DC HeroClix Unleashed Sneak Peek - Mr.Bones

[Draddog]

<P ALIGN="CENTER"><IMG SRC="/images/unleashed/un092.jpg"><P><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Mr. Bones</B><BR><B>Unit Num:</B> 092<BR><B>Point Cost:</B> 80<BR><B>Team:</B> Police<BR><B>Sculptor/Painter:</B> Steve Saunders<P><B>Design Note</B><BR>The enigmatic Mr. Bones is a villain turned bureaucrat. Formerly a member of the Infinity, Inc. villain team, Helix, Mr. Bones now runs the DEO, and no one is sure if that’s a good thing. This version of Mr. Bones is as the head of the DEO, so he has some offensive and leadership abilities. Each of his six clicks has Poison to reflect his cyanide touch, but he also has Mastermind and a mix of Leadership, Outwit, and Exploit Weakness. His attack is 8, but with Poison he doesn’t really need to attack – he just needs to be next to an opponent to cause damage. His first click has Leadership, so at the start of the game you may be able to use that extra action to maneuver either Bones or one of his teammates. After the first click, he gains two clicks of Outwit, which will definitely make him a strong support piece for his underlings. As with any character with Mastermind and the Police team ability, you’ll want to keep some friendly characters around him to get the most use out of those abilities. Near the end of his dial he has some Exploit Weakness; this is when Mr. Bones actually starts fighting back – and he fights dirty, so his opponent is going to get hurt by the Poison–Exploit Weakness combo.

[four_winds]

Cool sculpt

[berniealonge]

Yeah, he'll see alot of play. 8 AV, really.

[four_winds]

Hes like a better red skull.

[oogie56]

I'm not real familiar with this guy, but he seams like a giant waste of 80 points. Its a nice mold and looks cool, but he doesn't seem like much playwise.

[Manchine]

Who????

Another Unique I dont want!

[Ghost_Rider_92]

80 points for 1 damage of poison or mastermind? psshh

I'll get him for the sculpt, but not for play

[4est]

I thought exploit weakness was only for an attack. If not then the posion/exploit combo seems interesting.

Cool sculpt. But so far he seems to be the only low calibre unique.

[DaLuvster89]

Why do I have the feeling I'll pull 4 of this guy in my case? :(

[superfriend]

This confirms another one. One I am personally not very interested in. Boring character, boring team (DEO), boring concept.

[kitsunekaboom]

I like Mr. Bones as a character and all (though I think he would have looked cooler in his old costume) but uhm, unimpressed with the figure, he would be fun to play with at least but I like Nick Fury better.

[Superego Lad]

Are you kidding? I play Whitney Frost all the time for some of the same powers and she's stuck with an 8AV. Admittedly she has stealth on her first click. The big question is whether or not he will have a ranged attack.

[shin-goji]

Mr. Who?

[Doomtoy]

Well, booger.

I was hoping he'd be an REV. That suit and body would make sweet conversion material... *sigh*...

[thugit]

Sweet!!!!


You guys do realize that not every figure has to have huge attack and damage ratings, right?


Poison with Mastermind and outwit is very cool, and at 80 points, there are PLENTY of good options for mastermind fodder.... Grundy, Swamp Thing, etc....

I for one am GLAD to see some diversity in the set!

[Sandra Wu-San]

Well, never heard of him. Nice sculpt though. He'll see zero play most likely. I can get Cheaper Leadership and outwit from R Aquaman and E Deathstroke and they have better AV and more options. :tired:

[lukebuchanan]

Originally posted by four_winds
Hes like a better red skull.

You've got to be kidding. I'll take the Red Skull anyday for about 30 points or so less.

Luke B. Skully

[bluebeetle]

hello lex luther

[VampireHunterD]

hey its white skull!!! double the points double the fun!

Sculpt looks awesome though... has anyone actually ever heard of this character?

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[JacinB]

I'm glad to see that there are going to be some Uniques in this set that I could actually do without.

I mean, he looks like he could be moderately playable with his range of powers, except for his low Attack value. If his dial stays steady and is at least somewhat lenghty, he might be alright.

I don't know that he'll be worth 80pts. (actually, unless his dial is pretty long, I don't see how he possibly could be), but he might be okay if used on a theme team or whatnot.

[green_knight]

Why do they keep giving high point DC characters WORTHLESS attack values? Who would play this guy, or rookie Dr Fate? I'm sick of this. No wonder the same figs constantly see play. When you can have Deathstroke and Aquaman both on your team for the cost of this guy, it guarantees he'll never see use. Meanwhile Hepzibah, Corsair, and nearly everyone else in Critical mass got a 9 or 10 attack with good damage or willpower. DC keeps getting cheated on usefulness.

As a DC fan I'm getting really tired of using the same teams, because it would be STUPID to use anything else, given the choices we have. Come on Wizkids.....Batman with a 9 attack, Plastic Man with a 10!?!?! And Even though Metallo looks sweet, who would waste the points on him?

I'm known as a DC zombie, or whatever, and I'm just irritated beyond words about this, and Matches Malone. Who wants to spend the huge points on HIS attack value and defense? You might as well give the points to your opponent.

The number of figs in this set I'm looking forward to seems to have topped out with their first couple of previews.

[Dzilla]

I like that. "A better Red Skull." I guess they have to make useless figs like this so we can tell the difference with a good fig. It is true too, you will pull 5 of these compared to Batman. a lot of people pull Parasite, Com. Gordon, Lex Luthor, etc. Yet they claim the distribution on uniques are the same. meaning there are the same amount of Supermans as opposed to Lex Luthor. Bah!!

[theSHOWDOWN]

They just couldn't resist giving us another Brother Blood/Lex Luthor type unique. Why can't DC just make all the uniques as good as CM's?

[VampireHunterD]

way i see it it's basically a hybrid of red skull and joker, with the new exploit weakness thrown in there. Why would anyone use this guy again? with red skull he's cheap for the poison mastermind combo, for joker you get an expensive mastermind outwit poison combo (vet) and batman enemy so at least you can share attack value to make him be able to hit someone with his fishy's. someone said it earlier, he shoudl have been an rev simply for teh fact that his sculpt would be usefull for many mods.

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[Rando]

bleh, another terrific looking unique with what sounds like limited playability, which has been every unique for this set so far in my opinion. I'd take Whitney Frost over this guy any day, stealth to keep mastemind from going away and outwit instead of leadership, and a range. Well at least he is good looking instead of being not very playable and hideous.

[freakazoid_x]

Finally a "nobody" character that I really really like.

[bluebeetle]

Originally posted by JacinB
I'm glad to see that there are going to be some Uniques in this set that I could actually do without.

I mean, he looks like he could be moderately playable with his range of powers, except for his low Attack value. If his dial stays steady and is at least somewhat lenghty, he might be alright.

I don't know that he'll be worth 80pts. (actually, unless his dial is pretty long, I don't see how he possibly could be), but he might be okay if used on a theme team or whatnot.
he has 6

[berniealonge]

It's Luthor with his face peeled off.

[Greenandgold]

I'm just not seeing much out of this set that I am interested in outside of the big KC uniques.

[SumYungGai]

Wow, the inheritor to the grand tradition of Commisioner Gordon and Lex Luthor. Hopefully his AV spikes when he hits his exploit weakness clicks.

Prediction for the next DC set; an Amanda Waller unique with Mastermind, Outwit, Leadership, and the Suicide Squad team ability. She will have a 5MV, 7 AV, 14 DV, 1 damage, 1 arrow and 4 range.

[dherberger]

Without Stealth he is not playable. Keep hitting him from range. you could even outwit mastermind and kill him easily on one turn with 2 ranged attacks

[Supes]

I think we've met Red Skull and Lex Luthor's illegitimate love child.

