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admironheart
05/30/2003, 23:17
Hey all,

I want to try out a wierd team I thought of....and JoeytheButt said yes.

since I do not have an HCRealms team page...here is my 12 man team:

1 Vet Quicksilver
2 Exp Quicksilver
3 Rk Quicksilver
4 Rk Mystique
5 Exp Quicksilver
6 Rk Quicksilver
7 Rk Scarlet Witch
8 Exp Quicksilver
9 Exp Quicksilver
10 Vet Hydra Medic
11 Vet Vulture
12 Vet Quicksilver

291 points

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/30/2003, 23:45
http://www.hcrealms.com/cgi-bin/quickviewteam.cgi?teamname=ARRRRRITBEMEARRRRRMY&username=JoeyTheButt&action=graphic

here's my army.

2 E FLs
3 E Wasps
1 R Black Panther
1 V Paramedic

300 points exactly

admironheart
05/30/2003, 23:47
Hey JoeyTheButt,

did you see that the clicker for the Vparamedic is missing in action?

just have to keep track of it manually

lets roll to see who goes first

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/30/2003, 23:51
intereting... I wonder why that is.

Was that a test roll you just did?

cause you rolled 2 sets of 2d6s.

heheh you did pretty bad too 3 & 4:p


ok, I just did my start of game roll. it was an 11.

admironheart
05/30/2003, 23:52
which map ans side?

wes
ps.:good luck

JoeyTheButt
05/30/2003, 23:58
hmm.. for some reason the maps won't load... so how bout this. you pick map. load it, hit print screen button, go to new bitmap and hit paste in the bitmap. trim the image down to just the map and then send it to me by email. I can print it out and just use little tokens of some sort. That's the only way I can see this working if I can't load the maps. If you have any other ideas feel free to contribute.

JoeyTheButt

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:04
the creation matrix ones are offline...so right next to it are the heroix
if not I will try your suggestion

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 00:10
yeah, that's what I was trin before and it just timed out my connection and made me restart internet explorer. For some reason, after I restarted my computer though, it worked!


I guess I will choose marvel map 2 and left side.

Who places first? I forget.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:13
you place first object, then me, etc...then you place team then me, then you go first.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:16
hey,
to speed things up I pick right side and place light object #2 on O17
Light object #3 on T14
and heavy #2 on N21

go ahead and place your 3 objects and team
and then I will do mine

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 00:18
so I should just place my whole team at one time? just wondering if that's what you mean, cause I'm ok with it if you are.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:20
I've been told that is how you do it anyways. Then the 2nd player places to offset the advantage of you going first.

and tell me where you put Heavy 1 and 3 and light #1 as well

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 00:33
ok. here's my team in the order it will be for this game

1 E Wasp
2 E Wasp
3 E Wasp
4 E Firelord
5 E Firelord
6 R Black Panther
7 V Paramedic


heavy objet 1 on L6
Heavy Object 3 on K11
LO 1 on )12

my figs
1 on K2
2 on L2
3 on M2
4 on K1
5 on M1
6 on L1
7 on S1

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:41
here is my team:
1 Vet Quicksilver
2 Exp Quicksilver
3 Rk Quicksilver
4 Rk Mystique
5 Exp Quicksilver
6 Rk Quicksilver
7 Rk Scarlet Witch
8 Exp Quicksilver
9 Exp Quicksilver
10 Vet Hydra Medic
11/your9 Vet Vulture
12/your10 Vet Quicksilver


1on N23
2on L23
3 on K23
4 on S23
5 on M23
6 on Q23
7 on r24
8 on P23
9 on O23
10 onQ24
11/9 on P24
12/10 onO24
your turn

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 00:44
wasp 2 picks up black panther 6. wasp 2 goes to L5
Black panther gets dropped on L6 (on heavy object1)

I will end for this turn.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 00:53
4 will perplex her move to 9 and free brotherhood move to U18 at half move at 5 aspaces
10 will move to T19

7 will free move to M21
6 will free move toM20

3 will free move toS18
and
8 will move to s19 with free move

pass

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:03
wow, that was a lot of actions for not a lot of actions... tons of free move.

ok...

