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Draddog
01/16/2004, 12:24
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><B>Marvel HeroClix March Tournament Prizes!</B><P>For the month of March, the following prizes will be available for specific events. Make sure your retailer and Envoy know what events you want to participate in, so that they can schedule now! LE's may show up again in different tournament format types.<P><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Please Note:</B> These kits are subject to change without notice. Prize kit contents may vary depending on figure availability. While WizKids will make every attempt to ensure that every venue who signs up for the appropriate event receives the prize kit as stated, last minute changes and substitutions may occur.</FONT><P ALIGN="CENTER"><TABLE BORDER="1" WIDTH="420"><TR><TD COLSPAN="2" ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Draft Event</B><BR>Draft the best heroic team from boosters and play to be the last man standing!<BR>Click the photo to see the unit's stats!</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=cm208"><IMG HEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/criticalmass/cm208.gif"><BR>Major Chistopher Summers</A></TD><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=cm201"><IMG HEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/criticalmass/cm201.gif"><BR>Val-or</A></TD></TR></TABLE><P ALIGN="CENTER"><TABLE BORDER="1" WIDTH="420"><TR><TD COLSPAN="2" ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Head to Head Constructed</B><BR>Standard Head to Head Constructed Battles<BR>Click the photo to see the unit's stats!</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=cm213"><IMG HEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/criticalmass/cm213.jpg"><BR>Illyana Rasputin</A></TD><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=cm205"><IMG HEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/criticalmass/cm205.jpg"><BR>Silver Dreadnought</A></TD></TR></TABLE><P ALIGN="CENTER"><TABLE BORDER="1" WIDTH="420"><TR><TD COLSPAN="2" ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Junior</B><BR>Head to Head events for 12 and under!<BR>Click the photo to see the unit's stats!</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=xp202"><IMG HEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/xplosion/xp202.gif"><FONT SIZE="1"><BR>Kirigi</A></TD><TD ALIGN="CENTER"><A HREF="/cgi-bin/get_unit.cgi?num=xp211"><IMG HaEIGHT="150" SRC="/images/xplosion/xp211.gif"><FONT SIZE="1"><BR>Madame Hydra</A></TD></TR></TABLE><P ALIGN="CENTER"><TABLE BORDER="1" WIDTH="420"><TR>
<TD COLSPAN="2" ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Draft Event</B><BR>Draft the best heroic team from boosters and play to be the last man standing! The prizes for this event will be two random Limited Edition figures from <I>Cosmic Justice</I>!</TD></TR></TABLE>

drgnoftyr
01/16/2004, 12:26
kool silverdreadknought looks sweet

Yeti
01/16/2004, 12:29
Yeah Silver Dreadnaught looks great. Illyana 7AV! What's up with that?

Xplosion LEs for the Juniors hmmmmmm interesting.

DaLuvster89
01/16/2004, 12:31
I really want to get a Silver Dreadnaught - he seems more like the Dreadnaughts that Iron Man would take on 5 at a time in the comics! Awesome - wonder how much he'll go for on Ebay...

DS-00-0, FSD
01/16/2004, 12:31
Well, I'm disapointed in Illyana, but at least they spelled her name right on this one. :rolleyes:

The Dreadnaught looks very nice. Maybe I need to pull out the Old Hydra/AIM themed team and give it another whirl.

SonofVader
01/16/2004, 12:35
Dude, quit making stuff up. Everyone knows you don't have an "Ol' Hydra/ AIM" themed team. Lying makes baby Jesus cry.

DS-00-0, FSD
01/16/2004, 12:39
Originally posted by SonofVader
Dude, quit making stuff up. Everyone knows you don't have an "Ol' Hydra/ AIM" themed team. Lying makes baby Jesus cry.

...as does your face. ;)

...and Hooker Bombs.

webhead817
01/16/2004, 12:44
Is it just me, or is the Silver Dreadnought the cheapest fig with Invulnerable?

drgnoftyr
01/16/2004, 12:46
i think he is webhead

Yeti
01/16/2004, 12:48
It appears that indeed he is. In marvel at least I haven't checked the other universes.

