View Full Version : Firelord Test Games - Series 7 - DCFan#1 vs Brazil
The match is on.
I rolled an 11 for opening roll.
Isn't this a "players only post" forum? I welcome people to watch the action, but please don't comment.
I rolled a nine. Brazil goes first.
Brazil - I will post my team and there starting position shortly. How do you number the board?
-Rich
Brazil's Firelord Team:
E-Firelord
E-Frielord
U-Wasp
U-Wasp
R-Black Panther
R-Vulture
R Paramedic
When I get your team I'll e-mail you the map I choose.
The maps are numbered. (kinda like chess)
CCTelander
05/30/2003, 19:49
Originally posted by Brazil
Brazil's Firelord Team:
E-Firelord
E-Frielord
U-Wasp
U-Wasp
R-Black Panther
R-Vulture
R Paramedic
When I get your team I'll e-mail you the map I choose.
The maps are numbered. (kinda like chess)
Brazil, I assume 1 of those Wasps is supposed to be an E Wasp? And, please be sure to post the map orientation and lettering/numbering scheme so we can follow along. Thanks!
hey, look at that, I'm cheating already....hehehe yeah, I'll fix that...and repost.
CCTelander
05/30/2003, 19:53
Originally posted by Brazil
hey, look at that, I'm cheating already....hehehe yeah, I'll fix that...and repost.
No problem man, I knew it was just a mistake.
okay, with less cheating, here's my team:
E-Firelord
E-Firelord
U-Wasp
E-Wasp
R-Black Panther
V-Vulture
E-Paramedic
Ok, send in the skrulls!
U Super Skrull
LE Raksor
Vet Skrull Warrior x4
Exp Skrull Commando x4
LE Tabitha Smith (Boom-Boom)
Which map ya want?
-Rich
I e-mailed you a map.....the Dirtpile. Which side of the map do you want for your starting area?
If you didn't get the file I sent yesterday with the map, I can resend it to you on Monday.
I'll take the side with the dirtpile.
How are we numbering/lettering the board?
-Rich
I sent you a map on Friday. Check your e-mails from me there is an attachment. I can resend you the map tomorrow if you didn't get it. I'll do my placement on my laptop and I'll post my starting postion along with a description of the map in a few minutes.
If you look at your map with the dirtpile along the top edge, the map is lettered A-X starting at the top row as A. and the Bottom Row X. The columns are numbered 1-24 starting at the left side, that being the 1 Column, and the Right Column being column 24.
My figures will start as follows:
E-Firelord (f1) W-9
E-Firelord (f2) X-11
U-Wasp (w1) W-10
E-Wasp (w2) W-11
R-Black Panther (bp) W-12
V-Vulture (v) W-13
E-Paramedic (+) W-14
The abbreviations in the Brackets are abbreviations I'm using on the map which you will see tomorrow when I post the current map.
Object Placement:
Light Object O-15
Light Object L-12
Heavy Object O-16
I have a pretty full day today, so I'll post my starting positions and object placement tonight.
I wish you luck, you're gonna need it!
-Rich
For everyone's viewing here's the map and setup...awaiting DCFan to put down his figures and objects:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Boy, no surprises where you're going with a least one of the Firelords and BP. Wanna telegraph any moves for me?
Here's my objects:
D11 - Heavy
D8 - Heavy
I4 - Light
Starting position:
A20 - Skrull Warrior 1
A19 - Skrull Warrior 2
A18 - Skrull Warrior 3
A17 - Skrull Warrior 4
A16 - Skrull Commando 1
A15 - Skrull Commando 2
A14 - Skrull Commando 3
A13 - Skrull Commando 4
A12 - Tabitha Smith
A10 - Super Skrull
A9 - Raksor
-Rich
One quick correction,
Tabitha should be at A11
-Rich
Okay, I moved as follows:
Actions:
Wasp1 moved to O-15 Dropping Firelord1 off at P-15
Wasp2 moved to O-16 Dropping Firelord2 off at P-16
Vulture moved to Q-16 Dropping Black Panther off at R-15
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
And the match is on.