Wasp 1 picks up firelord 4 and moves to K10, placing firelord 4 on K11 (on heavy object).

Firelord 4 attacks E Quicksilver 8 AWWWW CRITICAL MISS!!!!

wasp 3 picks up firelord 5 and moves to M10
placing firelord 5 lon M11 Firelord 5 attacks quicksilver 3.

got an 8 that time. hit. quicksilver 3 is dead.

pass other action

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:16
ok
1 QS down ;)

6 pushes to J11 and takes a click
I hate that clicker!!! makes all doubles have the same clix...we will need to keep track of this...3 is dead 6 is on 2nd click

5 goes to L12 free move
12/10 goes to N12
2 goes to N11 free move
9 goes to N10 free move
1 goes to N9
11/9 goes to S18
clear 4,7,10,8

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:24
firelord 4 pushes to attack quicksilver 6.
got a 10
quicksilver 6 is dead

clear 1,3,5

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:26
Mystique[4] will perplex 12/10 av to 10
10 will attack 5 with flurry

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:30
ok... you gota 7... PCed it... got a 3 so didn't hit by. 10 pushes right?

Is flurry 2 rolls or one? cause if its 2 you gotta roll again.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:31
ok, sorry about that messed up roll.
even after pc...both tries missed

now for his second flurry attack
perplexed av10 vs 18 again

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:33
ok, that one hit so FL takes 2 damage and 10/12 takes 1 from push.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:34
yes, second attack hits for 2 clix, 12/10 takes a push clix

now for action 2.
9 pushes to flurry on 5
av 8 vs 13 1st attack.........

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:38
ok, 1 hit and 1 miss. FL takes 2 and QS 9 takes 1 for push

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:39
2 clix to 5 and 1 push to 9

3rd action
11/9 will push to pick up 8 and fly to O10 and drop 8 on O9
1 click push

8 will free move to S2

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:40
pass, clear 1,2,5

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:43
is everything clear so far?

I have my 3 and 6 KO'd
with
11/9 on 2nd clix
and
12/10 on 2nd clix
and your
4 on 3rd clix
5 on 5th click

;)

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:45
and my 9 is on 2nd click too!

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:47
ok.. medic 7 wil try to break away. 3. didn't work.

firelord 5 will attack 12/10. got a 10. 12/10 takes 3 clicks.

wasp 3 will try to break away and pick up firelord 5. got a 4

wasp 3 moves to Q4 and drops firelord 5 on R4

that's 2 actions.

wasp 1 picks up firelord 4 and moves to N3 placing firelord 4 on N4
that's 3 actions. Firelord 4 clears

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:48
I want to pc your 5 attack
I assume you are RCE?

9 vs 17 with ESD
or
9 vs 15 for 1 click?

please reroll

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:48
I think my 4 is on second click cause it only pushed once.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:50
so he is on his 3rd clic

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:51
forgot about that ... rerolling.

got a 5. guess it didn't hit then.

I was using RCE. I'll specify from now on.

wait... does mystique 4 have LOS to firelord 5?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:52
but the scarlet witch 7 has a straight line to him and she has the pc

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:53
guess he is on 3rd click. forgot about the critical miss.

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:54
oh yeah. I was looking at mystique instead of SW. sorry bout that.

guess it's your turn then.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 01:55
that you finish your moves as planned?

clear 4 and my turn

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 01:57
yep.

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:00
5 will free move to O5
2 will free move to K6
7 will free move to K15

1st action
8 will push to attack 7 with flurry

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:02
sorry about that second roll

2 clix and 2 clix

she should be ko'd
and 8 takes a push to his 2nd clix...

action 2...