DS-00-0, FSD
01/16/2004, 12:49
Yes he is, just under R She-Hulk.

SonofVader
01/16/2004, 12:49
Originally posted by DS-00-0, FSD
...as does your face. ;)

...and Hooker Bombs.

See?

AZS
01/16/2004, 12:53
Originally posted by webhead817
Is it just me,Its you.

Phantom
01/16/2004, 12:59
Heck, for that Silver Dreadnaught, I’d even favor a house rule allowing as many of them on a team as you have. Still, he’s looking very ugly, and I would like to once again express my love at Wizkids for making a 300-point AIM/Hydra team viable.

webhead817
01/16/2004, 13:01
Everybody's a comedian today I see. ;)

I'm going to assume there isn't anyone costing less starting with Impervious? If so, I think the Dread here just set a new gold standard for Mastermind.

webhead817
01/16/2004, 13:03
Oops, new Silver standard. My bad.

DaLuvster89
01/16/2004, 13:05
:cheeky:

Very punny, Webhead!

AZS
01/16/2004, 13:21
Pretty playable at 56 points.
Inv, Incapacitate, 3 damage, 8 range and a capable 10 AV.

Not too shabby.
Certainly the better half of the pair with Illiana.

Grinner
01/16/2004, 13:24
I know my daughter's going to be thrilled when she gets home from school today. I'd heard that the Junior tournaments had been dropped, but with prize support on the page there it looks like she'll get to do 'em.

thugit
01/16/2004, 13:30
Originally posted by azs
Pretty playable at 56 points.
Inv, Incapacitate, 3 damage, 8 range and a capable 10 AV.

Not too shabby.
Certainly the better half of the pair with Illiana.


I want to agree with people sometimes, I really do....

56 points is not really that great a buy for what he does. Don't get me wrong, he doesn't suck, but he's a bit overcosted.

Funky Jett
01/16/2004, 13:32
Originally posted by Yeti
It appears that indeed he is. In marvel at least I haven't checked the other universes.
He's the cheapest figure with Invulnerability in all the universes.

newtonboy
01/16/2004, 13:33
What do they mean by random CJ LEs? Is it going to be truly random regardless of level, or is it going to be a random le3 and a random le4?

I was really hoping for Yrra Cyrnil and Pharzoof since they have not been tourny prizes yet.

Rocket Ranger
01/16/2004, 13:38
Ah yes, I was hoping we'd see the LE Dreadnought with some invulnerability. The silver "finish" is just icing on the cake. It's nice to see Wizkids putting more effort into offering a little more variety on a couple of their LE versions of REV clix this set.

While the Silver Dreadnought is the lowest clix with inv., it's a shame he wasn't a few points less so clix like the Red Skull, Viper or Madame Masque could have taken advantage of his defense power. That would have been nice for a theme player like me. Oh well, at least the Moloids will have a new "toy" to present to Moleman to help protect them during their daring "surface" raids. Also, this fella ought to be a nice carry-on for the LE Doctor Doom for his trip around the board.

Illyana looks very "bleh." I'll be sure to put her at the bottom of the list for the LE's I want for Critical Mass.

Funky Jett
01/16/2004, 13:41
LOL!!! Val-or, at 23 points, has 3 clicks of Mastermind as well as 2 clicks of Leadership... but no Stealth! What a great target for an Energy Explosion attack! He'll have other Moloids around him to Mastermind his damage to, but that just KOs them that much faster! Oh my, that is rich...

Nevest
01/16/2004, 14:00
Hmmm, the Summers/Valor prize pack was just done in December so it's a little dissappointing to see them again already. I'm also bummed that there is once again no IndyClix event. It's also impossible for us to run junior tournaments at our venue since no kids under 12 have ever expressed any interest in HeroClix.

The surprise CJ LEs are exciting though!

RavenProject
01/16/2004, 14:00
56 points is not really that great a buy for what he does. Don't get me wrong, he doesn't suck, but he's a bit overcosted.

I've got to disagree. There's so much on the Silver Dreadnaught that I'm actually surprised he isn't *more* expensive.

-J

drgnoftyr
01/16/2004, 14:03
yea that's true but i'm glad they kept them cheap...........

