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Nursenut
03/19/2004, 23:48
Hey Gang,
Just got back from seeing DoD and what can I say it was pretty dang good. Of course I'm a sucker for apocalyptic zombie movies. I don't know I just love movies about the end of the world that don't have a happy ending.

Inevitably people will compare it to the original, but to me they are two totally different movies. According to some the original DoD was a commentary on our materialistic society. Whatever. I liked the original because it was way cool.

Anyways, this new one has some neat stuff in it also. First of all the zombies are fast! They can easily run you down. They also not pushovers when it comes to strength and agility. The movie also shows (with some CGI effects) the vast number of zombies. There is a couple of awesome shots that show them surrounding the mall.

The movie has it share of good scares, but I feel the beginning is the scariest where the main heroine is attacked. Of course there is a good amount of gore also.

Fans of the first DoD will enjoy a couple of cameos. And of course any movie with Ving Rhames can't be all bad. :p

seton55
03/19/2004, 23:54
Dude, I totally know what your talking about! I just got back from seein' it to and to say the least, it was AWSOME! But the only thing that got me down was when they had to shot that Andy guy, he look like a nice guy to me. :(

Nursenut
03/19/2004, 23:57
Originally posted by seton55
Dude, I totally know what your talking about! I just got back from seein' it to and to say the least, it was AWSOME! But the only thing that got me down was when they had to shot that Andy guy, he look like a nice guy to me. :(

Yeah I really liked how they did that with him being across the street. I loved it when he was sniping at the celebrities.

seton55
03/20/2004, 01:40
I swear that was THE MOST FUNNY thing I have ever seen.

Karma0001
03/20/2004, 04:27
How about the operatic rendition of Down With The Sickness? I was in a packed midnight showing and I don't think one person in that theater WASN'T busting a gut at that. Yeah the Jay Leno/Burt Reynolds scene was PRICELESS. lol And I think the "Baby Scene" got to everyone in the theater the most.

"Four stars. Joe Bob says check it out." -Joe Bob Briggs (B-movie critic)

m0rpheus
03/20/2004, 07:50
ACK! Fast zombies! I hate fast zombies!

I havent seen it yet but personally I prefer the slow, lumbering zombie mobs that just keep coming.

That said I did love the "zombies" in 28 Days Later, so I'll give the new Dawn a chance.

TechLee
03/20/2004, 10:59
Hehe, so did you guys stick around through all the credits? ;)

Nursenut
03/20/2004, 11:04
Originally posted by TechLee
Hehe, so did you guys stick around through all the credits? ;)

Yeah that was pretty cool

SABRECLAW
03/20/2004, 11:05
Don't tell us what it is, thanks!

gopperhopper
03/20/2004, 17:03
BOOBIES! The new Dawn rules but has nothing to do with the orginal. I thought it was pretty cool the helicopter in the first five minutes or so and Wooley's Diner (Wooley was the SWAT guy they had to shoot in the orignal), anyone else catch any nods like that to the first one?

CaptainMarvel
03/20/2004, 19:40
All I can say is TOTALLY SWEET! and coming from a Ninja Master that is TOTALLY AWSOME!

thugit
03/20/2004, 19:59
Awesome. We're going to see it in about an hour. Hope it lives up to all of your hype...

Especially you, Captain Marvel! If it sucks, I hold you personally responsible!

Nursenut
03/20/2004, 22:04
Originally posted by thugit
Awesome. We're going to see it in about an hour. Hope it lives up to all of your hype...

Especially you, Captain Marvel! If it sucks, I hold you personally responsible!

You wont be disapointed. Its awesome!

Gacy's Clown
03/21/2004, 02:32
Originally posted by Nursenut
According to some the original DoD was a commentary on our materialistic society. Whatever.

Uhh, that came from George Romero, so I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about when it comes to his own movie....

