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Karma0001

10/01/2004, 14:16

Originally posted by drgnof tyr
yea nash hall and sean waltman just signed on for ppv contracts i believe... it's a real shame these guy's won't do tv anymore... all we get is aj styles who has a wicked pile driver flip slam.... jeff hardy and every now and then raven and jeff jarret will show up .... but that's about it on tv tapings....

Actually that's not true. 3 Live Kru (BG James, who used to be known as Road Dogg, Ron "The Truth Killings, who used to be K-Kwik, and Konnan) wrestle quite often on the TV tapings. Most of TNA's TV tapings are centered around the X Division and tag team wrestling with Petey Williams (best finisher EVER), Amazing Red, Chris Sabin, Kid Kash, and teams like Kazarian and Michael Shane, America's Most Wanted, Triple X, and so on. There are quite a few names that old school WWE/WWF fans will know, but TNA has more of their own stars that can light it up and yes I enjoy TNA ten times more than WWE because although they have storylines too, their product is more centered around fast paced wrestling than talking. You know going to a TNA event you'll have more than 1 match an hour. This last week was the most talking I've seen at a TNA event and I found out that it was because they had alot of their show centered around Jeff Hardy and once again in typical Jeff Hardy fashion he no showed the taping and they had to rework everything at the last second. Gee and most people wonder why I boo this guy incessantly. lol He has no real heart for the business. I can't wait until the Impact taping this week. Rowdy Roddy Piper will be there and we'll get to see Raven vs. The Alpha Male Monty Brown (sweet!)

drgnoftyr

10/01/2004, 14:32

Originally posted by Karma0001
Actually that's not true. 3 Live Kru (BG James, who used to be known as Road Dogg, Ron "The Truth Killings, who used to be K-Kwik, and Konnan) wrestle quite often on the TV tapings. Most of TNA's TV tapings are centered around the X Division and tag team wrestling with Petey Williams (best finisher EVER), Amazing Red, Chris Sabin, Kid Kash, and teams like Kazarian and Michael Shane, America's Most Wanted, Triple X, and so on. There are quite a few names that old school WWE/WWF fans will know, but TNA has more of their own stars that can light it up and yes I enjoy TNA ten times more than WWE because although they have storylines too, their product is more centered around fast paced wrestling than talking. You know going to a TNA event you'll have more than 1 match an hour. This last week was the most talking I've seen at a TNA event and I found out that it was because they had alot of their show centered around Jeff Hardy and once again in typical Jeff Hardy fashion he no showed the taping and they had to rework everything at the last second. Gee and most people wonder why I boo this guy incessantly. lol He has no real heart for the business. I can't wait until the Impact taping this week. Rowdy Roddy Piper will be there and we'll get to see Raven vs. The Alpha Male Monty Brown (sweet!)

you didn't expect me to name the whole roster did you.... i was naming a few guy's .....:ermm: :ermm: :devious: :devious:

Karma0001

10/03/2004, 07:04

LOL Ok it's cool man. It's just that if you're talking real talent that actually gets used, you could go through at least more than half of TNA's roster whereas in WWE on either show you get the same 5 or 6 guys rammed down your throat every week. I've had three friends of mine that for the longest time just loved WWE and didn't see TNA but didn't want to give it a chance and just called me a TNA mark. Last week I got the last of the three to see TNA and he became the third convert to saying that TNA makes WWE look stupid talentwise.

Basil Elks

10/14/2004, 17:45

Here're my thoughts for who I think should be in a new NWO wolfpac:

Sid Vicious {leader}
DDP
Raven
Sean O'Haire
Golddust {becomes wolfdust, & does his make-up red & black} these five come back to the WWE as the wolfpac, & recruit these 5:

HHH
RVD
Rey Rey
Kane
John Cena

well, what do you think?

Mägo de Oz

10/14/2004, 17:50

Cant see that happening Basil... while i would enjoy seeing the nWo again no of them would fit in the nWo not even Triple H that can do almost any gimmick. If they decide to bring back the nWo to the WWE or anywhere they should stick to the original three maybe four (Syxx). If they add anyone else all they will do is damage the little name the nWo has left.

Basil Elks

10/14/2004, 17:53

But wouldn't Sid make a great wolfpac member? & could you imagine Rey Rey as an NWO member? Plus Sean O'Haire needs to comeback, maybe as 'Taker's Disciple.

Mägo de Oz

10/14/2004, 17:59

i dont know... Sid has his psycho gimmick, i dont think i could see him any other way. Rey Mysterio is a no...no... he is too jolly for an nWo member. As for Sean he could make a good Taker disciple IF (and it is a big if) Taker uses his old outfit! Taker isnt the same guy without it. I am happy he is back to his original gimmick but he needs his outfit.

and he should never do the last ride again...

