Ultimate Expansion Pics [Archive]

rxkid75

02/26/2004, 00:17

Capt. looks awesome, Doc Ock is cool (though i dont know if he will replace my classic Doc Ock), Spidey is cool looking but I'm kinda gettin tired of even seeing him over and over (and he's my favorite hero) And Wolverine, well i'm not crazy over that wolverine to begin with and the pose kinda looks funny (although I liek the fact that their getting away from standing poses and going for more action oriented ones)

tyroc

02/26/2004, 00:19

It looks like their is going to be a new Ultimate team ability on spidey.

Wolverine has 2 range????? or maybe my eyes are kooky.

DiceShooter

02/26/2004, 00:23

I don't think their prototypes or even like show piece sculpts (with the possible exception of Cap America cuz I can't see his dail). With wizkids show pieces, the dials never have anything on them (like the vast majority of the pics wizkids has on their site from Critical Mass, you can see they don't even have experience rings).

It looks to me like the Spiderman is a low 46 points (if I recall, ultimate Spidey is just a kid or something like that) and as was pointed out no TA (I think that's because the TA is supposed to represent his ability to work with a variety of groups, and the ultimate wouldn't have had time to do that yet.). He also has 1 shot at 4 range.

Wolverine's point total is hidden, but he clearly doesn't have the X-Men TA (maybe to represent him not being part of the team at the very beginning, i really don't know, I haven't read any of Ultimate Xmen), but he has a range of 0 (obvious I know).

Doc Ock (whose sculpt looks fantastic imo, I always prefered the more modern looking Doc to the old classic Doc) appears to have 2 attacks at range 4. His point cost is covered too, and he doesn't appear to have a TA (but to be honest, I don't know how many Ultimates will have TA's other than the Xmen, cuz I don't think many of them have had storyline enough to form some of the teams currently in heroclix, if anyone knows better (ie, you've read the Ultimates), please correct me)

billok55

02/26/2004, 00:23

I'm glad they made these pics official so we dont' get in trouble for talking about them anymore. These pics have been around over a weeks or so, since toyfair in NY. Remember that those bases you see for the figs are just moc ups used by wizkids for photo purposes. Always a good chance that they could be u's.
-=Bill=-

skyounkin

02/26/2004, 00:24

So, ultimate CA who has only really existed in comic time for like maybe a year, (Vol 2 isn't out yet) warrents a REV, maybe I could see that with Spiderman and wolverine but no way for Doc Ock, who showed up in the middle of the series.

BUT that said the figs look great, and on par with some serious fan wants!!

DiceShooter

02/26/2004, 00:24

Correction, upon looking, and reading tyroc's post, it does appear that Wolverine has a range of 2. Ummmmmm, ok?

miridor

02/26/2004, 00:33

I've got to say that I'm looking forward to the new Cap. I couldn't care less for the rest, although Doc Ock does look good.

deathsythe

02/26/2004, 00:36

I can't wait for a new Cap but please include some more Avengers, I need more Avengers.

Desert Ghost

02/26/2004, 00:39

awwwwww..........i messed in my pants, its all oooggie!! :p

skyounkin

02/26/2004, 00:40

Originally posted by deathsythe
I can't wait for a new Cap but please include some more Avengers, I need more Avengers.

DANG STRAIGHT!!!

Namor, Falcon would be at the top o' my list.

Desert Ghost

02/26/2004, 00:43

well maybe i'll finaly get my jamie maddrox with brotherhood TA! well maybe not, but i can dream!

Kid Zero

02/26/2004, 00:43

I'm there, man.

SamuraiWolf

02/26/2004, 00:44

I for one am looking forward to the Ultimates line.
Being a comic fan over the age of forty I have had alot of experience with the classic versions of heros and the Ultimate line is very refreshing.
Cap kicks butt in the Ultimates.
Ironman is great, Thor is Brutal and Hawkeye will be killer.
Blackwidow, Elecktra, Spidey, Giantman(!??!) Wasp, Nick Fury,
Daredevil.........lots to choose from.
To be honest I have very few Indy clix, I read some of the books but alot of the characters I have little intrest in, so I got some singles, never got any boxes.
Ya gotta go with what ya like,
I like the idea of the Ultimates in clix
Really Hope Cap is close to his Ultimate Character, super serum intact.

DemonRS

02/26/2004, 00:47

Originally posted by skyounkin
So, ultimate CA who has only really existed in comic time for like maybe a year, (Vol 2 isn't out yet) warrents a REV, maybe I could see that with Spiderman and wolverine but no way for Doc Ock, who showed up in the middle of the series.

BUT that said the figs look great, and on par with some serious fan wants!!