Totally bummer of a day. Two horribly hard high level (Calc III and up) math exams and then I get to the computer and see this is the preview figure.

Some days it just doesn't help to get out of bed.

Wizkids... why do you hate DC so? No seriously why? You have complete control over this figure. You could have made him good or bad based on his character and you obviously went with bad. Oh so he doesn't have to attack since he has Poison.... yeah whatever. Figures with toughness and up will laugh at him. Sure he gets outwit, but I'm pretty sure he'll get beaten up. Everybody forgets that Quake is coming. I see Quake killing mastermind.

You quake a mastermind figure and their MM fodder will go flying 4 squares away. Well depending on the timing.

That's a good question actually. You quake a figure with MM and they have a fodder figure that gets hit as well. Does the fodder figure get his 2 damage plus the 2 from MM and get knocked away for 4 or does the fodder get knocked away for 2 and is now out of range of MM so the MM figure has to take 2? I'm assuming the first but just curious.

Um anyway. Figure stinks. Bunch of powers that are cool, but not in this combination. Or with that attack value. And I fear he won't have a range as he has Exploit Weakness... a CC power.

[MeatLoafX]

I'm all for interesting pieces like this. I don't know how effective this piece will be, but I'm glad they try. I really grew to like the whitney frost LE this past week and he seems similar, though much more expensive.

I'll wait to see how he plays out. 8 AV sucks, but if he's on a PD team you'll get a 9 or 10 most of the time.

At least he doesn't have incapacitate, right?

[dherberger]

I might team him up with Brotherblood and Lex Luthor.





.........in my DC dustiest figures game

[DS-00-0, FSD]

WK will need to update the FAQ:

COLOR=red]Mr. Bones Unleashed #092: When this figure on your force be, talk in rhyme for all to see. He may not be full of power, but he might last for nearly an hour.[/COLOR]

Man, I used to love Infinity Inc.

[shin-goji]

Man, that figure doesn't look anything like Snoop Doggy Dogg [score one for the obscure refrence of the day!].

[thespiderfly]

Although he is low on playability, he looks totally rad. I never read Infinity Inc, but he's been pretty cool in the more recent DC stuff. I still wonder what his big plans for the JSA are.

[wonderboy]

He looks like an expesive Red Skull. I think this unique will be in the shadow of all the other cool Kingdom Come uniques. Oh well, not every unique can be spectaular.:disappoin

[chi_madnes]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Man, that figure doesn't look anything like Snoop Doggy Dogg [score one for the obscure refrence of the day!].

heh


was that movie any good...... I love rap, but I just refuse to watch movies where the main character is played by a rapper :laugh:

[jesse1111]

he looks like the Gentlemen from buffy.

[AlgertMan]

never expected him, to be in the set

but i love this guy, he rocks in the comics

but, as a clix, i don know, i'll just have to see his whole dial to see

[Jackygobang]

I'm kinda... disappointed. I was hoping for someone cool, like Two-face or The General, not some dude i've lever heard of.

[Nevest]

I've been working on a new theme night idea. Build the worst 300 point team possible. No doubles, no generics. Then each round you give your opponent the team you built and they give you theirs. This guy sounds like he might be a candidate.

The sculpt is nice looking though.

[tyroclix]

That's a good question actually. You quake a figure with MM and they have a fodder figure that gets hit as well. Does the fodder figure get his 2 damage plus the 2 from MM and get knocked away for 4 or does the fodder get knocked away for 2 and is now out of range of MM so the MM figure has to take 2? I'm assuming the first but just curious.

It will probably be similiar to Pulse-Wave and normal knock-back rules.

Damage is given out first - 2 to the fodder and 2 from Mastermind. Then knockback - so the fodder would be knocked back for 4 since Masterminded knockback is included with damage.

[Hatut Zeraze]

Maybe he won't see that much play. So what! Not every piece has to be a monster. Monsters lose their definition if we get nothing but that. With Shazam, KC Supes, KC Wonder Woman, Black Adam, and Metallo, we've got plenty of big AV, DV, and Dmg.

I'm a HUGE DC fan, and I'll be happy to get this piece if he shows up in my case. It appeals to the DC collector in me, if not the power gamer. I admit he's not one of the ones I'm dying to get in this set, but I'd rather have him than about a quarter of the characters from Critical Mass.

Oh, and to all of you who haven't heard of Mr. Bones, you should try to track down some of his appearances as the head of the DEO. He's not really a combatant anymore, but an administrator. This might sound a little boring, but you should see the way he's portrayed. He's 200% creepy and he gives off this aura of suspicion and foreboding that is normally reserved for master super villians (Ras al Ghul, Mandarin, Grodd, and yes, even the Red Skull). I think most of you would like him.

[Heretic]

Originally posted by JacinB
I'm glad to see that there are going to be some Uniques in this set that I could actually do without.

I mean, he looks like he could be moderately playable with his range of powers, except for his low Attack value. If his dial stays steady and is at least somewhat lenghty, he might be alright.

I don't know that he'll be worth 80pts. (actually, unless his dial is pretty long, I don't see how he possibly could be), but he might be okay if used on a theme team or whatnot. Says his dial is 6 clicks. FYI.

[esfoad]

Poison that will eat through damage reduction? Bring it. Sounds to be another great combo of powers too. I love these strategy pieces.

[lukebuchanan]

Don't know why all of you "DC Zombies" are going nuts. A figure is made to play in the context of that universe, and in DC the attack values are a bit lower than Marvel. An 8's an average, AVERAGE AV value. We also don't know how long he'll keep it, whether or not he has range, what his damage is, movement...........a lot. And I'll admit at first glance this guy looks like 80 points for the other team if they have outwit and a ranged shooter, but at least wait until we see the wheel.

Luke B. Mystified

[thugit]

Originally posted by dherberger
Without Stealth he is not playable. Keep hitting him from range. you could even outwit mastermind and kill him easily on one turn with 2 ranged attacks


Thank you, Mr. Obvious.


Y'know, that Despero is really cool, but if you outwit his Impervious and shoot him with Firelord, Bullseye and a Hand Ninja, you can kill him in one turn.

[dernjg]

You know, six clicks and a low AV don't normally equal 80 points. PD team ability is cheap, and mastermind and EW don't seem to add to much to the cost pudding.
Sure, leadership and poison are expensive, but not 80-point expensive.
Chances are, we're looking at a fairly beefy defense (since I don't see the range, damage or speed being that fast). And the chance to use Swamp Thing as a damage battery? Nice.
His only flaw is that outwit can strip his MM away. Too bad there's no stealth.

Oh, and poison isn't really only one click of damage. If played properly, it's 3-7 clicks of damage, and all with taking an action. Free damage, Woot!

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by chi_madnes
heh


was that movie any good...... I love rap, but I just refuse to watch movies where the main character is played by a rapper :laugh:

That movie was CRAZY good. It was a really great horror flick and I reccommend it.

[Heretic]

Originally posted by MeatLoafX
I'm all for interesting pieces like this. I don't know how effective this piece will be, but I'm glad they try. I really grew to like the whitney frost LE this past week and he seems similar, though much more expensive.

I'll wait to see how he plays out. 8 AV sucks, but if he's on a PD team you'll get a 9 or 10 most of the time.

At least he doesn't have incapacitate, right? The PD team ability gives an adjacent figure a +1 to their ranged attack, it doesn't do anything for the PD figure unless you have another PD figure adjacent, assuming I am reading you correctly. FYI.

[Acmite]

Originally posted by lukebuchanan
Don't know why all of you "DC Zombies" are going nuts. A figure is made to play in the context of that universe, and in DC the attack values are a bit lower than Marvel. An 8's an average, AVERAGE AV value. (snip)

Not in the new world order of Open Tournaments. All figures now must be looked at in terms of all existing heroclix figures.