Basil Elks

10/14/2004, 18:08

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
and he should never do the last ride again... or if he does, he should call it something different, like "the Hearse slam", or something. :ermm: {Hey, I'm new at this whole move name making up thingy. In fact, the finishing move that I've made up, I just call it "the Pillory". }

Richard

10/15/2004, 07:29

I think a good replacement name for Taker's last move would be BURIED ALIVE. He lifts them up then buries them.

Basil Elks

10/20/2004, 17:53

Originally posted by Richard
I think a good replacement name for Taker's last move would be BURIED ALIVE. He lifts them up then buries them. Or how about "the Final Nail"?

On another note, does anyone else think that it'd be cool if, come the next RAW, Randy Orton boasts about defeating Ric Flair, & being a true "Legend Killer" & no-one can stop him. Then no sooner after he's done boasting, Abdullah the Butcher appears on the Titan-tron, & says "So, you think that you'll a 'Legend Killer', huh?, Well howabout you try, & take me on?" Then we'll see Orton piss himself in fear.

discombobulous

10/20/2004, 22:31

Who here is going to see Victory Road?

AJ Styles vs. Petey Williams

How amazing will that be?

Mägo de Oz

10/21/2004, 22:00

Oh yeah! Snitzky beat Kane!

Snitzky is the man!

Go Gene!

PsychoDBoy

11/04/2004, 02:39

So in just a couple of days, the WWE has released A-Train, Billy Gunn, Test, Chuck Pulambo (sp), Gail Kim, and Nidia, because they weren't being used enough for what they were getting paid apparently (and some have been out injured for awhile). I love how they can take some superstars that have been with the company for years upon years though, and dump them, yet offer up 1 mil for this new Tough Enough contest, and hire as many of the 'divas' as they please from the Diva search, not to mention mistakes they've brought up from OVW (including Mordecai and Heidenwreck his first time around). An why get rid of Gail and not someone like Ivory? Last and only times I remember seeing her lately is hosting Heat before a ppv or some ####. I swear they need to get their priorities n such straight before TNA gets bigger and more mainstream, and before Ted Turner starts another company if those rumors are true, because WWE product is sucking hardcore these days.

PsychoDBoy

11/04/2004, 11:28

And there goes Johnny Stamboli, Rodney Mack, and Jazz....

Mägo de Oz

11/04/2004, 11:43

Woohoo!! lots of carppy wrestlers gone! Rodney sucks... Stamboli sucks... A- Train sucks... Jazz sucks...

As for the rest we didn't see them on tv so they dont need them... Gail is the best female wrestler they ahd and they let ehr go... that was wrong...

lets hope they all go to TNA or something and kick ###!

Richard

11/04/2004, 12:26

Now if they just fire about 30 more wrestlers they can go back to making good shows again!:)

This whole year has been a real disappointment. Are they even trying? Do they care if the fans are going away?

The only thing I am happy about is Booker T finally getting a push. I just hope they follow it up with something. That's the problem with their pushes. They build up and hype one aspect of a wrestler or match and when the even comes and goes, there is no follow up. They drop things so people don't care.

PsychoDBoy

11/04/2004, 18:21

And Rico makes ten.....

Yet they still have people like Mark Henry and Chris Nowinski on their payroll....

Basil Elks

11/04/2004, 18:35

the WWE should bring back Sean O'Haire.

lukion

11/04/2004, 19:02

I am sorry to see all this talent go. I blame the show and not the performer for the most part for these people not being more popular. The story writers simply aren't trying any good plots or stables. I remember a terrific match between Kane and Albert about 2 years ago. Best big guy match I ever saw. Albert reversed the chokeslam with a ddt, lifted Kane for the Boggo bomb and Kane kicked out and choke slammed him again. Whoever was supposed to be the main match for the night must have been delayed on a flight and couldn't make it and this was a last moment thing and it was great. A nothing wrestler is only that because of the show. I hope all these performers go to TNA and bring the show up a few notches. I really do brother. Man I miss when we had matches on here.:cool: :cool: :cool:

Richard

11/04/2004, 21:32

Originally posted by lukion
Man I miss when we had matches on here.:cool: :cool: :cool:

La Parka runs in and hits Hulk Hogan in the head, for old times sake, and steals the belt then runs away.

The WWE stories are terrible. Smackdown is on right now and I have ZERO interest in it to go and watch it. I like Booker T but, the stories are so weak. As a matter of fact, the APA Protection Agency was my favorite part of the show for years. Bradshaw and Farooq rocked. Bradshaw was even my favorite wrestler then. Now he's the champ and I could care less. The stories are just awful.

La Parka hands Hulk his belt back and helps him up. He dusts him off and shakes his hand. Hogan smiles and shakes his finger at him like La Parka has been a "naughty boy." La Parka exits the ring and Hogan begins to pose with the belt.