But anyways, I saw the movie as well and while I was skeptical about it at first (especially with fast zombies and the original being one of my all time favs), I was totally pumped up throughout the whole movie. The fast zombies actually worked with this movie and made for some edge of your seat scenes. The gore was obviously toned down to get an R rating, but that's expected.
Can't wait to get this in all it's full, uncut glory on DVD!!!

Gacy's Clown
03/21/2004, 02:36
BTW, it was nice to see Tom Savini make his regular cameo as the cop in that one scene.

That one's a twitcher!

dotman
03/21/2004, 03:34
This movie was awesome. Really nice zombies, gore, the whole she-bang. The only drawback is that they didn't explain how everyone became zombies in the first place. :ermm:

DOOMSTRIKER
03/21/2004, 03:57
i just got back to, great movie, i was skeptical of the fast zombies to, but it worked ok, i was AMAZED at the amount of young children in the theatre, it was kinda funny watching there reactions to some of the parts, and the scene that made all the woman in the crowd scream, the fat woman raising up, for some reason that horrified them, oh and my friends girlfriend was in tears when they had to shoot the guy who was bitten, that was funny to

(on a side note, cant wait to get texas chainsaw massacre on dvd in a few days, i loved that movie)

thugit
03/21/2004, 11:15
Awesome movie!!!!

The first few minutes are absoutely spectacular.... and then Johnny Cash comes on singing about the Apocalypse!!!

And since when is Sarah Polley so hot?!

thjimmy
03/21/2004, 11:40
Guys, sorry to disagree, but I really didn't like the movie. The start was incredible, but it just kind of stopped after they settled in the mall.

Without going into spoilers (for a zombie horror flick ;) ) I just kind of lost interest about half way through. There were too many people to care about, plot points, like the Russian lady/dad/kid, could have been done better.

And I hated the end. Not because of the outcome, but because I wanted more closure.

If you all really want a great zombie movie with a decent plot - go get 28 Days Later. Not quite as graphic, but a lot better movie.

Miraclo
03/21/2004, 11:44
Originally posted by thjimmy
And I hated the end. Not because of the outcome, but because I wanted more closure.

Did you stay through the scenes embedded in the credits? I don't know how much more closure one could get than that.

Captain BBQ
03/21/2004, 11:45
There was never an explanation in any of the original zombie movies about why it was happening either. In Night Of The Living Dead, a space probe coming back from Venus leaking weird radiation is mentioned. They admit they don't know if this has anything to do with it or not.

Mostly it just seems like one of the laws of nature has permanently changed. Used to be dead people just lay there. Now they reactivate and go hunting the living.

I thought it was weird that in the remake, you don't become a zombie unless you died from a zombie bite. If this is how you become a zombie, how did it spread worldwide so fast?

Nursenut
03/21/2004, 11:51
Originally posted by DOOMSTRIKER
i just got back to, great movie, i was skeptical of the fast zombies to, but it worked ok, i was AMAZED at the amount of young children in the theatre)

So was I. Some parents brought childern as young as 6 or 7. Seemed kinda wrong to me.

Miraclo
03/21/2004, 12:09
Originally posted by Captain BBQ
I thought it was weird that in the remake, you don't become a zombie unless you died from a zombie bite. If this is how you become a zombie, how did it spread worldwide so fast?

That aspect bothered me a little, too, as it seemed to be another bio-threat influence. It could have been someone's conscious to downplay the religious "Judgement" overtones some had exaggerated over the years.

Did you ever see the awful "expanded" version of the black and white Night of the Living Dead from around 1999? (I'm not talking about the 1990, color remake.) They got some of the worst actors available and filmed new, unnecessary bookend scenes to lean hard on the idea that this was simply an act of God, including having some priest be bitten and recover instead of dying and reanimating -- laying it on thick by making a big deal of how extensive medical testing showed no unusual immunities in his blood.

Getting back to the new movie, perhaps the initial infection was something that got into play in some other way. Maybe it was initially an air- or water-borne item that found its way into many people over a period of months, and in those cases wasn't activated until they died from whatever cause, at which point they attack and bite infections began? Maybe the first wave were those with the weakest immune systems who visited Disneyworld on a particular day? Something huge with an international draw?