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:03
ok 8 takes a click for push and medic is gone

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:08
2nd action 1 will move to N-5
4 will perplex 10's move to7
4 will free move at half rate of 4 to Q15
3rd action...
10 will move at half rate of 4 to P15

clear 9, 11/9, 12/10,

pass

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:12
black panther will out 1's ESD and firelord 4 will attack 1 (QS)
with RCE

got a 7. so hit. QS 1 takes 4 damage

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:14
black panther will attack QS1

6
hit

QS 1 takes 1 damage

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:15
did firelord use RCE? and miss
or hit for 2 click is close combat attack?

thanks

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:15
wasp 2 will attack QS 1

got an 11

hit

QS 1 dies

unless you PC any of that which I forgot to account for sorry bout that

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:16
you mean wasp and bp will attack qs 2?
since they are based with him?

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:17
used RCE and hit cause QS1's ESD was outwitted by black panther

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:18
oh ####... I thought QS 1 was on M5... but I just checked and he was on N5

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:19
ok I guess I will then just have BP and Wasp attack QS2

should I keep the same rolls or reroll?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:20
so qs1 was outwitted and took 4 clix...is on 5th clic

qs2 got missed by panther, but took 2 from was and is on 3rd click

right?
;)

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:21
yeah, sorry about that mixup:)

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:23
clear 1,3,5 right?

your turn then

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:27
12/10 will move to O-15
11/9 will pick up 9 an move to J7
dropping 9 on K7
7 will push to use free brotherhood move to O13
taking 1 click of push

4 will perplex 5/s damage to 3

with 3rd action 5 will flurry on 4
8 vs 13

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:31
ok. does 5 push?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:32
sorry about that,

fire lord 4 take 6 clix and is on his 9th click

pass, clear 8,2,1 10,4

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:33
hehehe having some dice roller problems?:p

so FL 4 takes 6 damage right?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:34
oops,

forgot about that,,,yes 5 pushes

this is so much harder that a chat room like aol/aim

wes

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:36
thanks for your patience with the new guy

yes firelord take 6 clicks and all my guys are ko' or wounded except 4 and 10

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:36
firelord 5 will attack QS8

9. hit. you probably PC that right?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:39
your elevated and not on the edge so I cannot

QS8 is on his last click!!

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:40
i don't know if I ever saw so much movement, fire blastings, and punches in a heroclix game!!!!

lol

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:43
you sure you want to push panther, pc comes back right away?

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:43
oh yeah forgot about that.

black panther will outwit probability control and push to attack QS 9. got a 3. no hit

finally, wasp 1 will attack QS 5.

got a 4. didn't hit.

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:44
clear 2, 4

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:44
wasp has no los to qs5 due to firelord's base, take the action over again;)

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:46
the way I have it wasp 1 is on N3, FL 4 on N4, and QS5 on O4

putting it like this

WF
XQ

W=wasp
f=firelord
x=blank
q=quicksilver

maybe I have it layed out slightly wrong

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:49
i just did...qs5 is on O5

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:49
oh. ok didn't get that for some reason... so should i just say the wasp attack never happened then?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:50
yes, still have 1 action left

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:52
wasp 1 will pick up firelord 4 and move to I7, dropping firelord 4 on I8

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:53
I think that's a legal move (I can get around your figs)

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:54
4 will free move to O12
4 will perplex qs9 damage to 2
10 will use 1st action to use support on 12/10
7 vs12.........

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:56
wahoo,

quicksilver 12/10 is full stregnth!

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 02:56
so 12/10 is healed to full

admironheart
05/31/2003, 02:58
11/9 will push to taxi qs 9
vulture moves to Q-6 and drops
9 on Q5
takes 1 click push damage

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:02
does vulture have enough move to do that? cuase he was on second click so he had 8. Since Black Panther is on L6, he would have to first go to J7 and then start moving down to not hit the corner of black panther and stop right? If so, it would add 1 more move on making the needed move 9... I don't know if I'm doing this right though...