La Parka sneaks back in the ring and again assaults Hogan about the head and neck with the steel chair. Lawler can be heard saying, "Well, you know JR, he IS the CHAIR -Man of the ring!"

La Parka stands over the fallen Hogan doing a mock Guitar solo with one foot planted firnly on his behind. The lights dim and the fans GO WILD!!!

Mägo de Oz

11/05/2004, 00:40

Cristopher is awesome... MArk Henry sucks... I agree with Basil for once, they should bring Sean O Haire back... (dont get used to it Basil ;))

And most of the people they fired ####... i would have fired them long ago. Except for Gail Kim, Rico and Chuck...

Lets just hope Vince keep firing people...

Basil Elks

11/05/2004, 17:31

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
Cristopher is awesome... MArk Henry sucks... I agree with Basil for once, they should bring Sean O Haire back... (dont get used to it Basil ;))

And most of the people they fired ####... i would have fired them long ago. Except for Gail Kim, Rico and Chuck...

Lets just hope Vince keep firing people... Don't worry, I never get used to anything. ;) I want them to bring in Sting, & Lex Luger. & fire Nunzio, bah! anyone who names himself after one of Dharma & Greg's dogs deserves to get canned. Fire Hardcore Holly as well, Molly, too.

Mägo de Oz

11/05/2004, 19:54

Good... aint happening again... (For now)

Nunzio should stay... he is a good wrestler... Luger is old he should stay retired or doing whatever it is he is doing...

Richard

11/05/2004, 21:43

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
Good... aint happening again... (For now)

Nunzio should stay... he is a good wrestler... Luger is old he should stay retired or doing whatever it is he is doing...

Isn't Luger in jail for supplying the drugs that killed Miss Elizabeth?

Mägo de Oz

11/07/2004, 10:49

Originally posted by Richard
Isn't Luger in jail for supplying the drugs that killed Miss Elizabeth?

I dont know... I will try to find out and i will let you know...

Degenx

11/07/2004, 11:28

Actually, Luger is awaiting trial on possession and distrubution of steriods and other controlled substances. He's not charged with the death of Elizabeth, because, I believe, the pain pills she took was hers, and the fact, those pain pills were mixed with alcohol were the cause of death.

Now I have my theories, as to how she recieved the back injury, requiring the use of pain pills, and her "bloated" look towards the end of her run in WCW. And lets just say they don't involved Luger either.

Basil Elks

11/08/2004, 16:40

Rumor has it the the WWE will be releasing two more wrestlers, soon.

Richard

11/08/2004, 20:07

Originally posted by Basil Elks
Rumor has it the the WWE will be releasing two more wrestlers, soon.

HHH & who else?

:p :p :p

Mägo de Oz

11/09/2004, 12:04

HHH is the best... :cool:

Richard

11/09/2004, 12:24

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
HHH is the best... :cool:

. . . And, he will be the first to tell you so!:p

Actually, I was being ironic. To have HHH fired would mean that everyone in the company, including JR and Shane, would have to be fired before they let HHH go. After all, isn't he really, Hunter Hearst Helmsly-McMahon? HHH-M? :cheeky:

Mägo de Oz

11/09/2004, 18:55

yep... the lucky guy... ;)

well not many people like him... so i was just saying the truth, He is the game after all...

Karma0001

11/10/2004, 16:41

All of this WWE babble. I am so disillusioned with them it's not even funny. Thank goodness for NWA TNA. Victory Road was absolutely incredible (I was there for the whole weekend). Everyone top to bottom was so overly friendly in an era of wrestling where you don't see that enough. They did several autograph signings and some of the wrestlers even made it a point to single out and look for people who made signs for them just so they could personalize the event for those people. As much stuff as I give Jeff Hardy as a "heel fan" he even signed all of our Anti Jeff Hardy signs and got quite a kick out of a few of them. Erik Watts made it a point to find my girlfriend and autograph a sign she made for him which made her weekend. And TNA is still growing by leaps and bounds now that they've signed Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Spanky (Brian Kendrick), Jacqueline, Billy Gunn (whatever name he'll be using since WWE owns that name), Macho Man Randy Savage, and Diamond Dallas Page. I came out of Victory Road so impressed even over the great stuff they normally do and watched Raw the next night and was so B-O-R-E-D by it. If TNA gets a prime time slot where everyone can see it, Vince will have a worse war than he did with WCW and this time I hope he loses. At one time Vince may have made wrestling, but now he thinks he's so invincible that he doesn't care about the business or about the people who pay to watch it.

And I hope they fire the Hurricane so he can go to TNA and get used RIGHT.

Heck at this point SmackDown is even more entertaining to watch than Raw anymore.

