HCRealms Cosmic Justice Exclusive - Deathstroke

[Draddog]

WizKids left this sweet exclusive in our in box, just for our members! Enjoy!
<TABLE BORDER="0"><TR><TD><IMG SRC="/images/cj073.gif"></TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><P ALIGN="CENTER"><TABLE BORDER="1"><TR><TD COLSPAN="3" ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Unit Name:</B> Deathstroke</TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Unit Num:</B> 073</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Point Cost:</B> 40</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Team:<B> None</TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Unit Num:</B> 074</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Point Cost:</B> 50</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Team:<B> None</TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Unit Num:</B> 075</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Point Cost:</B> 58</TD><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Team:<B> None</TD></TR>
</TABLE><P><B>Play Tip:</B> <BR> Popular with DC fans, Deathstroke will soon become a HeroClix fav as well. Able to move into critical positions vs. opposing teams, Deathstroke is front loaded with Stealth and the gains Leap/Climb. His 6 square range is on par for his cost, and his ability to move in two consecutive turns (due to a healthy amount of Willpower) allows him to jockey for position. He can use Outwit to remove opponent super powers or lob in Energy Explosions to blow apart squads on the other side. The veteran Deathstroke starts with a strong 17 defense and ends with a click of Regeneration. A solo artist in the comic books, Deathstroke is the ultimate team player in HeroClix.</TD></TR></TABLE>

[Jason Blood]

sweet

[MAttdman]

Looks cool !

[Miraclo]

This set just keeps looking better and better!

[paladin72]

Great sculpt. Am anxious for CJ to hit the stores. Stealth and regen. sounds great.

[Ghad]

nice, now i want an etrigan

[nuclearbash]

2nd post

looks pretty good and an ok paint job too

[daredevil11]

HA ! Well RCTpool will be excited about this, this is one of his favs that he modded -

[Bluebeard]

Wow, this was straight outta nowhere...

[DareDevil_13]

who the heck is deathstroke?

[I_Blame_You]

Wow....just as I was settling into a comfortable disappointment with Poison Ivy, they hit us with THIS!! Nice job!

[PsychoDBoy]

Noice, decent cost, sounds like a swell fig comin our way.

[Grinner]

Hoody-hoo! We got Slade!

Okay, so I'm kinda worried about him being kinda weak at these point costs, but we'll see. After all, Taskmaster's pretty good and not all that expensive, even with the MoD ability.

He's definitely going to need to be modded, though. We need his sword on his back! Although they probably didn't put it on after all the complaints about Nightcrawler having a sword & no B/F/C (presuming Slade doesn't have it either).

[Captain_Comet]

Deathstroke is a Titans (sometimes friend) Villain.
This looks awesome! Can't wait for this set.

[Badges2]

KICK @SS!!!!

[TheLion]

Deathstroke the Terminator. A major recurring villain in the Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans. A great villain and should make a great figure. He should team well with the Taskmaster in mixed games.

[daredevil11]

I wonder if this signals DC is going to put him in the new Teen Titans show starting this summer - maybe they want him promoted - we'll see . . . excited about the show though either way :cool:

[TMNT99]

how's somebody wearing bright orange gonna have stealth? oh well, sounds like he's got decent stats. he must have a low av and not many clix of life to be that cheap. cuz he got some great power combos, stealth, willpower, energy explosion and outwit.

[Bloodsword]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :p :cheeky: :eek: :p

[skeevo666]

Originally posted by Draddog
A solo artist in the comic books, Deathstroke is the ultimate team player in HeroClix


Wouldn't he need to be on the Legion of Super-Heroes to be "the ultimate team player"? :p

[Thunderbolts]

Hi Deadpool dial. :)

[zapdos]

Originally posted by daredevil11
I wonder if this signals DC is going to put him in the new Teen Titans show starting this summer - maybe they want him promoted - we'll see . . . excited about the show though either way :cool:
You mean the one starting on kids WB? Mega man: NT warrior starts soon. How do we know that this is not just a custom made up. But I'm glad he's not.

[zapdos]

He does look like a Shield Sniper.

[I_Blame_You]

Originally posted by zapdos
You mean the one starting on kids WB? Mega man: NT warrior starts soon. How do we know that this is not just a custom made up. But I'm glad he's not.

draddog doesn't post fakes.

[I_Blame_You]

Originally posted by zapdos
He does look like a Shield Sniper.

Wrong SHIELD guy, zap...

[Deathlok23]

Originally posted by daredevil11
I wonder if this signals DC is going to put him in the new Teen Titans show starting this summer - maybe they want him promoted - we'll see . . . excited about the show though either way :cool:

He is going to be THE recurring villain on the show, sometimes only in the shadows or behind the scenes, but he is going to be the one giving the Teen Titans trouble for the first season. He going to be know as "Slade", not Deathstroke though. I haven't seen what Slade is going to look like yet, but it was quoted that "he's sort of the bad Batman" by the Cartoon Network senior vice president of original animation.

[hourman]

This is rad. The set looks awesome so far.

[zapdos]

Ok ok ok. I have seen some good fakes before, I didn't notice he was member #1.

[daredevil11]

Originally posted by Deathlok23
He is going to be THE recurring villain on the show, sometimes only in the shadows or behind the scenes, but he is going to be the one giving the Teen Titans trouble for the first season. He going to be know as "Slade", not Deathstroke though. I haven't seen what Slade is going to look like yet, but it was quoted that "he's sort of the bad Batman" by the Cartoon Network senior vice president of original animation.
:
Cool :cool: Thanks for the info buddy . . . .