You know DCFan after you are totally publicly humiliated by me and everyone else you play here on HCRealms, your the credibility of your opinions will drop to...oh wait they're already at rock bottom.
Nice team .... and setup ..... ROFL....at least your're consistant.
:grin:
Consistant? I'd rather be consistant than ultra-predictable! How long have you been using that set up and first move? Since the game came out? Come on man, grow a pair and get off the roof!
Skrull Commando 4 moves to I10
Skrull Commando 3 moves to H14
Skrull Commando 2 moves to H21
-Rich
I haven't played Firelord in ... geeze I can't remember the last time I played Firelord. And I'm sure I've never played this team...I never play dupes either.
Turn 2 my team passes and clears.
Do you give up yet?
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
CCTelander
06/02/2003, 17:28
Originally posted by Brazil
I haven't played Firelord in ... geeze I can't remember the last time I played Firelord. And I'm sure I've never played this team...I never play dupes either.
Turn 2 my team passes and clears.
Do you give up yet?
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
Brazil, that's a nice reproduction of the Construction Site map. Do you have a JPG or BMP file you could send me? I'd appreciate it, along with any other of the maps from the Adventure Kits. Let me know and I'll send you my e-mail addy. Thanks!
Yeah, e-mail me at mboyle@microsoft.com and I'll send you what I have...this goes for anyone wanting maps.
Oh ya, I give, you're killing me here! ARRRGGGGHHH....
Skrull Commando 1 moves to H24
Skrull Warrior 4 moves to E24
Skrull Warrior 1 moves to E22
The others from last turn clear.
Once again, get down off the roof. What are you scared of?
-Rich
DC fan, the row of dirt and the dirtpile by the lake are both hindering terrain. Your Skrulls would need leap/climb or flight to get to where you just tried to move them...well you might be able to get W1 where you tried to move him, but I suspect you were unaware of the Dirt being hindering so maybe you want to redo that whole move.
The only move I counted incorrectly was Skrull Warrior 4. He should be at D22 (going around the pile and down the board). The other two are completely legal.
-Rich
Skrull's only have a movement of 8 if Skrull Commnado 1 moves from A-16 to H-24 he will be moving along a diagonal line down and to the right. When he gets to G-22 he will be in hindering terrain and will have to stop there.
Super_Member
06/02/2003, 18:27
Once again, get down off the roof. What are you scared of?
Sorry, but that just made my day. :p
I'm scared of Skrulls....a friend of mine has Skrulls, they're aweful...looks like lepracy or somethin.....oh wait that's Shingles. My Bad.
I'll come off the roof, if he'll ever post a legal move...he's stalling....it's his only hope.
Hey look at that, you're right. Sorry, my bad - new positions:
Skrull Warrior 4 moves to E12
Skrull Warrior 1 moves to G23
Skrull Commando 1 moves to H10
Better?
-Rich
Super_Member
06/02/2003, 18:42
I'll come off the roof
Awww....come on hehe. I'll go now before I get fused at.
Wasp (w1) moves to O-8 dropping Firelord (f1) off at N-7.
Firelord (f1) rolls Skrull ability to attack Skrull C4. (roll 2) Failed.
Firelord attacks Skrull C4. (roll 4+5) Hit Skrull KO'd.
Wasp (w2) moves to P-8 dropping Firelord (f2) off at O-9.
Firelord rolls Skrull ability to attack Skrull C3. (Roll 5) Failed.
Firelord (f2) attacks Skrull C3. (roll 2+6) Hit Skrull KO'd.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 N-7 @
Firelord 2 O-9 @
Wasp 1 O-8 @
Wasp 2 P-8 @
Vulture Q-16
Black Panther R-15
Paramedic W-14
How do you like your Skrull? Regular or Extra Crispy?