Basil Elks

11/10/2004, 17:47

HHH is still one of my favorites, in the WWE. In my top 5.

Richard

11/16/2004, 07:50

Will either Maven, Benoit, Jerhico or Orton get the belt from HHH while they are in charge of Raw? I caught the end of Raw last night and it is INDEED good to be married to the daughter of the company. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT want Maven to be the champ but, he should have been last night.

It was too long and too drawn out not to have changed hands and shocked the viewers. I don't know why they feel the need to have a wrestler lose their titles at only PPVs. That is just wrong.

I guess we are going to see Benoit or Jerhico go at HHH next week and then the other will follow. Then, will we finally see Randy Orton regain the title from HHH? I doubt it. They will waste the gimmick of having them run Raw to have the title change hands at a PPV.

Richard

11/16/2004, 07:52

Originally posted by Richard
Will either Maven, Benoit, Jerhico or Orton get the belt from HHH while they are in charge of Raw? I caught the end of Raw last night and it is INDEED good to be married to the daughter of the company.

Of course I meant "daughter of the owner of the company" but I could not edit SECONDS after I entered it!!! Stupid time limits!!!

Mägo de Oz

11/16/2004, 12:01

Originally posted by Richard
Will either Maven, Benoit, Jerhico or Orton get the belt from HHH while they are in charge of Raw? I caught the end of Raw last night and it is INDEED good to be married to the daughter of the company. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT want Maven to be the champ but, he should have been last night.

It was too long and too drawn out not to have changed hands and shocked the viewers. I don't know why they feel the need to have a wrestler lose their titles at only PPVs. That is just wrong.

I guess we are going to see Benoit or Jerhico go at HHH next week and then the other will follow. Then, will we finally see Randy Orton regain the title from HHH? I doubt it. They will waste the gimmick of having them run Raw to have the title change hands at a PPV.

You are wrong about a few things...

First last night on Raw the tag titles changed so... they dont only change on PPVs... second Orton can't take the belt from HHH... There is no way Orton can win the belt while HHH has it...

Richard

11/16/2004, 12:46

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
You are wrong about a few things...

First last night on Raw the tag titles changed so... they dont only change on PPVs... second Orton can't take the belt from HHH... There is no way Orton can win the belt while HHH has it...

First of all, the Tag Team titles have become a JOKE! This from the Federation that brought us Demolition, The Hart Foundation, The Rockers, etc. And the same Federation that bought or stole The Steiners, The Road Warriors, and others. The tradition is rich but the current list is not impressive at all.

Second, about Orton, Why?

Is it because HHH does not want to be a legend that is beaten/killed by Orton? Is his ego that fragile? HHH should be big enough to put anybody over. Flair did it for Orton. Don't tell me that Flair is just past his prime because Ric Flair could believably beat any WWE superstar (including any of the steroid induced monsters). He's the Nature Boy! And the Nature Boy jobbed to put Orton over. HHH just needs to think about the future of the company.

Mägo de Oz

11/16/2004, 13:22

Originally posted by Richard
First of all, the Tag Team titles have become a JOKE! This from the Federation that brought us Demolition, The Hart Foundation, The Rockers, etc. And the same Federation that bought or stole The Steiners, The Road Warriors, and others. The tradition is rich but the current list is not impressive at all.

Second, about Orton, Why?

Is it because HHH does not want to be a legend that is beaten/killed by Orton? Is his ego that fragile? HHH should be big enough to put anybody over. Flair did it for Orton. Don't tell me that Flair is just past his prime because Ric Flair could believably beat any WWE superstar (including any of the steroid induced monsters). He's the Nature Boy! And the Nature Boy jobbed to put Orton over. HHH just needs to think about the future of the company.

I agree about the Tag Teams being a joke but still they are belts and they changed hands on Raw... i was just answring you...

As for Otron and HHH is because Orton had a match that if he los the couldnt have a title while HHH was the heavyweight champion and he lost that match against none other than The Nature Boy...

HHH still has a few years left in him... While he has them he should be like Flair... With that i mean that he should get title shots and be the champion once he retires in a few years he should help someone else being on top by passing the torch just like Flair did...

Richard

11/16/2004, 14:51

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz

HHH still has a few years left in him... While he has them he should be like Flair... With that i mean that he should get title shots and be the champion once he retires in a few years he should help someone else being on top by passing the torch just like Flair did...

I just don't want them riding him into the ground. I respect what he has done and he is one of the few wrestlers with personality and mic skills. But, someone else just needs to be the champ.

