Cosmic Justice - Arch Enemies

[superfriend]

We know Wonder Woman and supposedly Circe are AE's. Anyone know about other AE's for Cosmic Justice?

IC had 5 sets
HT had 4 sets

CT had 2 sets
XP had 4 sets?

I would expect somewhere in the range of 2 to 4, but most of the characters shown so far really do not have one overwhelming primary enemy. But Daredevil(XP) and the Hand Ninja's may have changed that.

The only one I can think of is:

Firestorm - AE could be Killer Frost.

Thoughts?

[bwanabwana]

Just WW and Circe.

There are no other AEs in this booster run.

We were able to get a sneak peek at the entire range of models today.

Great stuff!

[esfoad]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
Just WW and Circe.

There are no other AEs in this booster run.

We were able to get a sneak peek at the entire range of models today.

Great stuff!

Don't leave us hanging! We're dying out here!

*begs*

[kon-el]

yeah, which sculpt looks the coolest???

[LoneWolf21]

I just want to know if we'll get a Superboy or any of the other members of the soon to be Titans/Young Justice ( I don't expect a SSK this set though, as cool as it would be to get Courtney)

[weezer_10]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
...We were able to get a sneak peek at the entire range of models today...
GAH! I knew I should have pursued a career in the comic/gaming industry, all those nice, little perks. :p

But seriously, don't leave us like this... Just yes or no, is Martian Manhunter a Unique figure?

[Cell]

I suggested Eclipso and Green Lantern Hal Jordan... but its just a suggestion

[bwanabwana]

The uniques I remember are:

1) Lex Luthor (anti-superman team ability) -- think Superman Animated Series
2) That purple alien super-bad guy vs. JLA -- not prospero, not Amazo -- has a fish mohawk.
3) catgirl (from Dark Knight Returns)
4) Vampire Batman
5) Batgirl
6) Bizarro
7) oh, I think Amazo is one of the uniques -- but not the purple alien -o guy
8) there's also a flying base unique -- but I can't place him.

[skeevo666]

Well, all the GL team figs will be arch-enemies to Sinestro

[bwanabwana]

Good point. I totally forgot that from the Sinestro rules.

I yield to you sir! That one required a brain -- something which I haven't used lately.

Otherwise, there are no other special colored bases -- just WW and Circe. It's too bad too -- they've got Cheetah in there (as well as the Lex I mentioned).

The cool thing I saw was that they have about 3-4 legion members, the Easy Company (Sgt. Rock looks cool) and what's really nice: Lexcorp Battlesuits! Think Super-Powers Lex -- but thugs are better than Mandroids!

[weezer_10]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
...8) there's also a flying base unique -- but I can't place him.
He didn't happen to have green skin and a blue cape did he?

[bwanabwana]

I forgot -- Brother Blood (go Titans fans!) is another Unique.

As for coolest sculpts? the Uniques of course -- of them: the JLA bad guys (Amazo and the other -o guy I can't recall). Lex Luthor is cool -- he's either holding an apple or a heart. I like to think "heart".

[BigDandle]

Sgt. Rock. That came out of leftfield. But it is a plesant surprise.

[BigDandle]

Fortget about the Martian Manhunter, there's Sgt. Rock.

[bwanabwana]

Sgt. Rock plus you get some Easy Company boys (no team ability from what I recall).

[curr0001]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
I forgot -- Brother Blood (go Titans fans!) is another Unique.

As for coolest sculpts? the Uniques of course -- of them: the JLA bad guys (Amazo and the other -o guy I can't recall). Lex Luthor is cool -- he's either holding an apple or a heart. I like to think "heart".

That be the Phosipers Stone that Lex has in the JLA Rock of Age arc.. The stone and basically atler realty..

Can we say outwit all the way over his dial? :D

[dcjoker]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
The uniques I remember are:

1) Lex Luthor (anti-superman team ability) -- think Superman Animated Series
2) That purple alien super-bad guy vs. JLA -- not prospero, not Amazo -- has a fish mohawk.
3) catgirl (from Dark Knight Returns)
4) Vampire Batman
5) Batgirl
6) Bizarro
7) oh, I think Amazo is one of the uniques -- but not the purple alien -o guy
8) there's also a flying base unique -- but I can't place him.

The purple alien with the mohawk is Despero.

[dcjoker]

Ohhhh, Sgt. Rock. I was secretly hoping for Sgt. Rock. Not that I'm a big fan (I've never read his comic), but I thought that Sarge would be a nice contrast from all the boots and capes. Also, Easy Company will make for some kick-butt generics. But no team ability? Why on earth would they not give them the DC version of the SHIELD ability?

Anywho, here's hoping for a Jonah Hex click sometime in the near future.

[skeevo666]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
I yield to you sir! That one required a brain -- something which I haven't used lately.


Don't worry! It's just like riding a bike ('cept you gotta peddle faster ;) )

[Grinner]

Originally posted by dcjoker
Why on earth would they not give them the DC version of the SHIELD ability?

Because there is no DC version of the SHIELD ability.