By the looks of it (unfortunately), Open tournaments (Open Restricted, actually) will become the most prevalent tournament type offered by WizKids.

[MeatLoafX]

Yeah, I worded that funny. I meant to imply that if he was running with other PD members, his attack would be higher. (i.e. he may be fun on an all-PD team)

[The Sandman]

IMHO After all is said and done, I would rather a character be accurately potrayed than be playable because this is based on comics and the characters I like.

[AlgertMan]

you MARVEL fanboys are realy showing how stupid you are, with stuff outside of MARVEL

and remember, if dont type MARVEL in all caps, they will sue you

[Aron]

Originally posted by Hatut Zeraze
Maybe he won't see that much play. So what! Not every piece has to be a monster. Monsters lose their definition if we get nothing but that. With Shazam, KC Supes, KC Wonder Woman, Black Adam, and Metallo, we've got plenty of big AV, DV, and Dmg.

Uh I don't think Metallo will have much DV or AV. :/

[billok55]

I'm actually happy its not a flying uber powerful high points figure....
Whats funny is everyone complains about undercosted super powerful figures, then when wizkids makes some that aren't useable in all situation they complain...

I'm still happy with this set and can't wait to get my hands on it.

-=Bill=-

[Ed0825]

Originally posted by green_knight
Why do they keep giving high point DC characters WORTHLESS attack values? Who would play this guy, or rookie Dr Fate? I'm sick of this. No wonder the same figs constantly see play. When you can have Deathstroke and Aquaman both on your team for the cost of this guy, it guarantees he'll never see use. Meanwhile Hepzibah, Corsair, and nearly everyone else in Critical mass got a 9 or 10 attack with good damage or willpower. DC keeps getting cheated on usefulness.


I'm not for set retirement. But what you stated right here is a huge arguement for it, unfortunately.

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by AlgertMan
you MARVEL fanboys are realy showing how stupid you are, with stuff outside of MARVEL

and remember, if dont type MARVEL in all caps, they will sue you

It's not the DC Zombies, nor the Marvel fanboys, nor even the Indy cultists which bother me so much. It's the fanatical purists in general that generate so much friction.

[Aron]

Is it just me or is this sculpt different than the one we saw in snapshots we saw before from Toyfair?

I was sure I saw a Mr. Bones with a Top Hat and a cape/high collar?

[Thunderbolts]

Look, it's the Beta Ray Bill of Unleashed. Except Mr. B isn't quite a carbon copy of Skull/Fury/Joker.

Sorry Critical Mass, you still lose.

[Frontman]

Ok,

Great that the did this character, but man, couldn't they do his classic costume? This is the first figure I've been disappointed in from Unleashed.

BUT, to all those who don't want him, if I don't get him, I'll take him.

Sure, he's low AV, but being police, plus a poisoner, not something you need to really have a high # on.

At least I got to see him on the front page of HCRealms. Now, for WK to release another 6 or so needless Heroclix related press releases.....

The Frontman

[Ghost_Rider_92]

Can someone show me where in the rule changes that poison goes through defenses (toughness, Inv, and Imp?)

No?

Thanks that clears THAT up...

When I play, Iusualy ply to battle, not to see who can build the purty-est team on the board. Therefore 80 points for a figure with 6 clicks and nothing to benefit from isn't what I have in mind.

Nothing like having your opponent having SOD supes smash him once and get an instant 80 points and then laughs at you while you jibber jabber.

[EvilGenius]

You guys need to relax a bit. Haven't you really ever looked at PD and Hydra members? A LOT of them have lower Attack Values because they often run with other Hydra or PD pieces. So they can get a nice bump for ranged attacks. :rolleyes:

I'm looking forward to this figure. And all of you people who bemoan the fact that he doesn't have a high Attack Value or too deap a dial, just you wait until I use Vampire Batman to fly Mr. Bones up to your nice little IG/ESD formation, and use Barrier to block LOS from your Outwitter. We'll see how you like it then. :devious: :laugh:

[Frontman]

And I can't believe that I have to agree with Shin-jo on something. Comic book purists who can't give props to other fans books need to take and relax. I'm glad they did Mr. Bones, but I'm disappointed that he isn't in his original costume. But what I can't stand is folks who are going to go nuts that they don't know Mr. Bones, DC stinks, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I might have my problems with MARVEL Heroclix in the marketing, but I don't have a problem with a MARVEL-ite being excited that Nova or Moondragon got made.

The Frontman

[The Charlatan]

Originally posted by Aron
Is it just me or is this sculpt different than the one we saw in snapshots we saw before from Toyfair?

I was sure I saw a Mr. Bones with a Top Hat and a cape/high collar?

I suspect that that was the Shade, not Mr Bones.

[theLex]

Whoo-hoo!

As a huge fan of Chase and the DEO, I'm excited to see that we not only get Cameron Chase, but also Bones! Yay! Now, all we need are Knigh####ch soldiers (I guess Checkmate are close).

[robot_100]

How much does Exploit Weakness skill increase point value by?

By this figure it looks like it is worth alot. Why else would he be worth so much?

Also, there is a picture of Kilowog heroclix in Inquest Gamer 108. I know this may be the wrong place to post this, but he looks cool.
Like Beta Ray of CM.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

I like the scult a lot. I like that they did his suit-and-tie look. I hated Mr Bones back in the Infinity Inc days, but liked him as a spoorting character since.

But...

80 points!? I need to know what he can do for 80 points. Poison makes sense, but to represent how deadly it is, I hope he also gets a decent damage value. And for heaven's sake, range.

He does look very vulnerable-- I wish they'd have skipped the leadership and gone straight for the Outwit.

[TheLion]

I haven't kept up with Mr. Bones since Inifinty Inc. but this looks like a decent figure.

Of course, I haven't been poisoned by the tournament play mindset.

[Horus]

One thing we should look at with Mr. Bones is this:
We are obviously getting D.E.O. figs as generics!
Like Easy Co. and Sgt Rock in Cosmic Justice D.E.O is the generic person of this set and that just like Easy Co. is so cool!
I look forward to pulling thsi fig and using him because I know I'll make him useful.

[clixer11]

Where is the info on 6 clicks coming from? I'm missing something. One click of Leadership, two more of Outwit, and then "near the end of his dial he gets <some> Exploit WEeakness".

There could be a few clicks in between there with no damage power, right? And someone pointed out his numbers could spike because "that's when he starts fighting back".

Color me optimistic, but I too am reserving judgment until i click from start to finish. And my friends and I play way to many theme games/scenarios to not use this guy at least occassionally.

Dang, on that note, I do have to concede that I'm starting to see a lot of my figs gathering dust because there are too many to choose from...

One idea I can see is this guy helping rangers with his police TA and then him wreaking havoc on anyone basing the rangers...

[Horus]

It may be possible also that Exploit Weakness may allow things such as Poison damage to bypass defenses. Making him rather useful indeed.

[Aron]

We're getting Generic DEO, and Generic Science Police I think (see agent vaughn, montgomery kelley and chase of the DEO).

I would say this looked more similar to Infinity Inc version of Mr Bones to me, than Shade - I couldnt make the picture out too well, but he had a top hat and a skull, from my understanding Shade doesn't have a skull head *shrugs*

[hair10]

While I think Mr. Bones is an interesting character to toss in, he looks like another overpriced unique that will never see play.

Can anyone say "Lex Luthor"?

[Zarathos]

"Lex Luthor" :)

and that's probably who Bonehead will sit right next to on my shelf...

[Gentlegamer]

Originally posted by shin-goji
That movie was CRAZY good. It was a really great horror flick and I reccommend it.

You forgot to add the "yo" at the end. Like this:

"That movie was CRAZY good, yo!"