Also, he is NO Ric Flair. Flair was something not seen before. HHH needs to go a long way to make that a fair comparison.

lukion

11/16/2004, 18:46

Hey Karma0001, is it true what you said about TNA signing Hall, Nash and Gunn? With all the stars WWE has let go recently, Tna has quite the pool to pick from if they can afford it and if the current TNA talent will work with them. I'm hoping for a better time slot for the program as well. So early in the day, people would have to tape it. McMahon isn't even trying anymore. I find I watch half the show (Raw) muted. Simon D? Give me a break. Not one decent story line going and it would be sooo simple to make better one's with the talent they have brother. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Mägo de Oz

11/18/2004, 15:32

Originally posted by Richard
I just don't want them riding him into the ground. I respect what he has done and he is one of the few wrestlers with personality and mic skills. But, someone else just needs to be the champ.

Also, he is NO Ric Flair. Flair was something not seen before. HHH needs to go a long way to make that a fair comparison.

The only one i can see being a champ other than Triple H on raw is Jericho and apparently they dont want him to be the champ. So... if it aint going to be Y2J then HHH is the champ.

Basil Elks

11/18/2004, 15:58

Did you guys know, that the wrestler formerly known as Mrs. Cleavage died, a couple days after Boss Man? She died at the age of 35, from breast cancer.

Basil Elks

11/18/2004, 16:01

This should help http://rpgforumz.com/showthread.php?t=1010

Richard

11/18/2004, 17:04

I am not sure I remember her. But 35 years old! Yikes! Talk about a tragedy!

Mago, in all the WWE, who could be an effective champ? Who would have the draw and sustain it besides HHH & Y2J? I hate to say this because I was always a big Bret Hart fan but what about Shawn Michaels? He still has fan support. Who else?

Basil Elks

11/18/2004, 17:08

Imagine Batista became the champ?

Mägo de Oz

11/18/2004, 17:41

Originally posted by Richard
I am not sure I remember her. But 35 years old! Yikes! Talk about a tragedy!

Mago, in all the WWE, who could be an effective champ? Who would have the draw and sustain it besides HHH & Y2J? I hate to say this because I was always a big Bret Hart fan but what about Shawn Michaels? He still has fan support. Who else?

Personally i dont like HBK that much... I think he should retire as soon as possible... but if we are talking about fan reactions and all that, HBK would be the champ or Randy...
Those two are the ones that the fans are like really supporting them.

Mägo de Oz

11/18/2004, 17:43

Originally posted by Basil Elks
Imagine Batista became the champ?

He will become the champ eventually, when Randy is the champion again and Edge is on the title run. When HHH, HBK... are out of the title picture.

Richard

11/18/2004, 20:51

Originally posted by Mägo de Oz
He will become the champ eventually, when Randy is the champion again and Edge is on the title run. When HHH, HBK... are out of the title picture.

Didn't you think that HHH and HBK would be out of the title hunt when they were fueding? It would have intensified the fued. It would have made their struggle more about pride and less about being champion. They could have gone back and forth for a while and fans could have been satisfied.

Batista is not the right "TYPE" to be champion. By that I mean, he looks like a champion so he can't be a champion. It's like Big Show, no one should be able to take him. The Big Show is a monster and unlike Andre the Big Show has moves and mic skills. He would be an unbeatable champion. Batista is HUGE!!! He's scary! He is chiseled and mean looking and with Flair teaching him just a few finese moves, he would be unstoppable. He just has the look . . . That's why he won't ever be champion. If he is, it will be a VERY short title reign (like Sunday's PPV to Monday's RAW!!! ).

What about Booker T? Bradshaw? Shelton Benjamin? Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit? Talent, to be sure. Are any of them good enough to strap the WWE onto their backs and carry the company? What with Undertaker retiring and Stone Cold being too crippled and the Rock making movies. . . Who will save the WWE?

Basil Elks

11/19/2004, 12:53

Undertaker's retiring?

Richard

11/19/2004, 13:31

This is an old rumor. Apparently, The Next Big Thing, Brock Lesner did not want to job to Taker on his road to Wrestlemania and retirement. Taker was supposed to go out on top with one last win at Wrestlemania to keep his streak of undefeated there unbroken. I have not heard anything more on this though since Lesner is gone.

Mägo de Oz

11/20/2004, 10:33

Originally posted by Richard
Didn't you think that HHH and HBK would be out of the title hunt when they were fueding? It would have intensified the fued. It would have made their struggle more about pride and less about being champion. They could have gone back and forth for a while and fans could have been satisfied.

Batista is not the right "TYPE" to be champion. By that I mean, he looks like a champion so he can't be a champion. It's like Big Show, no one should be able to take him. The Big Show is a monster and unlike Andre the Big Show has moves and mic skills. He would be an unbeatable champion. Batista is HUGE!!! He's scary! He is chiseled and mean looking and with Flair teaching him just a few finese moves, he would be unstoppable. He just has the look . . . That's why he won't ever be champion. If he is, it will be a VERY short title reign (like Sunday's PPV to Monday's RAW!!! ).

