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Heroclixrules
09/13/2003, 14:26
Hi guys. I dont know if anyone has posted this already, but my distributer got a flyer regarding critical mass. Here is the front and back.

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Aside from the very cool looking Venom on the back, if you look closely you can see a couple figures on the side of the box (front pic)

It looks to me like a Captain Marvel to the right, 2nd one down. He looks like he has a silver ring. To the left of him is a man who's mostly green with a bit of yellow, and horns. Could this be Loki? I cant tell what the top 2 are, although the top right person looks like its in a pose that the Rhino would be in. Good news for collectors though, if you look at the Spider-Man at the bottom, he has a red ring, meaning he will have 3 versions instead of being a unique. What do you all think?

Manchine
09/13/2003, 14:28
You the Man!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Rynth
09/13/2003, 14:34
The red ring doesn't garuntee that he'll be an REV, just look at the early pics of Thor sans flight base and arch enemy

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 14:35
cool you can see captain marvel on the side of the box!!!!!!
and it looks as if there will be another version of cyclops because you there is a laser being shot out the side of the box. auuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. aww #### it just pissed my pants.:disappoin

CyberVenom
09/13/2003, 14:38
Sweet Sassy Malassy! I'm already having convultions about about the Venom figure!

I'm already ready to start making trades to get all the versions of him!!

On the sides, here's what I'm guessing:
Top 2: I dunno, and Rhino
Next 2: Brood Queen and Captain Marvel
Bottom one: Venom


*droooooooool*

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 14:40
but the bottom one is spidey not venom:cheeky:

Manchine
09/13/2003, 14:41
Yeah but the Second Gif there has Venom!

You can see him in all his Glory.

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 14:41
the one on the top left sort of looks like shocker!!!

Manchine
09/13/2003, 14:42
PS

And Venom has an AE base and so does Spidey.

Miraclo
09/13/2003, 14:42
Another (minorly) interesting thing is that this was apparently printed prior to the change of release date. This mentions November, which was what the original release rumor was for. I'm hoping we get a confirmation of the CM release date soon after Indy hits the shops, if not before. I'm hoping for December 3rd.

CyberVenom
09/13/2003, 14:43
Like it's been pointed out already, there's a red beam coming from the side of the first gif's box.

Maybe WizKids is redoing some of the figures from Infinity Challenge that we all complained about?

CyberVenom
09/13/2003, 14:45
Venom and Spidey AE's bases.

That confirms it......my heart has now officially stopped.

:)

ciriquen
09/13/2003, 14:46
Why is Venom in a (to be generous) Karate Kid pose? (My first, less generous thought was that he was dancing ballet...)

Is this how we want to see Spideys nemesis? Prancing about waving webbing like a feather boa???

Manchine
09/13/2003, 14:46
Thing is remember you can still have spidey and venom team up. Just use the older sets of Spiderman.

:laugh: :laugh: :p ;) ;)

CyberVenom
09/13/2003, 14:46
Quick! Look at the side of the box directly opposite of the red beam, just under Venom!

Is that Daredevil's face???

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 14:47
and on the left side of the box you can clearly see dare deveils face pressed up against the card board.

Manchine
09/13/2003, 14:47
Maybe he's the Tinkerbell of Venoms.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Colossus81
09/13/2003, 14:50
If you read the 2nd image on the back it says 1 rulebook included. There was another thread out about if they were going to pull the starters and put the new rules in. Guess they figured they would just handle the problem with crit mass.

msdiener
09/13/2003, 14:50
Wow, when I first looked at the picture of the box I couldn't figure out who any of them were. After seeing your suggestions of who might be on the side of the box, I think that you are absolutely correct. Rhino upper right, Loki middle left (with what looks like a yellow ring, so hopefully he is an REV), Captain Mar-Vell middle/lower right, Spider-Man lower left.

Who is that in the upper left? It looks like he has orange/red boots, gloves, shoulders and helmet, with maybe spikes or points on his helmet. Any guesses? I'll have to look through the Marvel Encyclopedia and see if I can find anyone who looks like that.

Boy, I am excited about this set based on what I've seen so far.

CyberVenom
09/13/2003, 14:50
And on the side of the box, under the Spider-Man and Captain Marvel figures, it looks like that figure is playing with......a Patch figure!!

Okay, that wasn't THAT big a' deal. We knew that figure was coming. :)

Transprime
09/13/2003, 14:55
awesome silver surfer
when does this come out?

Transprime
09/13/2003, 14:56
awesome silver surfer
when does this come out?

suprsktrjustn
09/13/2003, 15:05
Is it just me or does spidey and venom look like they are gonna go into a hardcore dance competition. Even with all the crazy dancing i still think venom looks cool, i can't wait for this set.

skeevo666
09/13/2003, 15:08
Originally posted by suprsktrjustn
Is it just me or does spidey and venom look like they are gonna go into a hardcore dance competition.


Maybe they've been hanging out at the arcade too much :p


Super stoked about Mar-Vell being in this set! Bring on the cosmic!!!!!!

Manchine
09/13/2003, 15:20
Venom and Spidey the new Dance Dance Revolution Champions of the world. LOL

Manchine
09/13/2003, 15:28
Originally posted by VeXx_TheCovert
and on the left side of the box you can clearly see dare deveils face pressed up against the card board.

Well Dormammu is also speculated to be in this set. Dormammu also has horns like that.

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 15:35
guys check out my thread on who is better plz

SpiderClone
09/13/2003, 15:48
I hate that Venom and Spidey seem to be AEs, but regardless WIZKIDS, I LOVE YOU!!!! Venom looks awesome. The only two figures that need to be done now are Scarlet Spider and Carnage. I have renewed faith that WK will come through with those two.

Heroclixrules
09/13/2003, 15:50
This is an odd thing to suggest, but does anyone remember Jack-O-Lantern? The villain with a pumpkin for a head? Does his costume scheme match the color scheme of the guy in the upper left corner of the box?

drgnoftyr
09/13/2003, 15:51
venom looks like he's trying the crane kick from karate kid pt 1

Kaneda
09/13/2003, 15:52
i think it could be living lazer or the unicorn

it is so hard to tell

hulkamania85
09/13/2003, 16:04
I hope Venom is an REV.

dj_sha
09/13/2003, 16:07
What's with Wizkids and the "guy on block" scheme? Venom and Spidey both have it. How exactly will jumping over a block change Spidermans stats? Maybe he'll have l/c now! Wouldn't that be different!

mark6574
09/13/2003, 16:17
The block doesn't mean different powers, it's just a nice action pose. Did you want the same pose for every Spiderman that ever got made? A little variety is nice.

whitestripe
09/13/2003, 16:29
bad news i heard another elektra is coming out
wizkids said that hey would relese a new hulk,spiderman,wolverine and elektra with EVERY marvel sets

Manchine
09/13/2003, 16:32
Originally posted by whitestripe
bad news i heard another elektra is coming out
wizkids said that hey would relese a new hulk,spiderman,wolverine and elektra with EVERY marvel sets

Yep thats old news whitstripe. The older members here knew about that before XP was released.

:laugh: :p ;) :laugh: :p ;)

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 16:41
I hope we see some obscure characters

It actually adds more fun to the game

Manchine
09/13/2003, 16:45
Bring me the Obscure

Beetle (My Favorite Comic Book Villian)
Kangaroo
Catseye
Jack O' Lantern
Frenzy
TIger Shark

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

msdiener
09/13/2003, 16:46
You know, that figure in the upper left looks an awful lot like Thanos . . .