[jjs-thump]

Is it just me or does he look like BULLSEYE? awesome though cant wait to get him

[herosspirit]

Nice fig... He has to have mad skills if he can be in stealth while running around in bright orange undies, extra large bright orange gloves and super huge bright orange boots!

[Deathlok23]

Originally posted by jjs-thump
Is it just me or does he look like BULLSEYE? awesome though cant wait to get him

Its just you ;) If he looks like anyone, it's the original costume for Taskmaster (not the one that ended up on his Taskies clix form). Not surprising since they were both designed by George Perez back in the day.

[Weapon XII]

WOAH!!!! a 17 defense huh........This dc set is kindamarvelish................................and that's a good thing:grin:

[sol]

WHOOOOO-HOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[Valandar]

I like the sound of the stats... but I don't like the sculpt... it's too "Low-rent cartoony" with what appears to be an out-of-proportion right arm, even taking foreshortening into account.

[Comte]

how's somebody wearing bright orange gonna have stealth? oh well, sounds like he's got decent stats. he must have a low av and not many clix of life to be that cheap. cuz he got some great power combos, stealth, willpower, energy explosion and outwit.

Have any of you looked at wolverien from infinity chalange?

[I_Blame_You]

Originally posted by Valandar
I like the sound of the stats... but I don't like the sculpt... it's too "Low-rent cartoony" with what appears to be an out-of-proportion right arm, even taking foreshortening into account.

Good lord....relax.

[Valandar]

Hey, I am relaxed. Which is why I'm willing to actually take a critical look at the figure instead of going berserk that we got another preview.

I've seen outstanding figures come from recent sets, and this one just happened to be a little disappointing.

[potguns]

Does this confirm or disprove the set list so far??

[JayThor]

I think it looks great. Good dial, good points, good sculpt.
Good job, WK!

[GeorgeDaGreat]

Woo hoo yeah!

Deathstroke looks awesome!

However WK kinda confirmed that Stealth is staying on the speed part of the dial because it said something like "he has tons of stealth THEN switches to l/c". So basically stealth is staying on the speed dial. Great pose, great stats, great cost, great everything!!! :classic:

[I_Blame_You]

Originally posted by Valandar
Hey, I am relaxed. Which is why I'm willing to actually take a critical look at the figure instead of going berserk that we got another preview.

I've seen outstanding figures come from recent sets, and this one just happened to be a little disappointing.

Well, as we've learned in the past...or SHOULD have...don't judge a figure until you hold it in your hand. Two of my three Psylockes are nicely done.

[Genin]

Originally posted by Thunderbolts
Hi Deadpool dial. :)

I hear yah man. This guy is just like Deadpool in MANY ways. Wade/Slade, Deathstroke/Deadpool, etc.

[Badges2]

He was on some "unoffical list" by Spiderguy or someone... Let me see if I can find it...

[Badges2]

Here it is.... I think this is going to be the real "list" IMHO. But who knows....

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42143

[Manchine]

Ahhh who? The bad about DC characters arent as well know,



Ok I will add the last to the above.



To most people.


:laugh: :p ;) :p :laugh: ;)

[sol]

Good grief Manchine...you don't know Deathstroke??? I need to send you some Titans comics...or even the venerable X-Men / Teen Titans crossover.

[WhiteRabbit909]

Haven't seen Deathstroke the Terminator in action, but can't wait to get my hands on him.

[Manchine]

I only read a few Titans. They have a big T for a building. I really never heard about this person.

I do want Cyborg!!!

Give me Cyborg!!!

PS I do barely remember the Xmen Teen Titans crossover. Dark Phoenix marring Darksied. But thats it.

[Answerman]

I've got every issue of the guys series, right up til the end where he lost his memory and the series turned to junk anyways, maybe missing 4 issues at the end of the run...
but A deathstroke fig at less than 50 pts is just wrong...
At least Taskmaster has 2 versions that are above 50 pts, one of whaich is, what, 75 pts?
Taskmaster, is the guy who whupped Wolverine in one shot, beat BAtman twice (although lost a 3rd time) and decimated the entire New Teen Titans roster more than once...
Deathstroke without B/C/F is just wrong too...
But I will say this: if this just means that we'll get more Deathstroke figs than I'm happy as heck...
Here's hoping that Deathstroke is as good a click as he should be!

[Hellboy]

It would be cool to edit together from end to end, each of us uttering what I know we all did aupon seeing this ("Swwweeeeet"):laugh:

[Kneel_To_Zod]

I can't believe you guys don't know Deathstroke.

Deathstroke and Deadpool are similar because Rob Liefeld was a big Titans fan. He pretty much tried to copy Deathstroke for his Deadpool character. However, they gave Deadpool a Spidey personality, otherwise, they're almost the same.

Deathstroke laid the smack down on Wolvie, Storm, and Colossus in the Titains/X-Men story. Deathstroke is kinda like the Captain America of the DCU, cept he's a bad guy. He has super human strength, speed, agility, and reflexes. He also has a pretty powerful healing factor. I think he's 1-1 against the Batman. He recently went 1v1 against the new Batgirl in the Nightwing book. He has dominated Nightwing in the past.