While I agree cap really only should have maybe a rookie veteran version (WW2 vs. present) I would HATE to see him as a unique, because he was so poorly done in IC that I think we all deserve an updated REV even if it isn't perfect with the ultimate timeline..

skyounkin

02/26/2004, 00:52

Originally posted by DemonRS
While I agree cap really only should have maybe a rookie veteran version (WW2 vs. present) I would HATE to see him as a unique, because he was so poorly done in IC that I think we all deserve an updated REV even if it isn't perfect with the ultimate timeline..

But as brutally efficient as U Cap is imagine running around with an REV version of him:confused: and really how much different are the stats going to be from R-E-V?

I don't think at the time of IC he was done bad but with the release of all other expansions he does pale in comparision to other figs and thus the Real Cap need an upgrade, he does not need to be replaced....But that's me

Rather have an earth X version of Cap. so hopefully maybe U cap will be REV and EX Cap could be a unique like KC Superman!:grin:

That would sooooo rock.

kitsunekaboom

02/26/2004, 00:54

Originally posted by DareDevil_13
Yeah, hopefully he'll have his own super power, kick-Hulk-in-the-junk.

It's called "Exploit Weakness" ;)

As for my thoughts: YAY CAP! Best looking Wolvie I've seen since Logan, and meh on the Oc and Spidey.

flakbait

02/26/2004, 00:55

it looks to me like the cap has a red ring on it, but of course it's hard to tell.

does anybody else hink Incapacitate would be really inappropriate on any of the Ultimate figures (except Spidey)? these guys don't usually pull their punches. just a thought

Kite-Man

02/26/2004, 01:12

Why does everybody hate IC Cap?
He ALWAYS lives for so long when I play him! --well Experienced and Veteran anyway.

Experienced Cap is only 47 points! Give him a couple SHIELD guys and he's great value! Whackin' people from outta nowhere with that shield...
Also:Free movement, Stealth, Leadership and Outwit at the end to be a nuisance? 18 defence from range?

Sounds right to me....

Anyway--the new sculpt is nice.
And Spidey looks cute with the little backpack.

The other two look ugly to me--but I'm old school....

TheBeyonder

02/26/2004, 01:35

Doc.Oc. should not have a full REV set,Unique only cause as stated before he has not been around long enough to represent him in 3 different version.

Spidey Should have an REV,he is the longest running Ultimate character and if any of them get an REV he should.

Rookie-cheap with no TA

Experienced-Spidey TA (who ever said he didn't deserve it in an earlier post I have one question.Ever heard of Ult.Marvel Team-up.He has paired with EVERYBODY)

Veteran-Expensive with no TA

Captain America should also be a Unique.He also has not had a whole lot of time to develop as a character and I just cant see what kind of distinctions you could make between the R,E and Vet.

Now on to Logan.....
He IMHO should be an REV,he is one of the few characters in the Ultimate line that already had a long history when he was introduced.

Rookie-No TA
Experienced-Brotherhood TA
Vet.-Xmen TA

These are just my opinions and could be wrong:rolleyes:

I love the Ultimate books and cant wait for this set......
Especially CAP!

WakandaMan

02/26/2004, 02:00

Really, the Rookie Wolverine should have the Brotherhood TA- he was a member when he was first introduced. Unforutnately, going by this pic Wizkids has already got that wrong. :rolleyes: The E and V should both be X-men

Doc Ock was a member of Ultimate 6 as well (the Ultimate version of the Synister 6). So it would be nice to see the Syndicate TA on one of his versions.

As someone already stated, Spidey has already teamed up with pretty much everyone in the UU (Ultimate Universe ;) ) so he really does deserve the Spidey TA. For once I would like it on BOTH the E and V, but doesn't like like it again. :rolleyes:

Hope Cap is a REV and the scuplts all look great to me!

One last thing- you would think that with all the practice WK has had with clear plastic by now, that they would have made those butt-cones clear instead of white. Just a thought :eek: :p

the itsy bit

02/26/2004, 05:31

Cool !

Spiderman in swing with a backpack, he looks great (except for the cone, but then WK couldn''t make that pose....).

they better have Classic Mysterio,GREEN GOBLIN and Electro though !!
Hydroman would be good too.

grey_zealot

02/26/2004, 06:18

Like the thought of getting another R/E/V of Doc Ock, and as an Ultimate version he should be even more dangerous.

Don't mind Spidey either.

But, is the Ultimate Cap shown an R/E/V or Unique?

grey_zealot

02/26/2004, 06:28

Originally posted by TheBeyonder
Captain America should also be a Unique.He also has not had a whole lot of time to develop as a character and I just cant see what kind of distinctions you could make between the R,E and Vet.

I love the Ultimate books and cant wait for this set......
Especially CAP!

I kinda disagree. WK could still do an R/E/V.