Marty Mcfly
09/13/2003, 16:48
I'm all for Mysterio, Kraven, Hydro-Man, Electro, Cameleon, Shocker, and Scorpion clix

whitestripe
09/13/2003, 17:03
i feel outdated....
and i have been playing for more than a year

PantherPriest
09/13/2003, 17:13
Well look at that. We might just be getting previews here sometime next month.

wouldn't THAT be exciting.

drgnoftyr
09/13/2003, 17:25
Originally posted by whitestripe
i feel outdated....
and i have been playing for more than a year


your not the only one whitestripe :laugh:

The Charlatan
09/13/2003, 17:31
It's really hard to make out the guys on the box. The one on the bottom is Venom (easy to compare to his pic in the second shot), and the flying guy could be Captain Marvel. The top one in the strange pose, is that Rhino charging? The other two are a complete mystery to me, the top one looks like Spider-Man, but the pose is wrong, and all i can tell from the fig below him is that's it's apparently a Rookie Something...

f1aherty
09/13/2003, 17:34
someone should copy and paste it to a paint document and zoom in.....Id do it, but I dont read many comics so I wouldnt be able to identify.

GL4Life
09/13/2003, 17:34
I'm trying to figure out where you guys see this Daredevil head...are you talking about the little circle on every package that shows a hand holding a figure? Thats all I can see. Course my monitor sucks...

GL4Life
09/13/2003, 17:38
Nevermind I see it. I was looking for red. I don't think its Daredevil though...eyes don't look right

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 17:40
The Charlatan you idiot that spider-man on bottom left not venom!!!

Mugwump
09/13/2003, 17:49
Maybe that mystery fig is Zemo...

Kensou
09/13/2003, 17:49
Originally posted by Manchine
Yeah but the Second Gif there has Venom!
You can see him in all his Glory.
Yeah, Venom in all his DANCIN' glory
Bwuahahahaha

But really Dancin' Queen is Disco Dazzler, I hope they made it

Manchine
09/13/2003, 17:51
Shin needs to do a dance dance revolution skit with Those 2. LOL

Omses
09/13/2003, 18:06
Man Venom's pose is terible.
rest is cool though.

Darkelf2
09/13/2003, 18:17
where's Deadpool, and Punisher!?

Redleg
09/13/2003, 18:18
I like Venom's pose. Think of it as he's dropping in ready to cause a mess of trouble.

I still don't see Daredevil though.

The Charlatan
09/13/2003, 18:18
Originally posted by VeXx_TheCovert
The Charlatan you idiot that spider-man on bottom left not venom!!!

Hm, you maybe right, all I can make out is a dark figure with outstrectched limbs on top of something. I thought the white area in the center of the figure was Venom's spider, but it could be the light coming through the open area between Spiderman's arms.

The Ridge
09/13/2003, 18:23
If they do another Daredevil I hope it's his yellow costume and he's a Unique. The last thing I need is another DD R/E/V set.

Manchine
09/13/2003, 18:25
Originally posted by Darkelf2
where's Deadpool, and Punisher!?

Punisher will not be in this one.

Firebrand32
09/13/2003, 18:28
I just zoomed into the pic as a gif, I agree with the obvious E Rhino, V Spidey, Capt Mar-Vell, although I think that's a unique. I can't make out the one everyone thinks is Loki, but he does have a yellow ring. As for the top one, after zooming over and over, the color scheme is blue, orange, and grayish. I really think its Thanos outstretching his arms. There's a silver ring on him and we all want him so bad, who wouldn't think he'd be included in Critical Mass as a foil to Silver Surfer? Just my two cents, but I believe whole-heartedly that is Thanos.

NWO
09/13/2003, 18:30
Maybe the laser shooting out is Shocker. The Cyclops now I think is pretty good in representing him.

basilisk220
09/13/2003, 18:42
i love captain mar-vell my favorite marvel character

if that is thanos do u think he will be captain mar-vell archenemy

Firebrand32
09/13/2003, 18:42
others have identified the middle left fig as Diablo which looks right when you think about it. As for the top left, I still think Thanos, but some are saying Dormammu. I guess the only way to tell would be rather the belt is orange or yellow. Otherwise, their costumes are somewhat similar and hard to tell from this pic. Maybe if I saw it in person?

basilisk220
09/13/2003, 18:45
also has anybody read the little blurb under hulk and surfer "the heaviest marvel hitters slug it out on your tabletop" i think there is going to be some huge 200+ point figs in this set.

Manchine
09/13/2003, 18:54
If thats true It will be Marvel's first 200+ points characters.


Starts the Chant
Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer,

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 19:04
i think that the fig. on top left is terrax.

what do you think?

Manchine
09/13/2003, 19:05
I would say it Dormammu.

Phantom
09/13/2003, 19:08
Originally posted by Manchine
If thats true It will be Marvel's first 200+ points characters.


Starts the Chant
Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, Surfer, You mean other than Savage Hulk?

hair10
09/13/2003, 19:09
What is Venom doing? A ballet?

Manchine
09/13/2003, 19:11
Nope Savage Hulk wasnt 200+.

DUH!!!!!

He was just 201 wasnt he. Dang it why was I thinking he was 200 points. LOL

whitestripe
09/13/2003, 19:14
actually i like venoms pose looks like he is just landing from a jump

Thomthemonk
09/13/2003, 19:15
is it captain Mar-vell or captain marvel?? cause i loooovvvee captain marvel with all of my body.

Captain Spoon
09/13/2003, 19:16
Has Thanos gone on an Atkins diet? No. So i conclude the upper right figure isn't Thanos.

I was hoping it be Baron Zemo. But the color scheme doesn't match.

-SPOON!-

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 19:16
Omg it looks like it is deadpool

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 19:18
and that is a silver ring

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 19:21
oh yeah it can't be dormammu because his color scheme is wrong and he doesn't have a flaming head

The Ridge
09/13/2003, 19:27
After zooming into that Captain Marvel I would have to say that theirs a bit of pinky flesh around the face. So I don't think it's Genis. I could be wrong because Genis is the current Captain Marvel and may appeal to those reading the comic at the moment.

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 19:39
I say it is Captain Mar-vell

Deadpool91
09/13/2003, 19:59
no, it doesn't look like deadpool, although i wish
i love the venom pose, heck i just love that venom is coming out period. and loki is my top 3 most wanted so i hope that's right.

and as for the top left on the side. it does look ALOT like thanos stretching out. although my first instinct was a redone hobgoblin, but heroclixrules brought up a good thought that maybe it's jack-o-lantern.

i cannot wait for this set!!!!!!

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 20:12
Bad news for all of you


THANOS ISN'T RED

I zoomed in on him HE IS A RED FIGURE

ohoni
09/13/2003, 20:13
It's kinda sad that their tag-line is "The Action has Reached Critical Mass" at exactly the point that they've slowed the game down to a plodding crawl-fest. ;)

And yeah, Venom does look a little light on his feet.

Hawksmoor
09/13/2003, 20:19
Originally posted by Jason Blood
Bad news for all of you


THANOS ISN'T RED

I zoomed in on him HE IS A RED FIGURE

But Thanos does have orange in his costume, and with the image quality, that could easily be orange. It's even in the right places to match up with Thanos' outfit.

I Am The Game
09/13/2003, 20:25
I received the panphlet a little early, and the rookie on the bottom left is indeed Diablo.

Mar-Vell for sure, he's caucasian.

Venom looks great, what are you guys complaining about?

The mystery figure on top with the purple body and orange trim? I'll take the 1,000,000 to 1 odds that it's Swarm! He's entirely made of bees, and to my knowledge, appeared in two issues of Champions and an issue of Spectacular Spidey.

VeXx_TheCovert
09/13/2003, 20:26
but wouldnt he be a flier?

Gambit
09/13/2003, 20:30
top right looks like captain america charging w/ his shield!

Great news for cap fans!

cscottk
09/13/2003, 20:32
Very, very, unlikely that Thanos will be coming out again. There are too many not made already.

I Am The Game
09/13/2003, 20:34
Vexx, Swarm wouldn't be a flyer for the same reason as Whirlwind: he can fly, but can't carry anyone while doing it.

I Am The Game
09/13/2003, 20:35
Dammit, know what else that purple guy could be? A Dire Wraith hound...

