DC HeroClix Unleashed

[Draddog]

<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="/images/Unleashed.jpg" WIDTH="300"><BR><FONT SIZE=3><B>DC™ HeroClix™ <I>Unleashed</I> Booster Box</B></FONT><BR>Product Information<P><B>Stock Number:</B> WZK4203<BR><B>Title:</B> DC HeroClix <I>Unleashed</I> Booster Box<BR><B>MSRP:</B> $6.99<BR><B>Expected Release:</B> March 2004<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="/images/UnleashedSig5.jpg"><P>The second <B>DC HeroClix</B> expansion, <I>Unleashed</I>, brings the power of the past, present, and future together in one mighty set! Long-awaited villains like Two-Face match wits with Supergirl and the heroes of yore, while the most popular figures return from the pages of <I>Kingdom Come</I>, ready to battle to the bitter end. The JLA and Titans match wits with Batman Enemies and the Injustice League. Two new team abilities and four new powers await players in this 97-figure set, and a special oversized unique figure, the mighty Bat Sentry, lurks in random booster boxes.<P>Be sure to catch the action at the <B>DC HeroClix</B> <I>Unleashed</I> Marquee event on the weekend of <B>April 23-25th</B>. Prizes for this amazing event include limited editions of Green Lantern and Supergirl. Retailer sign-up runs from February 18th to March 8th. Be sure to sign up early!<P><B>Contents</B><UL><LI>4 randomly inserted DC HeroClix <I>Unleashed</I> miniatures.<LI>4 ID stickers</UL>

[sniksder]

hmmmmmmmm


Makes me rethink things........

[Braden]

Wow. That thing is huge.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Braden
Wow. That thing is huge.
That's what she said.

Holy poop on a stick...

[Silver Ghost]

Wow...those figures look amazing!
(again, DC shows that they seem to be pickier about good sculpts)

Gotta say Superman looks very cool!
...and those bat-sentrys....very...um...big....

[shin-goji]

Ok...new powers can just mean stuff that has only been in Marvelclix. New team abilities? Interesting.

As far as the bat armor goes, big whoop. I don't read Kingdom Come either, so those figures won't really appeal to me. It's too much to expect an Anime Teen Titans set in this expansion. For DC fans this should flesh out the DC roster nicely.

[Scavenger4]

must have... bat sentry

[CarlosMucha]

OHHHHH MYYYYYY GOOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!!

[shin-goji]

Hey look, Sinestro finally has another playmate...

[sniksder]

With the Bat Sentrys being a Unique, means you will be able to only have one on your team at a time, would have been nice to be able to build a team around mulitple ones......

[Billy Jack]

Supes kingdom Come Supes. Finallllly/ Sweet.

[grendelboy]

Does it look to anyone else like Supes' point total is 245!? Holy Lord.

[Thalstrak]

Holy Snot! Those look awesome. Marvel take note your quality standards suck.

[ILIKESTORIES]

grendleboy, I thought the exact same thing. 245, YIKES!
Also, if people are positive you can pick out the CM boosters that teh Smart Hulk, how easy will it be to pick out those boosters? Also, is it just me, or does it look like the knees bend?-Joel

[CarlosMucha]

then Bat centry is Non or Unique???

[Darth Sabre]

YES! Can't wait. Must Have a Case! :)

Got the call from my distributor yesterday. Expected release date.......March 15th!

Finally, we get Cyborg and Hal Jordan!

Plus we should get the best version of Superman yet........................... :knockedou

Aye DIOS MIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOO! :eek:

[JohnShaft31]

those do look awesome. The supes is a keeper. Oh well, there goes another paycheck down the drain.

[Iron Angel]

Crikey! And we have confirmation of the 97 fig set now.

[Makaveli]

Holy mother of ...., wow, CM what? this set looks shweet... now I gotta go make me some money so I can get a case... shyte those sculpts are kool

[NotOppressed]

That Bat Sentry is Wizkid's gift to every pack shaker and feeler out there.

Thank you Wizkids for allowing me to peek with my fingers with your approval.

[Ando]

*drool* The Bat Sentry looks like a Transformer! SWEET!

[DS-00-0, FSD]

"Bat Sentry- Transform and roll out!!"


This set looks very, very nice. I beleieve I'll make a house rule that you can play more than one Bat Sentry at a time.

On a side note, this bodes well for all those big characters from comics. Giant Man, Goliath... I have a feeling we'll see them all thanks to this ground-breaking figure.

[Billy Jack]

Note to self acquire KC Supes quickly. Don't let it become another nightcrawler.

[fogstra]

That is a monster.

March 2003 Batinator comes online...

"In a panic, dhay tried to pulled da plug."

[DeltaPi1049]

Quite interesting. Who is that winged thing next to Bats? Im not well versed in the ways of Kindgom come.

The bat sentry thing although a good idea is pretty dumb looking. Superman has a good looking sculpt... Im impressed. I will definately be interested to find out who his arch enemy is (note the red base).

Its gonna be fun, im just surprised that it out so early! The set isnt released for a good four or five months!

[raging_madboy]

Just out of curiousisty what does the sentry do? Is he controlled by bats? Hunt Bats? Or What?

[Iron Angel]

The winged thing is Wonder Woman.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Thalstrak
Holy Snot! Those look awesome. Marvel take note your quality standards suck.

A preview of 6 figures does not a set make. These could be the only good sculpts in the set. So there.

[The Werle]

I'm mostly impressed with the sculpts on the Kingdom Come figures. I mean, these are the detailed show pictures, but still, those sculpts are amazing.

Ok, quick check, will those who were wise enough to know that the Bat Sentry would be Unique please raise their hands?
(Werle raises hand)
Will those who thought they would be nons raise their hands?
Ok, everyone who just raised their hands is a LOSER!

[Darth Sabre]

Yes Superman is 245 points!

Also Carlos, the Bat-Sentry is a Unique.

Superman looks to be AE with either Luthor or Magog..my guess is Magog.

Batman, and Wonder Woman look cool as hell.


You hear that...that was the sound of every DC hater's heart breaking......Superman 245 points of kicking your ###! :laugh:

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by DS-00-0, FSD
"Bat Sentry- Transform and roll out!!"
This set looks very, very nice. I beleieve I'll make a house rule that you can play more than one Bat Sentry at a time.


That house rule is all well and good, but it will be a moot point. If you could, how many people will be able to play with multiple Spirals? i think their rarity will censor that pretty quick.

[Zappafrank]

How the HELL will that Bat Sentry fit in a booster?!

What will they do, forsake the fourth Clix to make room for that monstrosity?

-Ben

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by raging_madboy
Just out of curiousisty what does the sentry do? Is he controlled by bats? Hunt Bats? Or What?

They're robots controlled by Batman, who has gotten too old to effectively patrol Gotham.

[batfink]

Sign me up for a case NOW! Supes AE has to be Capt. Marvel,who hopefully will also be 245pts. BooYah!

[doc_holleday]

In Kingdome Come Batman is too old to control the streets himself anymore. So he build some robot-thingies to do the dirty work.

Bats even needs some sort of mechanical/electronical exoskeleton to move at all.

But you should really go out and read it for yourself!
KC is really awesome. And i don't even like most of the DC stuff...



holle

[BrotherMagneto]

Originally posted by Darth Sabre
Yes Superman is 245 points!

Also Carlos, the Bat-Sentry is a Unique.

Superman looks to be AE with either Luthor or Magog..my guess is Magog.

Batman, and Wonder Woman look cool as hell.


You hear that...that was the sound of every DC hater's heart breaking......Superman 245 points of kicking your ###! :laugh:

Nope, Supes is more than 245 points.

[FoxInStocks]

HOLY ####!!!!!!!!!!

My pants! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Darth Sabre
You hear that...that was the sound of every DC hater's heart breaking......Superman 245 points of kicking your ###! :laugh:
Really? All I hear is the sound of an under 40 point Black Panther hiding in bushes. No wait, that's an under 45 point Kabuki who just rolled 6's two rounds in a row for BCF and Supes failing his Imp roll.

[raging_madboy]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Nope, Supes is more than 245 points.

Dont tease us, thats cruel. We are so hooked. Just how much is he?

i'll give you the pony i owe to theYeti if you tell us.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Nope, Supes is more than 245 points.

###! #### my ######ing #####, ###!

(Don't worry, webmaster, I did the censoring myself!)

[superfriend]

I may have to order my first case...