We (the audience) were introduced to Ultimate Cap in Ultimates #1 under-taking his final mission during WW2.

He stated on the plane that the griping Sergeant shouldn't worry, because he'd been doing these covert ops for six years. SIX YEARS.

(I can only hope WK would do a version in the WW2 uniform, though. Probably they didn't.)

I love the Ultimate Cap, too. (And i'm really hoping that didn't sound gay. :noid: )

DemonRS

02/26/2004, 07:03

Originally posted by skyounkin
But as brutally efficient as U Cap is imagine running around with an REV version of him:confused: and really how much different are the stats going to be from R-E-V?

I don't think at the time of IC he was done bad but with the release of all other expansions he does pale in comparision to other figs and thus the Real Cap need an upgrade, he does not need to be replaced....But that's me

Rather have an earth X version of Cap. so hopefully maybe U cap will be REV and EX Cap could be a unique like KC Superman!:grin:

That would sooooo rock.

I agree!
I would love to see an Earth X Cap.. infact I'm currently working on a mod to create him!

Gentlegamer

02/26/2004, 07:34

Does anyone think perhaps the cones represent some kind of new "leaping" base? Perhaps that is a new speed type . . .

FoxInStocks

02/26/2004, 08:24

Originally posted by Gentlegamer
Does anyone think perhaps the cones represent some kind of new "leaping" base? Perhaps that is a new speed type . . .

You know how you hear people say that Spidey or Nightcrawler should be able to carry other figs, but since they don't actually FLY, you can't give them flight stands? I've always said do what they did with the Sentinel: Give them the Flight Symbol, but no flight base. This way, they can do everything a flyer can (which, except for auto-breakaway, would replace Leap/Climb on them and free up the speed slot), EXCEPT go Soaring, which is something Spidey or Nightcrawler really can't do. It would let them taxi, however.

But since Wolverine has one of those new stands, my idea is blown out of the water. C'est la vie. :cool:

AngeHamm

02/26/2004, 08:45

Really, the Rookie Wolverine should have the Brotherhood TA- he was a member when he was first introduced.

Ah, but you neglect to mention Nick Fury's tale of woe in meeting Logan during Operation Desert Storm. There's your R version of Ultimate Wolverine.

Maniac_nmt

02/26/2004, 08:54

Now if only the stats match the pure awesomeness of that Cap sculpt.

GO CAP GO!

Yeti

02/26/2004, 08:56

For all those who say that Doc Ock and Cap America haven't been around in the Ultimates long enough to warrant REV's may I present exhibit A: Rhino. 1 splash page and gets an REV.

I like the "leaping cones" regardless of whether or not they represent any new movement ability. I think it opens the door to a whole new way of sculpting the figures in some actual action poses. That Spider Man pose is perfect for mid swing. Cap looks fantastic.

raphael76

02/26/2004, 08:56

That, or the cone could simply be a leap/climb cone, so that opens up that slot for other powers on that character. That would give spidey the opportunity to have things like stealth, charge, and flurry, all of which could work for him. Although the non-soaring flyer type base would work as well. And you could possibly justify Wolvering having it. Not to mention, if they do Ultimate Hulk, he could definitely have it.

Sandra Wu-San

02/26/2004, 08:56

:tired: Another Marvel set. Nothing new. Another Captain America. Probably a Unique, and another chance to tick off fan boys (or girls). Another Spider Man, and another Wolverine 2 REV wasted on another incarnation. Probably another mass produced set with a few decent figures and the rest with poor sculpts with powers just slapped on there. And people wonder why I only play DC. Great sculpts (And don't throw Supergirl in my face, I know there are exceptions to everything), fairly decent representation of powers to the comic book characters, and everything is not pumped out in mass production. DC designers take time and give their fanboys quality figures of quantity. I for one am not excited about Ultimates.

shin-goji

02/26/2004, 09:01

Now thi sis something I can get excited about! Every one of those figures looks like they are straight out of the comics!

Ed0825

02/26/2004, 09:41

These may be ultimate sculpts, but I think the powers and TA will reflect both "original" and "ultimate" universes. Just look at Rhino. I think doing the ultimate Cap will reflect both universes and you can use him anyway you want.

One question on Cap though since I don't read the Ultimate stuff since it is not the original universe (even though Spidey is tempting). Does this Cap have the wingtips on his mask or not. If not, I am going to have to get a few IC Caps and apply the tips to this one.

EvilGenius

02/26/2004, 09:49

Ahh, nuts to all of you Ultimate freaks! ;)

Unleashed and Kingdom Come will still kick your Ultimate butts!

MUHAHAHA!!

AlgertMan

02/26/2004, 09:54

sculpts are ALOT better than crit.mass

FoxInStocks

02/26/2004, 09:57

Originally posted by AlgertMan
sculpts are ALOT better than crit.mass

ANY sculpt set is better than Critical Mess. I Luuuuuv all four of these sculpts, though. I'll definitely be picking up the Spidey/X-figs from it. Probably Cap, too.

