sort of re-print set with fixes in it, they should at least figure out a way to make dials customizable for those who want to play with their clix as they should be.

[Joe Kerr]

Captain America- This guy should have the following powers somewhere on his dial, probably be a U with Avengers. Willpower, CCE, Energy Shield Deflection, Outwit, toughness, charge, and leadership.

Kang- Let's see. MOE probably. He should have phasing, invulernability, RCE, outwit, phasing, CCE or high damage, really he needs higher printed numbers. 10 range with 2 arrows. Pulse wave and maybe EE. Energy shield to simulate a "force field" haha. Kang is a well trained hand to hand fighter so why is his damage only 1 up close? Fix it!

Scorpion- Where the heck is the Sinister Syndicate team abilty? How about poison? The last time I checked his tail did more than just make it hard for him to sit in a plane. His dial isn't bad, but he could be a little better.

Jean Grey- She needs force blast and maybe psychic blast, hey Batgirl has it. And she needs range!

Juggernaut- He's supposed to be a one man whoopin' machine but he just doesn't get the job done like he should. Needs more damage and charge which has been mentioned a 1000 times. How about some super strength?

Human Torch- The guy is a creampuff and does nothing to reflect the hero he is. Give him some better numbers so he doesn't die with one hit.

[bam]

A brawler spidey with a higher defense than 16 and super senses. this clix could also have perplex prior to gaining outwit. that way he wouldn't have to totally rely on incapacitate to stop the guys with invulnerablity.

Spidey cant hurt the juggernaut you say?
give juggernaut, thor, and the hulk impervious for a couple of clicks and then give them some invulnerability. To balance out spidey.

Cap should have a lead click of outwit in addition to the outwit that he already has. 2 or 3 bolts would be fair considering the shield does that crazy ricochet action.

batman needs a better attack value. but he shouldn't be able to kick superman's butt too quickly. they should increase supes' defense value or make perplex last as long as outwit does.

they should really watch the overvalued points on the previous incarnations of these characters. It would be cool if there was a 135-145 pt spidey if he was effective in the game. perhaps if he could do two actions on a single turn for a push.

[pinkpanther]

They need a r/e/v jean grey/ Phoenix. l

[MarkStewart]

Black Widow - Higher attack and defense values, maybe some outwit at the end and some willpower.

Captain America - Willpower

Flash - More movement. He only has an 11? And where's that Titan team ability?

Superman - More damage, higher numbers

Professor X - 3 lighting bolts for mind control and psychic blast

[younginfluenti]

CAPTAIN AMERICA..............please the sculpt is awful.........ALso magneto and apocolypse are tooo weak. lets juice them up a bit.

go pistons

PS. IT is no superhero film but A MIGHTY WIND is great

[Anusien]

Make Batman/Superman on their Vets dual teams, so they're Batman (or Superman) team and JLA team. Also, the same for the new GLs. Also, V Superman needs to do more damage. Excuse me? Bullseye should not do the same damage as Superman.
Also, Nightcrawler should fly (for carrying figs), and have BCF. It would push him up to about 120 points, but it would be worth it.

Flash should fly (for carrying figs).

Rules changes:
HSS should let you phase, or at least leap/climb.

[insight]

THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN UPDATED!!!

PLEASE SEE "YOU DECIDE WHAT CLIX SHOULD BE REMADE 3" FOR THE RESULTS AND TO POST YOUR VOTES!

[Psylockeslover]

Originally posted by Anusien
Make Batman/Superman on their Vets dual teams, so they're Batman (or Superman) team and JLA team. Also, the same for the new GLs. Also, V Superman needs to do more damage. Excuse me? Bullseye should not do the same damage as Superman.
Also, Nightcrawler should fly (for carrying figs), and have BCF. It would push him up to about 120 points, but it would be worth it.

Flash should fly (for carrying figs).

Rules changes:
HSS should let you phase, or at least leap/climb.

Ummm...no, no, no, and no....

Hey...why don't we just throw out game balance out the window altogether....