[Kneel_To_Zod]

Btw, I agree with Answerman (thought he meant Deathstroke where he wrote that Taskmaster beat the Titans, X-Men, Batman, etc). Reading the Deathstroke description, it looks like another wimpified DC character. I guess if this is only in comparison with DC, it's ok, but in comparison to Marvel...

I hope Deathstroke at least matches up with Taskmaster. He should have stuff like running shot (shoots down opponents while on the move all the time) and BCF (he's got a huge badass sword). Still, his combo of powers look nice....just as long as they give him high AV (again look at what he's done to both Titans and X-Men). I think his range should be higher. He's blasted Storm from the sky. Oh well...

[evilspider]

I only got 2 things to say

1)cool!

2) deadpool mod!!

[Homo Arachne]

Wow, these DC sculpts are SOOOOOO much better than the Marvel Sculpts. Everything they've done has been superb, whereas I've yet to see a single decent Marvel sculpt. Has anyone seen Psylocke? Blech...

[/sarcasm off]

Seriously, while I'm thrilled the character's out and suchlike, I've yet to be really impressed by the DC previews. Maybe I'm just a Marvel Zombie, but so far, I've seen one good sculpt (Superman), one "blah" sculpt (Poison Ivy), and two that made me want to say "My God, what is that ugly thing on my computer screen?" (Starfire and Deathstroke). Again, maybe I'm just biased, but I've yet to be thrilled by the quality of the DC sculpts, including Hypertime.

That said, the set should be interesting, especially for folks like Emperor Joker (who plays at our local venue and is constantly mocked for his love of DC).

Homo Arachne

[basilisk220]

I love Deathstroke and am just glad to see they are giving him stats that are doing with justice (although why they didnt give him BCF i have no idea)

Im still not 100% on the sculpt but like a few people have said it will probably be better in person.

[LoneWolf21]

Looks interesting.

So we have two Titans so far in this set that are also in the big relaunch in July, Starfire, and Deathstroke (writer Geoff Johns has said that Slade is vilian of the first arc), hopefully we'll see at least one more Titan that keys in with the relaunch, maybe Superboy?

[thejew]

surprised he didn't come with the wildcard ability. oh well. can't wait to throw vet nightwing, vet taskmaster and vet deathstroke together. neat-o!

best characters ever!

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by Kneel_To_Zod
I can't believe you guys don't know Deathstroke.

Deathstroke and Deadpool are similar because Rob Liefeld was a big Titans fan. He pretty much tried to copy Deathstroke for his Deadpool character. However, they gave Deadpool a Spidey personality, otherwise, they're almost the same.

Deathstroke laid the smack down on Wolvie, Storm, and Colossus in the Titains/X-Men story. Deathstroke is kinda like the Captain America of the DCU, cept he's a bad guy. He has super human strength, speed, agility, and reflexes. He also has a pretty powerful healing factor. I think he's 1-1 against the Batman. He recently went 1v1 against the new Batgirl in the Nightwing book. He has dominated Nightwing in the past.

How exactly did he take out Colossus..or was this a very young, pacifist Piotr?? I mean explosives are great...but a even a shaped charge to Colossus eyes shouldn't faze him too much...

[Phantom]

I'm not sure if Slade should be ranked higher than Taskmaster. Deathstroke has beaten the Titans, but Taskmaster has gone up against the Avengers. Has Slade ever taken on the JLA?

That said, I'd totally play him. The lack of BCF hurts, but a character with Stealth, Outwit, BCF and 17 defense is just terrifying.

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by thejew
surprised he didn't come with the wildcard ability. oh well. can't wait to throw vet nightwing, vet taskmaster and vet deathstroke together. neat-o!

best characters ever!

Well, not sure if he really fits in with any wildcard teams...

The Legion would be an exceptional stretch to have him on...

At least Spiral was a villian...

[MaWziR]

:mad:

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I"M READING!! "GREAT SCULPT"?!?! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HIS EARS! AND WHY IS HE BOW-LEGGED? Has he had a "rough" night we should know about?....GOD! THEY RUINED ONE OF THE BEST DC Villians!...

:mad:

[Terman8er]

I am SO glad he got made but he was also ROBBED!!!

When I try to make Slade I end up around 120-150 points every time. And that's how he should be.

Deathstroke school the Titans, has beaten Batman 3 times in a straight up fight (w/o really breaking a sweat to boot) and lost once (when Batman used all his toys and Slade took him too lightly).

Deathstroke would KILL Taskmaster if they ever met up. Taskmaster is only human while Slade is SOOOO much more.

To make a good Slade you would have to make him a Bat-Team member and give him running shot then L/C and BCF for his sword.

As for how he took down Colossus. Slade has a power staff that has gotten through GL shields (ask Hal Jordan's crotch).

This is just another example of many that shows that Marvel clix have gotten all the love in the stats department.

[eshuroger]

I can't see that they'll do him justice with that point cost. He's less points than even the E Nightwing! Maybe they'll do a more accurate version in the future. I am glad to see Regen in the DC game though.

Would it have been so wrong to give him BCF?

[Kneel_To_Zod]

Originally posted by Jadehorde:
How exactly did he take out Colossus..or was this a very young, pacifist Piotr?? I mean explosives are great...but a even a shaped charge to Colossus eyes shouldn't faze him too much...

Think Captain America vs the Hulk. Deathstroke is probably far weaker than Colossus. So instead of doing a fist fight, Deathstroke just flipped Colossus over a cliff.

[MindsEnd]

Deathstroke and Nightwing are duking it out in Nightwing's current book.