This is assuming their dials are good. :p

Manchine

02/26/2004, 09:57

Originally posted by EvilGenius
Ahh, nuts to all of you Ultimate freaks! ;)

Unleashed and Kingdom Come will still kick your Ultimate butts!

MUHAHAHA!!

MUWHAHAHAHA! Seriously though!

:laugh: :p ;) :laugh: :p ;)

Manchine

02/26/2004, 10:03

Originally posted by AlgertMan
sculpts are ALOT better than crit.mass

Must be looking at something other the Critical Mass becuase the Sculpts were great. Some Paint Jobs had something to be desired! We could just look at the Supergirl if you want to compare paint jobs!

FoxInStocks

02/26/2004, 10:07

Originally posted by Manchine
Must be looking at something other the Critical Mass becuase the Sculpts were great. Some Paint Jobs had something to be desired! We could just look at the Supergirl if you want to compare paint jobs!

Okay...I'll give you that some of the SCULPTS in Crit. Mass were good. But the paint jobs were hideous, without fail. I could show you figure after figure where the paint is smeared from one end to the other.

Don't use Supergirl as an example of anything. We DC fans have already condemned her. Go read the Preview Thread. Believe you me, we already tore her down. ;)

However, back to Marvel...IMHO, these for figs in Ultimates alone make up for ALL the carp paint jobs in Critical Mass.

Manchine

02/26/2004, 10:09

I agree with that!

:laugh: ;) ;) ;) :p :laugh:

WadeDeadpool

02/26/2004, 10:22

Whee!

hornhead

02/26/2004, 10:36

Sweet !

I like the cones - they'll probably be transparent in the finished product.

neworder01

02/26/2004, 10:45

I want to start off by saying that I have never read an Ultimate line book even though that I have collected Marvel books for about 20 years now. I think that it is a laqzy way of getting out of 30+ years of continuity. I understand that these books are good, but why cant these writers do it on the regular universe books? Sorry I digress.
My point is that do we need to do an heavy Ultimate HC expansion, with all the same figures that have aready been done like Wolverine, Spidy, Doc Oct.... Especailly when there are so many regular universe characters to still do. Or you cound do like the new DC set with Kingdom Come and have a set with some Age of Apocalypse figs or something similar.
Also, if the cones are not transparent I think it would look pretty stupid.

Just my opinion.
story line figs

Shenanigans In

02/26/2004, 10:46

I think there shoukld be at least 1 Spider-Man per expansion just because he is Marvel.

This Spidey looks awesome.

btw, Ironically, the sixth member of the Ultimate 6 is Spider-Man. It would be weird seeing him with the Sinister Syndicate TA though, since he wasn't a willing member.

who thinks we might get another U Spidey to be AE with a classic Green Goblin U in this set?

Shenanigans In

02/26/2004, 10:49

please please please give me Ultiamte Black Cat.

darthnader

02/26/2004, 11:03

Am I the only one who thinks the cones should be painted safety orange?

shin-goji

02/26/2004, 11:06

Originally posted by AlgertMan
sculpts are ALOT better than crit.mass
Sculpts are a lot better than Supergirl, too!

shin-goji

02/26/2004, 11:09

Originally posted by Shenanigans In
I think there shoukld be at least 1 Spider-Man per expansion just because he is Marvel.
Wow, you think? Really? Hey, someone should email Jon L about this. That's a good idea.

Nevest

02/26/2004, 11:19

Sculpts look awesome. Rumor has it we'll see some new team abilities and powers in this set too.

WadeDeadpool

02/26/2004, 11:20

Hey, Shin, can I be your minion?

grendelboy

02/26/2004, 11:22

Shin what's the deal here?! You inspire fanatical loyalty in weirdos. Is that your mutant power?

shin-goji

02/26/2004, 11:30

Fanboys flock to me like I'm some kind of celebreity, which I'm not. I find it flattering if not altogether disurbing. Especially since having fanboy otaku gets me nothing :)

Quartermain302

02/26/2004, 11:34

Look it looks so good!!

WHERE's my PUNISHER!

With the movie coming out soon it shound be in there.
(I can always dream) He needs outwit/perplex/RCE/EnergyEXP and willpower.
I want him to go the distance with the #### Superman!!

K-Ness

02/26/2004, 11:47

Where's the posts saying saying things like "Un-what?" and "Boy, this is so much better than Unleashed!"? This whole forum is devoid of them... I'm disappointed.

Acmite

02/26/2004, 11:53

Originally posted by Quartermain302
Look it looks so good!!

WHERE's my PUNISHER!