Heroclixrules
09/13/2003, 20:48
Originally posted by I Am The Game
I received the panphlet a little early, and the rookie on the bottom left is indeed Diablo.


Where does it say/show that he is Diablo?

cscottk
09/13/2003, 21:11
Come on D-Man. Come on D-Man!

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 21:38
I just E-mailed wizkids

hopefully they can tell me by the end of next week

Firebrand32
09/13/2003, 21:38
i'm not saying it is Thanos for sure, although it certainly looks exactly like him. As for flying, when in comics does he ever really fly? He teleports. But I don't think I've ever seen him fly. HS speed? That could cover a lot of things. And, to beat a dead horse, the fig's color scheme matches up. Critical Mass suggests power figures. WizKids have been good about listening to our wish lists, and a lot of people have asked for a more well-rounded Thanos. Plus, that AV has to change. The pose, the colors, everything suggests that Thanos is a possibility. I just don't see how people can be so adamant that he is not in the set.

Genin
09/13/2003, 21:55
http://genin.baddream.org/CMexpanded.GIF

Spiderman is obviously a Veteran so he isn't in the picture.

The Bottom Left figure is a Rookie so he's obviously R/E/V.

Top Right is an Experienced so it's another R/E/V.
Top Left and Bottom Right appear to be Uniques with the bottom right one being a pink faced human.

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 21:57
Thank you for getting that pic up

I TOLD YOU HE WAS RED

HE IS AS RED AS THE HEROCLIX THINGY:grin:

Genin
09/13/2003, 22:01
Heheh, Spiderman AND Venom....Carnage would just complete it Manchine ;)

Manchine
09/13/2003, 22:15
Noooooooooooo

Jason Blood
09/13/2003, 22:23
I have to agree with Manchine

Carnage is a little too flace for my taste

Ooh look at me I'm like Venom but I can make axe things and pointy stuff and I'M CRAAAZY OOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!

Genin
09/13/2003, 22:25
Heheh, then how about a special elastic carnage figure which can fit over other figures ala the Carnage Cosmic? ;P

falcarrion
09/13/2003, 22:38
i have a feeling the figure on the left second down is a Saurid.
It looks reptilian to me.

Gargantua
09/13/2003, 23:00
I feel like we're discussing a bad UFO or Loch Ness Monster picture. I'll grant that I can see Capt. Marvel (in one version or another) in the lower right figure and the bottom does match Venom, but as for the rest, well, the number of different people who are each sure that they see a different figure in them, it's kind of a wishful thinking thing. The people who really want another Thanos are seeing Thanos. The people who want Carnage see Carnage. It's just kind of funny.

Obviously the figures are Mentallo and the Impossible Man
;)

Genin
09/13/2003, 23:02
Obviously.

Manchine
09/13/2003, 23:19
Hey, Heroclixrules, you have done something really special. You got posted on HCRealms Front Page news.

:laugh: :p ;) :laugh: :p ;)

DOOMSTRIKER
09/13/2003, 23:22
the one on the top right is rhino,thats all ill say

Abomination
09/13/2003, 23:32
Is it just me or does Venom look like he is training under Mr. Miyagi?
"Balance Eddie-san, learn balance to beat the cobrakai"

Perfectstorm
09/14/2003, 00:02
That figure in the color pick isnt spiderman.
Spidermans scult has already be revealed, and in detail.
But he does have the same shape, color scheme, and a like pose.
So who looks exactly like spiderman and would be in a heroclix expansion.

Looks like we could have a scarlet spider (or spider-cide, god i hope it isnt spider-cide) on our hands

Genin
09/14/2003, 00:03
The figure on the bottom left of my zoomed pic who got cutoff IS spidey :)

WarHULK
09/14/2003, 00:06
Looks to me like the reptilian fellow in the lower left would be the late 90's version od the Lizard *bleck* I hope I'm incorrect about this as they already chose to create a blah version of the Vulture...

I'll agree that the top left looks like Thanos, but he looks to be far too small on his base to be him. The reddish look could also be the distortion of a gold color... I don't know, the way the colors are laid out look exactly like the layout of Thanos... Anyone else have a simular layout?

Oh, and that's definately Daredevil's face. Dormammu's face doesn't look like that... and I don't believe I've EVER seen a picture of him with horns like that... I'm hoping we get a DD instead of an Elektra... and I too hope it will be yellow.

Venom looks very cool. Not the pose I would have picked (crouching on the pillar, one arm reaching low down it, face looking forward with the tongue twisting, drooling green) but this one works too. I hope the stats are good... maybe they'll do him right the first time... though they still haven't made a Spidey I'm 100% happy with... or even 90%... but yea, cool sculpts...

MasterWolverin
09/14/2003, 00:13
I have a question. Has anyone here playtested for HC
? If so, before the set comes out do they use triangular paper figs with pics on them for it? If they do, Loki is indeed going to be in this set and let's just say that Silver Surfer and Firelord aren't going to be lonely for their master for too much longer....

NotOppressed
09/14/2003, 00:31
Upper Left hand guy...

Green and Orange? I just used a paint shop program to zoom in on it....

Living Laser?

Check this link for a costume comparison for those who are not familliar with the character.

http://www.toymania.com/archives/ironman/laser.html

Optimusprime62
09/14/2003, 00:34
####, when are they going to make a spider-ham

Cliff Stockton
09/14/2003, 01:49
The guy on the top left with a lot of red in his costume and orange on the figure...

Adam Warlock maybe? He should definitely be a unique.

Nevest
09/14/2003, 01:53
I'm hoping that's just a bad picture of the venom sculpt because it just looks silly. He's supposed to be dark, crazy, and animalistic. If they're going to put him on the little building top stand like Spider-Man then they should have him hunched over with his massive tongue hanging out looking sinister, not prancing around doing the karate kid pose. The more I think about it the more I don't like the little building terrain below the Spider-Man and Venom. I mean as I move them around the map are they carrying that piece of building with them? Do they get a hindering terrain bonus? Can they be carried, because I imagine that building is kinda heavy? I know I'm just being difficult here but it just seems weird to have terrain in a sculpt when that figure is going to be moving all around a map, often times nowhere near a building.

BTW, I think the rest of the figures look great ... well Hulk does still need his bunny slippers.

shin-goji
09/14/2003, 02:11
Brood Queen with Brood. BUG HUNT!!!!

skeevo666
09/14/2003, 02:18
Originally posted by Nevest
The more I think about it the more I don't like the little building terrain below the Spider-Man and Venom. I mean as I move them around the map are they carrying that piece of building with them? Do they get a hindering terrain bonus? Can they be carried, because I imagine that building is kinda heavy? I know I'm just being difficult here but it just seems weird to have terrain in a sculpt when that figure is going to be moving all around a map, often times nowhere near a building.


Did the 2 l'il Penguins on the Penguin's base cause you this much trouble . . ?

Retardog
09/14/2003, 02:24
Uh....the guy in the top right is Mysterio.

WarHULK
09/14/2003, 02:38
Mysterio with no cape? That would be just wrong...

hulkguy
09/14/2003, 02:51
maybe it's just me but top left looks like iron fist of power man and iron fist.

Genin
09/14/2003, 03:25
Originally posted by Retardog
Uh....the guy in the top right is Mysterio.

Mysterio charging headfirst into battle? I kinda doubt it...

Legion-of-Doom
09/14/2003, 03:29
Am I the only one who thinks the Surfers fig sucks? His board is tiny ! It looks all out of proportion. When he comes out I'm just gonna use my custom SS. Also my computer sucks, but that top left guy looks red and black to me, possibly Deadpool ?

hulkguy
09/14/2003, 03:36
on another thread someone said it's Dormammu.

Genin
09/14/2003, 03:38
Originally posted by Legion-of-Doom
Am I the only one who thinks the Surfers fig sucks? His board is tiny ! It looks all out of proportion. When he comes out I'm just gonna use my custom SS. Also my computer sucks, but that top left guy looks red and black to me, possibly Deadpool ?