AquaOrange posted a list of this set back in November on the DC boards. It's been taken down. Twice. It's been copied to the Rumor board here at least twice. But thinking it was a 96 piece set, he lists the Bat Sentry robot in the generics section. Our pal Boneyard ahs confirmed about half of the set at this point.

We have more work to do to uncover who is in this set.

Awesome indeed!

[doc_holleday]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Ok...new powers can just mean stuff that has only been in Marvelclix. New team abilities? Interesting.


If Boneyard's rumor thread is correct then this will be 4 totally new superpowers....


holle

[grendelboy]

Shut up Shin. Who pissed in your cereal (again) today. For a guy who's so well loved around here you sure do a lot of whining.

[NotOppressed]

Originally posted by shin-goji
A preview of 6 figures does not a set make. These could be the only good sculpts in the set. So there.

This isn't a Marvel set. This is DC. ;)

[Braden]

Am I the only one thinking, "man those figures look cool, but Kingdom Come wasn't that good, the characters were under developed and it seemed to sell only on its art"

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by grendelboy
Shut up Shin. Who pissed in your cereal (again) today. For a guy who's so well loved around here you sure do a lot of whining.
Show me one place where I have whined in this thread. Do a spellcheck too.
I don't do a lot of whining.
I do a lot of winning.

[Darth Sabre]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Nope, Supes is more than 245 points.

OMG :eek:

It sure looks like 245 from here!


Shin> I'm willing to bet Superman gets the Upperhand most of the time, in those matches.

I'm also willing to bet that he has some type of move power and attck power, that would wipe those types of figures out relatively quickly. If he has Superman TA..bye bye...

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by Braden
Am I the only one thinking, "man those figures look cool, but Kingdom Come wasn't that good, the characters were under developed and it seemed to sell only on its art"

I have yet to read it (it's on my Xmas list), but this is the first negative I've heard about the book so far. From other reviews I've read it ranks with Watchmen as one of the best comic stories to date.

[grendelboy]

Yow. I've been zinged by the best since Howlin' Mad. Seriously why all the griping?

[The Clixster]

I like the new Batman sculpt....and Two-Face will be interesting to see what his dial ends up being.....

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Darth Sabre
OMG :eek:
Shin> I'm willing to bet Superman gets the Upperhand most of the time, in those matches.
I'm also willing to bet that he has some type of move power and attck power, that would wipe those types of figures out relatively quickly. If he has Superman TA..bye bye...
Too true, but he's going to need range to get to them, and Kabuki's super senses have been very favorable to me as of late.
We'll see, should be exciting for me for a few figures.

[CarlosMucha]

BrotherMagneto please tell Wizkids I will buy 3 caes,and I Know other people here will buy some boosters too ;)

[Darth Sabre]

Originally posted by Braden
Am I the only one thinking, "man those figures look cool, but Kingdom Come wasn't that good, the characters were under developed and it seemed to sell only on its art"

I thought it was a good story alebit rushed. We were given a taste of the charcters' powers, but not shown to what extent. The only two who were truly hinted at were Superman and Captain Marvel.

FoxinStocks> I hope all you need is some thread, and not a bath! :laugh:

[Mayberry Bat]

Holy mother of pearl. Wow! I don't know what else to say.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by grendelboy
Yow. I've been zinged by the best since Howlin' Mad. Seriously why all the griping?
I'm not griping. Im just not excited about the set. I have a very detached opinion about DC. Not many figures or characters I like. I'm more pointing out a few sobering realities when soemone starts howling that the DC haters will bow down and suck their toes.

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Originally posted by shin-goji
That house rule is all well and good, but it will be a moot point. If you could, how many people will be able to play with multiple Spirals? i think their rarity will censor that pretty quick.

Well, if I were to pull two, I'd definately not trade one away. That's the main issue with Us, most people trade away the extras. This one may be different in the fact that even though it is a unique, for the comic-oriented team builder, it's a Generic and therefore reasonable to play multiples.

Plus there are several completists in my area, so there's always the fact that you can borrow someone elses.

[Darth Sabre]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Too true, but he's going to need range to get to them, and Kabuki's super senses have been very favorable to me as of late.
We'll see, should be exciting for me for a few figures.

Yeah, I meant to mention range...that coupled with the Superman TA would not be good for Kabuki or BP.

Another posiibility is that he has the JLA TA..in KC, he reformed the JLA, with Wonder Woman.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by CarlosMucha
BrotherMagneto please tell Wizkids I will buy 3 caes,and I Know other people here will buy some boosters too ;)
The Marquee should be interesting. But that Supes has a chance of being played in a 300 point game like Amazo does in a 200 Point Marvel only tourney. I wonder what medics will be available.

[Braden]

Originally posted by Iron Angel
I have yet to read it (it's on my Xmas list), but this is the first negative I've heard about the book so far. From other reviews I've read it ranks with Watchmen as one of the best comic stories to date.

The art is impeccable, but the story is lacking.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by DS-00-0, FSD
Well, if I were to pull two, I'd definately not trade one away. That's the main issue with Us, most people trade away the extras. This one may be different in the fact that even though it is a unique, for the comic-oriented team builder, it's a Generic and therefore reasonable to play multiples.

Plus there are several completists in my area, so there's always the fact that you can borrow someone elses.
True. At our last tourney out of 8 people 5 pulled uniques. It would be hard to make an army of Bat Sentries like it would an army of U Electras. Wait, bad example...:)

[The Charlatan]

I'll assume that KC Superman's AE is Magog, and not XP Sdider-Man and Green Goblin, as its color suggests. AE dial colors always look wrong on these previews anyway...

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I'm not griping. Im just not excited about the set. I have a very detached opinion about DC. Not many figures or characters I like. I'm more pointing out a few sobering realities when soemone starts howling that the DC haters will bow down and suck their toes.

Shin...I love ya man, you've done a lot of good around here...

But...

We really don't need you on this thread if all you're here to do is provide 'reality checks' for the DC fans.

You got to be excited for CM, let us be excited for Unleashed.

Thanks man. Much respect for you. :)

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by Darth Sabre
Yeah, I meant to mention range...that coupled with the Superman TA would not be good for Kabuki or BP.

Another posiibility is that he has the JLA TA..in KC, he reformed the JLA, with Wonder Woman.

One of the rumored new TA's is a Kingdom Come team. If that does turn out to be true, then it's a safe bet he'll have that.

[CarlosMucha]

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Originally posted by Braden
Am I the only one thinking, "man those figures look cool, but Kingdom Come wasn't that good, the characters were under developed and it seemed to sell only on its art"
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BRADEN: YOU ARE MAGOD!!!!! serios, only I can think you are a comic collector who like characterers like Punisher or Spawn nothing more. Really how you can dont like KC??

[doc_holleday]

It's more likely Supes gets the rumored KC TA.

Which as rumor goes works like the opposite of break away roll, i.e. you have to roll 4-6 to be allowed to move in to b2b with said figure.



holle

[LoneWolf21]

They look nice I admit, but so far, character-wise, I'm actually not too interested in the set as of yet. Ah well, here's hoping something perks my interest.

[theSHOWDOWN]

Originally posted by grendelboy
Does it look to anyone else like Supes' point total is 245!? Holy Lord.

Looks more like 249 to me.

Well...This is why I read DC comics; when the characters look that good, it's almost impossible to pass on a title or two here and there (now I'm up to 14 DC and 21 Marvel).

Preview totally blows Marvel out of the water. Now we know why Critical Mass sucked so badly; it was because all the decent painter children got pulled out of the Marvel factory and put in the DC one (which, judging by the figs, is probably air conditioned and the kids get to work 10 hour days instead of 14).

Batman = incredible

Wonder Woman = incredible

Superman = I just soiled myself; DC definitely heard the backlash from the players over the Hypertime version. AE base mean that he could possibly have a new Doomsday AE? I'm not familiar enough with Kingdom Come to know if he had an AE in that story. Anyone know?

Bat Sentry = Not exactly sure how they'll pull that off, but whatever. Like it won't be heavier or something? I think they'll be pretty easy to feel in a booster.

Hal Jordan = incredible.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by The Charlatan
I'll assume that KC Superman's AE is Magog, and not XP Sdider-Man and Green Goblin, as its color suggests. AE dial colors always look wrong on these previews anyway...