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
Ummmm....extra crispy....
I'm out for the day, we'll restart tomorrow.
-Rich
I'm ultra busy at work today, so we may only get a few moves in. Here goes:
Raksor moves to E17
Skrull Warrior 2 moves to H21
Skrull Commando 2 moves to M23
All others clear.
-Rich
Turn 4
All my fellas pass and clear
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 N-7
Firelord 2 O-9
Wasp 1 O-8
Wasp 2 P-8
Vulture Q-16
Black Panther R-15
Paramedic W-14
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
Skrull Warrior 3 moves to H18
All the rest clear.
Bring on the flamers!
-Rich
Actions:
Wasp (w1) moves to P-15 carrying Firelord (f1) to O-15.
Firelord rolls Skrull team ability for Skrull Warrior 2, (roll 1) failed. And attacks him. (roll 3+1=4) Hit KOing Skrull.
Wasp (w2) moves to P-16 carrying Firelord (f2) to O-16.
Firelord rolls Skrull team ability for Skrull Warrior 1, (roll 4) failed. And attacks him. (roll 4+4) Hit KOing Skrull.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 O-15
Firelord 2 O-16
Wasp 1 P-15
Wasp 2 P-16
Vulture Q-16
Black Panther R-15
Paramedic W-14
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4b.jpg
Turn5:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5a.jpg
We need a cleanup...Isle 2.
You are as gutless as you are spineless! Get off the roof!
I'm done for the day, we'll fire it up again tomorrow.
Pun intended.
-Rich
Another day, another crispy skrull snack! Ummm...fried skrulls with cheese...
Skrull Commando 1 moves to A14
Skrull Warrior 4 moves to B21
Skrull Commando 2 moves to U20
Skrull Warrior 3 clears
Ya gotta bring the fight to me, parnter...
-Rich
I think you moved Skrull Warrior 4 too far. He was at E-12, moving him to B-21 would be 2 squares further than he can go.
Oops, that was supposed to be Raksor. Sorry man.
My Medic will move to U-11, the rest of my people will pass.
I have to go to a lunch meeting, I'll post the maps when I return, or on my next turn if you want to go ahead and take your next move.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 O-15
Firelord 2 O-16
Wasp 1 P-15
Wasp 2 P-16
Vulture Q-16
Black Panther R-15
Paramedic U-11 @
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4b.jpg
Turn5:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5b.jpg
Turn6:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6a.jpg
One quick move before the day is done:
Skrull Warrior 3 moves to A18
Skrull Warrior 4 moves to A16
Skrull Commando 2 pushes and moves to X12
All the rest clear.
Have a good night!
-Rich
Actions:
Vulture moves to J-8 dropping Black Panther to I-7.
Black Panther FREE moves to A-3.
Black Panther Outwits Super Skrull's Invulnerability.
Wasp 2 FREE moves to K-8 dropping Wasp 1 at J-7.
Firelord 2 moves to J-9 dropping Firelord 1 at I-8.
Wasp 1 FREE moves to C-8 dropping Firelord 1 off at B-9.
Firelord 1 rolls Skrull Ability for Super Skrull. (roll 1) Failed.
Firelord 2 attacks Super Skrull (roll 1+3) hit for 5 clicks.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 B-9 @
Firelord 2 J-9 @
Wasp 1 C-8 @
Wasp 2 K-8 @
Vulture J-8 @
Black Panther A-3 @
Paramedic U-11
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4b.jpg
Turn5:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5b.jpg
Turn6:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6b.jpg
Turn7:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-7a.jpg
Uncle Ben
06/05/2003, 15:49
Just out of curiousity, when Brazil rolls for the Skrull Shape Change ability, was that something that was decided before hand? Or should DC Fan #1 be rolling that? Again, just curious.
Brazil, missed you on last Fridays game.