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:02
FL5 take s4 clix from 2 flurry attacks

qs8 will free move to P7

pass,

clear 5,12/10,7

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:04
if vulture went from J6 to K7 he would hit black panther's corner I think.

so he would have to go to J6,K7,L8,M8,N8,O7,P6,Q6 (costs 2 cause have to soar)

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:04
vulture move from J7 to K8,L8,M8, n8, O8,P7, and Q6 with 1 left over

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:05
ok, I was thinking he was on a different space for some reason.. one to the left. guess not though... so FL took 4 clicks

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:08
ok, wasp 2 will attack QS2. got a 9, so hit.

QS2 takes 2 clicks putting him on his last click

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:09
he was on J7,
but even if on J6 he had enough move ;)

your turn

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:10
wasp 3 will attack quicksilver 9. got an 8, so hit

quicksilver 9 takes 2

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:11
I will pass the rest to clear 1,5,6

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:17
1 will move to P14
12/10 will move to M-6
5 will free move to L-4
7 will free move to P11
2 will use free move to breakaway........

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:18
pc 2's try to breakways.....

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:19
ok, couldn't break away

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:19
2 fails,

pass, clear 4,10,9,11/9,8

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:22
ok, firelord 4 will attack quicksilver 2. 4. miss


firelord 5 will then attack quicksilver 9., 3. miss

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:23
wasp 1 attack quicksilver 2

gt an 8. quicksilver 2 should be dead

unless you PC

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:25
clear 2, and 3 then its your turn. gonna PC that wasp 1 attack on quicksilver 2?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:25
yes pc the wasp 1 attack

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:26
ok, got an 8 again, so QS 2 is dead.

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:27
ok, it did something weird with the redo attack. it did a double post type thing. rolled twice.

should I roll again and disregard those 2?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:30
2 criticals !!

2 to fl4 ko

2 to fl5 ko

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:32
yikes, the FLs are dead then

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:32
11/9 will pick up 9 and move to Q13,
dropping 9 in Q14
8 will free move to O14

pass, clear 1,7,5,12/10

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:33
did you mean 9 to FL 5?

so what should I have done about the double roll thing? should I use the first one, which was a 3, no hit?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:35
you only needed a 5 or higher.

the average of the 2 puts you above that

your turn

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:36
but wouldn't 2 have been dead then and unable to attack firelord?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:37
Yes I had QS9 take out FL5 and then was taxied by vulture to Q14

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:39
2 did not attack, Mystique with range of 6 attack FL4

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:39
so is FL 4 still alive then? cause I thought that was the one that 2 was supposed to have attacked. but 2 was dead at the time, so would he still be alive then?

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:41
2 was never adjacent to elevated FL4 and could not attack even if alive,
Mystique[4] killed FL4 with 1st action

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:42
actually I think I will just say you win this one. I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen eventually.

I am pretty tired and it is 2:30 in the morning here and I have stuff to do tomarrow.

This was really fun though, thanks for the game!

the swarm technique really caught me off gaurd.


Thanks,
JoeyTheButt

admironheart
05/31/2003, 03:44
no problem...good game
I never faced a firelord before
i thought of this team while at work today and wondered how it would do

still worried about invulnerable foes...perplex is my only hope there

good game again

thanks

wes

JoeyTheButt
05/31/2003, 03:47
true, now that I think about it I should have gotten on top of a building and just sniped ya as you tried to all fit up the stairs. Probably would have stood a lot better chance way though.

good game!

admironheart
05/31/2003, 22:27
by the end 3 dead quicksilvers vs 2 firelords and the medic.

If not for invulnerable I would get rid of the vulture and mystique and have 2 more vet quicksilvers!

oops
point total was 299 for my team

I like to think that all the quicksilvers all over the place was akin to the multiple man popping up everywhere!

Now to get 10 quicksilvers and to paint them like multiple man...I think he was green costume!?!

So does this count as part of the Firelord evaluation ?
I do not think he is all that tough. Sure 1 vs 1 he is a beast, but you beat him with numbers. If all a team is made of uber characters, then the Sentinal of Galactus will toast them, but throw in a balanced or tactic driven team and he fares no better than any of the other big guns!

take care
wes