Don't forget, our previews of Wonder Woman in CJ showed her with a green AE base.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by The Charlatan
I'll assume that KC Superman's AE is Magog, and not XP Sdider-Man and Green Goblin, as its color suggests. AE dial colors always look wrong on these previews anyway...

Since AE's are set-specific, I doubt Spidey has to worry too much about ticking off Superman.

[theSHOWDOWN]

Originally posted by The Charlatan
I'll assume that KC Superman's AE is Magog, and not XP Sdider-Man and Green Goblin, as its color suggests. AE dial colors always look wrong on these previews anyway...

They FAQed away that problem by saying that they characters had to have matching colors AND be from the same set AND different names.

[TheRavenHQ]

Originally posted by Zappafrank
How the HELL will that Bat Sentry fit in a booster?!

What will they do, forsake the fourth Clix to make room for that monstrosity?

-Ben

I don't know if it is painted on or what but anyone notice that the Bat Sentries knees might be jointed? ...ehh... probably not.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by Iron Angel
Since AE's are set-specific, I doubt Spidey has to worry too much about ticking off Superman.

Lucky for Spidey! :p

[chi_madnes]

I almost want to collect DC now :cry:

[Darth Sabre]

It does look like he has 10 range, at least to me, with one target.

[shin-goji]

Again, if you're excited about the paints and sculpts, I'm happy for ya. But the majority of these ae Uniques and they do put their best work into the Uniques, so hold final judgement until we see the first DC Unleashed female doing her Psylocke imitation.
I would have to bet money on a Kingdom Come TA as well.

[batfink]

If the sculpts are based specifically on thr artwork of Alec Ross, will Alec Ross get royaltiesw from it? Just curious.

BTW, I'm already lovoing Supes. Man, he looks pissed.

[Spidersense]

I love comics and heroes/heroines. And I am so glad that there is a game that lets me put teams together with little and sometimes big figures in front of me and lets me duke it out with my other comic-loving (and Kree-hating) friends.

I like Marvel

I like DC

This set will fill in some blanks in my comic-knowing world VERY nicely...that is all.

[hair10]

Critical what?

:)

[Iron Angel]

Well said, Spidersense. Very well said indeed.

[X-avenger]

hmmmm.

totally new powers and team abilities on only their 2nd expansion.

marvel is working on their 4th.

someone who knows the workings of wizkids tell me, did they plan all the marvel figs way before they planned DC? i'm just saying, since marvel couldn't even come up with a "Cosmic" team ability for critical mass. they just seem... static and stale now.

[thugit]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I NEED A TIME MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!

MUST HAVE SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!

[4est]

His archenemies in KC were either Shazam or Magog. Or heck even himself (if you want to go into the whole he went in to hiding thing) Im not crazy about the Bat-Sentries being unique. I would have rather seen them be packaged with 3 or 4 bat-sentries and retired Oliver Queen, Ted Kord, Dinah Lance and Bruce in the neck support brace thing.

KC was a decent enough story but the art really is the major selling point of the book.

Im most excited to hear about more Titans that will hopefully be better pieces than Changeling and Troia to round out a Titans theme team.

Also a note on the AE bases it goes by set and base color. Its in the rules now so they can reuse base colors if they need to.

[dougmac]

New tournament-legal dials for my Marvel mods!

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Spidersense
I love comics and heroes/heroines. And I am so glad that there is a game that lets me put teams together with little and sometimes big figures in front of me and lets me duke it out with my other comic-loving (and Kree-hating) friends.

I like Marvel

I like DC

This set will fill in some blanks in my comic-knowing world VERY nicely...that is all.

You're just mad because you bow down before the awesome might of the Skrulls.

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Again, if you're excited about the paints and sculpts, I'm happy for ya. But the majority of these ae Uniques and they do put their best work into the Uniques,

Yeah, like my Sersi that looks like a crack #####. Her lipstick is all over her face!! ;)

[doc_holleday]

IMO the inclusion of 4 new powers and 2 new TAs in the SECOND DC expansion combined with the lack of quality control for Critical Mass this has been really a slap in the face for all Marvel fans. And i'm one of them.
Ouch....



holle

[Straining]

WOWEE WOW WOW

[EmperorNorton]

And off goes the POWERBOMB!

I'll trade one of my kidneys for a bunch of Bat bots...

EmperorNorton :squareeye

[SPLITSECOND]

Well, KC Superman is a must have. KC Wonder Woman is an almost must have. Just when I think it can't get any better in the Clix Kingdom they go and top themselves with each new set. I'm excited about and dreading this set at the same time. Excited about the figures and dreading having to go to the ends of the earth and back again to get them. The pressure is on again, folks.

[Braden]

Originally posted by CarlosMucha
quote:


BRADEN: YOU ARE MAGOD!!!!! serios, only I can think you are a comic collector who like characterers like Punisher or Spawn nothing more. Really how you can dont like KC??

Perhaps it was the fact the series had 4753834 characters and no depth on anyone of them, except maybe Superman.

[shin-goji]

I don't feel slapped at all by the new powers and TA's. Marvel will get their turn eventually. I still enjoy Marvelclix over DCclix 90% of the time.
e Kabuki ownz v Ulik though.

[Thalstrak]

Well even the ####piest of my DC figures (sculpt as well as paint job) look better than most of my well painted and sculpted Marvel figures. I'm more of a Marvel fan than a DC fan to boot. Just wish Marvel would take a little more pride in the presentation of their characters.

[Superfro]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Again, if you're excited about the paints and sculpts, I'm happy for ya. But the majority of these ae Uniques and they do put their best work into the Uniques, so hold final judgement until we see the first DC Unleashed female doing her Psylocke imitation.
I would have to bet money on a Kingdom Come TA as well.

Ugh...the only disappointing part of new release info and previews, pointless posts by Shin of either a fanboy zombie nature (read MARVEL) or discouraging comments about how unexciting any of it is (read DC and INDY). Get a new formula already. :rolleyes:

About the set, while I'm not the biggest DC fan, I think ANY new figures are good news and these look outstanding! Good chances of having a stacked Unique list, much like CM. And that's good for everybody who get's them! :) Can't wait for my case!

[GammaBomb]

All I have to say is... in mixed games.... Batbots and Doombots :devious:

[vaders sabre]

WOW these figs are great. I just read KC and I thouhgt it was great and WW looks like 198 points of pure butt kicking.Has does this Superman. NOw if they just make a new THOR. I cant wait Im getting two case's

[GammaBomb]

...err, nevermind, just realized its a unique. :ermm:

[vergaiden]

Originally posted by GammaBomb
All I have to say is... in mixed games.... Batbots and Doombots :devious:

Better yet....

Bat Bots and Sentinels! (Doombots high class cousins)

-JTP

[bizzaro]

Originally posted by Braden
Am I the only one thinking, "man those figures look cool, but Kingdom Come wasn't that good, the characters were under developed and it seemed to sell only on its art"

Yes you certainly are. Kingdom Come not only had amazing art but also was an amazing story, showing how the DC icons of old fit into a new super-powered society that consisted mainly of IMAGE-esque vigilante superheroes ... and what happens when the icons come out of retirement because they decide the world needs order ... their order. Great story that I would put along the likes of Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen.

I'm guessing that Magog is Superman's AE.

[vaders sabre]

Also I hope Supergirl has Superman team. We need more of this team.

[CaptainMarvel]

It might just be me but that point total on supes looks like a 7.....745 nah that can't be. At least I hope not.

As for WW if you look close the first number in her point total looks to be the same as the middle number in supes point total.....What the hell is going on here?

[doc_holleday]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I don't feel slapped at all by the new powers and TA's. Marvel will get their turn eventually. I still enjoy Marvelclix over DCclix 90% of the time.


Yeah, well me too. But don't you think it would be nice if Marvel would have some more useful TAs? I mean Marvel does not have Batman/Kabuki, 2000AD, Supes Ally and such things. They could have at least given the Kree their own TA and not abuse SHIELD again. They were adding some DC powers anyway. Why no TAs??? Apart from that everywhere you look WK produces decent paint jobs (CJ, Indy, MK2.0). I could have painted 90% of the CM figures blindfolded with similar results.


holle

[Spidersense]

I have to admit I dont understand all the DC/Marvel competition. I grew up watching Superfriends on TV, so my heart started on DC. Then I saw the Spiderman cartoon and I loved that character.

Then I saw Lynda Carter on TV, and well...I surely didnt say "Man, DC sucks!"