[da-Craig-O]

What is wrong with some of you? Do you have no interest in coming up with other ways to play? Do you always use SOD Superman? Personally, I can't wait to get this sweet sculpt. Also, I can't wait to use him in a 200 point game with Grodd. We gonna smoke us some b*tch*s.

[Gentlegamer]

Who was the guy who has a theme team called "Team Suit?"

Dude, you have new member!

[Sandra Wu-San]

Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
Can someone show me where in the rule changes that poison goes through defenses (toughness, Inv, and Imp?)

No?

Thanks that clears THAT up...


Actually, he has exploit weakness and poison later on, so that means that his poison will go through damage reducing powers. I'm glad that clears THAT up.

[tyroclix]

When I play, Iusualy ply to battle, not to see who can build the purty-est team on the board. Therefore 80 points for a figure with 6 clicks and nothing to benefit from isn't what I have in mind.

I do both.

I usually play to battle with the "purty-est team on the board".

I am glad to see an Infinity Inc fig. Gives me hope for a Jade and Obsidian set as well as something more than the Fury LE.

He does seem pricey - but considering Madame Hydra and Whitney Frosts costs - 45 and 51 - Bones has got to have something up his sleeve for those extra 30 points.

Isn't Lex "only" 60 points - and he has Perplex.

And also:

Where is the info on 6 clicks coming from? I'm missing something. One click of Leadership, two more of Outwit, and then "near the end of his dial he gets Exploit WEeakness".

It says: "Each of his six clicks has Poison, to represent his cyanide touch..."

[Munster4Life]

Sorry to disapoint you, My Lady Shiva.

Poison happens at the beginning of your turn, Exploit Weakness is a close combat action that's damage cannot be reduced.:o

[Ghost_Rider_92]

Originally posted by Sandra Wu-San
Actually, he has exploit weakness and poison later on, so that means that his poison will go through damage reducing powers. I'm glad that clears THAT up.

Sorry but Poison CANNOT work with Exploit weakness as one is an combat action while the other is a free action. Two seperate things.

NEXT?

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Dzilla
It is true too, you will pull 5 of these compared to Batman. a lot of people pull Parasite, Com. Gordon, Lex Luthor, etc. Yet they claim the distribution on uniques are the same. meaning there are the same amount of Supermans as opposed to Lex Luthor. Bah!! This is all wrong. Stop saying it! I got 1 Superman and 4 Batmans from CJ and I still don't have a Lex Luthor. So much for your theory. All uniques are equally rare. Some are just more in demand.

[DareDevil_13]

I'm sorry, but this is looking to be a terrible figure. If he cost maybe 50 points, cool, but 80 is too much. Poison is usually an almost useless power. Sure, you can put your poison figure next to mine, I'll then proceed to beat the snot outta him.

He'll likely join the ranks of Parasite, Commisioner Gordon, Brother Blood, and Luthor. And people wonder wy Marvel clix is considered to be better.

[nedleeds]

Originally posted by four_winds
Hes like a better red skull.

Red Skull = 47 pnts

Mr. Boner = 80 pnts ... 80pnts for 6 clicks of life, and I have to push him to get anything useful out of him.

I can have a Veteran Beast for gods sake with 8 clicks ... or Adam Warlock, a few other DC guys ... Looks like this sets Lex Luthor -- ABSOLUTELY USELESS

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Thunderbolts
Sorry Critical Mass, you still lose. Ah, go jump in a lake. I liked Critical Mass and I am liking Unleashed!

[turdburglar47]

Originally posted by Gentlegamer
Who was the guy who has a theme team called "Team Suit?"

Dude, you have new member!




That was me with the Team Suit, although it was a Marvel team I made.

I should make an "open" team suit now. Who we got? Lex Luthor, Mr. Bones, Mr. Hyde, Professor X, T.O. Morrow (a tie counts), Mr. Fixit, Kingpin, Penguin, Joker, Two-Face, Matches Malone, I guess... Heck, paint all the suits black and you can have the Reservoir Dogs.


I like the look of this guy. I'll be happy to get him, even though I don't know who he is. This is me, learnin' about DC through Heroclix. I mean, a friend lent me some LSH books to read, and it's fun to actually know who the heck Saturn Girl, Cosmic Boy and Live Wire are now. I wouldn't mind a 'Mano, The Hand of Fate' either. Maybe even a Torgo. Although I could do without Jumpy-Roundy Boy, Uncomfortable Itch Lad and Shimmy-Down-My-Eel Lass.

I prefer Marvel by a lot, but I don't look down my nose at DC. They ARE the forerunning geniuses that created Matter-Eater Lad.

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Horus
One thing we should look at with Mr. Bones is this:
We are obviously getting D.E.O. figs as generics!Generics are: DEO Agent, Science Police, Human Defense Corps Trooper and Undercover Gotham Policeman.

[dernjg]

As for how his poison can affect someone with tough/invul/imperv - he has two clicks of outwit and poison. That means he can outwit a person's defense and give them an automatic click of damage.
It's a highly fun attack and I reccomend everyone try it.

And Ghost_Rider_92, please remember that you're a WizKids volunteer and your actions represent WizKids, even when snapping at people on a message board.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Originally posted by DareDevil_13

He'll likely join the ranks of Parasite, Commisioner Gordon, Brother Blood, and Luthor. And people wonder wy Marvel clix is considered to be better.

I wonder why. Mr Bones, Luthor and Parasite are not representative of DC Uniques in general. There are plenty of absolutely awesome U's in Cosmic Justice, a few great ones in Hypertime, and, from the looks of it, a lot of great ones in Unleashed.

[Gacy's Clown]

Originally posted by Dzilla
I like that. "A better Red Skull." I guess they have to make useless figs like this so we can tell the difference with a good fig. It is true too, you will pull 5 of these compared to Batman. a lot of people pull Parasite, Com. Gordon, Lex Luthor, etc. Yet they claim the distribution on uniques are the same. meaning there are the same amount of Supermans as opposed to Lex Luthor. Bah!!

In two cases of Cosmic Justice, I didn't pull a single Lex Luthor or Batgirl, but had 3 Martian Manhunters and 2 or 3 Superman....

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Ignatz_Mouse
I wonder why. Mr Bones, Luthor and Parasite are not representative of DC Uniques in general. There are plenty of absolutely awesome U's in Cosmic Justice, a few great ones in Hypertime, and, from the looks of it, a lot of great ones in Unleashed. True. But...

Cosmic Justice Us have a big upside and a big downside with little inbetween. Generally if you got Martian Manhunter, Amazo, Eclipso, Despero, Superman or Batman you were thrilled. But if you got Lex Luthor, Brother Blood, Batgirl... And because the good ones were so good, the inbetweens (Catgirl, Bizarro, Mordru) were often seen as disappointments.

Hypertime Us just blow overall (much like Infinity Challenge, really).

[ReZourceman]

Originally posted by thugit
Sweet!!!!


You guys do realize that not every figure has to have huge attack and damage ratings, right?


Poison with Mastermind and outwit is very cool, and at 80 points, there are PLENTY of good options for mastermind fodder.... Grundy, Swamp Thing, etc....

I for one am GLAD to see some diversity in the set!



now theres diversity and general carpiness, i think you're getting them confused.

[EvilGenius]

Au contraire! Let us not forget the awesome CATWOMAN U!! And the super cool Darkseid! They are still hellasweet!

Originally posted by DreadDormammu
Hypertime Us just blow overall (much like Infinity Challenge, really).

[kamui]

Well, this Marvel Zombie is pretty excited here. I think he looks great, and I have to add to what turdburglar47 said. I love this game, it gives me reason to pick up other comic books and read them. Heck, I don't even know all of the Marvel characters in some sets, but I love this game for all the ####py and great characters.