I know, it's not entirely satisfactory, especially if one's to believe it became a worldwide phenomenon in what appears to be a matter of just a few days, but it was the first thing that came to mind.

It's not so huge and insurmountable a flaw that it spoiled my enjoyment of the movie. I didn't even mind the shallower character studies due to their being so many more of them and only having 100 minutes to work with. What we got seemed reasonably well-rounded and mostly free of two dimensional stereotypes. Their decision concerning whether or not to remain where they were bothered me a little but I don't want to run any spoilers here, especially on its opening weekend.

beezer090
03/21/2004, 12:25
quote:I thought it was pretty cool the helicopter in the first five minutes or so and Wooley's Diner (Wooley was the SWAT guy they had to shoot in the orignal), anyone else catch any nods like that to the first one?


*Spoliers Possibly*
1. The aged guy in the army barret at the base was Scott H. Reiniger who played Roger
2. There is a department store named Gaylen Ross, which is the name of the actress who played Fran in the original
3. Ken Foree, who played Peter in the original is a pastor on television who delivers his classic line "When there's no more room in hell..."
4. Tom Savini, who did special effects, stunt work, and played a biker plays a sheriff explaining how to kill the zombies.
That's all I found at this time. Anyone have anymore?

Gacy's Clown
03/21/2004, 15:00
Originally posted by dotman
This movie was awesome. Really nice zombies, gore, the whole she-bang. The only drawback is that they didn't explain how everyone became zombies in the first place. :ermm:

Just like some of the others have said, they don't know how they became zombies. Remember the press conference scene where they kept asking the guy every question in the book about them and his only response to everything was "I don't know."

Gacy's Clown
03/21/2004, 15:04
It's not too farfetched that the disease and zombies spread that quickly in just a matter of time, when you consider that these zombies could run a four forty instead of just limping along.

This just in: Hell beats Heaven!
Just saw on the news that Dawn of the Dead is #1, beating out Passion of The Christ at the box office with over $27 million. More than I expected and quite impressive for this type of movie and the competition it had this weekend.

theSHOWDOWN
03/21/2004, 15:23
I saw Dawn of the Dead last night, and had a difficult time enjoying it because of the row of young children crying next to me because of how scared the were. They were begging the older girl they were with to let them leave, but she wouldn't because she wanted to see the movie. Finally, I found a cop in the lobby and he removed her and checked her ID only to find out that she wasn't the guardian of the kids. Now at my theater (OKC AMC24) they're supposedly checking ticket, ID, and not allowing children under 17 without indication of parenthood or guardianship.

What I found most astonishing about this movie was not the gore (which was the worst I've seen on the big screen...maybe just worse than Cabin Fever), but the positive reviews it's gotten considering how The Passion of the Christ was critically mauled for its intense violence and sadistic undertones.

And not a word out of the critics denouncing the violence in Dawn of the Dead. Baby killing? Zombie mothers/births? Graphic chainsaw dismemberments? Shooting an innocent old woman? Let's face it...the whole zombie giving birth scene just *really* pushed the boundaries of good taste. But let's all be grateful that nobody was whipped because that might have been too violent! :angry:

Hmmm...maybe it wasn't about the violence after all? Imagine that! :rolleyes: :tired:

Anyway...about DoD: I generally enjoyed it after the crying kids next to me were rescued (right at the beginning in the mall where the zombie has that guy torn open in the sports shop). I thought the nudity was totally gratuitous and detracted from the film. I liked how much homage was payed to the original without being a scene-by-scene remake; I think it takes more skill as a writer/director to "re-imagine" a film (and it be a good movie) than to just remake it. The posthumous writing on the white board in blood, the bite out of the jugular in the first zombie moment, the preacher telecast, etc, etc. And the ending during the credits payed respects to the original Night of the Living Dead.

thjimmy
03/21/2004, 20:09
Miraclo,
Thanks for the input. We stayed through the end of the credits, so there was that closure. I just felt they had a lot of opportunities to explain something or show an origin or something.