RavenProject
01/16/2004, 14:12
Hmmm, the Summers/Valor prize pack was just done in December so it's a little dissappointing to see them again already.

Don't be disappointed... this happened because we've had so many Marvel events recently.

December: Major Christopher Summers and Val-Or
January: Sarah and Nebula, Calypso Ezili and Hepzibah
February: Marc Spector and Divebomber, Elektra Natchios and Roger Falcone, Professor X and Captain Mar-Vell

Then in March we get another new pairing with Illyana Rasputin and the Silver Dreadnaught.

Of the six remaining CM LEs, five will not be given away in normal tourneys (LE6 Sergei Kravinoff, Warren Worthington III and Rupert; LE5 Dr. Karla Sofen and Matt Murdock) and the last is odd duck Alex O'Hirn. That leaves seven pairs of CM LEs for standard tournaments. So basically, we're seeing Summers/Val-or "again" because it's their turn in the rotation.

Also, keep in mind that even though December just ended these won't be coming until March. So by the time players are competing for them, it'll be between two and three months since they last came up.

Make sense?

-J

PMMJ
01/16/2004, 14:24
Quick, to the RavenProjectMobile!

Puuka
01/16/2004, 14:26
Originally posted by Nevest
Hmmm, the Summers/Valor prize pack was just done in December so it's a little dissappointing to see them again already. I'm also bummed that there is once again no IndyClix event. It's also impossible for us to run junior tournaments at our venue since no kids under 12 have ever expressed any interest in HeroClix.

The surprise CJ LEs are exciting though!

So you schedule them, if anyone shows up, then you run it. If no one shows up, then you have prize support for a future Venue run event (Yes, this is allowed) in those months that there are 5 "Game nights" (Like March)

Nevest
01/16/2004, 14:49
Good point RP, I had forgotten how many Marvel tournaments they're doing in February. I'm still dissappointed that there is no IndyClix in February or March. It just seems wrong to abandon that Univers like this.

There are a few players we have who have little kids (3-5 y/o) so maybe we'll try to get them to bring them and walk them through a sort of simple game and give them the prizes.

Ah, addicting a whole new generation even before they are able to say no.

webhead817
01/16/2004, 15:36
Just checked...exp. Taskmaster, rook. Nebula and le Eddie Nashton just gained an Invulnerable fig to Mastermind to.


Because I know you guys really wanted to know. :)

webhead817
01/16/2004, 15:41
Wow, imagine my surprise to find that the cheapest Impervious fig costs only 60 points...rookie Judge Mortis! That's crazy.

drgnoftyr
01/16/2004, 15:55
nice even more reason we need the rest of the indy figs over in the us

DaLuvster89
01/16/2004, 15:57
I think that using Silver Dreaddy here as simply MM fodder may not be the best option - He seems to be an attacker in his own right. Keeping him on Invuln. / Incap. would be optimal, IMHO. I guess he could soak up any 2 damage attacks, but as a strict fodder piece, I'm not sold. He only has 6 total clix, so I'd try to be really selective about how he takes damage. Plus he doesn't have Stealth, so Outwit Invuln, attack Mastermind would make short work of this Silvery 50 point + fig...

webhead817
01/16/2004, 15:59
I'm not suggesting that using Silver 'Naught for MM only is the way to go...I'm just always looking for the cheapest most cost effective way to acheive certain ends. If I developed a team that absolutely needed the cheapest Invulnerable fig to MM to, now I know what it is. Same with Impervious.

thugit
01/16/2004, 16:05
Originally posted by DaLuvster89
Plus he doesn't have Stealth, so Outwit Invuln, attack Mastermind would make short work of this Silvery 50 point + fig...


2 questions, and I'm not being sarcastic.

1. If you outwit inv, why not just attack him?
2. If you have outwit, why not outwit mastermind? (assuming the mastermind fig doesn't have stealth?)

Yeti
01/16/2004, 16:12
Originally posted by thugit
2 questions, and I'm not being sarcastic.

1. If you outwit inv, why not just attack him?
2. If you have outwit, why not outwit mastermind? (assuming the mastermind fig doesn't have stealth?)