[ReZourceman]

Originally posted by dernjg
As for how his poison can affect someone with tough/invul/imperv - he has two clicks of outwit and poison. That means he can outwit a person's defense and give them an automatic click of damage.




Well poison happens at the beginning of your turn so you couldnt outwit the respective defensive abilities in time for poison to occur.

[EvilGenius]

First, why don't you try to be less condescending? You might not seem like such a jerk, then.

Second, here's the quote from the designer write-up which is probably causing some misconceptions:

"Near the end of his dial he has some Exploit Weakness; this is when Mr. Bones actually starts fighting back – and he fights dirty, so his opponent is going to get hurt by the Poison–Exploit Weakness combo."

Now it looks like the author is saying Poison/EW work together. But he probably means that in addition to taking Poison Damage, an opponent is also going to have to deal with EW. Not necessarily, but probably.

Third, for some time now, you've been able to Outwit first in the round, before Poison happens and do away with pesky damage reducing powers, then Poison does it's thing. And, oh yeah, they do mention that Mr. Bones DOES have a few clicks of Poison/Outwit, don't they?

Now sit down, son. :angry:


Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
Sorry but Poison CANNOT work with Exploit weakness as one is an combat action while the other is a free action. Two seperate things.

NEXT?

[megakilroy]

Hasn't there been some debate on the timing of Poison and Outwit?

[EvilGenius]

They ruled on this sometime ago, and said that since Outwit is a free action, you can take it before Poison goes off.

Poison's pretty nifty, now. :)

Originally posted by ReZourceman
Well poison happens at the beginning of your turn so you couldnt outwit the respective defensive abilities in time for poison to occur.

[DaLuvster89]

I've got no real gripes with the figure. One of my fave Uniques is the Key, and he also only has 6 clix of life.
As always, the key to keeping your clix healthy is keeping them away from Outwit. Mastermind can almost add clix to a figure's dial. Heck, *maybe* he starts with an 8 AV and Leadership to get his minions into position, but Push him once, and his AV jumps up, and he gains Outwit.
I mean, who knows? It's impossible to say until we see his whole dial.
I like Mastermind. If there is noone to Outwit Bonesey's MM, combined with his Outwit he can be a real pain to get rid of.

I just have a feeling I'll pull 5 of him is all. :)

[ReZourceman]

Originally posted by EvilGenius
Now sit down, son. :angry:


Thanks for correcting me, but im already sat down, anyway its thugit so he can take it and im not a jerk.

:grin:

[megakilroy]

Originally posted by EvilGenius
You guys need to relax a bit. Haven't you really ever looked at PD and Hydra members? A LOT of them have lower Attack Values because they often run with other Hydra or PD pieces. So they can get a nice bump for ranged attacks. :rolleyes:


True, but you don't see many 80 point PD and Hydra figs. I will probably use him on theme teams, but I doubt he will get used much if the likes of KC Supes et al are going to be on the opposing team. I can see his outwit being a pretty big help to an all PD team though. Granted he will have a huge target on his head then... Hopefully he will have a lot of MM fodder (which should be the case on an all PD team) and the opponent doesn't have outwit.

[vaders sabre]

mr. who?

[Storm Master]

OK, I am hyped like crazy for Unleashed. Just let me get that out there. Now, on to my rant.

Mr. Bones does nothing but detract from the set for me. It's not so much that his stats will #### AND he costs 80 pts. I can live with this since it does seem to represent his character very well.

The problem I have is why in the name of God would you make this click to begin with? This guy isn't even a 3rd or 4th tier character. Maybe if we were on our 12th or 13th booster set for DC this guy MIGHT make the cut, but in the second? With NUMEROUS JSA, Titan and Legion members waiting to be made why go to this guy? Mr. Bones had a secondary role in a short lived direct market comic book in the early 80s with a handful of scattered cameos since. We are still waiting on the MAIN characters from Infinity Inc. to be made. How do you put Mr. Bones ahead of Power Girl, Star Spangled Kid, Brainwave, Nuklon, Jade or even Northwind? I just wish Wiz Kids would have made a different choice here.

Wildcat, Black Lightning, Mary Marvel, Dream Girl, Star Boy, Captain Atom, Kyle Rayner GL, Mon-el/Valor, etc; the list just goes on and on and I haven't even touched on the Silver and Golden Age stable of characters out there that the general public would actually recognize. We get Mr. Bones and most people go 'who's that?' This guy has to be somebodies' pet project like all those stupid Daredevils and Electras.

At least the rest of the set looks like a home run.

[EvilGenius]

Dude, that wasn't directed toward you. You just asked a question.

My comments were directed at Ghost_Rider_92, who was quite rude in his response to Sandra-Wu-San.

Sorry if you got in the way of the flame! :)

Originally posted by ReZourceman
Thanks for correcting me, but im already sat down, anyway its thugit so he can take it and im not a jerk.

:grin:

[thickvic]

Dissapointment

[mrpip_pal]

I think the poison/exploit weakness combo is cool; though not worth 80 pts. I've long though poison should hurt characters with damage reducing powers; and it looks like we've got some one who'll have that ability.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

DD: Yes, ut if you were sqaqured off against Amazo, I don't think you'd say DC Clix ####!

Really, every set has a few duds, CM probably having the least.

[supergoblin]

Uhm, Mkr, is hit by somewhat friendly fire.

On to more inportant things. I like the look of this figure. The dail is interesting (read could be good but I'd bet that if you bet on it you would end up broke.)

[turdburglar47]

Originally posted by mrpip_pal
I think the poison/exploit weakness combo is cool; though not worth 80 pts. I've long though poison should hurt characters with damage reducing powers; and it looks like we've got some one who'll have that ability.




I've long thought Clayface ruled because of poison WITH plasticity, but then I looked him over, and I don't think he ever has them on the same click in any of his versions. That made me sad.

[TyeDyeSamurai]

A couple things...

Mr. Bones sounds like a solid piece. Maybe he's not a powerhouse, but how many Silver Surfers, SOD Supermen and Uliks do we need? By now Wizkids has really gotten the hang of the point formulae, and I'm sure they wouldn't just outright botch a piece. He's one of those pieces that you really need to plan for to use in your team. You can't just throw him in thinking "OK, he's a fighter" or "OK, he's an outwitter."

Some people are also underrating Poison. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way how effective a certain strategy can be. The Atom is a huge piece that basically can roam where he pleases with 20 def and stealth. But base him with a Poison piece, and suddenlly he's in trouble.
Catwoman giving you grief with 17 def and Super Senses? De-claw her with Poison. Wiith the Mastermind combo, these targets can't simply knock the power off either.

Lastly, Sandra Wu-San is one of the best tacticians I have seen on this board. Her SoHK is a great read and she clearly knows the game and what she is doing. So being rude and insulting to her really isn't the way to go. Everyone will get more out of these pieces discussing their merits rather than how bemoaning the thought of pulling one.

[Kaitouace]

Originally posted by Storm Master
The problem I have is why in the name of God would you make this click to begin with? This guy isn't even a 3rd or 4th tier character. Maybe if we were on our 12th or 13th booster set for DC this guy MIGHT make the cut, but in the second? With NUMEROUS JSA, Titan and Legion members waiting to be made why go to this guy? Mr. Bones had a secondary role in a short lived direct market comic book in the early 80s with a handful of scattered cameos since. We are still waiting on the MAIN characters from Infinity Inc. to be made. How do you put Mr. Bones ahead of Power Girl, Star Spangled Kid, Brainwave, Nuklon, Jade or even Northwind? I just wish Wiz Kids would have made a different choice here.

Most likely just because they needed generics and since we have DEO Agents now, he just kind of came with them.

[the itsy bit]

Originally posted by vaders sabre
mr. who?

It's Dr.Who !!