Only if it's Deadpool Varient #27 aka "Deadpool in colourfull medeival garb shouting at seagulls"

The Werle
09/14/2003, 04:08
Its not deadpool, not the right spots for his costume coloration, and his pose begs for swords or guns or attitude of some kind.

I agree that Surfer's pose is kind of disapointing, he just doesn't impress. A bigger board and maybe some glowing energy around his fists would do wonders.

My guess for the top left would have to be Batroc the Leaper, because the colors almost work and he would be the most absurd figure ever. Zoot alour, it is ze leaper!

The Werle
09/14/2003, 04:10
and am I the only one who thinks Smart Hulk looks like #### too? His body is just awkward, and his face looks stupid.

Venom's sculpt could have been a lot better, i wonder what the explanation for the chimney-hopping spiderman figures is.

I guess its inevitable, but I hope that somehow there is no Elektra in the set. We have way too many figures already for a character that nobody in particular even likes.

SpiderClone
09/14/2003, 04:18
Originally posted by Perfectstorm
That figure in the color pick isnt spiderman.
Spidermans scult has already be revealed, and in detail.
But he does have the same shape, color scheme, and a like pose.
So who looks exactly like spiderman and would be in a heroclix expansion.

Looks like we could have a scarlet spider (or spider-cide, god i hope it isnt spider-cide) on our hands


Now you're talking. Hope we DO have Scarlet Spider on our hands!!! Scarlet Spider deserves more respect, he was an awesome character, and needs to be done justice with AT LEAST a Unique.

Retardog
09/14/2003, 04:44
Here's a handy picture I made to illustrate my Mysterio idea.

http://webpages.marshall.edu/~shuler4/stuff/cmmysterio.gif

You can see the shading of the underside of the bowl on the Critical Mass box. He has the cape bunched up under the helmet, and then he has those eye things underneath. The pose looks more like he's getting ready to smash a smoke pellet than charge into battle.

The Charlatan
09/14/2003, 05:17
Mysterio? Naw, though I do hope he's in the set. I still think it's Rhino, charging forwards with only one leg on the base, the other streched out behind him as he runs. And I'm now pretty sure that the red guy across from him is Carnage, with one of his arms morhed into a sword and swung back.

Of course I apparently got the guy on the bottom wrong, mixing up Spider-Man and Venom, so it's not like anyone has to believe me.

Toku666
09/14/2003, 05:36
I happen to like Elektra quite a lot. Just because you're not a fan, and none of your friends are, doesn't mean that nobody is. She's been a popular character for pretty much as long as she's been around, otherwise the books featuring her wouldn't sell and Marvel probably wouldn't have bothered putting her in every set.

On the other hand: I think it's a bit ridiculous that they decided to put all the "big names" in EVERY set.

CensusTaker
09/14/2003, 06:06
Does anyone else hate the way Patch has his claws out. Wolverine as Patch almost never used his claws! I was hoping for a fig with CCE as opposed to B/C/F. (i know they're different not the same stat slots, but y'know what I'm saying) I mean, i think the whole `a hulk, a wolvie and spidey and an electra' in every set thing is a big enough wank as it is, but if they're gonna do it, at least do it right.

And i'm not even gonna attemp to guess who the figures on the side are.

Akakrz
09/14/2003, 06:48
Well, after looking at in in photoshop, and the picture supplied here that is zoomed, I think that the top left character is Carnage. each end of his hand indicate that there are some sword like things popping out. Also, the color is very mixed up with the black looking color, and if you look closely you can kinda see the white indicating the eyes. However, it almost looks like the character is wearing boots, so I'm almost thrown off.........One out-in-left-field guess is that it could be Deathwatch, a lame Ghost Rider enemy if I remember correctly....Carnage makes sense though, cause Venom and Spidey are appearing in the set.

However there is NO way its Thanos, cause we'd see a new Captain America before him, and that figure is was to small, and wimpy looking to be Thanos, just look at the figure next to him that we all assume is Rhino.

Gacy's Clown
09/14/2003, 06:49
Man, this set is gonna be sooooo, lame. I mean there hardly looks to be anyone who's gonna have BCF....:cheeky:

Gacy's Clown
09/14/2003, 06:59
I didn't think Carnage was even in this set.....
I'll have to agree with the 'tardog on this one.

Draggor
09/14/2003, 07:48
NOOOOOOOOOOOO, I can't see them. The pictures aren't working. Stop torturing me so.

Only one more thing to say- where's my case?

The Ridge
09/14/2003, 07:50
I can see me modding a spare Surfer when this set comes. Add putty to board and around one arm for energy blast. That Red figure at the top could be Daredevil though I hope not, I want a yellow version.

Draggor
09/14/2003, 07:56
Ok, it works now. No idea what any of those figures are though. I like the sound of there being a few heavy hitters in this set though. I guess we'll start seeing previews soon if it's set for early december release.

andrew_G
09/14/2003, 08:37
This thread is so "loch Ness Monster Picture", I mean I want to see a Loki in the new set (I really, really want one - I was so pissed that Enchantress was his mortal enemy and not Loki) but I just can't see a loki on the new set box.

Oh, wait a sec, if I squint my eyes and stand on my head ...

Actually as an aside wouldn't it be cool to have another Thor, probably as a unique, with his first click as his secret identity - Dr Donald Blake. You'd give him a high attack value and support for his first click. I think it would be interesting to play with a high cost medic (I don't count Dr Strange as it is almost pot luck whether he lands on his Support clicks). Do you keep him as a medic who could heal almost anyone (with his high attack value but zero damage), or do you push him to get to his useful "attacking" clicks (what you are paying the 150++ points for)?

I think this would be so interesting/good to play with - a maybe support piece who is a third to a half of your points.

superfriend
09/14/2003, 11:48
Excellent speculation on this thread!

I am somewhat on the fence. While I understand the reasoning for including Spiderman, Hulk, and Wolverine in each set, I do not wish to see any more of the 40 slots (28 REV + 12U) used to redo existing characters.

Stoked about Venom & Silver Surfer! Kind of like the Spiderman pose. Really hoping we do not get another Elektra, Daredevil, or even Thanos. Far too many unmade characters. I could put up with a new Capt America (U) to AE with Baron Zemo (his face is the MOE logo, he should be available as a figure). I really like the idea of Adam Warlock and Captain Mar-vell.

Krees to fight the Skrulls!

Gambit
09/14/2003, 12:29
about 95% sure that the top right guy is captain america charging (probably ultimates)

msdiener
09/14/2003, 12:37
After looking at a picture of Living Laser, I have to agree with NotOppressed that the figure in the upper left looks like LL. I guessed that it might be Thanos though I felt it was probably too small for the Titan. I would say it definitely, positively, just might be Living Laser (is that coming strong with it or what?).

bizzaro
09/14/2003, 12:45
Originally posted by SpiderClone
The only two figures that need to be done now are Scarlet Spider and Carnage. I have renewed faith that WK will come through with those two.

I beg thee Wizkids, do not succumb to such villianous talk. Scarlet Spider alone drove away legions of fans from comics all by his lonesome.

ludd_gang
09/14/2003, 12:50
Originally posted by I Am The Game
Vexx, Swarm wouldn't be a flyer for the same reason as Whirlwind: he can fly, but can't carry anyone while doing it.

I agree- Phasing for sure.

GeorgeDaGreat
09/14/2003, 13:08
Nice!

jhfrail
09/14/2003, 13:27
Originally posted by bizzaro
I beg thee Wizkids, do not succumb to such villianous talk. Scarlet Spider alone drove away legions of fans from comics all by his lonesome.