What about Booker T? Bradshaw? Shelton Benjamin? Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit? Talent, to be sure. Are any of them good enough to strap the WWE onto their backs and carry the company? What with Undertaker retiring and Stone Cold being too crippled and the Rock making movies. . . Who will save the WWE?

If i had to choose anyone to be the champ i would choose Triple H just because he is the one that i see that could keep the company going, but since Triple H is the champ I will choose someone else. That other person would be Chris Jericho. Why? Because he is has the mic skills and ring talent. In my eyes he is one of three in thg WWE right now. With that I mean Triple H, Kurt Angle, and Jericho. Those three are the only ones that can make you love them or hate them in just a second. So they certainly have the mic talent to handle it.

As for Batista i could see him being a champion but In a year or two... He still needs to work on his ring skills (wrestling skills) once he gets that right and becomes the IC champ for a few month then I could see him goingup to the Heavyweight Belt. But he still needs to work abit more on his mic and ring skills.

I think that they gave Benoit his chance and he didn't do as good as they expected. So i dont think that he will have another chance for a while. While he might be one of the top three wrestlers in the WWE right now (wrestling skills) he is one of the worst with a mic on the WWE so that doesn't help him much. Booker T should retire, he isn't the same as he used to be. Maybe he should get a small title run and then retire.

Mägo de Oz

11/20/2004, 10:34

Originally posted by Basil Elks
Undertaker's retiring?

Yes... He is supposed to be leaving after this years Wrestlemania...

lukion

11/22/2004, 20:28

NOW THAT IS HOW YOU START RAW!!!!!! That was hilarious. Doing the whole cut on the NFL and the NBA. Vince Mc Mahon did right tonight

Richard

11/23/2004, 07:35

Great! Just Great! There was something good on RAW and I missed it!?! I saw the end of RAW and it STUNK! "Oh I paid off a fake doctor that just happened to be backstage" (not the WWE Trainer or Doctor). Then Batisita pulled off the acting job of the century and HHH still insulted him and he just took it. I tricked the GM of RAW! HHH stands for HA! HA! HA!

That was just stupid and insulting! How about something thought out and clever??? The whole GM thing would be great for putting somebody over that needed it like Shelton Benjamin with his title but HHH hardly needs a push!

I guess I'm sad I missed a good opening to a show where the opening was the high point.

lukion

11/30/2004, 20:06

Yeah sorry you missed thew opening Rich. There is a link on the www.wwe.com site, lower left. It was a aprody of the Desperate Housewives controversial drama and a shot at the NBA for the atheles going into the stands. Hey does anyone know anything about the new WWE24/7? i know it is a digital cable channel but I do not know where it is offered. Madison, WI does not have it. The line up looks awesome if you look on the wwe.com site you can see it off the link.

Richard

12/28/2004, 14:11

Hulkamania must truly be dead. I hang my head in sorrow. Man, no posts to this thread in almost a month. What does that say about the shape of wrestling today?

Mägo de Oz

12/28/2004, 15:55

well that its christmas and people are on vacation...

Mr.Heroclix

01/25/2005, 11:51

Alright, I'm in.

I'm gonna be the first alias used by Adam "Edge" Copeland:

Sexton Hardcastle. Hell yeah.

Richard

01/27/2005, 11:05

I am not getting the Rumble this year. First time in a whole LOT of years that I won't see it. I don't see the point because I don't even know who's in it or what its about. I also don't know what the other matches are.

I guess I'm posting this so someone can tell me a good reason to get it. A good match or matches. A good rivalry. Something amazing happening. Just something.

Mr.Heroclix

01/27/2005, 11:07

I wish I could, but it seems like they've found a way to screw up the one event that logically cannot be screwed up. Bahhh...

Richard

01/27/2005, 11:39

This was the one event that I really liked every year by the WWE. I would get it sometimes and not get Wrestlemania! Even when I was a WCW fan I watched the RUMBLE! This time. . . I don't even know what's going on!

Mr.Heroclix

01/27/2005, 15:08

Eh, at least they're priming Batista for the main event. Nice and slow, unlike Lesnar/JBL/Orton/etc...

drgnoftyr

01/28/2005, 12:45

Originally posted by Mr.Heroclix
Eh, at least they're priming Batista for the main event. Nice and slow, unlike Lesnar/JBL/Orton/etc...

who's orton ....

oh you mean that guy they killed off all his heat now they have to show him diamond cutting hhh after every show (off air most of the time) in order to get people to like him.... i remember that kid....

i would of liked to seen a goldberg type run with batista from the begining ... can you imagine good ole jr saying this guy never loses... wow look at the horror .... after every match.....

Mr.Heroclix

01/28/2005, 13:15

Yeah, that might've been cool, but I REALLY like what they're doing with him now. TWO clean wins over Benoit, La Resistance, Jericho...he's being pushed as the unstoppable monster that RAW has needed since they screwed up Kane.