[Kneel_To_Zod]

Originally posted by Phantom:
I'm not sure if Slade should be ranked higher than Taskmaster. Deathstroke has beaten the Titans, but Taskmaster has gone up against the Avengers. Has Slade ever taken on the JLA?

That said, I'd totally play him. The lack of BCF hurts, but a character with Stealth, Outwit, BCF and 17 defense is just terrifying.

Taskmaster hasn't defeated an Avengers roster. In his first appearances in the Avengers, he smacked Cap around and stunned Iron Man, but Jocasta chased him off. In later stories, Cap soloed Taskmaster.

Deathstroke has, on mutliple occasions, defeated the whole Titans team...easily.

Stealth, Outwit, Willpower, and 17 defense, plus Energy Explosion does sound nice. However, I bet his AV is less than 10. DC characters get shafted. Just look at Darkseid and his 8 range and 10 AV. How the heck can Bullseye have a longer range, better aim, and do as much damage as the Lord of Apokolips? Bullseye never misses with ninja shurikens. Darkseids Omega Blast can cross dimensions, cover the universe, to track down a target and disintegrate him/her...

I think Wizkids needs to look into the balance between Marvel and DC. Marvel is the far more popular comic company. So by having underpowered DC figures, you decrease the desire to buy them. Why pick up figures that are less useful than the already more popular Marvel figs. There's no fun paying 219 points for Leadership, or having 0 range Incapacitate figures (not to mention 0 range and Superman Ally)...

[Batman1983]

I love no-team pieces that are self sufficent. NO team means good cost & self Sufficient mean Willpower. outwit, stealth, & EE

[Mjolnir]

One Word:
[SIZE=4]yeah baby!!!![SIZE=4]


Ohh, now this is exciting. So far I'd like every preview we've been shown.
One possib

[Mjolnir]

anyway:

One Word:
[SIZE=4]yeah baby!!!![SIZE=4]


Ohh, now this is exciting. So far I'd like every preview we've been shown.
One possible drawback(if the rumor is true).... Martian Manhunter as a unique!!! That ranks right up there with the Nightcrawler as a unique that still chafes my arse.

:angry:

Cosmic Justice: two thumbs: waaaaaaaaay up!!!!(so far.)

[sierralegend]

:cool:

so evil...

[miridor]

Holy C@%p, now instead of individual boosters, I'm gonna have to by a case....

[Doctor Strange]

Awesome!

[monterey_29]

wish they had made him with out the mask

[the itsy bit]

Originally posted by GeorgeDaGreat


However WK kinda confirmed that Stealth is staying on the speed part of the dial

It's kind off obvious WK cannot switch powers to other slots of the dial.:rolleyes:

[Terman8er]

I wish he kept the black and blue costume he ended his series with.

[iwantmaestro]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, thats the most stupid looking fig I have ever seen! Are you guys serious about being glad to see this fig made? He looks like he´s soiled his pants and the colors MWUHAHAHAHAHAHA BONK(falling off my chair)...:laugh:

[Mayberry Bat]

Holy $#!+. I take a few hours off from checking the board and they put my favorite DC character up. Oh yeah! I can't wait to pit Slade against the Titans or Batman (heh). Relive that City of Assassins storyline where he beats the mortal hell out of the Bat.

[Gargantua]

He may not quite be an accurate representation of Deathstroke, but I suspect he'll still see a lot of play. Stealth, L/C, Outwit, Willpower, and Energy Explosion is a real nice mix of powers, and he's cheap enough to fit on just about any team. Yeah, we'll see a lot of this guy I think.

I reserve judgement on the sculpt. Looks...okay. Can't see how some people can call him as bad as some of the Marvel figures though. Have you looked closely at Shadowcat? Brrrr.

[sdkid86]

Can you say the taskmaster of DC

[Batman1983]

'taskmaster of DC'.... now what do I win?

[Tylk]

He and the Leader should get together and form the
Legion of Over Powering, Solid Color Costumed Menaces.

That said, he seems easily playable, although another low cost stealth/outwit....

[Batman1983]

yes why is Leader such a Bears fan? It took me by suprise... & I refuse to complain about sculpts so I think they both kick it... they kick it hard...

[Richard]

Bullseye
Taskmaster
and now Deathstroke.

The Poor Man's DREAM TEAM is coming together!!!

Who from DC would make this group complete?

Deadshot?

[Batman1983]

oh heck yeah Deadshot!!!!

[Richard]

Does DC still use Deadshot?

I loved him in Suicide Squad and his own mini-series.

It's nice to see someone else who shares the enthusiasm too.

[Batman1983]

Not sure if hes been used lately.... I know I saw the other Death related vigilante (whose name escapes me at this time... wait is it Deadline? no?) in 'Steel' like 5-6 years ago. I think dead shot showed up in 'Batman' a couple years back (but I wasn't reading 'Batman' at the time). I only know he was still around 5-10 years ago. Sorry my long winded answer neither answers anything nor serves a purpose (this part included :classic: )

[JacinB]

I think David Cain killed Deadshot in Batman a while back. Not sure, though, as it's hard to keep all of the blue-costumed, assassin-with-'dead'-or-'death'-in-their-name villians straight.

Either way, whoever Cain killed was supposedly one of the best assassins in the DCU. I think it was Deadshot ...