Uncle Ben
It speeds things up if you make defensive rolls like Super Sences and Skrull abilities and even Probability control rolls for your opponent....the last one is kinda tricky, you might have to wait for your opponent to make the roll if there's multiple possibilities for it's use, but most of the time there is only one Probability Control option for your opponent, so you can make that choice for him...it speeds things up. We're using a Dice server, so it's not like either player feels like he's not getting to use his "mojo" by slinging the little plastic cubes themselves. This game really does translate to Play by E-mail or play by post pretty well.
As for Friday...yeah, I was indesposed. I should be there tomorrow though. Want to carpool?
Naw, Brazil rolls for me on those. It makes the attacks go faster, and in turn the turns go faster. As long as he does it consistantly, I don't mind. Granted, one hasn't gone my way yet, and #### did I need it on Super Skrull.
Nice shot man! I really wasn't counting on the double taxi till later in the game. I'm putting a lot into this move right here, and I need the dice to roll my way. We'll see...
Brazil, could you post the link to the dice server again? I have it saved at home, but not here at work.
-Rich
http://www.irony.com/mailroll.html
Thanks man.
Alright, I'm going to get a few points out of this, one way or the other!
Super Skrull picks up Tabitha and moves to B4, dropping Tabby at C3
Tabitha takes the shot on BP, rolls a 9, hits for 4.
Raksor moves to J21
All the rest clear.
-Rich
Super_Member
06/05/2003, 16:31
I'm assuming the dirt pile is hindering in which case, DCFan did you roll for breakaway?
The dirt pile is elevated.
Are you a part of this game?
-Rich
Super_Member
06/05/2003, 16:36
Are you a part of this game?
Why.....No, I am not? :classic:
Do ya see the thick black line around the dirt pile? I don't have to break, it's a difference in elevation.
Look folks, I don't mind a bit of commentary now and then, as long as it makes sense.
-Rich
Super_Member
06/05/2003, 16:54
Are you a part of this game?
Look folks, I don't mind a bit of commentary now and then, as long as it makes sense.
Isn't this a "players only post" forum? I welcome people to watch the action, but please don't comment.
Sorry, sometimes I get up on the wrong side of the bed too. :sleep:
Actions:
Wasp 2 pushes to D-3 dropping Firelord 2 off at C-4.
Firelord 2 rolls skrull ability for Super Skrull (roll 2) failed.
Firelord 2 pushes and attacks Super Skrull (roll 3+3) Hit KOed Super Skrull.
Paramedic moves to O-9.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 B-9
Firelord 2 C-4 (1 click) @@
Wasp 1 C-8 @
Wasp 2 D-3 (1 click) @@
Vulture J-8
Black Panther A-3 (4 clicks)
Paramedic O-9 @
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4b.jpg
Turn5:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5b.jpg
Turn6:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6b.jpg
Turn7:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-7a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-7b.jpg
Turn8:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-8a.jpg
I might just be dense, and if so, I apologize, but how did F2 hit SS? Isn't elevated terrain blocking?
I think supermember was just trying to point out an illegal move. He didn't know it was elevated, it was an honest mistake. I appeciate anyone speaking up if they think we've made a mistake. We're not perfect, I screw up all the time.
I don't understand your question TheTick. I moved Firelord 2 adjacent to Super Skrull when I attacked him, neither of us were on the dirtpile at the time.
This question goes back to turn 7a, when F2 was at J9, and SS was at B10
scowlingone
06/05/2003, 17:10
Originally posted by TheTick
This question goes back to turn 7a, when F2 was at J9, and SS was at B10
That was F1 that fired at SS at that point. The two models were in adjacent squares.
Originally posted by Brazil
Actions:
Vulture moves to J-8 dropping Black Panther to I-7.
Black Panther FREE moves to A-3.
Black Panther Outwits Super Skrull's Invulnerability.
Wasp 2 FREE moves to K-8 dropping Wasp 1 at J-7.
Firelord 2 moves to J-9 dropping Firelord 1 at I-8.
Wasp 1 FREE moves to C-8 dropping Firelord 1 off at B-9.