Mr.Heroclix

02/07/2005, 14:18

Incidentally, anyone on here play WWE Raw Deal?

discombobulous

02/07/2005, 14:34

Glad to see more people who agree that Batista is the man!

Mägo de Oz

02/07/2005, 15:32

No, no, no, no, no...

Triple H is the man! Batista is cool but Triple H is better...

Mr.Heroclix

02/08/2005, 09:00

HHH is indeed the man. Best heel in the business, and well on his way to becoming the best heel of all time. Batista, however, is an even rarer breed: a big guy with skill. The guy can move, he can sell, and he can hit like a truck. Batista just plain rules.

hulkamania85

02/08/2005, 15:01

Originally posted by Mr.Heroclix
Incidentally, anyone on here play WWE Raw Deal?

I started collecting the cards last year, but I'm the only one that I know in my area (San Diego) that has any interest. The game is really hard to find here, and I have to order it online.

Anyway, I think HHH is really good, but a little overrated. I also think it is about time he stopped being so dominant in the world title division. He can find other things to do I think.

I think Randy Orton could have had a good title reign had he stayed a heel. I wasn't happy to see Benoit's reign end, but had Orton remained a cocky jerk heel he would have had an interesting reign. But they turned him face way too soon and now their plans for him were kinda botched and they rushed the feud so they can move onto the feud that has been better built up: HHH v. Batista.

I like how this feud has been hinted at the past two months. The best feuds are the ones that are built up for months. I think the Foley/Orton feud was one of the best in recent years because it was built up from June 2003-January 2004, until we saw the payoff at Wrestlemania and Backlash.

I think HHH should drop the title to Batista at Mania. Batista has got a lot of heat right now and they should have it continue by giving him the belt. Cena should win the Smackdown title too. Wrestlemania 20 was about giving the guys who have busted their asses for years what they finally deserved. Wrestlemania 21 should be about pushing the younger guys.

Mr.Heroclix

02/08/2005, 15:46

Hey hulkamania, what foils do you have? Would you be interested in trading foils for clix? I'm looking to start some new decks. Oh, on the topic of Batista, they posted the spoilers for his superstar card on CI.com. He is SICK.

Mägo de Oz

02/08/2005, 16:18

Originally posted by hulkamania85
I started collecting the cards last year, but I'm the only one that I know in my area (San Diego) that has any interest. The game is really hard to find here, and I have to order it online.

me and my older bro have been wanting to play the game but we cant find the cards... only in spanish and we dont want to play it in spanish...

Anyway, I think HHH is really good, but a little overrated. I also think it is about time he stopped being so dominant in the world title division. He can find other things to do I think.

Triple H is the best, sure he's had that title for a long time but he is the one that should have it for now, Yes Benoit, Orton, Bats could be great champs in there own way but Triple is the man to have the belt now... What better to have Bats beat the best in the business to get the belt?

I think Randy Orton could have had a good title reign had he stayed a heel. I wasn't happy to see Benoit's reign end, but had Orton remained a cocky jerk heel he would have had an interesting reign. But they turned him face way too soon and now their plans for him were kinda botched and they rushed the feud so they can move onto the feud that has been better built up: HHH v. Batista.

True, but it wouldn't seem right if Orton was still in Evolution and Triple wasn't the cahmp. How can you have someone else other than Triple be the champ?(in Evolution that is)

I like how this feud has been hinted at the past two months. The best feuds are the ones that are built up for months. I think the Foley/Orton feud was one of the best in recent years because it was built up from June 2003-January 2004, until we saw the payoff at Wrestlemania and Backlash.

I agree, this is probably one of the top feuds in the past few years... Even if I know what's going to happen I've still be watching it...

I think HHH should drop the title to Batista at Mania. Batista has got a lot of heat right now and they should have it continue by giving him the belt. Cena should win the Smackdown title too. Wrestlemania 20 was about giving the guys who have busted their asses for years what they finally deserved. Wrestlemania 21 should be about pushing the younger guys.

Hopefully Bats is the only one to get the belt. I dont think Cena is ready for the belt while he is a good US champ (and it hurts me to say it, I hate Cena) He is not ready to get that belt... Cena is one of the more sloppy and careless wrestlers... But people like him, so he will probably get the belt...

hulkamania85

02/10/2005, 20:05

How I would do Wrestlemania:

Main Event: Raw World Title: HHH(c) . Batista
Winner: Batista
I would want JBL/Cena in the main event, but this has been built up more. Get the title off HHH already and give it to a guy who has a lot of heat now.

Smackdown World Title: JBL(c) v. John Cena
Winner: Cena
Smackdown! has had a heel champ for what will be 9 months by the time Mania happens. At Mania JBL should drop the title to the top face on Smackdown.