With the movie coming out soon it shound be in there.
(I can always dream) He needs outwit/perplex/RCE/EnergyEXP and willpower.
I want him to go the distance with the #### Superman!!

And this is why I don't think Punisher should be made. ;)

Why perplex? Why outwit? Punisher isn't smarter than most of his prey...he's much more well-suited to Exploit Weakness, I think.

Outwit N
Perplex N
Exploit Weakness Y
RCE with 1 click of regular damage (a la bullseye) Y
EE Y
Willpower Y
Stealth (first click only) Y

I don't think he should cost more than 50 points in his vet. He's a guy with a gun and willpower.....isn't there a Shield agent that does this?

He's overrated, and can't really hold his own with the big guys (fanboy writers, notwithstanding).

He should be a strong stealth sniper, IMO, that's it.

WadeDeadpool

02/26/2004, 12:01

Acmite-Your points are well taken, and I actually agree with you on more than most, but then again, you have to think about Kraven topping out at 80. My thinking is that Punisher should be like Kraven, only with a gun and grenades instead of knives.

Kite-Man

02/26/2004, 12:07

Nah-I'd give him a click of BCF at the end of his dial.
The Punisher's got knives strapped all over him...

SPLITSECOND

02/26/2004, 12:10

Great news about the Ultimate Cap. The sculpt is very nice. I wish we had stats on him. I can't wait.

NickCarraway

02/26/2004, 12:17

REV Doc Ock on the Ultimate line?

Didn't Spiderman totally school him? My issues show him totally getting his lunch box handed to him after Spiderman took out all the goodies.

But in all seriousness, with the drool factor that Unleashed has with some figs, what Us will Ultimate carry?

Acmite

02/26/2004, 12:38

Originally posted by WadeDeadpool
Acmite-Your points are well taken, and I actually agree with you on more than most, but then again, you have to think about Kraven topping out at 80. My thinking is that Punisher should be like Kraven, only with a gun and grenades instead of knives.

Right, I had forgotten about Kraven. Yeah, I guess with that precedent, he should top off at ~80pts.

Kite-man:

Last click BCF? With like a 6-7 attack value? Might just boost his cost up unnecessarily, but I do like it from a true-to-comics standpoint.

Sweetcurse

02/26/2004, 12:44

and spidey still only has one arrow...:(

dj_sha

02/26/2004, 12:56

I think psychic blast would make more sense on Punisher than Exploit Weaknesses, since Punisher primarily fights at range. I know he has no psychic powers, but it would be the same deal as Taskmaster with the MOD TA, or a Dr. Mid-Nite with Superman Ally TA (hey, it could happen). Other then that, just EE, stealth, willpower, rce, and possibly some outwit or perplex at the end of his dial.

Unrightousness

02/26/2004, 13:29

These look sweet.

clix

02/26/2004, 13:39

those are some sweet figs

theSHOWDOWN

02/26/2004, 13:49

Originally posted by Teletran
What's that with Spidey and Wolverine?

A white cone thing?

Hopefully it's transparent plastic. Otherwise the "white cone thing" will look pretty ridiculous. If it is a white cone thing, I'll probably mod them with shortened flight bases or something.

Doc Ock actually looks like one of the higher-quality DC pieces. Here's hoping that Critical Mass was a hold-over set for Marvel fans while they were gearing up for an incredibly-sculpted Ultimates set. Wow...I'm sooo looking forward to these remakes, I can't even tell you.

But imagine the backlash if Cap is bad!!

Acmite

02/26/2004, 13:57

Originally posted by theSHOWDOWN
But imagine the backlash if Cap is bad!!

I'm not saying there'd be riots at Conventions.....but there'd be riots at conventions.

The first Cap is a travesty. A second poor Cap would be spaz-worthy. It's sad when the most playable version of Cap (E) is the one most out of character for him.

Since IC, I've been waiting for three figures: Doom (CT), Dormammu (CM) and a real Captain America.

A better Dr. Strange would be nice--one a little more focused, less of a rainbow dial.

Acmite

02/26/2004, 14:03

Oh, and I'd be nice if they made a new Hawkeye REV, with Leadership, 2 arrows, and a base 2 damage.

R: Minions of Doom or Sindicate
E: Avengers (West Coast)
V: Avengers (Thunderbolts/Avengers)

chowdah

02/26/2004, 15:23

Hawkeye was also a member of the Defenders too...that would be nice.

Howard d. duck

02/26/2004, 15:50

I think Cap's REV history wise would be like this
Rookie: WW2
Experenced: When he fights the Hulk
Veteran: Skrull buster Cap

TeddyKGB

02/26/2004, 16:00

Why can't I see the pics? I can never see the pics here, but I can on every other site I go to. Anyone help?