[Batman1983]

deadline or what ever wasn'tthe one cain took out, so it must be Deadshot (or just some new trumpt up guy they made so they could kill). Now that you say that I faintly remember reading something to that effect in an old Wizard issue. Of course all my Wizards are in another town in a state far far away...

[Doctor Strange]

Originally posted by the itsy bit
It's kind off obvious WK cannot switch powers to other slots of the dial.:rolleyes:

Some of us have considered that DC may put stealth in a different slot than Marvel.

....anyway

I want this team someday.
Deathstroke
Deathbird
Lady Deathstrike
Deadpool
Deadshot
Deadloc

[Batman1983]

Deadman
Death
Deadline?
Bucky... wait a tick

[xkimbal]

deadshot was recently in the JLA cartoon -- as the assassin sent to kill aquaman. Not quite sure what's going on with him in comics.

Good looking fig.

[DaLuvster89]

Looks like more cheap Outwit is headed our way...

I'll reserve judgement on the sculpt until it's in my hand, but I'm not extremely impressed from the pic. He sounds highly playable, though. I'm hoping his powers differ a lil' bit from R-E-V. The Vet sounds impressive. Man, I can't wait for Cosmic Justice...

[AZS]

He he, he's wearing a red speedo on the outside of his pants. :p

Otherwise, cool, fairly cheap versitile outwit.
Bring it on.

[Batman1983]

oh I'll bring it all right... right after CJ comes out.

[Richard]

That's how you can tell he's a GOLDEN AGE DC hero or villain. Back then they all wore them like that, except for Robin who only wore the speedo.

[Batman1983]

budum bum ching*

[Richard]

Thanks for the drum roll.

[DaLuvster89]

Doesn't everyone wear a red speedo over their pants?
I heard it was the latest trend.

[Batman1983]

true, but I hear the yellow speedos from the 70's are sceduled to make a come back in 2005.

[Basil Elks]

If there was ever a clix to make a Deadpool out of, it'd be Deathstroke.

[Batman1983]

until that wonderful day when we get a deadpool

[theCrazyEst]

Hey:

Ah.... one of the many whispers is truth!

The man is back in town!!! Long have I waited for this day! Finally Deathstroke the Terminator as a clix! Hell as a figure! I'm a huge Slade Wilson fan and although the dial sounds light as with the sculpt I'll have to reserve judgement until I can see it in person, but one thing's clear he'll need a repaint to bring the full George Perezness of the costume out.

For those who are less familiar with him he's was the Teen Titan's main foe in the hay day of the Perez/Wolfman era. He's fought Batman and handed him his arse (except for that #### that Chuck Dixon wrote) and tangled with some of the JLA's main guns during the story arc where he was America's most wanted beating out Aquaman, ExTitan Flash, and GL but lost to Sups but managed to out wit him. He also appeared as Darkseid's main muscle in Walt Simonson & Chris Claremont's X-Men Vs. Teen Titans where he took out the whole X-men team, cold!

IF I remember correctly this scupt is based off the Mike Zeck cover of the Deathstroke series issue # 27. As for my self I am also a large fan of the Black & Blue (as I call it Snake-Eyes style) costume that he ended his series in. All in all, bottom line, if it looks good in real life.. then I'm gettin' a set of the Terminator!

[Grinner]

Originally posted by JacinB
I think David Cain killed Deadshot in Batman a while back. Not sure, though, as it's hard to keep all of the blue-costumed, assassin-with-'dead'-or-'death'-in-their-name villians straight.

Either way, whoever Cain killed was supposedly one of the best assassins in the DCU. I think it was Deadshot ...

Close, but no cigar.

In the aftermath of the whole Bruce Wayne: Murderer storyline Cain was in police custody, having surrendered and preparing to testify about Bruce Wayne's innocence. Deadshot was hired to kill him. Cain managed to get a gun during Deadshot's final assault and shot him several times around the heart. All of the shots were specifically aimed to not kill him. The end of that issue is Deadshot in the hospital, having surgery. The doctors are talking about what a miracle it is that none of the shots were lethal and how he will need to be in physical therapy for a couple of years.

[SimonMoon5]

Originally posted by Richard
That's how you can tell he's a GOLDEN AGE DC hero or villain. Back then they all wore them like that, except for Robin who only wore the speedo.

Except of course, he's not a Golden Age character. You might call him Silver Age, but I bet most people would call him Bronze Age.

[olcottr]

Wow. With that point cost, he's going to be on everybody's team.

[tman]

Deathstroke's Dial using Excel dial generator

I just plugged in what we know about Deathstroke and came up with what could be a GREAT dial


8 7 6 6 6 5 5
stealth for two clicks leap climb for three clicks

11 10 10 9 8 7 6
Energy Explosion for three clicks

17 16 15 15 15 14 13 12
Willpower for four clicks Regeration on last click

3 2 2 2 2 2 1
Outwit for two clicks

Range 6 one bolt
no team ability
58.7666667 Points

SO what does everyone think ?
Close ?

[maddhatter13]

Awesome!! Now we need a Deadshot clix and all is right with the world!!

[Shellhead]

Pretty cool. As a Titans fan from the 80's, Deathstroke the Terminator was my favorite DC villain. Although his stats look a little light, I am glad to see him. He does need Blades though (but if you think about it, he almost never ended up stabbing anybody).
Judging by the previews, this set is going to have more interest for me than the first DC set because of all the previews. Titans Together!!! (yep, lame but true slogan)

[lancelot]

i have a NAGGING feeling...i know it was draddog who posted it, but i m SEEING too many similiarities to other figs, especially from marvel, but heck, i ll echo everybody...