Firelord 1 rolls Skrull Ability for Super Skrull. (roll 1) Failed.
Firelord 2 attacks Super Skrull (roll 1+3) hit for 5 clicks.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 B-9 @
Firelord 2 J-9 @
Wasp 1 C-8 @
Wasp 2 K-8 @
Vulture J-8 @
Black Panther A-3 @
Paramedic U-11
Italics added for emphasis...
Super_Member
06/05/2003, 17:15
Elevated terrian is blocking terrian except for the edge of your square that you are in. If LOF crosses any elevated terrain your character isn't in it is considered block unless you are targeting someone else on elevated blocking terrain. I'm not sure how clear that is, but you can shoot off the edge of it as long as it doesn't cross any other blocking terrain other than the square you are in.
scowlingone
06/05/2003, 17:15
Because F2 was unable to target SS at that point and F1 made the Skrull roll, I think it's clear that despite Brazil's typo, it was F1 that made the attack.
I don't make assumptions, so what is written is usually what I believe. Not that it makes any difference...
I just assumed it was a typo, and treated it as such. No sweat.
Nice job taking out Super Skrull. I now also know you're not afraid to push if necessary.
-Rich
Alright, last move of the day:
Skrull Commando 2 moves to W5
Skrull Commando 1 moves to I10
Skrull Warrior 4 moves to A9
No matter how bleak it looks, I will not give in!
Have a good night.
-Rich
Opps yeah, that was definitely a type-o. Sorry about that.
Gentlegamer
06/05/2003, 18:04
Back when Black Panther moved to A3 to outwit Super Skrull's Invulnerabiltiy, did he cross the fence? Is not the fence hindering terrain? If it is, Black Panther could not have moved to that position.
I ask because whenever my group uses this map, the fence is treated as hindering terrain.
Gentlegamer
daredevil11
06/05/2003, 18:08
Great game to read guys, of course I'm routing for Brazil but hats off to both of you on my favorite game to read - looking forward to rounds 2 and 3.
Now its time for the Firelord rally dance, performed to the Tomahawk chop . . .
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom - Ohhh oh oh oo oh, Aaa e Ay, . . .
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom .......
...:cool: ...:angry: ...:mad: ...:angry: ...:cool:
Brazil, I think Gentlegamer might be right. Check it again, to go around the fence I believe you end up one short of where you wanted to go, and you couldn't see SS.
Let me know.
-Rich
We, looking at it again, I think you can get there. Crossing the fence into A3 would have been where you had to stop. I think it's legit.
-Rich
scowlingone
06/05/2003, 18:13
Deleted.
Gentlegamer
06/05/2003, 18:20
You are correct, if Black Panther took the optimal path to A3, he would end up exactly where Brazil placed him. In my group, during a live game, once you pick up a figure to move you must show the path that you used . . . if your path crosses hindering terrain, or moves base to base with an enemy figure, then you must stop moving at that point, even if it was not your intented destination. I know you can't do anything like that online, but it is possible that Black Panther could have attempted to cross the fence at an earlier point and thereby ending his movement before he could get line of fire to outwit Super Skrull's Invulnerabitity.
Gentlegamer
Actions:
Firelord 1 rolls Skrull ability for Skrull W-4. (roll2) failed.
Firelord 1 attacks Skrull W-4. (Roll 4+6) hit KOing Skrull.
All others pass and clear.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 B-9 @
Firelord 2 C-4 (1 click)
Wasp 2 D-3 (1 click)
Vulture J-8
Black Panther A-3 (4 clicks)
Paramedic O-9
setup:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-setup.jpg
Turn1:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-1b.jpg
Turn2:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2b.jpg
Turn3:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-3b.jpg
Turn4:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-4b.jpg
Turn5:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-5b.jpg
Turn6:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-6b.jpg
Turn7:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-7a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-7b.jpg
Turn8:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-8a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-8b.jpg
Turn9:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-9a.jpg
Yes the fence was crossed as Black Panther moved from B-4 to A-3 using his last movement point.