I do believe you're confusing "Scarlet Spider" with "Howard Mackie." I want a Scarlet Spider. Wizard magazine can eat my ###, I thought his visual was awesome. The return of the clone was a great initial idea, but as Mackie has proven time and time again (see Mutant X, see also The Brotherhood) he has good ideas, but can't keep them going past about 6 issues. Before they knew it, Marvel was hip deep in clone saga. They could slog through it, or they could drop it. Dropping it would have pissed off the other half of the fans too, so they made the right call by slogging through.

But that top right guy is Mysterio. No doubt about it. The cape is probably close to his bck, being swept around or something. No way is it Rhino. Rhino would have to be like twice that sixe in terms of sheer bulk.

ItsNotMe
09/14/2003, 13:44
Okay, it's time to drop some real work into this thread. I loaded up the box image in Photoshop so I could deform the image back to the correct shape and maybe get a better idea of who was who. Sadly I don't have anyplace handy to store the "corrected" images and the JPEG compression really makes it hard to tell (what I wouldn't give for this image in a high res tiff right now).

Top left: Those things stretching out at both sides are definitely his arms, not a cape to one side. There do not appear to be horns when I skew the image back. This figure appears to be a unique. The outfit is more purple and magenta than red and orange so I'm leaning toward Dormammu but he really isn't clear. FWIW, to rule out some guesses, it definitely is not Thanos, the Living Laser, or the Unicorn since the colors of the outfit are completely wrong for them.

Top right: Definitely a charging pose; right arm back, left arm down to punch, and both legs in a run. Since he's grey and does appear to have a horn I'm going Rhino.

Middle left: It's Loki. No question in my mind about it. It does look funny deformed like that but when you shift the pixels you can clearly see that it's Loki. Funny headgear with an open face, green and yellow outfit, dramatic cape: this is so Loki it's not even funny.

Middle right: I don't even think there's an arguement about who this one is.

Bottom: It's Spidey. It does look like Venom when you're zoomed out but there's red and blue pixels in there.

Funny circle at the very bottom: No clue, but that image is a hand turning a figure. There just isn't enough information to tell what figure that is and no matter how many times I tell my computer to enhance it for some reason it doesn't get any better. :) It, BTW, is not Daredevil's face.

Manchine
09/14/2003, 13:53
Originally posted by ItsNotMe
Top right: Definitely a charging pose; right arm back, left arm down to punch, and both legs in a run. Since he's grey and does appear to have a horn I'm going Rhino.


Could it be Ultimate Mecha Rhino?

WarHULK
09/14/2003, 13:55
Who's face is it that's coming out of the left side of the booster then? Little, tiny horns, bald head... Who else is it?

drgnoftyr
09/14/2003, 14:01
black panther

ItsNotMe
09/14/2003, 14:02
Okay, now I see the face. I thought you guys were seeing the face in the lower right like seeing someone's face in the clouds. :)

Yeah, that one's obvious.

jhfrail
09/14/2003, 14:21
Originally posted by ItsNotMe
Top right: Definitely a charging pose; right arm back, left arm down to punch,

That would mean we're looking at the back of the piece. I don't think the back would be what they chose to picture on the box.

Originally posted by ItsNotMe
and both legs in a run.

Or something. The "foot" is all wrong. It's as long as the lower half of the leg, at least.

Originally posted by ItsNotMe
Since he's grey and does appear to have a horn

I blew it up in Photoshop, but I can't make out any color, it's too dark.. Beyond that, I don't see this horn you do.

I'm still sticking with Retardog on this one. His diagram points stuff out so easily, even Gacy's Clown could follow it (Hi Dan).

CaptainCarl
09/14/2003, 14:40
Is it me or can you see a wave crashing by spidermans arm on the box

could that mean NAMOR......

another incredibly powerful persona in the marvel universe
definately over 100+ points

thecaptain

archie-d
09/14/2003, 14:43
i cant see the top left fig being anyone other than jack o lantern

the head looks big and round.

WarHULK
09/14/2003, 15:28
The problem is that Jack o' Lantern would definately be a flying figure... and that one definately is not. Remember, these are the booster pictures so flight bases should be on all the fliers...

Batman1983
09/14/2003, 15:28
Top Left.

Dormammu: No the head isn't flaming & it does not appear to have that "board" that goes behind Dormammu's head

Thanos: Absolutely not

Power Man: Luke Cage's popularity has been a little more of late (I guess) & I think a majority of the wardrobe points match up. Open shirt is there. Boots are there. However why would he be a Unique & THis guy seems to have gloves... Cage doesn't.

Iron Fist: Maybe exept there doesn't seem to be a tatoo on this clix chest... among other things. However It just may be him & the populatrity of the Character could have Wizkids doing him as a Unique....

Hold the phone after a skew & a close inspection... That may very well be Iron Fist... I make out a faint color change on the chest... Its just so pixelated I missed it at first...

Deadpool91
09/14/2003, 15:36
top right definetly looks like mysterio to me. you can see the two eye looking things on the chest, looks as if he's leaning over ready to throw something, and the cap under what looks to be his bowl head. the cape could be swing around from his back close to his body around front. just can't make it out for sure. i'm definetly thinking it's mysterio

NotOppressed
09/14/2003, 15:38
Originally posted by WarHULK
Who's face is it that's coming out of the left side of the booster then? Little, tiny horns, bald head... Who else is it?

Belasco

Genin
09/14/2003, 15:39
Nah, it's soooooo plain to see that it's Weapon PRIME's Killjoy.

:cheeky:

SLAYER X
09/14/2003, 15:54
I want the punisher, bring him out in a unique version. He never really changed anyway.

Firebrand32
09/14/2003, 15:58
you know, after looking at the top right, I'm less convinced its Rhino. It just doesn't seem right, although that was my first guess. As to top left, it is Thanos. The color scheme matches perfectly. The only question is whether he's too small, but I don't even think this is the case. I'm still betting on Thanos until someone proves me wrong. The costume and colors coincide too close for me to believe its anyone else.

bill4935
09/14/2003, 16:01
Originally posted by WarHULK
The problem is that Jack o' Lantern would definately be a flying figure... and that one definately is not. Remember, these are the booster pictures so flight bases should be on all the fliers...

You're kidding, right?

Because the "Thing" CT Booster has an E Dr. Doom on it without a base. There just might be some changes like that on this one, too.

I hope there's more aliens in this one - beyond the Brood, I mean. And why Diablo before Wizard or the Mad Thinker?


___________________________
Hey - who turned the IMG code on?

DCBebop
09/14/2003, 16:03
I think the top one next to "rhino" is Attuma, which if Namor is in the set then they would be Arch enemies

Nem_Bron
09/14/2003, 16:04
Originally posted by Batman1983
Top Left.



Iron Fist: Maybe exept there doesn't seem to be a tatoo on this clix chest... among other things. However It just may be him & the populatrity of the Character could have Wizkids doing him as a Unique....

Hold the phone after a skew & a close inspection... That may very well be Iron Fist... I make out a faint color change on the chest... Its just so pixelated I missed it at first...

I don't know if anyone remembers,but in preveiws before the explosion set came out, they showed a pic that included iron fist (that wasn't in that set) so it is possible that he got bumped into this set.....i can't see anything really in the color pic and have no real intrest in iron fist, just remembered seeing iron fist in the explosion preveiws, just a thought

Genin
09/14/2003, 16:08
Never saw an Iron Fist for Xplosion...

megamania
09/14/2003, 16:18
Originally posted by ciriquen
Why is Venom in a (to be generous) Karate Kid pose? (My first, less generous thought was that he was dancing ballet...)

Is this how we want to see Spideys nemesis? Prancing about waving webbing like a feather boa???

Base similar to new spidey's...makes it easier for arch-enemy depiction.

Mr.Sinister
09/14/2003, 16:24
I know I'm just adding more to this thread, but I can't believe I'm seeing ELEVEN pages of speculation about what may or may not be on the side of a box that won't come out until November...GEEZ! That's crazy!