Shawn Michaels v. Kurt Angle
Winner: HBK, but either way it will be a hell of a match. Either have it be a inter-promotional match or move HBK to Smackdown so Smackdown has more upper carders.

WWE United States Title:
Orlando Jordan(c) v. Rey Mysterio Jr.
Winner: Rey Jr.
I see Jordan stealing the title from Cena as part of the JBL/Cena feud. The title then goes to Rey Jr., since it is about time he got a title besides the cruiserweight and tag titles.

WWE Cruiserweight Title:
Funaki(c) v. Nunzio v. Paul London v. Kidman v. Spike v. Chavo
Winner: Paul London after last eliminating Funaki. I really like Funaki's push, so I think he should keep the title until Mania where he loses it to who should be an up and coming star, Paul London.

WWE Raw Tag Team Titles:
Regal and Tajiri(c) v. Hassan and Daivari
Winners: Regal and Tajiri.
WWE needs tag teams.

WWE Smackdown Tag Team Titles:
Bashams(c) v. Dudleys
Winners: The Dudleys make their return at Wrestlemania and win the tag straps.

Undertaker and Kane v. Snitsky and Heidenreich
Winners: Taker and Kane

Randy Orton v. Eddie Guerrero v. Booker T.
Winner: Eddie
Another inter promotional match

WWE Intercontinental Title:
Shelton Benjamin(c) v. Benoit v. Jericho v. Rhyno v. Hurricane v. Maven
Winner: Have no idea.

WWE WOmen's Title:
Trish v. Stacy
Winner: Stacy

Inter promortional Diva battle royal:
Christy v. Torrie v. Dawn Marie v. so on and so on.
Winner goes to Raw(if they aren't there already) for a Women's title shot

Mägo de Oz

02/10/2005, 21:47

Originally posted by hulkamania85
How I would do Wrestlemania:

Main Event: Raw World Title: HHH(c) . Batista
Winner: Batista
I would want JBL/Cena in the main event, but this has been built up more. Get the title off HHH already and give it to a guy who has a lot of heat now.

Triple H vs Batista... If they dont change Batista into a face i am happy... I dont care if he gets the belt or not, but i just hope that if he wins they dont change him into a face... (I dont want Orton all over again)

Smackdown World Title: JBL(c) v. John Cena
Winner: Cena
Smackdown! has had a heel champ for what will be 9 months by the time Mania happens. At Mania JBL should drop the title to the top face on Smackdown.

JBL all the way!

Shawn Michaels v. Kurt Angle
Winner: HBK, but either way it will be a hell of a match. Either have it be a inter-promotional match or move HBK to Smackdown so Smackdown has more upper carders.

Angle = Better wrestler and better everything...

WWE United States Title:
Orlando Jordan(c) v. Rey Mysterio Jr.
Winner: Rey Jr.
I see Jordan stealing the title from Cena as part of the JBL/Cena feud. The title then goes to Rey Jr., since it is about time he got a title besides the cruiserweight and tag titles.

Orlando Jordan, Mysterio shouldnt get that belt from Jordan...

WWE Cruiserweight Title:
Funaki(c) v. Nunzio v. Paul London v. Kidman v. Spike v. Chavo
Winner: Paul London after last eliminating Funaki. I really like Funaki's push, so I think he should keep the title until Mania where he loses it to who should be an up and coming star, Paul London.

Nunzio or Chavo, They are the better wrestlers out of all

WWE Raw Tag Team Titles:
Regal and Tajiri(c) v. Hassan and Daivari
Winners: Regal and Tajiri.
WWE needs tag teams.

Regal doesnt have anything else... Hassan is new he should get those belts if the match were to happen.

WWE Smackdown Tag Team Titles:
Bashams(c) v. Dudleys
Winners: The Dudleys make their return at Wrestlemania and win the tag straps.

Dudleys

Undertaker and Kane v. Snitsky and Heidenreich
Winners: Taker and Kane

We all know Taker is not going to lose in Mania...

Randy Orton v. Eddie Guerrero v. Booker T.
Winner: Eddie
Another inter promotional match

Eddie

WWE Intercontinental Title:
Shelton Benjamin(c) v. Benoit v. Jericho v. Rhyno v. Hurricane v. Maven
Winner: Have no idea.

Jericho or Maven, I woul;d like to see what would happen if Maven won it...Though Jericho deserves to be a champion more.

WWE WOmen's Title:
Trish v. Stacy
Winner: Stacy

Trish... better wrestler...

Inter promortional Diva battle royal:
Christy v. Torrie v. Dawn Marie v. so on and so on.
Winner goes to Raw(if they aren't there already) for a Women's title shot

Torrie, that way i can see Torrie on monday nights...