DEATHSTROKE THE TERMINATOR!

indeedy, he s going to be on every one of my teams!

hurry up, CJ!

[psychopanda]

Shouldn't he have Toughness and/or Energy Shield/Deflection too?

At first I was kinda excited, but now it seems his stats are way off. My guess is they're going to keep BCF out of DC.

I think I'll mod the Fig to make him look a bit better too. Will have to wait to see him in person, but his head looks rather small from the pic.

[Manchine]

Originally posted by lancelot
i have a NAGGING feeling...i know it was draddog who posted it, but i m SEEING too many similiarities to other figs, especially from marvel, but heck, i ll echo everybody...


I know it seems that CJ will be like CT and XP. DC might have hope yet.

:laugh: :p ;) :laugh:

[WEAPON-XXX]

BCF will be appearing in CJ, along with Stealth, Regeneration, TK, Battle fury, and a couple others I can't recall. There's a flyer at the store where I buy all my little plastic crack.

[Gambit]

I know that everybody is going to make a Deadpool out of poor Deathstoke.
:ermm:

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by Terman8er
I am SO glad he got made but he was also ROBBED!!!

When I try to make Slade I end up around 120-150 points every time. And that's how he should be.

Deathstroke school the Titans, has beaten Batman 3 times in a straight up fight (w/o really breaking a sweat to boot) and lost once (when Batman used all his toys and Slade took him too lightly).

Deathstroke would KILL Taskmaster if they ever met up. Taskmaster is only human while Slade is SOOOO much more.

To make a good Slade you would have to make him a Bat-Team member and give him running shot then L/C and BCF for his sword.

As for how he took down Colossus. Slade has a power staff that has gotten through GL shields (ask Hal Jordan's crotch).

This is just another example of many that shows that Marvel clix have gotten all the love in the stats department.

Well, but another way to look at it, is that at the end of the day, can he take Doomsday?? Even the rookie one or a Thor? Of course not, and his clix should show that...if he was as all powerful as that then there would be some serious problems with the dynamic of the game...

[bathawk]

hmmm, have to go with the other folks in disaproving of the sculpt, Can't remember a single time Deathstroke used two pistols (pistols??) John Woo style, Grinner and Termin8tor hit it on the head, where's the sword on his back? where's his battle staff, or how about just a rifle?
I also admit Deathstroke is falling short as far as point cost, but then he dosen't have an expensive team ability either
I could stand to see a UNique version or maybe an REV in later sets showing him in his youthful, wilder, black outfit maybe just called the "Terminator" much in the way Logan/Wolverine was in two sets

[Terman8er]

Put it this way...V Deathstroke should be better than V Batman in EVERY way. So should his point cost.

This saddens me...:(

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by Terman8er
Put it this way...V Deathstroke should be better than V Batman in EVERY way. So should his point cost.

This saddens me...:(

I don't know about that...clixwise, the V Batman's a bit of a waste...but he's supposed to represent the JLA Batman...or otherwise known as BatGod...that character is near impossible to beat..and his humungous cost (for a street level character) is indicative of that...plus without a Team Power...it'd take a huge stat inflation to justify the Terminator being much higher than Bats...

[theZehrung]

looks great...but wish that he carries a long staff stick like Robin's ...he often uses it when he's combatting people...he rarely uses guns. Oh well...you cannot please everybody. :)

[Terman8er]

Originally posted by Jadehorde
I don't know about that...clixwise, the V Batman's a bit of a waste...but he's supposed to represent the JLA Batman...or otherwise known as BatGod...that character is near impossible to beat..and his humungous cost (for a street level character) is indicative of that...plus without a Team Power...it'd take a huge stat inflation to justify the Terminator being much higher than Bats...

True...but if you look at this way...he is a better fighter than Bats (so should have a higher AV) is stronger, faster more agile and regenerates.

All of which should place his stats higher than any version of Batman.

Then his "powers" should include:

Running Shot, L/C, Flurry
BCF, Incapcitate
Willpower, Regenerate
Outwit, RCE, CCE (I don't really see him with Perplex)

Then at least an 8 range and starting stats of:

10
12
17
3

and about 9 or 10 clicks of life.

[Kneel_To_Zod]

Deathstroke, in any version, could not defeat the JLA Morrison Batgod. The Dixon Batman was less than that Batgod, and he defeated Deathstroke as well. Besides, the Heroclix Batman isn't really the Batgod anyway. I mean, 9 AV? That's sad for a guy that could take out White Martians and New Gods. Now if they used Promo Batman's stats...

Keeping Deathstroke in the DCU, I think he's ok balanced. He's not super powerful, bu still very useful. I just hope Wizkids would balance DC with Marvel a bit. I always hear that Marvel is more popular because of their down-to-Earth characters compared to the godly powers of DCU icons. So you know Marvel is going to be super popular. Then you see in Heroclix a different story. Marvel has better range. Marvel has higher attack values. Marvel has better defense values. Marvel is cheaper for what you pay for. Superman is supposed to be too powreful because he can shoot a hand gun from the upper atmosphere. Why is it then, in HC, that Mandarin has far better range and the same AV?