Genin
09/14/2003, 16:27
Oh go forcibly evolve someone Sinister :P

skeevo666
09/14/2003, 16:29
Originally posted by Mr.Sinister
ELEVEN pages of speculation about what may or may not be on the side of a box that won't come out until November...GEEZ! That's crazy!


Maybe, but in the words of Judge Dredd: it's legal ;)

beezly
09/14/2003, 16:46
i could see how top right would be mysterio...but his arm is really freakin' long

Transprime
09/14/2003, 16:48
Hey yo Sinister, you should join the X-Clan (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47881)
The rest of you should join too

Manchine
09/14/2003, 16:57
I think they are all SMURFS. LOL

SO Smurf You. :laugh: :p ;) :p ;)

Genin
09/14/2003, 17:00
Scarlet Smurf, Carnage Smurf...

Manchine
09/14/2003, 17:01
Victor Von Gargamel.

Genin
09/14/2003, 17:03
Papa Watcher Smurf, Azreal, Doom's Cat :P

megamania
09/14/2003, 17:04
After enlarging it about 20 times I'm guessing-

Thanos
Rhino
NOT loki green/yellow with bright red located on head. Also something on back....distorted Iron Fist...naw Dunno
Captain marvel...no need to guess

As far how many of us are guessing yet it won't be out until December...so what. It's fun.

darkkrisp
09/14/2003, 17:36
I am sorry for those that do not have Thanos from the Infinity Challenge but get over it that is not him in the upper left. I too believe that it is Jack O' Lantern and for those that say he needs to be a flyer, no he does not fly he has a pogo board and he hops.
blew the pic up to 700 and stood liek 20 feet away the fig in the top right can be no other then rhino. Capt Marvel is in there. The bottom left looks like venom maybe a unique? Loki appears to be the other. If they really do need to put the big guns in each set can we get more Spider-Man Uniques?
We still need Cosmic Spidey that would be great he could fly and go toe to toe with thanos. We got four arm Spidey but we still need Man-Spider, Spider-Carnage, Spider-Man 2099, and Spider-Man Unlimited. Everyone that wants a Spidey in fantastic four outfit with a bag on his head mod him yourself. That fig will never be made since he has no special powers he is still spidey.
I do not believe elektra is a big gun just because of the daredevil movie marvel tries to shove her down are throats we have Elektra assasin fig there is nothing else to make stop. You can only make her in a differnt colored gi so many times and expect people to want her.

Batman1983
09/14/2003, 17:40
no if you skew it straight then its obviously Spidey not Venom... & yes it looks as though its a red base... As for Jack... Well I looked him up on the google & would have to agree to him being a posibility.

Manchine
09/14/2003, 17:47
Originally posted by darkkrisp
I am sorry for those that do not have Thanos from the Infinity Challenge but get over it that is not him in the upper left. I too believe that it is Jack O' Lantern and for those that say he needs to be a flyer, no he does not fly he has a pogo board and he hops.


Actually his vet would fly. In his career he switched from a jumping pogo stick to an actual flying device.

Batman1983
09/14/2003, 17:49
& since (if its not a silver unique) its a blue base That could happen.

Masada
09/14/2003, 17:52
Why in the bloody blue heck would they put Jack O' Lantern in? He's Jason Macendale... AKA the Hobgoblin.

Heimdall
09/14/2003, 17:57
Okay, here is what i guess:

Upper Left: Dormammu, Jack o'Lantern or Thanos (The colour let me think of Dormammu, the pose is either Jack holding a pumkin bomb or Thanos with outstretched arms like in one Panel in Infinity Cahllenge where he stopped a combined attack from Firelord,Thor, Iron Man and Namor).

Upper Right: Either Rhino or a Brood

Middle Left: Loki or Brood

Middle Right: Captain Marvel

Bottom: Venom

Dr RAD
09/14/2003, 18:12
I love you guys. There's more high tech software and speculation being applied to this than to the Zabruder films.

To those who are still having discussions about whether that's spidey or venom in the corner, get over yourselves. I'ts clearly spidey, you can compare the blurred fig to the ones in the next pic, where they are clearly seen. The shape of the building section gives it away.

Quade
09/14/2003, 18:45
That's not vemom on the bottom unless they gave him the same pose as Leeping Spidy...

The Werle
09/14/2003, 18:45
I think the top right is probably rhino, but he does look a bit scrawny. My next best guess would be the Brood Warrior.

Kaitouace
09/14/2003, 20:40
My opinions:

Top Left - NOT Thanos. No way. Don't even see a resemblence. After looking at it myself my best bet is (like someone said) Living Laser. Fits the game well (RCE and multiple arrows) and an Iron Man villain. Obscure but not TOO obscure. Just like Boomerang and Klaw. Colors are close as well.

Top Right - Rhino. The pose makes it too obvious and when I zoom in all I see is grey except for that tip (probably the horn). Pose is way too odd for someone like Mysterio.

Middle Left - My most confusing. After several looks it's gotta be either Loki or maybe Diablo. Loki makes more sense at first character-wise but Diablo makes more sense gamewise probably.

Middle Right - Captain Mar-vell. No question.

Bottom - Spidey. No question. I thought it was Venom at first but upon closer inspection his outstretched "arm" is just leapin' Spidey's leg from a different angle.

DoomLeech
09/14/2003, 21:11
Does nayone see that the venom figure and the spider man are both on top of chimneys?I think that suggests a rooftop battle.

fumetti
09/14/2003, 21:16
Hulk. Spidey. Wolverine.

...again.

I hope they're only uniques so they don't take up much space.

Super Chicken
09/14/2003, 21:45
That Venom pose doesn't look like the Crane Kick from Karate Kid #1 to me. I think its more of a Venom about to web swing away from the fight with a "See-ya later Parker!" type pose.

Quade
09/14/2003, 22:25
Hulk. Spidey. Wolverine.

...again.

I hope they're only uniques so they don't take up much space.

It should not be a surprise at this point. We were told from before IC came out that further expansions would always have these characters in them.

Manchine
09/14/2003, 22:27
Originally posted by fumetti
Hulk. Spidey. Wolverine.

...again.

I hope they're only uniques so they don't take up much space.

Well SPidey is a R/E/V, as rumored. Thank god becuase we need a good R/E/V Spidey.

Hulk is a specific character. Tha same with Wolvie.

Retardog
09/14/2003, 22:31
Since the last picture was kinda shoddy, I did a little cleanup in Photoshop.

http://www.brotherhoodofthefin.com/hc/newmysterio.gif

Mysterio, anyone?

Genin
09/14/2003, 22:40
Sorry, i just don't see it being him.

jhfrail
09/14/2003, 22:44
Originally posted by Retardog
Since the last picture was kinda shoddy, I did a little cleanup in Photoshop.

http://www.brotherhoodofthefin.com/hc/newmysterio.gif

Mysterio, anyone?

AMEN!

In fact, I think that's not a leg, but his cape behind him. Comming out of a visual effect/portal perhaps?

Rhino, feh!

Genin
09/14/2003, 22:48
The only way that could be Mysterio is if he was wearing a Rhino costume :P

WarHULK
09/14/2003, 22:51
OK, that's definately looking like Mysterio... his cape is odd to say the least, but it's also distorted some. Either way, Mysterio or Rhino, I'm happy.

Genin
09/14/2003, 22:53
Yah, but to be honest i'm not entirely convinced either. His "dome" looks waaay too small if it's mysterio and he looks too scrawney if it's rhino.

Gacy's Clown
09/14/2003, 23:01
It looks waaay more Mysterio than Rhino....which I'm completely not seeing at all.

NotOppressed
09/14/2003, 23:06
Originally posted by Genin
The only way that could be Mysterio is if he was wearing a Rhino costume :P

Funniest thing I have ever read that I didn't type.


I now think its a second venom sculpt.

Why can't there be two sculpts of the same figure in the same set?

Its happened before.

New Warrior
09/14/2003, 23:08
If u put it on a diagnal it sort of looks like carnage. The white eyes, teh symboite always shooting off of him and his hand looks like a blade!!!! How sweet would that be?