I never saw a hero/heroine even in the comics as either DC or Marvel and still dont. If I like a character - great. Who cares if it is Marvel or DC.

I LOVE Spiderman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Justice League, X-Men and multiple others.

The release of a new set is a time for all comic fans to rejoice and get excited.

For those that want to root for DC or Marvel, I still wont understand putting so much passion behind one brand over the other.

I understand people getting passionate about Democrat versus Republican or Religious versus Athiest. This is because people attach so much of their identity to those things.

Is this really something similar?

[bizzaro]

Originally posted by Braden
The art is impeccable, but the story is lacking.

Your the first person I've heard that didn't like it. I'm curious what graphic novels you did like and would recommend?

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
It might just be me but that point total on supes looks like a 7.....745 nah that can't be. At least I hope not.

As for WW if you look close the first number in her point total looks to be the same as the middle number in supes point total.....What the hell is going on here?

You know...that's what it looked like to me as well. That'd have to be some dial! :confused:

[The Clixster]

Is it just me, or odes the Bat Sentry seem to have movable joints? Look at the legs....if they do, then that's how theyre gonna be able to be put into a booster and not be identified that well.....

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by GammaBomb
...err, nevermind, just realized its a unique. :ermm:
No no, it's O.K.! I'll play as many Skrulls as you can afford your Batbot :)

[SpinnerLover]

Is it rumor or truth that KC Shazam will be in this set? If that is the case...he would be a great Arch-Enemy for Superman...their point value will be almost the same.
Great set so far...more of a Marvel fan, but I'm glad we got the Bat-bots (not so sure of it being unique though...unless they make a new ruling).

[Skullfire]

It looks that way to me too. If you look closely it looks like other parts are hinged or movable. This could be a first.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by Spidersense
I have to admit I dont understand all the DC/Marvel competition. I grew up watching Superfriends on TV, so my heart started on DC. Then I saw the Spiderman cartoon and I loved that character.

Then I saw Lynda Carter on TV, and well...I surely didnt say "Man, DC sucks!"

I never saw a hero/heroine even in the comics as either DC or Marvel and still dont. If I like a character - great. Who cares if it is Marvel or DC.

I LOVE Spiderman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Justice League, X-Men and multiple others.

The release of a new set is a time for all comic fans to rejoice and get excited.

For those that want to root for DC or Marvel, I still wont understand putting so much passion behind one brand over the other.

I understand people getting passionate about Democrat versus Republican or Religious versus Athiest. This is because people attach so much of their identity to those things.

Is this really something similar?

Man, you said it. A comic is a comic. It's all a matter of preference in the end. My PREFERENCE is DC, but there's still LOTS of Marvel I like (Avengers, X-Men, Ultimate titles).

[LoneWolf21]

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Yes you certainly are. Kingdom Come not only had amazing art but also was an amazing story, showing how the DC icons of old fit into a new super-powered society that consisted mainly of IMAGE-esque vigilante superheroes ... and what happens when the icons come out of retirement because they decide the world needs order ... their order. Great story that I would put along the likes of Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen.
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I don't know, I've heard several people complain that the book was too blind in it's worship of the Silver Age and too overly critical about everything that wasn't from that era.

[hair10]

Originally posted by SpinnerLover
Is it rumor or truth that KC Shazam will be in this set? If that is the case...he would be a great Arch-Enemy for Superman...their point value will be almost the same.

He's supposed to be a mail-in fig.

[bizzaro]

Originally posted by Braden
The art is impeccable, but the story is lacking.

Your the first person I've heard that didn't like it. I'm curious what graphic novels you did like and would recommend.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by doc_holleday
They could have at least given the Kree their own TA and not abuse SHIELD again.

Dude, it's the KREE! They don't even feel pain like you and me :)

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by FoxInStocks
You know...that's what it looked like to me as well. That'd have to be some dial! :confused:


I can't imagine it would be that high. The only way you could convince me to field a fig that high in points is if one of the new powers prevents a fig from being outwited. From what I can tell WW looks to be 408pts?

This is nuts I guess I'll just have to wait.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by doc_holleday
Yeah, well me too. But don't you think it would be nice if Marvel would have some more useful TAs? I mean Marvel does not have Batman/Kabuki, 2000AD, Supes Ally and such things. They could have at least given the Kree their own TA and not abuse SHIELD again. They were adding some DC powers anyway. Why no TAs??? Apart from that everywhere you look WK produces decent paint jobs (CJ, Indy, MK2.0). I could have painted 90% of the CM figures blindfolded with similar results.


holle

Up until now, each "universe" has had two unique TA's. Marvel had Shield and FF, DC had Superman Ally & Enemy, Indy had 2000 AD and Crusade. I wasn't at all surprised that there were no new Marvel teams introduced in CM. In retrospect, though, with new DC teams being introduced, it couldn't have hurt to give Marvel at least one.

[malger]

Bat Sentry definitly looks poseable.

[Darth Sabre]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
It might just be me but that point total on supes looks like a 7.....745 nah that can't be. At least I hope not.

As for WW if you look close the first number in her point total looks to be the same as the middle number in supes point total.....What the hell is going on here?

While I doubt that they would be that much, I'm sure that they will be expensive. Most of them were far more powerful than they were in normal continuity. Most of them were at peak power level.

A friend of mine and I were having a conversation on how impossible it would be to make a version of Flash from the KC storyline.

All he ver did was patrol the city, never stopping. If they do, his movement would have the potentila to be higher than HT U Flash. Plu he would have WP, because he never stops. GL, and Hawkman would also look really cool, and Captain Marvel, would be a pretty stout figure, probably second to Superman.

[GammaBomb]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Again, if you're excited about the paints and sculpts, I'm happy for ya. But the majority of these ae Uniques and they do put their best work into the Uniques, so hold final judgement until we see the first DC Unleashed female doing her Psylocke imitation.

Eh, I don't think much effort was put into Morgan la Fey. She looks like she had a reverse donkey-punch.

[doc_holleday]

Originally posted by Spidersense

For those that want to root for DC or Marvel, I still wont understand putting so much passion behind one brand over the other.

I understand people getting passionate about Democrat versus Republican or Religious versus Athiest. This is because people attach so much of their identity to those things.

Is this really something similar?

No it' not.
Well i prefer mostly Marvel, but that doesn't mean i hate everything that comes from DC (i like Batman and Flash for example). But for unknown reasons (at least to me) it seems that DC clicks usually get a better job then their Marvel counterparts. It looks a bit like quantity (Marvel) vs. quality (DC), but i'd rather have less, but better produced Marvel clicks too!


holle

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Spidersense
I have to admit I dont understand all the DC/Marvel competition. I grew up watching Superfriends on TV, so my heart started on DC. Then I saw the Spiderman cartoon and I loved that character.
Then I saw Lynda Carter on TV, and well...I surely didnt say "Man, DC sucks!"

Face it, Marvel Zombies will never get along with DC Junkies. They're both addicts, requiring a clique to stay together and feel a sense of belonging. I wouldn't say DC sux, I would just say it's not my thing. Preacher is head and shoulders abve anything Marvel has ever done except the Strazinski 911 Tribute.

[Spidersense]

Originally posted by shin-goji
...except the Strazinski 911 Tribute.

He did make Dr. Doom cry didnt he? I may be wrong about that.

[hair10]

Anybody else notice how similar WW wings look to how Archangel's metal wings should have looked? A little trim here, a little paint there... can anyone else say "mod"? :p

[shin-goji]

Not to be a downer, but these may also be the Master Paint sets, the examples they use for the factory munchkins in China to use as a color pallette. But if they are how they will actually look that will be pretty interesting.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Spidersense
He did make Dr. Doom cry didnt he? I may be wrong about that.
Yeah, but I heard Moss Man's dirty socks make him cry too...

[doc_holleday]

Originally posted by Iron Angel
In retrospect, though, with new DC teams being introduced, it couldn't have hurt to give Marvel at least one.

You say it!



holle

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by hair10
Anybody else notice how similar WW wings look to how Archangel's metal wings should have looked? A little trim here, a little paint there... can anyone else say "mod"? :p

Sure, if you're willing to carve one up.

[DCFan#1]

I know it's been kicked around a bit already, but who doesn't think Supermans AE will be Shazam. It has to be. We already have confirmation of that figure, at least in a mail away format. Magog, at best, would be a marginal figure, and Supes would destroy him. Shazam, on the other hand, would be equally as powerful, and quite a fight to see (and play).

