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Just in time for her release into Heroclix, Donna Troy gets killed in the comics! Graduation Day, as the Titans/Young Justice crossover is called, seems to be cleaning house of old Titans. Lilith, a support character was killed last month, and now Donna gets it this month. This has to be one of the most tragic characters in DC. She was a sidekick to Wonder Woman, then a Titan, changed powers, origins, species, lost a child and husband, and was forced to serve under Darkstar John Stewart. Rest in Peace, Donna, you sure deserve it.
Now if they would just get rid of Stewart.......
Frontman
06/17/2003, 23:08
Considering the Pearly Gates are really revolving doors in comic book Heaven, don't put Donna out for the count. (Think about all the times Raven bought it in the Titans.)
And, wasn't Donna really a Titan titan? As in, like a demi-god?
She'll be back.
PEACE!!!
Tim
I think DC has a better record for characters staying dead, than say, Marvel. New characters assume the mantle, but Troia will probably stay gone. She is too similar to Wonder Woman, and with a new Wonder Girl, she isn't really needed. Raven is a special case, and not killed in the normal sense. Troia got it through the heart.
Nice spoiler in the title there. (Although I'm pretty sure everyone who cares is already aware.)
In regards to whether or not Troia is gone for good or not...
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Early in the series we see that Donna has been having dreams in which she is a mythic warrior. After her death, the series ends with Donna waking up in some netherworld battlefield, picking up a weapon and heading off to do battle. It pretty much looks a lot like an Avalon situation, with the great hero getting to fight for their destiny in the afterlife. Considering she has died as an avatar time and time again, and considering they went to great lengths to show that she still is alive in some sort of realm I can't imagine she'll be gone longer than 2 or 3 years.
There are only three deaths so far that seem to be irrevocable. Captain Mar-Vell, Bucky, and The Flash (Barry Allen. Usually X-men can cheat death. It might be a power all mutants share. Other than that, not too many people come back. They are usually clones. For DC, anyone with an "S" logo gets a pass as the current creative crew continues to erase Crisis and all of John Byrne's work. I think DC characters stay dead because The Joker is using up lives to stay in existence. In Marvel, Wonderman doesn't count due to physics. He can be spreadout, but never truly destroyed.
Yeah, I'd heard it was coming, and I'm sure she'll be back someday, but it still made me a little sad. Sniff.
Won't keep me from kicking butt with her CCE, though!!!!
Frontman
06/18/2003, 07:28
Originally posted by Briel
There are only three deaths so far that seem to be irrevocable. Captain Mar-Vell, Bucky, and The Flash (Barry Allen. Usually X-men can cheat death. For DC, anyone with an "S" logo gets a pass as the current creative crew continues to erase Crisis and all of John Byrne's work. I think DC characters stay dead because The Joker is using up lives to stay in existence.
Nice comment about the Joker. lol. Why screw with Crisis or Byrne's work? Both were well done.
And, BTW, Peter David brought Bucky back from the dead in the Hulk years ago. Agnamemnon (sp?) the leader of the Pantheon, left the group and reverted to his original appearance, that of a young boy/man. Aggy takes and starts walking down the street, past Steve Rogers, who saw Aggy in a storefront window and says "Bucky?"
PEACE!!!
Tim
Mayberry Bat
06/18/2003, 07:47
Don't forget Jason Todd (Robin II) stays dead.
As far as Donna goes, I wouldn't fret to much. Like drop19 said, they went through great lengths to show her at the end of the story. She'll pop back up when some writer wants her back and convinces DC there's a way to do it. Personally I thought one of the Young Justice members were supposed to buy the farm, and one or two Titans. Seemed weird that no YJ characters died.
They are still being developed and some have (or had) their own books, so I doubt Impulse, Robin, or Superboy would die, and Wondergirl is just getting developed. They are all on the poster for the new Teen Titans book, along with Starfire, Cyborg, Changeling, and Raven, looking very Perez-esque from the first book, WAAAAAY back in New Teen Titans #1.
Mayberry Bat
06/18/2003, 08:05
Oh yeah. Those four I knew wouldn't go because they're the legacy of existing characters. I mean Empress and a one or two more (I didn't read YJ, so I don't know them that well) could've bitten the dust.
I can't wait for Geoff Johns take on the Titans though. I haven't been this excited since Marv & George were in they're Titans heyday.
Anybody not listed in my above post, plus Arsenal and Nightwing forming the new Outsiders, is up for possible dust-biting. Remember, Donna was a legacy-carrying character, too.
Mayberry Bat
06/18/2003, 08:27
Gotta respectfully disagree there Jay. Arsenal, maybe. Nightwing, very very doubtful.
All I'm saying, as a couple of other have too, is that the ending of the Graduation Day miniseries left a loophole for Donna to come back. I mean Dove had been "dead" for how long since the Armageddon storyline, and Geoff brought her back with a loophole in JSA. Bucky, Robin II, Mar-vell, and Flash (Barry Allen) stay dead, that's about it. It would surprise me to not see Donna again sometime down the line. They just want this new group of Titans to have their own identity first.
You misunderstood me. Arsenal and Nightwing WILL survive to be in the New Outsiders book.
Frontman
06/19/2003, 07:29
Originally posted by JayThor
They are still being developed and some have (or had) their own books, so I doubt Impulse, Robin, or Superboy would die, and Wondergirl is just getting developed. They are all on the poster for the new Teen Titans book, along with Starfire, Cyborg, Changeling, and Raven, looking very Perez-esque from the first book, WAAAAAY back in New Teen Titans #1.
Robin, Starfire, Cyborg, Changeling, Raven. That's the lineup for the new cartoon this summer on Cartoon Network. Kinda funny that those 5 will be a part of the Titans, and then add in Impulse (now going to go as Kid Flash) and Wondergirl as a tip of the hat to the original Titans, and Superboy for kicks.
We will have to see where this book takes us.
PEACE!!!!
Tim
They need to have Wondergirl,Superboy and Kid Flash make appearences in Teen Titans,that would almost be as interesting as seeing a Teen Titans and Justice League crossover.
Gwen Stacy and Uncle Ben will always stay dead, too.
Thunderbolts
07/04/2003, 21:44
Bucky and (naked) Uncle Ben were cloned in Deadpool #0, which was one of the best comics ever. (Deadpool Vs the lamest dead characters in Marvel - yes, it was billed as that). Of course now they are indeed dead along with all the other clones of lame characters. :)
Colossus has stayed dead, and marvel has stoped X-men creators from bringing him back. But this probably will not last.
Originally posted by Braden
Colossus has stayed dead, and marvel has stoped X-men creators from bringing him back. But this probably will not last.
We got a heroclix of him, Don't we?
Cliff Stockton
07/04/2003, 22:34
Well, even ol' Ollie Queen didn't stay outta the picture too long and he was blown up by a bomb! Superman couldn't even find anything left of him after the blast.
Luckily his ol' buddy Hal was able to bring him back into our lives...albeit soulless. Thank goodness he was able to convince his soul to reenter his body and come back to life on Earth. Too bad Barry won't have a playmate in the great beyond anymore. No more arrows to chase on a bright sunny afternoon.
I liked how they revived GA. He was never a big favorite of mine but I've always liked the classic characters from his era myself. Hawkman came back too but we knew that would happen eventually. We just didn't know how.
I'm sure they'll find a way to bring Donna Troy back some day as well.
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