[zapdos]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
The uniques I remember are:

1) Lex Luthor (anti-superman team ability) -- think Superman Animated Series
2) That purple alien super-bad guy vs. JLA -- not prospero, not Amazo -- has a fish mohawk.
3) catgirl (from Dark Knight Returns)
4) Vampire Batman
5) Batgirl
6) Bizarro
7) oh, I think Amazo is one of the uniques -- but not the purple alien -o guy
8) there's also a flying base unique -- but I can't place him.

Please send me the whole list! Do it with a PM or post it all here! PLEASE!

[Batman1983]

an REV Martian Manhunter might be AE to Despero or White martian generics. LL could have a blue base even though supes ain't in the set. if Amazo has a rainbow dial w/ all the JLA AE colors on it I'll be soooo happy I might pee myself (over a toilet w/ my pants down of course)

[Cell]

I cant belive there are 4 legion members and only 1 GLC members. As a fan of the Green Lantern corps im hugely disapointed.... While im interested in some figures, the lack of GLs disapoints me greatly enough :( I mean how hard would it be for em to make Hal Jordan alongside John Stewart? For Shame

[scowlingone]

Originally posted by bwanabwana
I forgot -- Brother Blood (go Titans fans!) is another Unique.

As for coolest sculpts? the Uniques of course -- of them: the JLA bad guys (Amazo and the other -o guy I can't recall). Lex Luthor is cool -- he's either holding an apple or a heart. I like to think "heart".

The other -o guy with the fin is Despero.

Luthor would be holding the Worlogog, from the Rock of Ages storyline in JLA. It's a red rock.

So this version of Luthor should have some serious, bigtime superpowers.

[Hadez]

Martian Manhunter is a Unique.

[bwanabwana]

So, the interesting thing about the Green Latern REV is that
he's has GL team ability at Rookie and Vet,
but at Exp he is JLA.

[weezer_10]

Sweet!

- Rookie John Stewart, GL team ability
- Experienced John Stewart, JLA team ability
- Veteran John Stewart, GL team ability!!! Can somebody say, "Beefcake!"? :p

[Batman1983]

'Beefcake'.... Now what do I win?

seriously though R John (the cheapest GL till we get Guardner) will be a 'often used' piece in 400pt on up games. if hes around R steel's price-66 (R steel is cheap supes team) then he'll be used in 300pt builds a lot. Ok so I've got 3 actions...

1) move whole team (8-11? spaces) up w/ JS/GL & drop V Nightwing & E Bats in stealth.
2) V Nightwing outwits & attacks (or vica verca)
3) E Batman outwits & attacks (or vica verca)

this would be a great asset for the bat team if they we're to get on a bad map (a map they couldn't exploit). He's got range (which Catwoman doesn't). If U Batgirl is 41pts then try this team:

E Batman 92
V Nightwing 72
U Batgirl 41
left over 95pts

so if R JS/GL is 95pts or less he'd fit. we can hope he's 73-78pts so you can get a Robin(or R Huntress) in there. I love this set.... also if you can sacrifice l/c & Stealth you could replace Bats or nightwing w/ Deathstoke (if he has 3 damage & 2 targets), but it wouldn't be a bat team just a great team. but in tourny play good teams are nice, bat teams are better, & tweaked to perfection Bat teams (great teams) are the BOMB.

[phicks]

If Martian Manhunter is indeed a Unique, I expect his after market price will rival that of Nightcrawler. He is a very popular mainstay of a very popular team - everybody will want him. And if they stay accurate to his comic powers, there should be a rainbow of colours on his dial - phasing, super strength, etc. I would rather hear he will be available in REV versions so that I know I will get one.

[Batman1983]

he'll be a GelfOgre one man tank. think supes w/ phasing & RCE (plus imp, tough, CCE, EE, flight, charge?, regen?, incap, & maybe a first click of Leadership or outwit)

[coastcityo]

definately shape change, stretching, phasing, stealth (invisibility), super strength, at least toughness, while charge, RCE, HCE, and leadership would be very nice.

[coastcityo]

and getting back to arch enemies, how can the GL's not have a green base. Name them all Green Lantern and they can be teamates, and have Sinestro and others as arch enemies. I mean why the heck do you save blue and green as bases, and then give WW a green base? what in the heck kinda bizzaro logic is that? Everyone else has the proper colored base to their AE. Flash yellow, Bats grey, Supes red, Aquaman orange. what part of WW costme is green? I realize Vile Raynor's costume had very little green, but all the real GL's (including Alan) had at least a 50/50 mix of green in theirs. I mean, come on.

[jtjgundam]

Hey bwanabwana, can you send me a complete list of figs? My address is [email protected] I'd really appreciate it because my local judge says I've made some great home-made lists. That and I'm dying to know who's in it. Please?

[jtjgundam]

:ermmm: uh, coastcity, supes is blue. Spidey is red.

[Xorn]

Despero.


the purple fin head guy is Despero

[dcjoker]

Originally posted by Grinner
Because there is no DC version of the SHIELD ability.