Cuz

02/26/2004, 16:25

Wolverine
rookie: Shield ( his little adventure w/ Fury )
exp: Brotherhood
vet: X-Men

I know the shield ability might seem wasted on ol' Wolvie considering that he's close combat... Still I like variation...

Makaveli

02/26/2004, 17:08

Someone a long time ago asked if Ultimate Cap had the wing things on his head, no he does not and IMHO it looks better that way. I agree with Howard D. Duck on Cap, and Cuz, I think rookie Wolvie should have no team. He saved Fury sure, but then he just got shot and caged by the army. He did say Fury busted him out of Weapon X, but I just don't see him with Shield.

I really don't see why Wolvie would have two range. And come one, spidey needs two arrows. I do think this set looks great though, but it's almost torturous, giving us this information this far in advance from the release date. And someone said same ol same ol earlier on. Maybe these figs are same ol', other than Cap, but this is just to generate interest and show some of the interesting sculpts we will be getting. They are no doubt saving the new characters for the previews.

Anywho, can't wait, need money, All Hail Box

postumo

02/26/2004, 17:21

Ok, but what is this?
Are they redoing all the stuff? ok, if they're doing everyone again, i think they're cheating us, i mean, ok, a new rule that doesn't let you use your old clix after 2 years and now they start making everyone again? this is some kind of heroclix 2,0 of course and it stinks

Makaveli

02/26/2004, 17:29

Well the new rule isn't in effect yet and honestly they said they expected to do it with HeroClix but they didn't say for sure that they would. So who knows maybe they won't. And remakes of characters that don't need it will be stupid if they do that, but the ultimate versions of a lot of these characters could really help the game. Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye, etc. The set is rumored to be half ultimates and half not so there should still be a number of figures to appeal to the Ultimate haters and those who don't wish to have so many repeat characters.

postumo

02/26/2004, 17:39

octopus doesn't need re-doing

hbenton

02/26/2004, 17:45

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but just wanted to comment.
Wow, that Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate Cap look fantastic!!
Makes me wonder if a Ultimates TA might be coming soon and how many other Ultimate figs might sneak around.
Like Ultimate Venom among many others.

dj_sha

02/26/2004, 18:01

Half Ultimates? I think that would be over doing it, since we still need a lot of regular versions of some characters. I'd hate to have an Ultimate Electro instead of the ordinary one (same would go for Green Goblin, but U Rhino was close enough to MU Rhino). Hope we get a Giant Man ala Bat Sentry.

EJS

02/26/2004, 18:13

I think Giant Man will be in it.

NickCarraway

02/26/2004, 18:52

here's your REV Doc Ock

R-sculpt with him in his underoos after Spidey schools him
E-sculpt as shown
V-Him after he gets his head handed to him by the Ultimates

Zap Rowzdower

02/26/2004, 18:58

Ghost Rider is in the set. The '90s version. Oh it's true, it's #### true!

And Howard The Duck unique w/ Defenders t.a.would be cool! He'd have close combat expert because of his Quack-Fu!

And how about Dracula:Lord of Vampires? Just imagine what his clix would look like! Mastermind, mind control,phasing, super strength, steal energy, impervious, regeneration.....

specialty dish

02/26/2004, 19:06

I'm in the same problem as the other guy, is there a way to find a link to these pictures outside of here because HCRealms is the only website in the history of internet that loads like tortoise turds on my comp.

wolfwood13

02/26/2004, 19:21

finally the new FF: Spidey, Mr. Fixit, Logan and now ghost rider, i've waited sooo long.

CyberVenom

02/26/2004, 19:27

I have to admit, while I'm not a fan of the Ultimate Universe at all, these figures do, indeed, look pretty darn spiffy. Nice scuplts, nice paint jobs, and that Cap figure just screams "I'm ready for action!".

Puuka

02/26/2004, 19:36

Originally posted by Cuz
Wolverine
rookie: Shield ( his little adventure w/ Fury )
exp: Brotherhood
vet: X-Men

I know the shield ability might seem wasted on ol' Wolvie considering that he's close combat... Still I like variation...

Actualy, give him charge and you have a good body guard for a ranged attacker

rxkid75

02/26/2004, 20:01

Everyone keeps knockin Ultimate Doc Ock, but lets face it he's in here because of the Spiderman movie. True I dont know if that warrants R/E/V treatment but I think I would rather see that than him take up a Unique Slot, not too sure as if he isnt unique I'll prolly pull a dozen of his rookies

Nexodus

02/26/2004, 20:52

this set will either have the Avengers Team Ability, or perhaps a new team Ability. Ultimates!!!.....OMG GIANTMAN!!!
Or the Ultimate Six!!!!

my only quip with it is are we just getting Ultimate Characters? @.o cause I'd still like to see alot more people from the regular universe. I guess they could do Punisher normally cause there isnt any real difference between the 2..... Iron Fist and Luke Cage and Baron Zemo(PLEAESEWIZKIDS!!!) would be awesome..if they have an Ultimate Electra I'll be ticked off. but other then that, wow.