[RanmaSolo]

This sounds like an extremely playable piece if you were to shave off about 30 points. As it is, I love the sound of the dial, but I think it might just be too much to pay for him. (this is leaving room for the possibility of some incredible Defense number or an attack spike or huge damage, etc that could change my opinion.)

Not every piece will be uber-playable either, though, so I'm just a little dissapointed because I like the power combinations. Oh well, at least he looks _really_ cool.

Happy clixing,
Mike

[skeevo666]

Originally posted by DaLuvster89
I've got no real gripes with the figure.

I do. Brown shoes with a Black suit!

What was he thinking . . ?

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Storm Master
The problem I have is why in the name of God would you make this click to begin with?Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I tend to agree with the philosophy that WizKids "holds back" on doing too many key characters per set. This ensures that they can do more sets that you will "need to have".

[grey_zealot]

A high-cost leader-type villain, a la Lex Luthor.

Seems like a mix of Lex Luthor and Red Skull.

I'll give him a shot.

[Deadpool91]

i love the sound of his dial, but 80 pts? too much for this, 60 sure, 70 eh, def not 80.

police is a solid team ability, mixed with poison and exploit weakness (that could be a cool pair). plus he has leadership, couple clicks of outwit. oh and mastermind which will come in handy. basically fly him around with a cheap figure to base others, use poison and if he takes damage, mastermind it off. probably not more than a 6 range i'm sure. his dial is different and i like it, just wish it were less pts. 8 start attack is hard to work with cause you know it goes down after that.

[megakilroy]

I keep reading people say that Poison and Exploit Weakness is a cool combination. I guess it's cool that if he is based with a fig that has no damage reduction, he does a click before he tries to attack them (in which case Exploit Weakness is useless since they have no damage reduction). The only time Exploit Weakness comes in handy is when you are attacking a fig with damage reduction, and Poison does you no good against those figs. So I kind of think the powers don't really complement each other well at all. Unless WizKids goes and changes the rules and says that "if a figure has Poison and Exploit Weakness, adjacent figs take a click regardless of damage reduction powers", I'd rather save the points and take one or the other.

[GMSLegion]

Originally posted by Nevest
I've been working on a new theme night idea. Build the worst 300 point team possible. No doubles, no generics. Then each round you give your opponent the team you built and they give you theirs. This guy sounds like he might be a candidate.

It's called Legion of Losers and we've been playing that for a year in Atlanta. You wouldn't want to give an opponent Mr. Bones because of his Leadership. The last thing you want an opponent to have when he's fielding a team of 10 Losers is extra actions. Also, the team you will field against Bones is not likely to have many people with Toughness or the like, and Poison will come in handy against the R Constrictor, R Puppet Master, Medusa and R CT Elektra...

There are people in these parts who DETEST Legion of Losers, fueled in part by their inability to cheese-up for maximum boredom, but I think it's the most challenging and amusing Clix variation, and I think I could do a little more damage to the Losers I give you with the Mr. Bones you give me!

[Ghost_Rider_92]

A Jerk? Yes, I can be, some call me a certain part of the nether regions, but I know and proud.

However, when I stated about the poison, everyone was pointing ot it goes through defenses. I KNOW you can outwit efore the poison takes place, but they were implying it is an ignore power.

Miss wu San came on and stated that it CAN be use in conjunction with exploit weakness. As of right now and until new FAQS state otherwise, it cannot. She then was rude with her delivery so I replied in the same tone.

I was just staig the obvious while people were assuming somthing that cannot be and wanted to save them the troubles of making plans for something they didn't understand. That is all.

However, I am still an *** <---- (encrpted myself) and know and love it, it's what gets me day by day.

:laugh:

[megakilroy]

Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
However, I am still an *** <---- (encrpted myself) and know and love it, it's what gets me day by day.


Great, nothing like people who get off on being jerks... They rank right up there with people who have halitosis and stand really close to you when they talk.

[Ghost_Rider_92]

Hmm, Sarcasm seems to be undetected in these parts....

[chi_madnes]

is this guy begging to be modded into agents smith or what

[megakilroy]

[SARCASM]You forgot to use the Sarcasm font.[\SARCASM] I just wanted to use the word "halitosis", and your last post gave me a good reason. No harm, no foul.

[warden]

Originally posted by jesse1111
he looks like the Gentlemen from buffy. Good point. I was thinking that he's like Mr Bones in Doomtown. Either way, he must be mine ...

Andrew

[megakilroy]

Was it just me or did anybody else get excited that they threw in a Star Trek figure for this set when they first read "Mr. Bones"?

[Gentlegamer]

"He's dead, Jim."

[EmeraldKnight4]

Interesting...not the mr.bones version I would have picked, but interesting.....

[SithSpecter]

Well it's a staggeringly meh preview. I really don't like the PD team. Mostly because figures with it are pretty lame ie Jim Gordon. My question is why is this suddenly the only non generic, barring Jim, if they are going to start handing out the PD ability to real characters and not just junk cops. But maybe more people will have it in Unleashed.

Too many maybes are also brought up by this guy. *Maybe* his atk spikes later in the dial. *Maybe* he has a decent ranged atk. But really we don't know much of anything. They didn't exactly spoil very much about this figure. But I must say it's really making me rethink about splitting a case with a friend. I mean, would you want to be stuck with a Mr. Bones (or gag 2) when your buddy just got KC Superman?

Really neat sculpt though.

[Deathlok23]

I'm just sad that he isn't smoking a cigar (come here Logan, let borrow your smoke for a mod). They did upgrade him from his original version. He didn't have the PD team ability and still costed the same. Since just about every other figure has been changed from their playtest version due to input from the playtesters, I believe he will be better too. 2 days to preview night at Wizard World LA, so you won't have to hold your breath long.

[jedah_s]

maybe i'm the only person who expected kilowog as todays preview considering it's st. patricks day... him being a *green* lantern and all.
oh well.
anyways.... i love obscure figures.
every obscure, over-costed, under-powered figure they make... the closer they get to making a unique krypto
:D
sit... stay... use your heat vision... good boy.

[Grinner]

Originally posted by SithSpecter
My question is why is this suddenly the only non generic, barring Jim, if they are going to start handing out the PD ability to real characters and not just junk cops.

(Grinner walks over to his DC stuff, pulls out Easy Company guys {not cops}, then Sgt. Rock {not generic}, looks back at SithSpecter's post and shakes his head.)

Originally posted by VampireHunterD
Sculpt looks awesome though... has anyone actually ever heard of this character?

Yeah, several of us have. Having been a fan of Infinity Inc I'm quite pleased to see him.

Originally posted by Dzilla
It is true too, you will pull 5 of these compared to Batman. a lot of people pull Parasite, Com. Gordon, Lex Luthor, etc. Yet they claim the distribution on uniques are the same. meaning there are the same amount of Supermans as opposed to Lex Luthor. Bah!!

Then there are those of us who have seen more SoD Supermen pulled than Luthors. In fact, I still don't have a Luthor, and only have a Gordon from a trade.

[mbdeyes]

Originally posted by SumYungGai
Wow, the inheritor to the grand tradition of Commisioner Gordon and Lex Luthor. Hopefully his AV spikes when he hits his exploit weakness clicks.

Prediction for the next DC set; an Amanda Waller unique with Mastermind, Outwit, Leadership, and the Suicide Squad team ability. She will have a 5MV, 7 AV, 14 DV, 1 damage, 1 arrow and 4 range.

And be worth 117 pts. Don't forget that.

BTW, I've actually seen the Commish used well. I can't say the same for the others, though.

[mbdeyes]

Originally posted by Grinner

Then there are those of us who have seen more SoD Supermen pulled than Luthors. In fact, I still don't have a Luthor, and only have a Gordon from a trade.