Overall, I am absolutely amazed at how these figures look. March can't get here quick enough!

Rich

[Braden]

Originally posted by bizzaro
Your the first person I've heard that didn't like it. I'm curious what graphic novels you did like and would recommend?

Dark Knight Returns and Elektra: Assassin were significantly better.

[hair10]

Originally posted by Iron Angel
Sure, if you're willing to carve one up.
No prob. It's just a piece of plastic after all. ;)

[EmperorNorton]

Elektra: Assassin made me throw up...

EmperorNorton

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Nope, Supes is more than 245 points.


Can you imgaine how many e-mails this guy has gotten since he posted this:p :laugh:

[shin-goji]

From Brother Mags:
They are four all-new, never-before-seen powers, with new colors on your dial. We'll have an article up about them, and another one about the new team abilities, a little closer to the launch date.
Sorry if this has been posted already.

[Nanostorm]

The Unleashed set looks killer, great sculpts, new TA's and possibly new powers. The Bat-sentry gives me hope that I migth see a Gigant man/Goliath or Atlas in a future Marvel set. Looks like Wizkids and Dc really put their hearts into this. My only worry is; what about marvel?, I was a bit disapointed with CM, great uniques, but a lot of half-hearted sculpts. Do marvel care less? Why do they settle for 176pts (or someting) for the silver surfer when Dc will have a Superman costing 245 pts (that is what it looks like in the picture). Well i think KC is a very good novel both art and storywise, so even if i'm mostly a marvel fan this will be a Dc set that i will invest heavily in.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by hair10
No prob. It's just a piece of plastic after all. ;)

That's not funny. That's not funny at all.

:cool:

[SpinnerLover]

Can you imagine if Shazam (+/- pts. of Superman) were the AE? Whomever won that match...for the most part won the tourney. Double the points...nasty!

[Braden]

Originally posted by EmperorNorton
Elektra: Assassin made me throw up...

EmperorNorton

Try reading it and not eating it.

[thugit]

Dark Knight Returns is quite possibly the most overrated comic of all time.

[shin-goji]

I think Marvel will get new TA's, but will probably just copy powers from DC in their next set.

[CaptainMarvel]

I have to say shin I’m with you. Every time a new set is announced and a pic is given we sit in awe of the figs and their paint jobs.

Then the previews start coming and figs that weren't on the announcement flier start making appearances and we are often disappointed.

I'll wait and see before I go nuts and say these are the best figs ever.

[DCFan#1]

Thugit is quite possibly the most overrated member of all time... ;)

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Braden
Try reading it and not eating it.
I did and my eyes threw up :)

[doc_holleday]

I think Supes AE will be Magog, because Shazam was brainwashed and controlled by Lex Luthor and tricked into doing what he did, whereas Magog is a rather evil bastich...

[DCFan#1]

Did you read the end of Kingdom Come?! That battle between Supes and Shazam was epic!

Rich

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by SpinnerLover
Can you imagine if Shazam (+/- pts. of Superman) were the AE? Whomever won that match...for the most part won the tourney. Double the points...nasty!

At over 245 who in the hell is going to play him in a tourny. Like I said unless one of the new powers prevents him from being outwited there is no way he will see sucessful tourny play.

justanopiniondon'tflameme.

[AlgertMan]

YES YES YES YES

HAL!

[DraXXXen]

Holy. Sweet. Mother. Of. Baby. Cyborg. Jesus!!!!


Finally...Hal Jordan and Bat Sentry (Plus Batman)..whooo!

Time to start saving for another case!

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
At over 245 who in the hell is going to play him in a tourny. Like I said unless one of the new powers prevents him from being outwited there is no way he will see sucessful tourny play.

justanopiniondon'tflameme.
No, no need for flames, that is a VERY valid argument.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
At over 245 who in the hell is going to play him in a tourny. Like I said unless one of the new powers prevents him from being outwited there is no way he will see sucessful tourny play.

justanopiniondon'tflameme.

Successful tourney play? I wouldn't go that far. I've seen stranger things.

But you are right in that you probably won't see him much, if at all, in tourneys. Even if you COULD win with him, it'd be a big, big chance to take.

[Braden]

Originally posted by DCFan#1
Did you read the end of Kingdom Come?! That battle between Supes and Shazam was epic!

Rich

Only for a fan boy. There were better fights in Thor: Vikings (aside from the fact it was Shazaam vs. Supes)

[doc_holleday]

Yeah i read it (although it was some time ago) and from what i remember Supes was rather sad he had to fight Shazam at all. It's not like he hated him or anything. Supes just had to stop him.

holle

[Braden]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
At over 245 who in the hell is going to play him in a tourny. Like I said unless one of the new powers prevents him from being outwited there is no way he will see sucessful tourny play.

justanopiniondon'tflameme.

I hope someone Brazil proofed this thread.

[shin-goji]

I for one will take more pleasure from this set in watching my players at a tourney when their faces light up as they pull a figure they were hoping for.

[CaptainMarvel]

Thanks Shin, and fox that is kind of what I meant to say.

He could and no doubt will see successful tourney play but I mean how often will that be?

I guess the thing I'm trying to say is that he will be huge for rec players and collectors but I can't imagine him having much tourney draw

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I for one will take more pleasure from this set in watching my players at a tourney when their faces light up as they pull a figure they were hoping for.

You're like a Clix Santa Claus. :)

[BronxBomber]

Alright, I believe the Critical Mass set is very good.

I was impressed with CJ but this Unleashed looks good.

Hopefully, there will be some playable figures.

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by Braden
I hope someone Brazil proofed this thread.


No way no time for proof reading.

[hair10]

Originally posted by FoxInStocks
You're like a Clix Santa Claus. :)
Wouldn't that be "Clixa Claus"?

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
Thanks Shin, and fox that is kind of what I meant to say.

He could and no doubt will see successful tourney play but I mean how often will that be?

I guess the thing I'm trying to say is that he will be huge for rec players and collectors but I can't imagine him having much tourney draw

You're probably right. These days, my fav piece is OWAW Superman, but I won't play him on anything less than a 500 point team. I just feel more secure with several lower-costed, solid figs than I do with one realllllly good one. A 245+ fig on a 300 point team would more than likely be suicide.

[mark6574]

Imagine if the Kingdom Come team ability made them "outwit-proof"? That would be cool. Or maybe that new power Grounded means grounded mentally instead of physically and they are able to stay cool and calm and avoid being outwitted.

Anyway, Kingdom Come was a great story line. Perfect example of society today worried about the "look" instead of what is right or wrong. I thought it was a great story and I can't wait to get my hands on those figures. They look sweet. :)

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by hair10
Wouldn't that be "Clixa Claus"?

I think you would be right my Ninja brother.

Shin aka Clixa Claus.:p

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by hair10
Wouldn't that be "Clixa Claus"?

That'd just be silly. :p

[Puuka]

Ok, Bat Sentry is going to take up two slots, thats fine. but how are they going to fit Batmans wings in the box?

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by hair10
Wouldn't that be "Clixa Claus"?

Or maybe it should be Santa Clix. :)

[BYC]

More than 245? Another character that I can't really play except in huge games? I like Superman, but he is so unwieldy. Unless they go nuts on him, he's not gonna be that good. Like, unless he has Hypersonic and Impervious for all 11 clix, and a good AV and DV, he's gonna be another outwit bait. His AE should definitely be Captain Marvel. Luthor was patheic at this point, and Magog didn't really seem to be doing anything other than a tough guy.

Is Hal gonna be named Green Latern? Or something else? I suppose playing multiple GLs is too expensive anyways, but I'd still like to try.

As sweet as the paint jobs go, remember Critical Mass's teaser poster. Hulk, Spider-Man, Venom, Surfer, they looked good too, but most of the others looked like ####, so I'm willing to bet Unleased with be the same.

[DeltaPi1049]

We cant comment on paint jobs yet, this is a preview! Of course they would put the most well painted sculpts on the poster. Come on guys, common sense!

Im going to go with the no play supes in tourneys thing. I mean even if he does 8 clicks of damage, he will be your whole team if he is taken out. Too much of a risk. That is why I feel that DC is not that much fun to play. In order to play your fave characters you need to set aside 150 points for one fig! Look at the SOD supes! He was a beast but he sure was a lighning rod.

So far the set looks as promising as CM did with its preview. If you look there, those sculpts were painted awesomely and look how the set turned out. I thought it was still above my expectations and is now one of may favorite sets.