Maniac_nmt

02/26/2004, 21:11

Right, I had forgotten about Kraven. Yeah, I guess with that precedent, he should top off at ~80pts

except that Kraven has enhanced physical capabilities (strength, speed, endurance, stamina, reflexes, etc). Kraven warrants his dial because that's how he was in the comics, a total bad###. Leaping as far as spidey does, tackling the most savage men and beasts with his bear hands, etc.

The outwit goes with all the toxins and what not he used to run arround with. He was always showing up with something to 'outwit' something of spidey's, usually multiple powers at one time.

After all he did 'kill' spidey and run arround in a spidey suit, making everyone think he was spidey (so you know his physical capabilities are pretty awesome).

Anyways, enough on that. IT'S CAPTAIN F'ING AMERICA!!!! DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER REASON TO BUY THIS SET??? NO!!

Keep your kingdom come, if that Cap is even half as good as Cap is in comics, then he's worth the price of admission alone. WOOT!!!

Nexodus

02/26/2004, 21:14

about the Punisher. he would have outwit. heres my example of how smart he is.
I was reading a fight between him with Wolverine. he had arleady blown off the skin from Logans face with a shotgun. anyway, Frank Castle was picking up a Wooden Baseball bat when Logan was taunting him, and when Logan dove for him, Punisher Smacked logan, not in the head, but the Family Jewels. Logan was down. No Healing Factor could stop that pain fast:P and then Punisher proceeded to douse Logan with Kerosene to set him on fire but they were attacked by a group of thugs and they teamed up :P

there you go, Punisher with Outwit

but imagine if we got the Punisher from "Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe!" that would be messed up :P

wolfwood13

02/26/2004, 22:07

that's not outwit, sorry it's just not, unfortunatly there's no power called cheapshot, but maybe exploit weakness, but i don't think the punisher should have either. a punisher fig probably should look more like nick fury w/o the outwit

EJS

02/26/2004, 23:04

Can anyone see if Cap is an REV or U?

sluggo

02/26/2004, 23:54

If its a whole set of Ultimate Characters we'll get a set that looks something like this

Ultimates - Cap. Thor, Ironman, "Black" Fury, Wasp, Giantman, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch. Shield soliders/agents, Aliens warriors and Alien invasion leader.

U X-Men - Prof X, Cyclops, Wolverine, Marvel Girl, Colossus (a MUCH more powerful one), Iceman, Storm, Beast, Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Angel, and Rogue. Magneto,Brotherhood Mutant Animal soliders, Blob, Sabertooth w/claws.

U Spiderman - Spider-man, Kraven, Doc. Ock., Shocker, Rhino, Venom, Sandman. Electro, Kingpin, Black Cat, Elektra

U FF - Mr. Fantastic, IG, Human Torch, Thing, Doom, Mole Man

U Daredevil - Daredevil (both adult and school), Elektra.

Kite-Man

02/27/2004, 05:33

V IC Cap is playable!! There's nothing wrong with him! I use him all the time!!

Dr. Morbius

02/27/2004, 05:56

Originally posted by wolfwood13
that's not outwit, sorry it's just not, unfortunatly there's no power called cheapshot, but maybe exploit weakness, but i don't think the punisher should have either. a punisher fig probably should look more like nick fury w/o the outwit

If anything...the punisher should have RCE!
Anyone remember that comic where he double-shot both of Spidey's web-jets, while falling off a building in reverse position???
The only other character who could pull that of would prolly be Hawkeye...but that's about it!!!

I know Cyke couldn't do it and he's got RCE!

Rocket Ranger

02/27/2004, 06:06

Hey, Sluggo, I believe the Ultimates set is rumored to be half'n half...twenty slots for Ultimate Universe characters, and twenty slots for regular Marvel Universe characters. If that is indeed the case, assume we'll see about 4-6 Ultimates, 4-6 Ultimate X-men, 4-6 Spidy related characters, 4-6 other characters like Fury, POSSIBLY Fantastic 4 or villains like Magneto or possibly Ultimate inspired generics. Now, the hard part: try to figure out which ones will make the cut.:)

As for the question of the Punnisher's possible cost, it'll be somewhere between 50-80 depending on how much the designers like the character or how they think he translates into clix. Personally, I don't think he should cost more than any of the Dardevil clix, or really not any more than other fairly "normal" human superheroes like Black Panther, Moon Knight, Black Widow, Captain America, etc., most of whom should be able to take Frank in a fight. But, that's just my opinion of the character. I think he could have a very useful dial and would be more so if around 50pts., but he's just not anywhere near Batman's level and doesn't deserve to be in the same point range. Captain America, on the other hand, could and probably should have been up there with Bats. Maybe Cap's Ultimate version will be.