Blue_Shield
09/14/2003, 23:26
After 13 pages of reading, I have to chime in.

Spidey or Venom -- WHO CARES! we know it's one or the other

My vote is on Mysterio, that be a $#!++y looking Rhino

That is Capt. Marvel(III) when he was going by Genis

I could definitely do with less variants of Hulk/Spidey/Wolverine/Elektra.

Jason Macendale Jr. was the Hobgoblin(III) before he became Jack O' Lantern, but there was a second Jack O' Lantern that hung with the Red Skull's Skeleton Crew. And from the Hobgoblin LE from the Infinity Challenge set, they picked Ned Leeds as the Heroclix Hobgoglin.

And Howard Mackie hasn't been without good points. The Ghost Rider everyone is always creaming about was written by him.

And a worse character than Batroc...Defensor!

boneyard
09/14/2003, 23:34
After doing my own photoshop examination:

Top Left:
Living Laser (http://marvelbook.topcities.com/jklm/llaser.htm)

Top Right: Not sure. The character looks like he is charging, but the limbs look too elongated. Hydro-Man? Are there any other stretching heavy-weights? They could be smoke trails from Mysterio, but I'm just not 100 percent convinced. I'm not familiar with what the Ultimates Rhino looks like, though that's a popular guess...

Middle Left: Possibly Warlock (http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/newmutants/warlock.html)

Middle Right: Captain Mar-Vell (http://marvelbook.topcities.com/abcd/marvell.htm)

Bottom: Venom (in Karate Kid pose)

carterhall98
09/14/2003, 23:50
Originally posted by Manchine
Punisher will not be in this one.

Manchine,

How do you know this for a fact?

CH

Quade
09/15/2003, 00:02
Genis has white hair and black skin when using his powers and that picture clearly has caucasisn skin tone and blonde hair. You can also see the little flip on the front of the hair that is clearly Mar-vell. Genis has short hair.

Bone, I think you are right about Living Lazer

cisum
09/15/2003, 00:23
does anyone know of another link to see the images. i can't see them. it says access is forbidden.:(

GL4Life
09/15/2003, 00:24
Well you can definently see a red team symbol on the base of the Rhino/Misterio so its either Brotherhood or Sinister Syndicate so, my guess is no matter what its one of these guys or someone in their calibre that people want to see. Carnage wouldn't have SS team ability in my opinion since he wouldn;t really work on a team. Hydro0Man it could be as well, but its definently a Spidey or X-Men villian, and I can't think of an X-Men villian that would fit that mold.

darthfatty
09/15/2003, 00:43
I thought this was a no crack zone...

The Charlatan
09/15/2003, 00:49
Originally posted by Retardog
Since the last picture was kinda shoddy, I did a little cleanup in Photoshop.

http://www.brotherhoodofthefin.com/hc/newmysterio.gif

Mysterio, anyone?

Okay, NOW it looks like Mysterio. Please do this to the other unidentifiable figures posthaste.

NotOppressed
09/15/2003, 00:59
[QUOTE]Originally posted by boneyard
[B]After doing my own photoshop examination:

Top Left:
Living Laser (http://marvelbook.topcities.com/jklm/llaser.htm)

Ah... Boneyard... You are a upstanding member of the community and publicly agreeing with me will get you in trouble with the higher powers!

What irks me is that within 6 miles I have 5 comic shops and not one of them has this poster.

What also baffles the mind... no being that has seen this poster first hand can identify the figures.

So I have some questions.

1) Is our scanned image worse in clarity than the original.

2) Why hasn't anyone here seen an original copy that has the comic knowledge to identify the figures.

BIZARRE!

secretwarrior
09/15/2003, 02:35
ohhhh i see it now...it is mysterio



his bodies missing because he's half in a cloud of smoke.

the "leg of the rhino" is just smoke wisping away.

wow now i can sleep

Genin
09/15/2003, 02:50
Originally posted by boneyard
Middle Left: Possibly Warlock (http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/newmutants/warlock.html)

A guy can hope ;P

Beastchylde
09/15/2003, 05:40
OK so that is definitely a Venom. WOW that is cool. I don't even care that he is doing a crane kick.

BUT OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO FREAK OUT IF THEY MAKE A NEW CYCLOPS.

I know most of you say that the Cyclops we have is pretty good and I agree. However he is my all time favorite Marvel character and I think they could do him better. So heres hoping.

Tautology
09/15/2003, 06:47
Definitely Mysterio.

StellarX
09/15/2003, 10:14
Speculation Frenzy!

First of all - thanks for the post/images - most appreciated.


Nice to have confirmation in writing and pictures of Venom, Mar-vell, Surfer, Brood, et al.

As to the UCOs (Unidentified Clixing Objects) on the box, and these opinions were reached before reading anyone else's suggestions:

Top left: Initial thought was DORMAMMU straight off but further inspection suggests a lack of flames around the head, so the obvious other candidate for that colour scheme is BARON ZEMO. Living Laser (original) and Shocker have costumes that could fit the bill style-wise but the colour scheme seems wrong. Ditto for Thanos who would also have to have lost a few hundred pounds of cosmic flab.

Top right: Initial thought was RHINO as a) it looks grey (sorry, gray for those of youacross the pond), looks as if it is in a fearsome charging pose, there's a hint of a horn (oo-er missus) and the figure (in relation to its base) looks a large/bulky character. The arguments for MYSTERIO are
sound, however to me the colour/size isn't quite right but more importantly we always tend see MYSTERIO in a stood-still enigmatic pose rather than getting involved in a slugfest if he can help it. Having said that. I hope MYSTERIO's in the set but designed more in line with his comic image.

Middle left: Tough one. Thought long and hard about this. Predominantly GREEN characters. LOKI would be nice but I'd expect more trademark yellow in the costume. DIABLO would be nice but ditto for purple. The immediate all-green types who spring to mind are TITANIUM MAN (fig surely too small) and - where my money is (tentatively) MAXIMUS THE MAD.
Go on - have a good laugh at my expense...

Whatever - it's already shaping up for a must-have set and I can't wait for more glimpses-to-come.

Bob
09/15/2003, 10:39
Oh man! Now that I've seen the Venom fig, I want it more than ever!

Corwin
09/15/2003, 10:46
Originally posted by Marty Mcfly
I'm all for Mysterio, Kraven, Hydro-Man, Electro, Chameleon, Shocker, and Scorpion clix

Scorps, we have, but I agree with the rest. I'm liking the Surfer tho his board is a bit small ... Shaping up to be another awesome set.

corwin

bullseye100
09/15/2003, 10:54
coolness

Fannos
09/15/2003, 11:43
Top left looks like it could be that guy from the Jack Kirby Eternals mini-series, I think his name was Ikarus or somethin'
GOTTA GET ME THIS SET:laugh:

nedleeds
09/15/2003, 12:51
Originally posted by msdiener
Who is that in the upper left?

Baron Zemo ... muhahahahahaahhahah !!!

logan_xavier
09/15/2003, 12:58
Gimme... Gimme... NOW! :cheeky:

skeevo666
09/15/2003, 12:58
Originally posted by StellarX
UCOs (Unidentified Clixing Objects)


Thank you for a great laugh to start my day!





P.S. although "clixing" as a verb sounds slightly vulgar . . .

DeadDale
09/15/2003, 13:04
Not to be disagreeable with everyone, but I think that top left one looks like the High Evolutionary.

NotOppressed
09/15/2003, 13:16
Originally posted by Fannos
Top left looks like it could be that guy from the Jack Kirby Eternals mini-series, I think his name was Ikarus or somethin'
GOTTA GET ME THIS SET:laugh:

Ikarus would be a flier.

Meepo
09/15/2003, 13:29
I think it looks like Mr. Belvedere.

Kaitouace
09/15/2003, 13:32
Not fat enough for him. Maybe Mr. French. Of course the thin one, not the fat one.