Hey, want a Luthor? I'll take one of those extra Supe's off your hands.... ;)

As for Bones, I'll definitely have to check WHOCLIX for that one....

[shin-goji]

Great! I have a figure that I can mod as "Casual Ghost Rider."

[mbdeyes]

What, not Tuxedo Ghost Rider, or Pall-Bearer Ghost Rider?

[BAKID]

Commissioner Gordon sucks, but only because Vet. Sgt. Rock is SO much better for almost the same price, and ability set. The commish has a great sculpt, PD team ability, leadership, and STILL has a higher AV than Mr. Bones for almost half the price. The problem with mastermind is that having it for multiple clicks is usually pointless--either your opponent can outwit the mastermind, in which case your figure is toast, or you aren't going to NEED those later clicks of mastermind.

[Cigam Retah]

You know, the reason he's called Mr. Bones is because you can see his skull due to a botched process where he tried to turn himself invisibible.

That should at least account for a first-click addition of Stealth. Stealth and Mastermind should always be together.

[thugit]

Originally posted by ReZourceman
Thanks for correcting me, but im already sat down, anyway its thugit so he can take it and im not a jerk.

:grin:


You've been here for 3 days and already "know" me?



How odd.

[I Am The Game]

The only time I've ever seen Mr. Bones is on the cover of a Who's Who drawn by Todd McFarlane, in the old suit. Looks an awful lot like Spawn...stolen? I think so.

Regarding playability, that's 80 free points sitting on the table. When I decide on figs to play, I want to know that their cost will be worth the damage I do to opposing figs before it goes down. For instance, I'm costing my team at least 9 points for pushing an Invulnerable fig, and it's generally not worth doing it to kill a 6 point Thug. By that logic, 80 points of Mr. Bones will NEVER deal 80 points worth of damage, so playing him would put me at a huge disadvantage.

I hope someone plays him in the marquee, because I won't.

[green_knight]

You want to know who Spawn was stolen from? Look at old Amazing SpiderMan issues drawn by McFarlane and look for a character called "the Prowler". Identical costume, inverted color scheme (mostly).

[X-Hero]

Who?

Is this some sort of Indy Clix reject? :)

[SithSpecter]

Originally posted by X-Hero
Who?

Is this some sort of Indy Clix reject? :)

Yes that must be it, a character you don't recognize is an Indy Click. All of them in fact. Even those being previewed for *DC* Unleashed. Yupp makes sense to me.

[andyrich]

He looks a lot like Manny from Grim Fandango

[mbdeyes]

My point wasn't that there weren't more useful figs than the Commish, just that he's much more useful (IMHO) than Luthor or Parasite. I was actually excited to get him, whereas I passed up a $6 Parasite on principal (something I wouldn't do with ANY other Unique).

I use the Commish about as much as I do SGT. Rock (which is every once in a while).

I use Deathstroke more often than I doe either of them, though.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Frankly, I'm pretty thrilled to see Mr. Bones though I admit a large part of it is just I really like the character, especially in his DEO role.

I'm wondering if they gave him super-strength anywhere. He seemed to have it in the old days (like when he beat the beejeezus out of Fury).

I admit he seems high-cost for only six clicks of life when viewed as regular open tournament piece. However, I'm wondering if WizKids isn't doing the same thing Magic and other CCG's do: some characters (or cards as in the MtG case) are designed not so much for constructed play as sealed play. Mr. Bones may not be a powerhouse for constructed, agreed, but he might just surprise us in a sealed-tournament format where you have to think a little more creatively and use different options than usual. Frankly a Masterminding Poison Outwitter in sealed play sounds like it has potential.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Originally posted by skeevo666
I do. Brown shoes with a Black suit!

What was he thinking . . ?

That it was after Labor Day? :)

[skyounkin]

Uhm, I would like to withdrawl my previous comment on another thread about all uniques of this set being classified as "must haves".......uhg...oh well, every set has their Umars.....

For a scuplt, chop off unique luthors head put on red skulls head and paint white.....take off hand with heart and put in hand with cigar and wha-lah!!


Mr. Bones!

[skyounkin]

Uhm, can't edit above post....


Have to say for previews though this is the only one I have to say "Eh" to.....

So, bring on Unleashed!!

[skyounkin]

Originally posted by The Sandman
IMHO After all is said and done, I would rather a character be accurately potrayed than be playable because this is based on comics and the characters I like.


THAT is something I can totally agree with.

[Mjolnir]

cigar and wha-lah!!
Ok, time for the French lesson of the day:
It's not wha-lah.
It's not walla.
It's not wal-lah either.
It's voila. Pronounced vwa-lah.


Now, I return you to your kvetching.


Oh, every set has a useless unique.
Hyper Time: Commisioner Gordon(bleh!)
Cosmic Justice: Brother Blood(Blech!) nad Lex Luthor(double-blech!)
Unleashed: Mr Bones(80 points?!?!?!) and ???

[weezer_10]

Firstly, for those who don't know him, let's introduce you to Mr. Bones; click here (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=dirbones) for a bio.

And secondly, for those who think this figure will be useless; Is Mr. Bones "useless" because he, like Lex Luthor and Red Skull, is a piece that may actually require you as a player to think tactfully instead of relying on raw power (i.e., massive damage and attack values) all the time?

Just a thought.

[davenappy]

Who?

Why?

[Cigam Retah]

And secondly, for those who think this figure will be useless; Is Mr. Bones "useless" because he, like Lex Luthor and Red Skull, is a piece that may actually require you as a player to think tactfully instead of relying on raw power (i.e., massive damage and attack values) all the time?

Unfortunatly, some people seem to think that every figure should be a MUST HAVE, 300 pt. Tourney monster. I like figures like this, that do indeed require a little skill. Not to mention, it allows me to recreate particular battles. In fact, this is a guy I really could see standing next to Lex Luthor...along with Doomsday and Brainac.

Giving a 'Villian' the PD ability due to his manipulation of the system is great too.

[RanmaSolo]

Originally posted by weezer_10

And secondly, for those who think this figure will be useless; Is Mr. Bones "useless" because he, like Lex Luthor and Red Skull, is a piece that may actually require you as a player to think tactfully instead of relying on raw power (i.e., massive damage and attack values) all the time?

Just a thought.

Not at all, it's because he, from the preview, sounds far to expensive for six clicks of life. I'm actually a fan of this style of dial... Like Whitney Frost. If Bones was about 30, even 20 points less I'd be _pretty_ excited about this piece. As is, he could surprise me, but seemingly he's just an easy 80 points.

On the flip side his potential in sealed play is relatively decent.

Happy clixing,
Mike

[ErasmusCraven]

No, to play this piece well, to make it worth your points, you would have to have the intellect of Steve Hawking, and be playing a small, disinterested child.

This figure will be a giantic waste of points, and normally won't survive long enough to ever get to use Exploit weakness.

Horrid. No, not every figure must be a killer. It would be nice however that a figure of this caliber be pointed at the 30-40 points it is worth, rather than the 2x it is pointed at.

That being said, I love the sculpt, and I have always liked Mr. Bones.

EC

[skyounkin]

Originally posted by Mjolnir
Ok, time for the French lesson of the day:
It's not wha-lah.
It's not walla.
It's not wal-lah either.
It's voila. Pronounced vwa-lah.


Now, I return you to your kvetching.


Oh, every set has a useless unique.
Hyper Time: Commisioner Gordon(bleh!)
Cosmic Justice: Brother Blood(Blech!) nad Lex Luthor(double-blech!)
Unleashed: Mr Bones(80 points?!?!?!) and ???


WHA-LAH!!! WHA-LAH!!! WHA-LAH!!!!

And I now return to not really caring.....
;)

[tchipley]

Hellooo Skelehomie!