That's what I figured, no sweat.
I just emailed you as well.
-Rich
Uncle Ben
06/05/2003, 18:42
I don't think I will be able to make it tomorrow night. But PM me your number. I will do the same.
Uncle Ben
I've got your number....just not at home...I forgot it here at work.
DCFan, ready for round #2?
Is this the map you wanted?
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcvb2/map1inside.jpg
Hey man, sorry for the delay. Let's get this game rollin' today if that works. I'd suggest starting a new thread just so it's easier to navigate.
Rich
I think other people are using the same threads for thier games, I think we ought to stick with what everyone else is doing....plus, if everyone has 2 or 3 threads per match, things will get cluttered, and it will also make it harder for people who want to look at earlier games in a match to find them as they will disappear after a couple days.
I think it's best if we stay in the same thread.
And let's get started. Is the map in post 84 the map you wanted? If so go ahead and post your starting positions...I choose the left edge for my setup so you'll be on the right.
Good Luck,
-Brazil
scottcoz
06/11/2003, 16:21
Same thread is best - it'll make it easier to follow each series of games, and easier for me to enter the data into the spreadsheet.
Just do something noticeable to start the new game, like put in large bold text:
THIS IS THE START OF THE 2ND MATCH IN THIS SERIES
Sorry Brazil, it's completely my fault that we haven't started yet. I've been very busy at work, and really haven't had much of any time at all. I'll get the starting positions figured out and posted so we can get started either this weekend or on Monday.
Rich
Ok, here's the team again:
U Super Skrull
LE Raksor
Vet Skrull Warrior x4
Exp Skrull Commando x4
LE Tabitha Smith (Boom-Boom)
Starting positions:
Super Skrull X19
Raksor X20
Tabby X18
Commando 1 W20
Commando 2 W19
Commando 3 W18
Commando 4 W17
Warrior 1 W12
Warrior 2 W11
Warrior 3 W10
Warrior 4 W9
Let the games begin!
Rich
Setup:
Light objects at J-12 and J13
Heavy object at N-17
Firelord 1 at A-11
Firelord 2 at A-12
Wasp 1 at B-11
Wasp 2 at B-12
Black Panther at B-15
Vulture at B-16
Paramedic at B-6
(Don't forget to place your 3 objects,
Good Luck,
We're off,
Your turn meat.
Oh sorry, here's the map:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-start.jpg
Yup, objects.
Heavy @ R17
Heavy @ P16
Light @ N8
Since I chose the map instead of rolling, do I go first?
Rich
Yes, I figured since I went first last time...
Super Skrull picks up Tabby and moves to P18, dropping Tabby at P19.
Commando 4 moves to P16
Commando 3 moves to Q16
Your go man.
Rich
Game 2 Turn 1
Wasp makes a leadership roll (roll 5) success.
Wasp (w2) free moves to H-9 dropping Firelord (f2) off at H-10.
Firelord (f2) destroys the section of wall between O-18 and P-18.
Vulture moves to F-12 and drops Black Panther off at G-12.
Black Panther Outwits Super Skrull's Invulnerability.
Wasp (w1) free moves to I-12 dropping Firelord (f1) off at J-13.
Firelord (f1) rolls Skrull Ability for Super Skrull. (Roll 2) failed.
Firelord (f1) attacks Super Skrull, (roll 3+2) hit for 5 clicks.
Paramedic moves to G-7.
Final Positions:
Firelord 1 J-13 @
Firelord 2 H-10 @
Wasp 1 I-12 @
Wasp 2 H-9 @
Vulture F-12 @
Black Panther G-12
Paramedic G-7 @
Starting Positions:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-start.jpg
Turn 1
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-1b.jpg
FL doesn't have LOF to SS from where he took the shot.
And BP does have LOS to SS from there either. It crosses two walls. It's close, but it crosses.