For instance - There were multiple times when water appeared to be a key factor to the story, but it never materialized.

I also thought the amount of extraneous characters was a bit much. I just didn't care about anyone by the end.

proditor
03/21/2004, 20:20
I was underwhelmed by the whole thing. I didn't hate it or anything, I just kinda shrugged at the end and went "Well, that was okay. It was pretty to watch at least."

I'm not comparing it to the original, because as someone said earlier, they are two COMPLETELY different films. But while the action was fine, I had some problems with the characters and the way it all played out.

Still, it's a decent flick for it's type and the effects are top notch. Oh, the lounge version of "Down with the sickness" was by Richard Cheese and his band "Lounge against the Machine" They have many many more covers and they are almost all brilliant.

turdburglar47
03/21/2004, 20:37
The fact that nothing is ever explained about the zombie thing makes it BETTER.

Makes it scarier. Nothing is scarier than the unknown.

I saw it Friday and I keep dreaming about being stuck in a zombie world like that. How I'd react, where I'd run to.

Depending on how snotty you want to be, it's either a total rip off of "28 Days Later" or the perfect companion piece. "28 Days Later" is what happened in Britain, and "Dawn of the Dead" is the same situation, but in Milwaukee.

The advertisements for "28 Days Later" said the director had 'reinvented zombie horror.' This zombie movie coming out right after it using the same diseased-savage-fast-zombie formula would tend to prove that right.

thugit
03/21/2004, 20:54
28 Days Later was pretty overrated.

theSHOWDOWN
03/21/2004, 20:56
Yeah, I would venture to say that not knowing how it works is absolutely key to the movie working. Just look at Resident Evil - it was a bad movie for several reasons, but the biggest was how desperately it was trying to be taken seriously.

That sort of thing works for some movies (Jurassic Park; Minority Report), but it's human nature to be afraid of what's unfamiliar, so when you remove that from a horror movie, you're failing to exploit humanity's most common fear. That's why horror films often deal with the occult, inexplicably ubiquitous slashers, and bizarre circumstances.

miridor
03/21/2004, 20:59
I usually do not like to go see remakes of any kind, But I've got to say that I loved this one. It kept up the adrenalin throughout the entire move. I think it defiantly stands up with the first one.

Drashia
03/21/2004, 21:11
Never saw the original, but I did rent House of the Dead for a tune up for this one.

Dawn of the Dead is a lot better than house for many reasons. Action, better acting, filming. Though House did have more breast scenes, more of a story and Bif Naked.

Overall I was pleasantly surprised with Dawn. House was pretty hokey, as expected.

joedirt18
03/21/2004, 22:50
I thought it was good. I liked it better than the original, only because the story moved much faster and the special effects were great. I also liked how they decided to leave the mall instead of just staying until you have 2 people left. The only bad thing was every character that I liked died. Plus I usually like it when there is hope in the end. But no. Still it was a great zombie movie, helluva better one than 28 Days Later. :p

Gacy's Clown
03/22/2004, 10:33
When are people gonna realize that 28 Days Later wasn't a "zombie" film? They were infected, diseased humans, not undead.

thugit
03/22/2004, 10:35
Originally posted by Gacy's Clown
When are people gonna realize that 28 Days Later wasn't a "zombie" film? They were infected, diseased humans, not undead.


True, but "zombie" is the best term to describe them....

Gacy's Clown
03/22/2004, 10:37
When they lowered the dog to take food to Andy, was anyone else waiting for a Chinese zombie or two to go eat him?
Of course it was in Wisconsin, so there may not be many of them in the population there.....

Gacy's Clown
03/22/2004, 10:41
Originally posted by thugit
True, but "zombie" is the best term to describe them....