Interesting pull for a sealed event. Otherwise a bunk rare. Need the bunk to counterbalance the good. Helps with collectibility.

[doc_holleday]

Originally posted by AlgertMan
you MARVEL fanboys are realy showing how stupid you are, with stuff outside of MARVEL

and remember, if dont type MARVEL in all caps, they will sue you

Here's a little treat for everybody. The lyrics from "Gotta kill Capt. Stupid" by Suicidal Tendencies:

Ah ####, we got a lot of stupid people
Doing a lot of stupid things
Thinking alot of stupid thoughts
And if you want to see one
Just look in the mirror

Gotta kill Capt. Stupid, can't you see him?
Today we start the new way, we're Suicidal
Gotta kill the old way, we'll make it better
Won't you join our mission, don't be stupid
Got to kill Capt. Stupid
Got to kill Capt. Stupid

Brother killing brothers, what up with that?
Can't you see there laughing, that aint funny
Babies making babies, that aint love
You just got screwed over, get some respect

Got to kill Capt. Stupid
Got to kill Capt. Stupid

And I don't understand why
People be bringin' Capt. Stupid in there lives
Treating him like a super-hero
Glorifying him when he aint nothing but a super-punk
And you see, you're the one who's gonna have to stop him
'Cause you're the one that started him

Oh, what's that?
So, now you say life sucks
Well, ninety-nine percent of it's
What you make of it...
So if your life sucks, you ####

What's that #### you're smoking, playing the fool
Waste your life for nothing, when your something
What the hell you thinking, mind pollution
Got to get back control, it's your life fool

Got to kill Capt. Stupid
Got to kill Capt. Stupid

What's that now?
Ah, so you're scared to do something about it
Well, you better be scared not to do something about it
'Cause if you don't kill Capt. Stupid
Capt. Stupid gonna kill you!
Got to kill Capt. Stupid - fool

[4AD_Punk]

Hey, I wanna play the lyric game also.

A song I sing to all the kids who want all their figures to have 12 attack values with a point cost of 50. Moreover, a song for the kids who think the only way to play Heroclix is to be uber-boring by using "Aquaman and Deathstroke" instead of other characters who present the same abilities. A song for those whose one and only aim is to win every game of Heroclix they play: building giant sand castles for themselves because being a winner is desperately important in life. Lastly, a song for those that can sometimes make this game relatively empty because they really do nothing new or inspiring, but are slaves to the conventional thinking of using staple figs.

Once I had my heroes
Once I had my dreams
But all of that is changed now
They've turned things inside out
The truth is not that comfortable, no

And mother taught us patience
The virtues of restraint
And father taught us boundaries
Beyond which we must go
To find the secrets promised us, yeah

That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when it all gets blown away
That's when I reach for my revolver
The spirit fights to find its way

A friend of mine once told me
His one and only aim
To build a giant castle
And live inside his name
Cry and whispers sing in muted pain

That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when it all gets blown away
That's when I reach for my revolver
The spirit fights to find its way

Tonight the sky is empty
But that is nothing new
Its dead eyes look upon us
And they tell me we're nothing but slaves

That's when I reach for my revolver
(...but slaves)
That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when I reach for my revolver
That's when I reach for my revolver

MISSION OF BURMA

[NathanielEssex]

The more I look at Mr. Bones, the more I dig the sculpt. I do wonder if he'll have super strength at any time, but probably not since they neglected to mention it. Though he does look like a Ghost Rider that's ready to shmooze and drink martinis with a bunch of high society fogies or to give the Penance Stare to a few corrupt stock brokers, the dial seems to be more cerebral, a thinking man's heroclix.

[DaLuvster89]

Originally posted by skyounkin
Uhm, I would like to withdrawl my previous comment on another thread about all uniques of this set being classified as "must haves".......uhg...oh well, every set has their Umars.....

Umar... Bad? Or just not "recognizeable" to the average comic fan? I think she's pretty good, playability wise.

Just had to jump up and defend 'ol bug-eye's dial a bit... :)

[Speedy]

A lot of disagreement on this figure in this thread. While he may not be a mainstream character, it is not like we have a R/E/V figure here. They made him a Unique (obviously limiting your opportunity to even pull the character), which I think makes sense for characters who aren't known to all players. Sculpt looks fine, character looks like he will be fun to play if he is used properly.

[bullseye100]

cool

[WYVERN85]

hmmm, while i like the character of Mr. Bones, and was glad at first to see him as a clix...i find myself not liking this preview.
i would much rather him in his original costume from his helix days, maybe with the metal replacement leg (after it was bitten off by that mexican shark - i kid you not)
he definitely had super strength and leadership to go with his poison. i also would have given him higher than an 8 attack, i seem to remember him getting into it a few times and doing alright for himself.
oh well, at least we are seeing some cool obscure characters in the new set

[X-Hero]

Hey I'm not saying Marvel dosen't have some stupid characters 'koff...koff...ummm...Marathon...but anyhow, at least they haven't been made into clix.

I'd much rather they stick in another Kingdom Come character rather then this guy. Oh and to correct myself, he could not be a Indy Clix reject...he dosent have stealth and blades claws :)

[Mjolnir]

Well, I'd rather they made him a unique rather than an REV... still, when I open a booster and see him...... there won't be a smile on my face.... more like a grimace.

Well, for all of those people who like to make tournies where each person tries to make a useless team and win with it.... I know how to lose now:
U LexLuthor, 69 points
U Brother Blood 104 points
U Mr Bones 80 points
grand total: 253 points in dreck. Only 47 more points to go.

[mbdeyes]

Ok, so he's got poison and Outwit right? It's already been mentioned that poison doesn't work with Exploit Weakness (as far as we know) so that's a useless combo, however:

I've been told that you can outwit Poison before it takes effect. It would follow then that I could outwit someone's Impervious (or other damage reducing power) before my Poison takes affect. That's a little more useful.

For the record, when viewed alongside the rest of the HT set, the Commish is far from useless. Enter Parasite for that role.

And BTW, it's spelled voila... I'm Canadian.

[Ultimate_X-Men]

Mr. Bones is a more frightening Lex Luthor with better support powers. I hope his attack and damage value is high when he has Exploit Weakness.

[Frontman]

Originally posted by X-Hero
Hey I'm not saying Marvel dosen't have some stupid characters 'koff...koff...ummm...Marathon...but anyhow, at least they haven't been made into clix.

I'd much rather they stick in another Kingdom Come character rather then this guy. Oh and to correct myself, he could not be a Indy Clix reject...he dosent have stealth and blades claws :)

They haven't made stupid characters into clix for Marvel? Well, that's a complete matter of opinion on that one. I can think of a number of figures I wished they hadn't done for Marvel.

I for one am glad that the number of Kingdom Come figures seems at this time to be low. I'd much rather have them do a few in each set, and to keep all KC's to unique status.

And for the record, if an Indy Clix doesn't have anything to do with Hellboy, then they can just be classified as rejects all the way around.....

The Frontman

[TyeDyeSamurai]

Originally posted by andyrich
He looks a lot like Manny from Grim Fandango

That game was a f'ing masterpiece.
That alone makes this the must have figure of the set for me. :cool:

[eshuroger]

Those of you who didn't know Mr. Bones, don't feel bad. The guy who wrote the preview thought Infinity Inc was a villain team.

[eshuroger]

No, I guess he didn't. It does mention Helix in there. Too bad I can't edit my message.

80 points seems a lot for this guy, though he does have some nice abilities. I may use him in a sealed, but probably not in a constructed game.

[ErasmusCraven]

No eshuroger, it was just awakwardly written. He was a member of Helix (from the comic book, Infinity Inc) and later a member of Infinity Inc. A villian turned hero turned GS24......

I had the same reaction when I first read it.

EC