Wizkids, you need to balance DC with Marvel if you want to sell more. DC does not have the same Zombie support, so if DC figs aren't as good as the plentiful great Marvel figs, you'll have the smaller DC fan crowd to appeal to. IC might have been a mistake, but CT and Xplosion have shown that very strong Marvel characters keeps showing up. Mandarin's 12 range shows this. After CJ, DC might only have two characters with 10 range. That's sad when Marvel already has two characters with 12 range...

[skeevo666]

Originally posted by Kneel_To_Zod
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[DTM]

Very nice, Im a big Deathstroke fan......BUT, and like many of you who have pointed it out before this, I am VERY werry of his Very low point cost. Deathstroke the Terminator is TOUGH, beating Batman, taking on the entire Titans, and successfully fighting Wolverine and Colossus, this MAXIMUM of 50ish points for his Vet makes me go :confused: .

Hes stronger, faster and tougher than Batman, and this is NOT in dispute. At that low point cost, I dont see him being the best comic to HC representation out there, which is unfortunate considering how cool the character really is.

Heres hoping Im wrong, which I can be, since Taskmaster is low costed and I LOVE using that guy. :)

[Grinner]

Originally posted by Kneel_To_Zod
Deathstroke, in any version, could not defeat the JLA Morrison Batgod. The Dixon Batman was less than that Batgod, and he defeated Deathstroke as well. Besides, the Heroclix Batman isn't really the Batgod anyway. I mean, 9 AV? That's sad for a guy that could take out White Martians and New Gods. Now if they used Promo Batman's stats...


Well, that's one of the problems people are having with this. You see, the Dixon Batman storyline where he beat Slade was the only one-on-one where Batman won. Three other storylines had Wilson take down Batman relatively easily. And that's not even in Deathstroke's own comic. Most people who follow the character agree that Dixon regularly portrayed Slade as much weaker than he was (Dixon had Slade loose to Eddie Fyers, for goodness sake!).

Yes, Batman should have a higher attack value, but I'm thinking the 13 on the promo's a little high for game balance. But Slade should have a high attack value too. After all, this is a character who regularly is hitting superspeedsters, often without even looking directly at them.

As others have said, the low point cost does have me worried. He's going to have to be an incredible bargain to match up reasonably to the character as portrayed in the comics.

[Batman1983]

ok here are some cheaper but effective powers he could have:

Toughness 3pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 3pt/ 4pt if only in first slot

stealth .3 a click

regen 1.5 per click

outwit 9pt per slot, but if not in first slot only 4.5 per slot

EE 1x # of targets, .5 x # of targets....

incap 2.5 if not in first two clicks.

CCE 3.33, 1.65, 1.65, 3.33/ 1.5 all if not in first slot

BCF 3, 1.5, 1.5, 3....

ESD .2 a click

Super Sences 2.5, 2, 2,

as you can see he could be a top heavy power house or a well balanced machine.

[KidInTheHelmet]

I have to say, after reading the last two issues of Nightwing, I'm looking forward to this figure.

[HimuraX]

Very cool:cool:

[Batman1983]

oh & the L/C & willpower hes supposed to hve cost as follows:

willpower 6, 3, 3, 6,

L/C .5 per click

he'll probably have 4 clicks of WP (which I think I have the wrong Point cost for. My research leeds me to believe its cheap than 6), 1-2 stealth rest L/C, 2 EE w/ 1-2 BCF then 1-2 incap, all WP or WP followed by tough or SS, Outwit for a click followed by CCE

this would be about this many points (on a 8 click dial)

2 targets is 4pts

speed 3.6 (2 stealth 6 L/C)

attack 11 (2 EE, 1BCF, 2 incap)

defence 24 (4 WP, 2 tough or 2 SS, 1 Regen)

Damage 18 (2 outwit at front)

stats = around 5

you have a 62 point piece

V is 58. so he may only have 2-3 clicks of EE & nothing else on attack. only 4 clicks of L/C & 1 of stealth. Like I said WP is not as expensive as this table dictates, & I feel the same about outwit (to many variables). either way w/ high stats he could rock.

[Shadow Spirit]

I am very pleased to see Deathstroke. He has long been one of my favorite villians. He has single handedly taken down the Titans and even the JLA (not the current incarnation of course). He even had his own comic for awhile for those of you who don't know him. He is an international terrorist and bounty hunter. Fun to read and no doubt he will be fun to play.

[sol]

Originally posted by Batman1983
oh & the L/C & willpower hes supposed to hve cost as follows:

willpower 6, 3, 3, 6,

L/C .5 per click

he'll probably have 4 clicks of WP (which I think I have the wrong Point cost for. My research leeds me to believe its cheap than 6), 1-2 stealth rest L/C, 2 EE w/ 1-2 BCF then 1-2 incap, all WP or WP followed by tough or SS, Outwit for a click followed by CCE

this would be about this many points (on a 8 click dial)

2 targets is 4pts

speed 3.6 (2 stealth 6 L/C)

attack 11 (2 EE, 1BCF, 2 incap)

defence 24 (4 WP, 2 tough or 2 SS, 1 Regen)

Damage 18 (2 outwit at front)

stats = around 5

you have a 62 point piece

V is 58. so he may only have 2-3 clicks of EE & nothing else on attack. only 4 clicks of L/C & 1 of stealth. Like I said WP is not as expensive as this table dictates, & I feel the same about outwit (to many variables). either way w/ high stats he could rock.

Either that, or more powers with a max 7 clicks of life...nice work, Batman1983. I would prefer 8 clicks, but very few figs have 8 clicks of life and are under 60 points. The ones that do have a lot of vanilla on their dials.

