Batgirl and Psychic blast

[Xorn]

I see it comeing a mile away. everyone is going to freak out becauser the Unique Cassandra Cain Batgirl apparently has psychic blast. (according to inquest)


Here's the interpretation:

She fights with pressure points, that's why she can ignore armor. We all know batgirl has no psychic powers, but likewise nightcrawler in the comics doesn't have super speed or phasing. They guys makeing this game try to have the effect of the powers mirror what they can do in the comics.

Hence Nightcrawler and Batgirl.

There is not "teleport" or "pressure point" abilities, so they use prexisting powers that roundaboutly do the same thing.


And that's the Buddhist healer's opinion.




BTW: I killed the white queen.

[Battletank900]

So give her a click of CCE...

Psychic blast should only be for characters with mental abilities. Otherwise you start diluting the integrity of the game.

Did I also read that Penquin has CCE????? If that's true, that's crazy!

[uroboros]

I think the problem is that this is only a ranged attack and thus not very representative of her abilities. If you could attack with a range of 1 this might make more sense. Still, if her attack was high enough, say a three to start, I could probably forgive the exclusion of CCE. Also, the Bat team ability has a tendency to make even mediocre characters exceedingly playable so I guess I'll just have to see how her stats look.

[A_Higher_Level]

Psychic Blast is definitely less powerful than Outwit. It's believed she'll have Psychic Blast first to show that she is adept at fighting enough to get through someone defenses, but not quite smart enough to cancel one of their superpowers all together.

The various superpowers used are supposed to 'represent' their abilities, and not be taken literally.

[bullseye100]

batgirl has the ability to now what a person is going to do by the way they position themselves before they act and can therefore dodge or act before the othere person has a chance to... this i guess in some aspects is psychic, and

[sol]

The only real problem with giving bat Girl Psychic Blast to represent her ability to get through defenses is that it can only be used as a Ranged Attack. If it were close or ranged, i would be all for it.

[Xorn]

Originally posted by Battletank900


Did I also read that Penquin has CCE????? If that's true, that's crazy! [/B]

"this is said in the voice of the comic book guy on simpsons"

Actually...

Secret origins Special #1
it came out in summer 89'

-Featureing Gotham city's vilest villans.


Pg: 17 tells the story of Penguin training to take out "sharkey" the thug that picked on him in old Oswalds childhood.

Turns out Cobblepot is a Karate/Judo/Kung-fu master.

[PMMJ]

Originally posted by sol
The only real problem with giving bat Girl Psychic Blast to represent her ability to get through defenses is that it can only be used as a Ranged Attack. If it were close or ranged, i would be all for it.

Yeah, but while Outwit would work for both, more Outwit is one thing the Batman team *doesn't* need more of.

[Grayson]

Okay, I was all for Psychic Blast and Batgirl.... until sol pointed out the ranged aspect of it. Maybe they'll update the FAQ to say it can be used in close combat. If not.... then I'm confused.

[Xorn]

Of course on the other side of interpreting it.....

Inquest could be confusing incapacitate for Psychic blast.


guess we have to wait and see.

[Manchine]

Yep your way off here. Now if Psychic Blast was a close combat attack sure. But its only a range combat so this is so bad.

As for Nightcrawler having HSS and Phasing. HE deserves it more then anyone.

[LuckyJ]

Manchine...

Nightcrawler deserves HSS more than anyone? Like, say, FLASH??! :tired:

Inquest is notoriously wrong about little things. I wouldn't put it past them to not know the difference between "Dark Blue," "Blue," and "Purple." It could very easily be either Incapacitate or Smoke Cloud since the guys who write this stuff don't know their a.sses from a hole in the ground.

It bothers me a bit, but I don't care too much since it's DC. I buy DC mainly for the dials and not the characters.

[Manchine]

Well he deserves it as much as the Flash. Hows that. :p ;) :p

[Magnito]

Penguin's CCE
He has pengins on his stand, he gets them to attack, although Flurry may be more realistic if that is the case

[ThePope]

I believe that Smoke Cloud is more likely than Psychic Blast or Incapacitate. Smoke Cloud makes sense for Batman Ally, and Incapacitate is already mentioned in the ad.

+<|:-)

[MarkStewart]

It's got to be a mistake. No way should Batgirl have psychic blast or Penguin CCE.

Batgirl is so easy to do as a figure. High attack and defese with supersenses, incapacitate, leap/climb and close combat expert with the Batman team ability and a six range. The CCE, high attack and Supersenses recreate her combat abilities better than psychic blast would anyway.