Set them both up on a real map and you'll see, but are very close, but just miss the center of SS's square.
Yes, both have LOS from their current positions. Remember that the rules state that objects go to the exact corners of squares. Even though they are drawn with thickness. I made an enlargement of that section of the map. Hopefully that will clear it up for you.
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-los-enlargement.jpg
If you look at the geometry, and figure the LOS FROM Super Skrull, he could see strait down the diagonal up and to the left. And he could see squares to the left of that. Both Firelord and Black Panther are to the left of that.
That's fine. Wow, you got me by the nuts early!
SS takes the shot on FL1, needs a ten, rolls a six. He pushes and takes his click.
Tabby takes the RCE shot on FL1, needs an eleven, and rolls snake eyes. ####!
Everyone else passes.
Rich
Game 2 Turn 2
All my figures pass as well.
Starting Positions:
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcf...zil-2-start.jpg
Turn 1
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-1a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-1b.jpg
Turn 2
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-2a.jpg
www.foosball.com/mike/banksiege/dcfan-brazil-2-2b.jpg
scottcoz
07/03/2003, 04:03
Hey guys,
I'm updating the spreadsheet, and I notice that this game seems to have stalled out. I also see that Brazil has begun his round 2 pairing with Chris.
So, I'm guessing DCFan dropped out? Is there any word from him - ie, is he busy right now and thinking about picking this game up at a later time? Without some word from him that he wants to continue the game, I'll have to record it as a concession on his part.
There may be some disagreement with that - but here's my logic on it:
Although technically he hasn't said, "I concede," it is the same thing if he has simply dropped out because he feels his position is untenable. To NOT count this as a concession allows a loophole in our data - players could simply stop posting when the odds were against them, thereby avoiding the loss.
I won't record this game until I hear back from CC - feel free to debate in the meantime, if you have a differing point of view.
And, of course, any word from DCFan would be welcome.
Hey guys, sorry for my unexplained disappearance. I've been out of town on business on and off for the past few weeks with little to no access to email or internet.
If Brazil has started round two, then I guess I'll throw in the towel here. I can't imagine him wanting to play two games at once.
Congrats to Brazil for playing a fine game, and giving my Skrull team a sound beating. I would argue though that in an actual game setting, the outcome would have been drastically different. Forum games do not play out like regular games, and do not represent the true spirit of the game.
Rich
CCTelander
07/03/2003, 10:08
Originally posted by DCFan#1
Hey guys, sorry for my unexplained disappearance. I've been out of town on business on and off for the past few weeks with little to no access to email or internet.
If Brazil has started round two, then I guess I'll throw in the towel here. I can't imagine him wanting to play two games at once.
...
Rich
No problem, Rich. You are planning on continuing with the test games though, aren't you? I should have a few players ready for Round 2 pretty soon. A lot of the Round 1 games have gone on a bit long, probably due to Cons, the start of summer, etc. I'd hate to have to move on without ya man, and hey, Peter's still in!
I don't have a problem playing two games at once. I would enjoy finnishing this match with DCFan. So if he wants to continue, I'm all for that. I have the maps from both my matches on my computer and it's very easy to access each one, and it only takes me a few minutes to take my turns and update the maps. If you have the time and desire, it's your turn DCFan, if you want to conceed that's your option as well.
-Brazil
scottcoz
07/03/2003, 14:15
Cool - good to have ya back, DCFan.
If you guys resume this game, cool - (heck, I havn't even gotten in ONE turn yet, so you guys are ahead of me, even with the 2 week delay in your game!) I'll hold off on recording it (or just record it as a concession, if that's what you prefer, Rich).
I know there are a few people out there that will take it upon themselves to ridicule and mock me for this, but I'm gonna conceed. Personal reasons, that's all guys. I've got too much other junk in my life right now, and I simply don't have the time to devote to this. I can barely make weekly tournaments.
Brazil, you played a fine game. Thanks.
Rich
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