IronManFan
09/15/2003, 13:49
I think I've read all 200+ posts here and I was going to keep my mouth shut but I might as well weigh in here. It seems no one is disagreeing that the box shows Captain Mar-vell. The only question is whether it is the Genis-vell Captain Marvel or the Mar-Vell Captain Marvel. It looks to me like Mar-vell but only time will tell.

The one that everyone says is Loki I can't make out for the life of me. No matter how hard I try I just can't make heads or tails of it.

The bottom left is either Spidey or Venom and quite frankly, I don't care which it is. We know they are both in the set so bring it on. The only point of contention should be that if it is Venom and he is an R/E/V then it still leaves room for Spidey to be a unique.

The top right looks like Rhino but I have to agree with a lot of the other people on this board that it is Mysterio.

As for the top left, the one that people variously think is Thanos, Carnage, etc. When I first looked at the pic before I read any of these posts I thought it was the Living Laser. I'm still pretty sure that it is him. The colors look right to me and the pose and the horns etc.

Well that's my two cents. Nothing really new to say but I had a couple of minutes. I can't wait for this set already.

Frank

Meepo
09/15/2003, 13:53
"Streaks on the china, never mattered before...who cares?"

Gorodish
09/15/2003, 13:58
Opinions are like *ssh*l*s, everyone got one. here's mine.

the 5 figures on the side of the box (forget about the one being turned at the bottom, not enough detail)

1) Arms outstretched at the top. I'm curently thinking Zemo but only 5% sure.

2) 'Charging' at top right. Mysterio. 75% sure

3) Middle left. Diablo 60% sure

4) Middle Right : Mar-Vell, 95% sure

5) Bottom: Spiderman 99% sure

SpinnerLover
09/15/2003, 14:00
Bottom is definetly the same Spider-man...just turned alittle to the side.
I would like to think the middle one (above Spider-man) is a Brood (would tie-in the "Cosmic/Critical Mass" thing).

MagusMike
09/15/2003, 14:42
WOOOHOOO VENOM!!!:p :p

DaLuvster89
09/15/2003, 15:02
I think that the "Mysterio" could actually be Cloak from Cloak and Dagger. Just another option to throw out there - I don't think Mysterio's cape is all that raggedy looking, although the dome is very convincing....

But anyway, man I'm pumped for this set!

alstaire
09/15/2003, 15:15
Hey, I got a guess too.

The top right fig looks like jack of hearts. Top left looks like a kree soldier. Loki and Captain Marvel the next line and spidey at the bottom.

alstaire

jhknight
09/15/2003, 15:19
Boneyard had Mephisto on the rumored list once. Could the upper left figure be Mephisto?

NotOppressed
09/15/2003, 15:19
Who would have that a blurry image would send all the Mysterio junkies frothing mad?

Who would have thought there were Mysterio junkies?

Always considered Mysterio to be the lamest villain with the lamest costume.

After staring at the blurry Rhino/Mysterio image, I finally could see how the loyal Mysterio masses see their lords image in the inkblot.

My thought now...

"It's a schooner!"

DS-00-0, FSD
09/15/2003, 16:18
I dunno. Looks like a new "Thug" to me. ;)

skeevo666
09/15/2003, 16:59
Originally posted by NotOppressed
My thought now...

"It's a schooner!"


You dumb #######, it's a SAILBOAT!!!

The Avengers
09/15/2003, 17:48
It's Mysterio. Bow to my lord. He will destroy you with his holo-cubes and master of the ways of the theatrical special effects.
Mwahahahahaha

capsshield
09/15/2003, 17:50
Ive looked at the pic with some fractal software and photoshop, top left is thanos, top right is rhino, below thanos is very tough to see, but we think it could be manthing. next is cap mar-vel and spiderman bottom fig could be ironfist but wouldnt bet on that one. we took the old thanos from inf. chal. and looked at the photo and old figure and it look like a very good match posibly his one fist has a glove.

The Ridge
09/15/2003, 18:00
You dumb #######, it's a SAILBOAT!!!

A scooner is a sailboat, Stupid Head!

cisum
09/15/2003, 18:11
I can't see the images. Can someone download them and post them somewhere else so i can see them? Pleze!

predator322
09/15/2003, 18:19
hey the comic store by me got this flyer in a few days ago and he says that the top right is a brood (a marvel version of aliens):cool:

Jason Blood
09/15/2003, 18:19
actually he looks alot like wonderman

Jason Blood
09/15/2003, 18:21
I can somewhat see a W

Brianetz1
09/15/2003, 18:23
DaLuvster89,

I like the Cloak call on that one....it would be a perfect fit for that blob of black....

Masada
09/15/2003, 18:48
THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER THANOS MADE.


OK?

Pfr_Fate
09/15/2003, 18:51
Here's a thought to the mysterious Rhino figure - Gorgon from the Inhumans, kicking with that cloven hoof.

cisum
09/15/2003, 18:52
Cananyone post this poster somewhere? I can't view it on hcrealms.

Litz
09/15/2003, 20:14
Originally posted by mark6574
The block doesn't mean different powers, it's just a nice action pose. Did you want the same pose for every Spiderman that ever got made? A little variety is nice.

Anyone else find this comment self defeating?

Drashia
09/15/2003, 20:27
cisum - if you look long enough into the blankness an image will appear

skeevo666
09/15/2003, 20:31
Originally posted by The Ridge
A scooner is a sailboat, Stupid Head!


Y'know what? THERE IS NO MYSTERIO!!!!! Over there on the booster? That's just a guy in suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Firebrand32
09/15/2003, 21:04
THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER THANOS MADE.


OK?

Hope you're right for your sake, Masada. Otherwise you look mighty uninformed for stating your personal opinion as a fact rather than just that, an opinion.

jhfrail
09/15/2003, 21:05
Originally posted by skeevo666
Y'know what? THERE IS NO MYSTERIO!!!!! Over there on the booster? That's just a guy in suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Well played.

What I can't figure out is why anyone thinks it's Rhino. All the Rhino arguments amount to "Clearly it's Rhino. I blew it up 10^6 times in Better Than Your Photoshop. It's gray." No pictures, no diagrams. Pro Mysterio arguments isolate the piece, blow it up and re-post it for everyone to see. They (Retardog) post diagrams pointing out just what parts appear to be what on his costume. I'm sorry, but I don't see a horn Someone, for the love of god, point out this "horn." Further, the mold is way too thin to be Rhino. And the coloring? IT'S A BAD, PIXELATED SCAN! The coloring on the original is too dark to make out.

And that bottom piece? SPIDER-MAN! IT'S SPIDER-MAN FOR CHRISSAKE! It's the exact same pose, only at a different angle....and just like Mysterio, THE COLORING ON THE ORIGINAL IS JUST DARK!

Blaze890
09/15/2003, 22:50
I can't see it either :cry:

I Am The Game
09/15/2003, 22:58
Guys, wait until you get the flyer. The RHINO fig has his fist up behind him. There are two little white horns, and a scrunched up face underneath 'em. Yeah, it looks too thin, but the image is distorted.

The Spidey on the side of the box is indeed a Veteran. That means Venom will be the Unique. Argh, another Nightcrawler.

I highly suspect the face with the horns pushing against the left side of the box is Daredevil, not Belasco.

NotOppressed
09/15/2003, 23:41
I never said it was Belasco.

I was countering the "only Daredevil has horns" argument.

Retardog
09/16/2003, 00:59
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~shuler4/stuff/newmysterio.gif

*sigh* It's not Rhino, people. You see that thing on his head? Yeah, it's chrome, like a ball bearing. Go dig one out, and you'll see that light reflects off of it the same way. The pose looks like he's standing there with one arm raised. The "leg" is his cape, as jhfrail pointed out, and it swirls around him. But, what the hell do I know? I don't have an uberfractal photo enhancement program like they do in the movies.