I am a tried and true Marvel Zombie, but I still play some DC. This set looks good on paper but not in play. My grade is an astounding meh!

[Bloodsword]

Tha Bat Senrty does look like it has joints! And Batman looks awsome. Why do they tease us so far in advance, wizkids knows we are addicted, curse you! CURSE YOU WIZKIDZ!

[CaptainMarvel]

Originally posted by FoxInStocks
You're probably right. These days, my fav piece is OWAW Superman, but I won't play him on anything less than a 500 point team. I just feel more secure with several lower-costed, solid figs than I do with one realllllly good one. A 245+ fig on a 300 point team would more than likely be suicide.


That’s exactly my feeling. 220 maybe but over 245 no thanks.

Hey maybe that’s why Marvel wants to keep their figs low. I mean would you rather use a +245 supes in a 300pt TO or a 173 SS? Maybe Marvel thinks they can take the Tourney scene.

Or maybe I'm just babbling.

But think about it If Marvel figures their figs are better for the tournament scene than they will have more sales. I don't know about you but I would rather buy boosters from a set that will give me the most usable figs. I can always trade to get the ones I want to collect. hmmmm. Just a thought.

[mark6574]

Originally posted by Puuka
Ok, Bat Sentry is going to take up two slots, thats fine. but how are they going to fit Batmans wings in the box?
Do you think they would make a figure that you had to assembly a little first? Maybe Batman's wings come unattached and you have to put them in. Like putting a figure on its flying base. Would Wizkids do that?

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by FoxInStocks
You're like a Clix Santa Claus. :)
I already got my Clix Santa 2.0 and he ROX!

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by Puuka
Ok, Bat Sentry is going to take up two slots, thats fine. but how are they going to fit Batmans wings in the box?

Pack him in sideways, I guess.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by BYC
As sweet as the paint jobs go, remember Critical Mass's teaser poster. Hulk, Spider-Man, Venom, Surfer, they looked good too, but most of the others looked like ####, so I'm willing to bet Unleased with be the same.

I'm willing to bet you're wrong. DC has a good history of top-notch paint jobs, while Marvel's track record is lacking. I'll bet that Unleashed will be fantastic. :cool:

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Iron Angel
Pack him in sideways, I guess.

...so there's someone who works at WK who's resume has him listed as the "Bat Packer."

[SpakSpang]

My bet is Superman is 249 or 248 points. And he looks cool.

Batman has a range of 6 with 2 arrows...so I bet he will be similar to the other Batmans.

This set looks really cool for the Uniques. But that is my problem. DCs Sets always have their best figures as Uniques, and it becomes way too costly to collect. GEEZ.

I want Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Bat Sentry.

You know what is scary though. Superman having an arch-enemy...if someone takes down Superman for double points even in a 1000 point game that game is practically over...and who plays 1000 point games?

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I already got my Clix Santa 2.0 and he ROX!

Holy CARP, Shin! That Sentinel avatar is HYSTERICAL!!!!! :laugh: :laugh:

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by FoxInStocks
Holy CARP, Shin! That Sentinel avatar is HYSTERICAL!!!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Thank you, he's supposed to look surprised, like as if Wolverine got RCE. I was hoping he didn't look too much like a blow up doll.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
That’s exactly my feeling. 220 maybe but over 245 no thanks.

Hey maybe that’s why Marvel wants to keep their figs low. I mean would you rather use a +245 supes in a 300pt TO or a 173 SS? Maybe Marvel thinks they can take the Tourney scene.

Or maybe I'm just babbling.

But think about it If Marvel figures their figs are better for the tournament scene than they will have more sales. I don't know about you but I would rather buy boosters from a set that will give me the most usable figs. I can always trade to get the ones I want to collect. hmmmm. Just a thought.

I guess it depends on what you buy for. Me, I'm a player and a collector. I buy 'till I get full sets. I still need a V Penguin. Not 'cause I'll ever play him, just 'cause I want the collection. :)

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Thank you, he's supposed to look surprised, like as if Wolverine got RCE. I was hoping he didn't look too much like a blow up doll.

Actually, he looks like he either:

A) Got caught coming out of the Sentinel-shower or

B) Got B/C/F in the nuts-n-bolts by Wolvie. ;)

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Could we possibly be seeing the first triple AE set?

IIRC, the mail-in for this set is rumored to be KC Captain Marvel. As such, he could likely be the AE of Superman. However, since WK usually reuses sculpts for mail-in purposes, it's possible we will see a R/E/V in this set as well (without the KC team ability) without an AE base. Because after all, he was never really Supes AE other than in KC.

If this is the case, I really do not see WK making Supes as a regular fig who's only AE is actually not IN the normal set. As such we may see Magog as Supes AE from the base set, while the mail in Cpt Marvel is a third AE adding to the mix.

Opinions??

[Thunderbolts]

HAL F'N JORDAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:) :) :)

[Puuka]

Originally posted by SpakSpang
My bet is Superman is 249 or 248 points. And he looks cool.

Batman has a range of 6 with 2 arrows...so I bet he will be similar to the other Batmans.

This set looks really cool for the Uniques. But that is my problem. DCs Sets always have their best figures as Uniques, and it becomes way too costly to collect. GEEZ.

I want Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Bat Sentry.

You know what is scary though. Superman having an arch-enemy...if someone takes down Superman for double points even in a 1000 point game that game is practically over...and who plays 1000 point games?

Maybe all the KC figures will build a nice little 1000 point team

[The_Spider44]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I don't feel slapped at all


..thats cause yer numb, from all my smackn' you upside the head ! ...& sentinels suck.

[hair10]

Originally posted by Puuka
Ok, Bat Sentry is going to take up two slots, thats fine. but how are they going to fit Batmans wings in the box?
"Some assembly required"

[Darth Sabre]

I'm just not convinced Captain Marvel is Superman's AE.

In the story line, he was under Luthor's control...not acting of his own volition.

He was under Luthor's control.

In the end, he snapped out of it, and gave his life to save the earth.

Also, that the KC storyline went beyond the 4 issuee series. There was also The Kingdom 1 and 2, which were extensionds to that.

I haven't read the other issues...but I know that more about Magog is revealed in those.

[hornhead]

Those look totally awesome!

Hey Wizkids, can Marvel and DC switch sculptors for awhile?

[Ed0825]

I don't suppose the Superman could be 290+ points instead of 240+, a nine could look like a 4 at the right angle. If there was ever going to be a near 300 point figure, other than big figures, this Superman would be the one to have. Under the right circumstances this superman could be playable. The Superman OWAW definately is, especially under the new rules. As far as batman he will probably be sideways. I don't think his wing span would be any greater than Sauron's wings.

These figures do look awsome. Yes these are paint masters, but there is no arguing that the sculpts are as cool as anything also.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by The_Spider44
..thats cause yer numb, from all my smackn' you upside the head ! ...& sentinels suck.
My God, you're still here?

[Puuka]

Originally posted by hornhead
Those look totally awesome!

Hey Wizkids, can Marvel and DC switch sculptors for awhile?

the sculpts are good, it's the paintjobs that suck

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by hair10
"Some assembly required"
...or "Batteries not included. Void in some states."

[K-Ness]

About the Bat Sentry... comparing him with the Dreadnaught piece from CM, the Sentry is only bit taller than him, so I'm sure it won't be a hard piece to fit into a booster. however, he is fodder for the squeezers out there. You people make me sick. Sick, I tell you. (Eats a copy of Elektra: Assasin) This also makes me sick. Sick, I tell you.

Batman will most likely be a "Some Assembly Required" piece, like Techun from Mage Knight Lancers, and a whole lot of other Mage Knight flyers. That is, if Batman has trouble fitting in the booster.

Is it just me, or does Wonder Woman look the least impressive of all the figures? Her sculpt is retarded.

Just my thoughts.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Ed0825
I don't suppose the Superman could be 290+ points instead of 240+, a nine could look like a 4 at the right angle. If there was ever going to be a near 300 point figure, other than big figures, this Superman would be the one to have. Under the right circumstances this superman could be playable. The Superman OWAW definately is, especially under the new rules. As far as batman he will probably be sideways. I don't think his wing span would be any greater than Sauron's wings.

These figures do look awsome. Yes these are paint masters, but there is no arguing that the sculpts are as cool as anything also.