Stopt that! Practicality has no place in this forum! Leave at once!;)

Seriously though, if I wanted to force my opponent into a tough decsion, outwitting the Inv and then attacking the MM is the way to go. It is win win either way.

thugit
01/16/2004, 16:16
If that's the reason, so be it.

I don't agree, but that's normal. ;)

DaLuvster89
01/16/2004, 16:27
"2 questions, and I'm not being sarcastic.

1. If you outwit inv, why not just attack him?
2. If you have outwit, why not outwit mastermind? (assuming the mastermind fig doesn't have stealth?)" -the Bad Guy

1. Valid point - sorry. Maybe the MM fig is in range/BtB or something. Wasn't quite thinking 100% on that one. Happens.
2. I was particularly thinking of E Taskmaster - I though that he was mentioned. If the MM fig doesn't have Stealth, then by all means, Outwit MM.

I think that my main point that didn't come across at all was that at 50-some points, it's kinda risky to play the fig as just fodder. It's always nice to know the cheapest Invuln. char as Webhead described, but personally, I was thinking more along the lines of the Hydra team and how Silver here benefits them. You know, Ninjas and such.

I'll shut up now... Curse you, Thugit! ;) j/k

drgnoftyr
01/16/2004, 16:28
it all depends on which one was more of a threat would ya let nebula just sit there and kill you or would ya take her down a notch

webhead817
01/16/2004, 16:47
With E Taskmaster...if Silver Dreadnought is "lending" him Invulnerability via Mastermind, the least Taskmaster could do is "lend" SD Stealth via careful positioning. :)

Basil Elks
01/16/2004, 17:06
Finally a silver Dreadnought! ;)

Rocket Ranger
01/16/2004, 21:42
The great thing about the idea of using the Silver Dreadnought as a Mastermind soaker IS the fact that he's also a very tough, very mobile, fairly cheap offensive piece. With a character like the LE Doctor Doom whose starting powers of pulse-wave, perplex and a starting 3 damage himself, the LE Dreadnought is a great clix to have on the board just in case you need to protect Doom's first click. Of course, outwit can quickly shut down all but those in stealth, but, in a 300pt. game, the LE Dreadnought/LE Doom combo comes in at only 124pts. which leaves a lot left over to fill a team with another heavy-hitter and support figs. Unless your opponent has multiple stealth, they may have more dangerous clix to worry about than just the robotic LE's.

With his high movement, the Dreadnought can get almost anywhere from the middle of the board to either base one of your opponents attackers or supporting clix, or, to run over to base LE Doom or any other of your Mastermind clix to help protect them. If you don't need the mastermind, the LE Dreadnought has got to be the best generic so far able to go toe to toe with the hero's and villains in the game and hold his own.

Until we get some Mindless Ones or something similiar, it may be a while until we see another generic with invulnerability. Too bad the fact that he is an LE voids the option of fielding multiples of him.:disappoin

Still, I can't wait to get my hands on one of them LE silver robots! Ultron will finally have a protege worthy of his kind!:p

drgnoftyr
01/17/2004, 07:24
very true i think silver dreadnought is one of the best generic le's we have going right now other than a medic le :) electra was good doombot was fun but this guy is perfectly playable ;)

Silver Lantern
01/17/2004, 17:03
Webhead: While he IS the cheapest Inv fig he only has 1 click, which does not necessarily make him the most cost effective cheap Inv fig. R Sandman offers a whopping 3 clicks of Inv for a mere 61 points. Plus the all annoying Plasticity to make people stay. I prefer him as LE Dooms sponge.
If by cost effective you mean THE CHEAPEST, then sure SD is your man, but if you mean it to mean the best bang for your buck, there are better options. R Shehulk offers 2 clicks of Inv, 4 of toughness, and a 7th click with nothing, making her a better sponge if they are only attacking for 3 damage. Heck, R Scorpion is the king in my book with 5 clicks of toughness for 29 points.
And R Motris is great as a sponge, but with a low DV and no Stealth, outwit owns him. Still 2 clicks of Inv and 2 of Imp is nice for a mere 60 points. That is a lot of 3 damage/Incap guys they need to render him KO'd.