It's misleading in the fact that movie zombies are the undead, not mindless, diseased people running around...which by definition would probably be a...zombie....hmm...*scratches head*:ermm:

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 10:54
I am a zombie nut so to speak. I have every RES game there is, Now those Zombies are infected with the T virus. The difference is, in RES and DOD the infected die first and then come back as an undead.

However in 28 days I don't recall the infected dieing first. they just became infected and instantly became.......rabid I guess you could say. They weren't actually undead.

thugit
03/22/2004, 10:59
Well, the big question is....

When did Sarah Polley become so hot?

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 11:12
Uummmm friday at 10pm for me.:p

theSHOWDOWN
03/22/2004, 12:14
When did Sarah Polley become so hot?

Never. The whole super-jacked-up teeth thing just didn't do it for me.

Doomtoy
03/22/2004, 12:16
1. I thought it wasn't a bad movie, if you didn't expect too much from it. Not a GREAT movie, but not a bad one.

2. What's the deal with zombies who wouldn't eat a dog? Man, I expected that to be a total lunchfest.

3. I found it extremely irritating that if you die from any reason other than a zombie bite, you don't come back. Huh? To me, one of the most terrifying things about the originals was that apparently, something or someone had rewritten one of the basic laws of nature -- "dead" doesn't mean "harmless" any more! It also creates the question of "howtheheck did the disease spread so fast, if only zombie bites can spread it?" The original DOTD gave the impression it took MONTHS for civilization to completely collapse...

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 12:26
It spread so fast due to the ability of the Zombies. 9 out 0f 10 zombie movies depict zombies being slow moving and dumb. While these zombies did have a one tract mind they were very quick and seemed to find a way to get what they wanted.

I will say that the zombies not eating the dog did shock me. One of my favorite scenes from ROTNOTLD was when they see the Zombie in the pet shop with a hand full of eaten cats. It did however make for a good reason for Andy to be bitten.

Also it seemed that what ever was turning people was transmitted through blood via the bites and scratches. The zombies were killed by trauma to the head. Most of those who died by other causes in the movie were either mangled or blown up so they really had no chance of coming back anyway.

miridor
03/22/2004, 12:44
the only ting that got me was when Ving Rhames character was attacked in the mall (when he fell into the fountain), he received a cut to his arm and they focused in on that and the zombies blood in the water. I was thinking he was going to turn into a zombie also, but they seemed to just drop that altogether.

de4dp00l
03/22/2004, 13:50
Yeah, several of the characters were drenched in zombie blood, including the nurse who was covered in her husband's blood in the first few minutes of the movie, and nothing ever happened to them. Apparently, only bites infect you.

To me, the movie was entertaining and action packed, and definately worth seeing. But it was packed with plot holes and the characters were just plain stupid for the most part. I put it on par with Resident Evil. Great action movie, but not in the least thought provoking.

AZS
03/22/2004, 14:41
What I got from the bite/death thing was this:

If you were bitten and then died, you turned into a zombie. Yes, the bite-infection was lethal on its own, but if you died otherwise, you come back with an unholy appetite.

The only example of this is the husband in the opening sequence. He died from bleeding out. Yeah it was caused by a bite, but he really bled out and died in a minute. Other cases where the infection from the bite killed the person it took several hours or days to kill them.
So supposedly, of you were bitten, and then shot in the heart, you'd turn into a zombie. If you weren't bitten, and just die (ie; not exposed to the infection) then you're not coming back later for a snack.


Overall I thought the movie was excellent. And I'm not a huge horror fan. But this was kick ###, the characters that were developed were done well, the rest were zombie fodder.

The one thing I didn't get was why the people didn't wear more protective clothing? They established early on that the bite infects, so why would they go outside in short sleave shirts? I'd be layered up in Leather jackets from the departments stores, pads from the sporting goods store, etc.
But then again, I guess you can't aply too much logic to a movie about the reanimated dead. :rolleyes:

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 15:17
Originally posted by azs
The one thing I didn't get was why the people didn't wear more protective clothing? They established early on that the bite infects, so why would they go outside in short sleave shirts? I'd be layered up in Leather jackets from the departments stores, pads from the sporting goods store, etc.
But then again, I guess you can't aply too much logic to a movie about the reanimated dead. :rolleyes:

EXACTLY my thoughts!