I really have to admire the dedication of some of you Heroclix fans. I can't see a single number on that Supes figure, and you gys must be huddled around an electron microscope or shove bamboo slivers in Jon L's fingernails, because I can't see a bloody thing. Bravo on your fortitude.
Ultimate Hero-Lix does not condone the use of bamboo slivers except in Moo Goo Gai Pan.

[Puuka]

Originally posted by shin-goji in regards to coment of Avitar
Thank you, he's supposed to look surprised, like as if Wolverine got RCE. I was hoping he didn't look too much like a blow up doll.

So would it be
Sentinhole
or
Sucktenel

[Kaitouace]

First of all that Supes looks like he jumped out of a Kingdom Come trade. Definitely the best looking Supes yet.

And I'm curious about the Bat Sentry. I know it's unlikely but given their function I wonder if they'll have special rules. A mini-Sentinel of sorts. They are built to capture, after all. I'd probably prefer that to a full dial of Incapacitate or whatever it'll actually get.

Plus it excites me like others said. This means we can actually hope to see a few oversized figs like Giant-Man, etc. But to fit those in your collection.........

But now we can hope to actually see stuff like Ghost Rider with his bike. But on the other hand I see many terrible possible variants. Wolvie with Harley, Gambit with Harley, Spider-Man with Spider Buggy, etc.

Also still a bit miffed that Marvel seems to want to neuter their characters a bit for sake of playability but then we've got DC with 230 this and 240 that. But I guess since those are just more variants of old characters (Supes, Wonder Woman) it's fine. After all Marvel did pump out a 160 point Elektra. Could a 200+ Wolverine: Lord of the Vampires be far behind? Ooh. That's a cool idea. Full B/C/F, flight, phasing, Super Strength, Steal Energy, Regeneration........neato.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Puuka
So would it be
Sentinhole
or
Sucktenel
I think he'd be an LE...

[Spidersense]

Nobody commenting on the fact that this is a 97 figure set. I'm sure that means an extra unique...the Bat-Sentry.

[Puuka]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I think he'd be an LE...

What, Sarah St. John?

:p

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Kaitouace
But now we can hope to actually see stuff like Ghost Rider with his bike. But on the other hand I see many terrible possible variants. Wolvie with Harley, Gambit with Harley, Spider-Man with Spider Buggy, etc.
Why would the Joker's sidekick team up with Wolverine or Gambit...
Oh wait...I get it...:squareeye
Could we see X:2 Wolverine, with a 0 movement because Cycke's motorcycle needs gas?

[hornhead]

Originally posted by Puuka
the sculpts are good, it's the paintjobs that suck
I don't know about that ... who in Cosmic Justice looked as bad as Morgan Le Fey?

[SpinnerLover]

Looks like 265 pts.?

[Kaitouace]

And someone needs to mod a Bat-Sentry with working searchlights.

New rule: Any fig caught in the light of a Bat-Sentry immediately lose Stealth.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by Spidersense
Nobody commenting on the fact that this is a 97 figure set. I'm sure that means an extra unique...the Bat-Sentry.

Originally posted by Iron Angel
Crikey! And we have confirmation of the 97 fig set now.

Sorry, man, had to do it.

[hair10]

Does the Bat bot get the Batman team ability? Kinda hard to miss that thing hiding in the bushes!

[Puuka]

Originally posted by hornhead
I don't know about that ... who in Cosmic Justice looked as bad as Morgan Le Fey?

you try being an ancient dead witch and look good. She's have to hire Shins Sentinhole to get any action :laugh:

[Yeti]

Well these guys look amazing and uber-powerful. I have read KC both in novel and TPB form and I gotta say that it really is an amazing story especially when you look at all the undertones.

This preview does ruin my conjecture on Batman though. I figured he would just be this old man in a chair with outwit/leadership down the dial with low numbers. Oh, well throw that one out the window. Of course, seeing he has rng 6 with 2 bolts again is kind of passe.

Supes looks to be HUGE. Our thoughts are that he will be a cross between OWAW and SOD. HSS and those big damage numbers with a range of 8-10. That is my thoughts and that would make just about the right amount of pts too.

[# 1]

AWSOM!!!

[SLAYER X]

this set looks great but what is the big deal about kingdom come? I don't know anything about it.

[hair10]

Just got word from Bro_Mags that the bat sentry is not poseable. If it was, HC figs would fall into the catagory of "toy" and not "game" (although I'm not sure what the greater ramifications of that are :confused: ).

[IceHot]

Hard to say how effective KC TA will be or how costly. Not a lot of difference though between 236 and 259. 23 points could be eaten up quickly with 2 more clix of imperv, 2 more HSS, and range increase to 10. Maybe damage increase from 3 to 4 for a couple of middle clix. With HSS and soaring that could be very playable/cheesy.

[Puuka]

Originally posted by hair10
Just got word from Bro_Mags that the bat sentry is not poseable. If it was, HC figs would fall into the catagory of "toy" and not "game" (although I'm not sure what the greater ramifications of that are :confused: ).

If they become posable, then they become action figures. WK does not have the licence to make Batman Action Figure. They have a licence to distribute Miniatures for a game. Mech Warrior and Shadowrun are Action Figures (MW figs have some articulation on some of them)

[hair10]

Originally posted by Puuka
If they become posable, then they become action figures. WK does not have the licence to make Batman Action Figure. They have a licence to distribute Miniatures for a game. Mech Warrior and Shadowrun are Action Figures (MW figs have some articulation on some of them)
Good point. Guess I just didn't think far enough down the line to make that connection.

... lack of sleep due to new baby does that sometimes.... :p

[Atom]

Oh Man I take a break from all your finals work for two seconds and then this.

I must get a box of these, they look amazing I wonder who else will be in this pack.

I am so excited OMG

[BrotherMagneto]

Hair10 and all, the ramifications are that we don't have the license to do toys, just games. They fall under two different licenses. It's all very confusing and legal-ish.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by SLAYER X
this set looks great but what is the big deal about kingdom come? I don't know anything about it.

I would imagine marvel will do an ULTIMATES expansion next much like DC is doing with Kingdom Come. Too bad U Green Goblin and U Spider-Man got released too early for that.

[FoxInStocks]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Hair10 and all, the ramifications are that we don't have the license to do toys, just games. They fall under two different licenses. It's all very confusing and legal-ish.


And the difference between figure and miniature is joints?

How asinine. Goooo legality-type stuff!!! :p

[hair10]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Hair10 and all, the ramifications are that we don't have the license to do toys, just games. They fall under two different licenses. It's all very confusing and legal-ish.
Makes sense. Wouldn't want to step on the elve's (ie toy maker's) toes. :p

[Puuka]

is it just the comic licences that you cant make the "Toys" for? As I stated earlier, would the MW figs and SR be considered toys?

[thugit]

Originally posted by shin-goji
I would imagine marvel will do an ULTIMATES expansion next much like DC is doing with Kingdom Come. Too bad U Green Goblin and U Spider-Man got released too early for that.

As long as Ultimate Captain America makes it in, that's fine.

[SonofVader]

Here's what I'm wondering: what if there are 2 Bat Sentries for Uniques (a possibility with the extra figure in the set... call him Bat Sentry 2 or something)? It would either really, really mess things collectability-wise (man, 13 friggin' uniques... ugh), or we could be going back to the days of 10 uniques with an extra REV set (yay!). However, I don't know, if there were only 10 uniques, that WizKids would make 6 of them KC (Supes, Bats, WW, 2 Bat Sentries and Magog). Just testin' theories to see which hold water.

BTW, most important part of that picture: Hal Jordan. No questions. Oh, man, that's amazing.

[CaptainMarvel]

This may have been mentioned before but with this new uber powerful superman I have an interesting concept for all you Marvelites out there.....
.

.
.
.
.
Infinity Gauntlet THANOS?

Just a thought.

[The Superfly]

That KC Superman is perfect!

[andyrich]

We've all been talking about the sentry as a unique, but isn't there precident for haveing a REV of a fig and a unique--such as Wasp? I don't know why you would chose to have 4 bat-sentries in a set, but its certainly possible isn't it?

[green_knight]

Kingdom Come is a highly rated story for many reasons.

First and foremost, the epic feel of the book. This was accomplished by an amazing story that truly shoes the character of the DC universe. When chips are down, the people with heart will get together and try to make the world a better place, a return to the things that really matter.
Also, you have spectacular art, tons of detail and footnotes by the creators letting you in on all the nuances you may not have caught the first time around.