DavrosRTS

02/27/2004, 10:41

Ultimates... Tee Hee Hee Must have them....

Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates. Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates. Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates. Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates.Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates. Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates. Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates.Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates.Must Have Ultimate Nick Fury, Ultimate War Sentinals and Ultimates.

WarHULK

02/27/2004, 10:55

Cap., Thor, Ironman, Giantman, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye.

Prof X, Wolverine, Marvel Girl, Storm, Nightcrawler. Magneto, Blob.

Spider-man, Doc. Ock., Electro, Kingpin, Elektra.

Nick Fury.

I think the break down will look something like this for the Ultimates half of the set. We have to remember how much earlier these sets are made in relation to their release so I doubt that U Fantastic Four or any figures related to them will come out. I also doubt we'll see U Black Cat for the same reasons. We might see a new Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch to help fill out the Ultimate Brotherhood and to give them a little more "oomph".

Cardiac

02/27/2004, 12:29

Originally posted by WarHULK
Cap., Thor, Ironman, Giantman, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye.

Prof X, Wolverine, Marvel Girl, Storm, Nightcrawler. Magneto, Blob.

Spider-man, Doc. Ock., Electro, Kingpin, Elektra.

Nick Fury.

I think the break down will look something like this for the Ultimates half of the set. We have to remember how much earlier these sets are made in relation to their release so I doubt that U Fantastic Four or any figures related to them will come out. I also doubt we'll see U Black Cat for the same reasons. We might see a new Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch to help fill out the Ultimate Brotherhood and to give them a little more "oomph".

I think we will get a new FF based on the chat transcript's assertion that there would never be a time when a player couldn't play the FF in a fully legal tournie. CT will probably be retired the day this set is released, therefore new FF.

predator322

02/27/2004, 12:39

Wow these look awsome but i have seen more for this set

i cant remember where but i saw a picture of the galactus fig in a display case and behind him was ultimate boosters and on the side of one you could clearly see
ghost rider on his bike doin a wheelie.

(the wolverine sculpt looks kind of dumb)

zeppelined

02/27/2004, 13:21

Cool, I can't wait to buy less of this set than usual, sell the silly "ultimate" figures, and then get normal Marvel figures instead.

olcottr

02/27/2004, 13:32

They should make a different team ability for the Ultimates. Besides the "hey look, another free move ability, yawn"

sluggo

02/27/2004, 15:19

I like the Half-and-half thing, means I dont have to buy the whole set.

Though I think we might just see one Ultimate TA (kinda like Kingdom Come) rather then an Ultimates TA, U X-Men TA etc.....

And considering Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch were part of the Brotherhood and are part of the Ultimates, I'm pretty sure we'll get them. I'd also bet Sabertooth and Wasp will be in the set.

DreadDormammu

02/27/2004, 15:26

Originally posted by WarHULK
Prof X, Wolverine, Marvel Girl, Storm, Nightcrawler. Magneto, Blob.Beast deserves to be in before Nightcrawler, but it would be nice to have an REV Nightcrawler for sure.

I want Ultimate Hawkeye more than any other Ultimate. Maybe get some extras and do mods with the classic Hawkeye sculpt.

Nevest

02/27/2004, 16:15

I don't understand why so many people are against the Ultimates figures being done in clix. If nothing else just look at it as an opportunity for them to redo some figures that have been messed up in the past like Cap, Iron Man, etc.

Dr. Morbius

02/27/2004, 16:27

I love the idea of half Ultimate/half regular Universe!!
So I only have to collect the regular Universe half....means less trouble and less money :)

RangedCombatEx

02/27/2004, 16:38

Going back to the Punisher, I'm a fan and think he should have a healthy dose of RCE, EE, with some stealth and maybe willpower thrown in. I know some think he should have outwit and I can understand the arguement but think if Frank gets outwit, it should be on his last click only. I think Enchancement is a possibility too but I think he should be a very useful 50 point figure.

And Ultimate Cap looks cool as hell!

sluggo

02/27/2004, 20:33

Dr. Morbius - Tell you what. I'll send you all the regular Marvel U guys I get, you send me all the Ultimate Marvel guys you get.

006

02/29/2004, 13:09

Originally posted by Rando
Those are some good lookin sculpts, I hope there is a classic green goblin, that way we can have a double Green goblin, double Doctor Octopus team.

no.
At our venue and with all our friends we always play all characters unique, so as to avoid a board with logan, wolverine, patch and weaponx all on a team. just seems more real to life this way, no names u can have dupes.

just makes since