[XSuicidalX]

Originally posted by Manchine
Yep your way off here. Now if Psychic Blast was a close combat attack sure. But its only a range combat so this is so bad.

What if she has Psychic Blast and CCE on the same click? That would fairly represent both I think.

And people, quit complaining. The powers are representations, not to be taken literally.

[Manchine]

OK if that was the Case then I would believe it better. But For her low points I dont think she gonna have that.

[ONE-ARM]

Originally posted by Xorn
...but likewise nightcrawler in the comics doesn't have super speed or phasing... [/B]

Technically nightcrawler's teleportation IS phasing.

He goes into another plane instantaneously. The Blue cloud that forms is matter from that dimension and the WHOOSH sound is the Vacuum that the teleportation craetes to fill the space he was in inside the other dimension.

Check it out here. (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/n/nightcrawler.htm)

[Hatut Zeraze]

Maybe this is a dumb question.

All the people who hate Batgirl having Psychic Blast point out that it is a ranged attack. What if they give her character a zero range? Would that make it feasible?

For the record, I don't really think she has Psychic Blast. I'm betting it is a typical Inquest DUUUHH-moment.

[HeroComplex]

If she had a 0 range with Psychic Blast, it would mean that she was only able to use the power after having her range sufficiently Perplexed up; she would still not be able to use it for a close combat attack.

[Hatut Zeraze]

Oh, thanks.

[four_winds]

Originally posted by Hatut Zeraze
Maybe this is a dumb question.

All the people who hate Batgirl having Psychic Blast point out that it is a ranged attack. What if they give her character a zero range? Would that make it feasible?

For the record, I don't really think she has Psychic Blast. I'm betting it is a typical Inquest DUUUHH-moment.

Actually,shouldnt she get a 4 range by default like you get with Mind Control?

[HeroComplex]

Nope, for two reasons.

1) Mind Control's PAC entry tells you that even 0-range figures may use it at a range of 4; without that extremely explicit rule, there would be no special way to treat 0-range figures. Psychic Blast has no such provision and so follows no special rules for instances of 0 range.

2) Psychic Blast isn't an attack or action by itself. The power's effect is to improve upon an existing ranged attack. "Ranged combat attacks made by this character ignore any power that reduces damage;" the ranged attacks are made and can take advantage of PB, but they must exist first.

[four_winds]

Thank you for clearing that up.

[Spinebreaker]

I'm almost certain Inquest have screwed up here...

It's not exactly the first time is it???

Otherwise we have to believe that WK ACTUALLY decided to...

Represent Batgirls proficiency in hand to hand combat... Her 'close combat expertise' if you will, by giving her an attack that only works at range and is described as a mental attack.

That really is like...

"Hey, Hulk's invulnerable, I think we can represent this by giving him phasing."

[HeroComplex]

Unless people's suppositions are correct after all, and a combination of Psychic Blast + CCE will represent her proficiency at all forms of combat.

[KaiserSelroc]

I'd buy Batman having Psychic blast. He's got gas bombs and other gadgets that would have the effect of getting pasted an opponent's defenses, and cause harm no matter how tough one is. But if Batman wasn't given that power, no way should Batgirl.

[ONE-ARM]

Oh and I think Penguin's CCE would be due to all his funky umbrellas that have all sorts of gas, knives, electrocution, etc

[ludd_gang]

I don't have as much difficulty buying Batgirl's Psychic Blast as Wonderwoman and Supergirl having it too. That seems like a stretch to me...

[Spinebreaker]

Are these from ACTUAL figures or from pictures???

Wonder Woman I can ALMOST understand... Maybe for her lassoo thing they COULD get away with Psychic blast. Perhaps. at a push...

...

Maybe.

Supergirl did some kind of 'Angelic Fire' thing that would work for psychic blast as it seems to be much like Ghost rider's hellfire, only harming the evil.

But Batgirl...

CCE would be perfect...

We're gonna end up with a set like X-Plosion with pieces designed for roles in a team rather than with any ideas based on the comics...

#### shame.

[D. Byers]

Uh, kids. They posted the stats for Batgirl. She doesn't have psychic blast. It's Incapacitate followed by Smoke Cloud.

[D. Byers]

Oh, I forgot. Penguin doesn't have CCE. He has a click of Leadership and the rest are Perplex. And shame on you for believing Inquest without actually seeing the figure's stats. You're makin' the rest of us look bad.

[Valandar]

Actually, re-read the stats. The R and E both have a click of CCE.

[D. Byers]

Ok, I stand corrected. But, still, you have to agree with me on the Inquest thing.