I think Deathstroke should be an 8 click figure myself, but the safe money is on 7.

[Taxeon]

Originally posted by Kneel_To_Zod
That's sad when Marvel already has two characters with 12 range...

Besides Mandarin who else has a range of 12?

[bathawk]

pheonix has 12 range as well

[rctpool]

Looking forward to getting this dial. I've had my own fig for awhile now. Just need to get lucky and get one. Still trying for a Taskmaster.

[drhypnotic]

I love it.

[Hack-n-slash]

Quick question, after reading a BIO.

[I had only thought of him as DC's Taskmaster, regardless of which actually came first.]

Since he regenerates to the point where he's effectively immortal, how is it that he came to have an artificial eye?

[What is he, a Highlander? :)]

[Grinner]

Originally posted by Hack-n-slash
Quick question, after reading a BIO.

[I had only thought of him as DC's Taskmaster, regardless of which actually came first.]

Since he regenerates to the point where he's effectively immortal, how is it that he came to have an artificial eye?

[What is he, a Highlander? :)]

Actually, Highlander isn't a bad comparison as an explanation.

A Highlander immortal doesn't gain their incredible healing until their "first death." Any injuries, scars, aging, etc. from before then still remain. It took a similar massive trauma to kick Slade's healing factor to the 'immortal' level. Since he had lost his eye before then it was gone.

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by Terman8er
True...but if you look at this way...he is a better fighter than Bats (so should have a higher AV) is stronger, faster more agile and regenerates.

All of which should place his stats higher than any version of Batman.

Then his "powers" should include:

Running Shot, L/C, Flurry
BCF, Incapcitate
Willpower, Regenerate
Outwit, RCE, CCE (I don't really see him with Perplex)

Then at least an 8 range and starting stats of:

10
12
17
3

and about 9 or 10 clicks of life.

Possibly, but that many clicks would put him on the same level as some monstrously powerful superstrength guys. I lookat it as Batman (particularly V Bats) is skewed too high...doing too much damage (actually a bit low AV)...and otherwise feeding the cult of the Bat with an overpowered (but not necessarily out of character for the Morrison BatGOD)..so a better case is people like Nightwing and Catwoman...and he should be ableto beat those people...

So I'll give you he's probably underpowered, but not as terribly as you fear....and without a team power, he could even be slightly less in cost to some other figures and still be able to beat them...

[Terman8er]

The thing is this guy is a team threat. He regularly defeats teams (in clix) that consisting of:


Nightwing
Changeling
Starfire
Troia

Then from the comics add:

Raven
&
Cyborg

This guy is a BEAST and his clix does not acurately reflect that. I understand not making the clix just like the comics and all but at least keep the levels consistant within the Cllix community. Meaning...make him power4ful enough to beast at least ANY one Titans figure with relative ease.

As is...my money is on Starfire, Troia or Hawk to whip Slade's butt.

[TheHawk]

I am a bit dissappointed actually.

When I heard that Blade/Claws/Fangs was being added to the DC set, the first characters I thought about were Deathstroke and Cheeta.

And while I hear Cheeta may have B/C/F, Deathstroke does not appear to have it, and is even missing his sword.

While I am sure the figure itself will work well in the set, I hope Wiz Kids intends to eventually release a version of Deathstroke with his sword.

I also have mixed feelings about this sculpt. One of his arms seems a bit out of porportion and stubby. It may just be the angle of the picture, but it looks really odd to me. If the arm does turn out to be out of proportion, I will be very dissappointed since one of the things that I have always liked about Hypertime was how well sculpted it was compared to the Marvel Heroclix.

[averykess]

Originally posted by TheLion
Deathstroke the Terminator. A major recurring villain in the Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans. A great villain and should make a great figure. He should team well with the Taskmaster in mixed games.

Especially if you mod up your Taskmaster to the old costume. Heck, they'd even be color coordinated....:laugh:

[Mjolnir]

Until I'm holding Deathsroke in my gurbby little hands.... I'm not saying much.
BUT when I can click and see what happens.... Then the moaning and complaining or praise and elation begins..... till then, all i'll say is:
He looks good... I like the John Woo sculpt.......where's the sword?

[optic_85_]

wow! outwit, and willpower for only 58 points! looks like a good one!

[kang4001]

I am holding E Deathstroke in my hands (thank you, eBay). I agree with plenty of the criticisms offered in this thread, but he is pretty cool. Even though he is a bit cheap, he's pretty cool for the cost. I can't wait to field him.

[Batman1983]

please send the stats to the realms so they can post them in the units section.

[kang4001]

Where should I post them?

[Batman1983]

here works.

then try to PM a moderator

[kang4001]

Don't know what kind of format to useso here goes nothing-

Deathstroke
Experienced
CJ074
50 pts
Range 6
Target 1

1st:
Movement 8 Stealth
Attack 9 Energy Explosion
Defense 16 Willpower
Damage 2 Outwit

2nd:
8 ST
8 EE
16 WP
2 OW

3rd:
7 ST
7 EE
15 WP
2

4th:
7 Leap/Climb
7 EE
15 WP
1

5th:
6 LC
6 EE
14 WP
1

6th:
6 LC
6
14
1

7th:
5
5
13 Regeneration
1

[kang4001]

I pm'd Draddog, and also told him what other figs I have in case they're needed. If anybody has ?'s, feel free.