What I should have said was, why not make the Easy Company TA the DC version of the SHIELD TA?

Sorry.

[Grinner]

Originally posted by dcjoker
What I should have said was, why not make the Easy Company TA the DC version of the SHIELD TA?

Sorry.

So the smartass in me wants to reply "because they said they aren't making any new teams." :p :laugh:

I do have to agree, though, that it would be nice to have the SHIELD option in a DC only game.

[dcjoker]

They should.

[Batman1983]

Flash Enemies
Alpha Flight
Evil DC wildcard (like one of the future evil groups or something)
There are more but its late/extremely early here.

[GMSLegion]

Is anyone else really skeptical they'll do Despero right?

If I'm remembering my early 90s JLAs right, Despero was physically unbeatable. In the "Breakdowns" story, he was fending off both the JLA and JLE without effort -- J'onn, Captain Atom, Power Girl, Guy Gardner couldn't hurt him, and nor could Lobo. In the end, they could only beat him on the mental plane.

A properly-made Despero would be like the Savage Hulk, but with a ranged attack and, if I'm remembering rightly, mind control. This clix needs to be a big ole 220-point gorilla.

[Scipio]

I would prefer a more original Despero; his original powers were primarily mental (check your Archive Volumes) by means of his third eye.

You'd think he had come clean on Tuatara's paternity at some point; I mean, jeez, it doesn't take a genius....!

[AcidBath]

Originally posted by Batman1983
'Beefcake'.... Now what do I win?

seriously though R John (the cheapest GL till we get Guardner) will be a 'often used' piece in 400pt on up games. if hes around R steel's price-66 (R steel is cheap supes team) then he'll be used in 300pt builds a lot. Ok so I've got 3 actions...

1) move whole team (8-11? spaces) up w/ JS/GL & drop V Nightwing & E Bats in stealth.
2) V Nightwing outwits & attacks (or vica verca)
3) E Batman outwits & attacks (or vica verca)

this would be a great asset for the bat team if they we're to get on a bad map (a map they couldn't exploit). He's got range (which Catwoman doesn't). If U Batgirl is 41pts then try this team:

E Batman 92
V Nightwing 72
U Batgirl 41
left over 95pts

so if R JS/GL is 95pts or less he'd fit. we can hope he's 73-78pts so you can get a Robin(or R Huntress) in there. I love this set.... also if you can sacrifice l/c & Stealth you could replace Bats or nightwing w/ Deathstoke (if he has 3 damage & 2 targets), but it wouldn't be a bat team just a great team. but in tourny play good teams are nice, bat teams are better, & tweaked to perfection Bat teams (great teams) are the BOMB.

I don't really know anything about the Manhunters, but from the way they sound maybe they will have the GLC team ability too.

[bjmc1975]

I seriously, seriously doubt it. A Vet was in one of the display boosters people have reported on, and if he was GLC, it wasn't mentioned. Seeing as how he was 46 points and had a set of values that made that cost seem about right, I doubt they could slip in a hyper-expensive team ability on top of that.

[GMSLegion]

Scipio wrote: <em>"I would prefer a more original Despero; his original powers were primarily mental (check your Archive Volumes) by means of his third eye..."</em>

Yeah, the 1960s JLA fought more than their share of skinny aliens with odd skin... Despero, Kanjar Ro, Starbreaker...

I want a Kanjar Ro with a Gamma Gong actually. Make him the AE of Adam Strange.

[superfriend]

Originally posted by dcjoker
What I should have said was, why not make the Easy Company TA the DC version of the SHIELD TA?

Sorry.

They could very easily have the Police (PD) team affiliation. After all, the cops in Marvel are on the Shield team.

[Liquid Havok]

Easy Company? Whoo!!! I just finished watching Band of Brothers....it's gonna be sweet to have Easy. I still say that a WWII clicx game is a great idea.....but this will have to do I guess. CURAHEE!!

[eshuroger]

There are lots of different versions of Despero they could go with from various stages in his career. The thing they'd all have in common is Mind Control. I think the latest version is a disembodied entity that can possess people, and create an illusion that the possessed body is his original form.

The Despero that took on the Steel, Vibe, Gypsy, Vixen JLA could have been a big fig. He was enormous, with god-like powers.

I have a feeling that Amazo's dial will be laden with so many powers that he'll cost a huge amount of points, but they'll change so rapidly that he'll be effectively useless.

I'm hoping against hope that they don't give Martian Manhunter a lame power like Shape Change. I know, he's technically a shape changer, but that power would only pad his point cost with so much dead weight. Perplex would simulate that ability fine and would actually be useful.

[Scipio]

GMSLegion;
OH YES, Kanjar Ro! What says Incapacitate more than the Gamma Gong?

[Gargantua]

"Martian Manhunter is a Unique."


Aaaaaaaargh!!! Which means I'll never pull him and he'll be too good to trade for without including my firstborn, just like Nightcrawler. Alas that my favorite characters from both universes should prove so unattainable.