This is a story about growing up. How people's morals change with time, how the world becomes more gray to you after the shine of youth has worn off. And about regaining that youth, and the innocent desires to help those around you. Its about being an adult, in a harsh world, and still somehow finding the kind of enthusiasm for changing the world that's necessary to make a different.

Its like Rip Van Winkle, waking up to a new different world, but still being the same old person. And finding out that seemingly outdated morals can still hold.

Kind of like Captain America.


Seeing this story made into figures, and into heroclix, is wonderful.

And HAL rules!

Hey, who thinks the "other Green Lantern" in the set might be the Kingdom Come one?

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by The Clixster
Is it just me, or odes the Bat Sentry seem to have movable joints? Look at the legs....if they do, then that's how theyre gonna be able to be put into a booster and not be identified that well.....

I'm reading through this thread and you're the 3rd person to already mention that....still have over 100 posts to go...:)

[XocgX]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!! I imagine the sentry will be a U, but number 97. Therefore they could say any U numbered 97 and on (LE's too!) can be used more than once....unless LE's are not able to be duped? The only LE I have 2 of (3 really) is Jarvis Tetch.,...who sucks.

[BrotherMagneto]

Puuka, WizKids owns the license to MechWarrior and Shadowrun, while we specifically license comic properties from the respective companies to use in our game.

[Iron Angel]

Originally posted by SonofVader
Here's what I'm wondering: what if there are 2 Bat Sentries for Uniques (a possibility with the extra figure in the set... call him Bat Sentry 2 or something)? It would either really, really mess things collectability-wise (man, 13 friggin' uniques... ugh), or we could be going back to the days of 10 uniques with an extra REV set (yay!). However, I don't know, if there were only 10 uniques, that WizKids would make 6 of them KC (Supes, Bats, WW, 2 Bat Sentries and Magog). Just testin' theories to see which hold water.

As I understand it, there are 2 versions of the Sentry in the comic. Perhaps the other one will be presented as a generic?

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by DCFan#1
I know it's been kicked around a bit already, but who doesn't think Supermans AE will be Shazam. It has to be. We already have confirmation of that figure, at least in a mail away format. Magog, at best, would be a marginal figure, and Supes would destroy him. Shazam, on the other hand, would be equally as powerful, and quite a fight to see (and play).


Are you telling me that Thor and Enchantress match-up isn't fair???

[hair10]

How would you do an R/E/V Bat Sentry? They've only shown up in KC so how would you know which powers they had in previous versions (assuming that the one shown in KC is the vet and that there were even previous versions). Unique probably fits the BS about right since you can really only make one version of him.

Course that means you can't have Batman and his Sentries running around. Batman and his Sentry just isn't the same.

Originally posted by SonofVader
BTW, most important part of that picture: Hal Jordan. No questions. Oh, man, that's amazing.
Bah... he's dead. I wish he'd stay that way. Give me a Kyle GL!!

PS- Hal Jordan is not the Spectre! Jim Corrigan is!!

[Darksavage27]

Holyfreakin####!!! that is insane!! must...buy......case....

[DinoDoc]

How in God's name are they going to fit that Batbot in a booster?

[hair10]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
How in God's name are they going to fit that Batbot in a booster?
Maybe the boosters that the Bat Sentry comes in contains the Bat Sentry and 3 Atoms. :p

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by Puuka
Ok, Bat Sentry is going to take up two slots, thats fine. but how are they going to fit Batmans wings in the box?

I've been reading this whole post to see if someone else would ask that same question!!!

Those things are VERY expansive. Ooh, I like that word.

[SonofVader]

Originally posted by thugit
As long as Ultimate Captain America makes it in, that's fine.

Complete agreement.

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Thank you, he's supposed to look surprised, like as if Wolverine got RCE. I was hoping he didn't look too much like a blow up doll.

I just thought that's what your personal Sentinel always looks like to you...

[SonofVader]

Originally posted by hair10
Bah... he's dead. I wish he'd stay that way. Give me a Kyle GL!!

PS- Hal Jordan is not the Spectre! Jim Corrigan is!!

So, hair, according to you, Hal has no place in the DCU? First time I think I've ever really disagreed with you on anything.

[Noman]

...sees picture...>gasp<...thud...

...gets up...

OMG those figs are just awesome !!!

FINALY : Hal (he IS Green Lantern) plus the REAL version of Cyborg, plus 3 Realy well done sculpts of Supes, Bats, and WW from Kingdom Come...plus a Bat Sentry.

This all just uped the ante somewhat !

Well, we now have the first Unique Generic. OBVIOUSLY the Bat Sentry is a generic (how could it not be ?) but it is also a Unique.

I suspect my Judge houserule (oh, yes, I am an Envoy/Judge now - finally - thank you TallPaulP - ) will be to ALLOW multiples of it, providing 2 or more come within the tourney points limit.

I suspect they will be at 200 or 300 points each, though, so we'll only be able to do it in mega games.

Even so, this release looks Wow to the max.

And DC gets better sculpts.
Again.

LoL

All the Best

Noman

[mrpip_pal]

Those figs look ice cold, Bats especially. Kingdom Come is a good choice for U versions of these characters.

While Kingdom Come is a good GN, it doesn't hold up against Watchmen or Dark Knight Returns. It's very epic, and a nice commentary on Traditional Heroes vs. "Grim-'n-Girrty" heroes, it is at times too pretentious. I believe much of this comes from the fact the Alex Ross came to DC and said "I want to do a book drawing these versions of these characters", and then Mark Waid had to come in and fit a story around it.

But I digress...

I'm really looking forward to Cyborg and Raven, so that I can round out my Teen Titans team. I'm also interested to see what other Nons we get in this set.

[sylentspy]

haha omfg bat sentries a fish!!!

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by Gacy's Clown
I just thought that's what your personal Sentinel always looks like to you...
If I could I would have a grinning Sentinel custom.

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by hair10
Does the Bat bot get the Batman team ability? Kinda hard to miss that thing hiding in the bushes! \

...or in a gumball machine

[thugit]

Originally posted by SonofVader
Complete agreement.

This has to be a first. ;)

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by hair10
Maybe the boosters that the Bat Sentry comes in contains the Bat Sentry and 3 Atoms. :p That would be cool.

[rxkid75]

DARN IT! DARN IT! DARN IT!

I just cleaned out my DC boxes today saying to myself "Well I need to cut back and I don't like DC that much anyway. I will only get marvel boosters now and only half as many as I used to." Then what happens they bring out the greatest looking sculpts thus far and of characters that I actually love from one of the best storylines I have read recently. Dang, I guess I need to break back out the DC figs and start pawning off my possessions.

[hair10]

Originally posted by SonofVader
So, hair, according to you, Hal has no place in the DCU?
Sure he does. In the ground. Same as Bucky.



:devious:

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
Hair10 and all, the ramifications are that we don't have the license to do toys, just games. They fall under two different licenses. It's all very confusing and legal-ish.

Thanks, General!

[Darkskaven]

I've never read anything about Kingdom Come but I've already started to collect money for a booster case.

These figures are freakin' awesome !

Just hope that Bat-Sentry or Supes will not become the next Nightcrawlers and will be affordable if I don't have any in my case.

I think this set will eclipse Critical Mass easily !

[green_knight]

Hey, since we have a wizkids rep looking at this,

I'll subliminally try to influence you....

Hal Jordan LE
Parallax Unique
Hal wandering the US trying to find himself, probably similar in stats to "Patch" (well, ok, not serious on that one)
Hal Jordan Spectre Unique

And for variety

Hal in a slightly different costume

Lobo
Etrigan
Monarch
Extant
Dr Fate


Hey, its getting close to Christmas, I'd kick myself if I didn't at least ASK for this stuff. Maybe I won't get dirty bag of coal this year. Of course, if I'd stop yelling Bah Humbug at everyone...

[TheLion]

Originally posted by hair10
Sure he does. In the ground. Same as Bucky.



:devious:

Nah, Raynor and Ron Marz belong there. WK knows which Lantern to make.

:laugh:

[SonofVader]

Originally posted by thugit
This has to be a first. ;)

That's what I thought when I was typing it. I almost had a qualifier just so I wasn't fully agreeing with you, but I couldn't think of one sound enough to disagree with you.

[SonofVader]

Originally posted by hair10
Sure he does. In the ground. Same as Bucky.

:devious:

HAH!

[thugit]

Next time, I'll be more disagreeable.