Also how the hell are you in a sporting goods store and the best thing you can find is a crochet mallet? I will say some of the logic that they used was a bit idiotic.

You had a mall at your expense and you couldn't do better? Although they did hook up those busses quite nicely.
:p

AZS
03/22/2004, 16:09
Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
You had a mall at your expense and you couldn't do better? Although they did hook up those busses quite nicely.
:pThat was one of the things I had a problem with. That bit was waaay to "A-Team" for me.
They could come up with these crazy battle vans, but never thought to make zombie killing machines? Or even some pully thing to sent supplies over to Andy?

Poor Andy.

New Warrior
03/22/2004, 16:34
Great Movie But...

How did they get in the mall. U see them enter the mall through a store window but how did they get into a store?

I liked how they teased you with the Ving Raimes scratch and the guy that everyone said was bit but claimed he fell only to be true that he fell. Made you that parnoid.

Hated the dog,(When they lowered it down I was remembered of part in Jurasic Park lowering the cow to the raptors) and the Security guard that wanted to tap the fat girl from the DQ. Laughed when he died.

Didnt Andy have enough bullets, being at a gun shop, to cleanse humanity from the undead.

I also agreed with the "What no leather or chainmail?" thought.

Like how they killed the Fodder with the chainsaw.

Ending left it open to a sequal considering *Spoiler* the camera was only dropped

Me and some other guy laughed when zombie baby died.

Laughed at how fast Fat Zombie Lady was.

Really enjoyed the movie, wish we knew how the little girl was infected in the begining.

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 16:36
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. What about a potato launcher of some sorts? Just shoot him a line or maybe a remote controlled airplane. They could have come up with some thing. Oh well still a great movie just some minor hiccups is all.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 17:03
Originally posted by New Warrior
How did they get in the mall. U see them enter the mall through a store window but how did they get into a store?

We presumed that as a cop had a set of master keys to grant him access to at least some of the stores, though it would have made more sense that he'd have a set that would open main entrances rather than one of the individual units.

Originally posted by New Warrior
I also agreed with the "What no leather or chainmail?" thought.

That's one of my standard gripes for any of these movies. The only time I've seen someone really gear up properly was for a brief stretch in 28 Days Later... [/i]and then they stopped doing it[/i]?!

As for getting food to Andy, the distance seemed entirely too far to consider trying to launch a line over and set up a pulley system. What I was thinking was to hit one of the card/gift shops for helium and a cluster of balloons (to supply lift), a hobby shop for a remote-controlled plane (to control the direction, and a sporting goods store for some lightweight, high-test line to serve as an anchor. It would be an outlandish rig, but barring strong winds in the wrong direction it should have been something they could finesse in an afternoon. One might have to shoot out some of the balloons or crash-dive the plane to get it on target, but, well --- it's what I would have tried long before I would have sent the dog over.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 17:06
Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. What about a potato launcher of some sorts? Just shoot him a line or maybe a remote controlled airplane. They could have come up with some thing. Oh well still a great movie just some minor hiccups is all.

As you can see, I was thinking along the remote-controlled airplane line, too, though I knew it would need something to supply some lift for the payload unless we were just trying to fly him something very small.

thugit
03/22/2004, 17:09
I just kept thinking.......


























When did Sarah Polley get so hot?

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 17:15
Originally posted by Miraclo
As you can see, I was thinking along the remote-controlled airplane line, too, though I knew it would need something to supply some lift for the payload unless we were just trying to fly him something very small.


Well I was thinking just tie a rope to the plane. Fly over the rope, then Andy could run the rope through a hook and they could bring the plane back. And there you go a pulley system.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 17:16
Originally posted by thugit
I just kept thinking.......

When did Sarah Polley get so hot?

Where do she and a -- excuse me, The C-Note Superman come in on the hotness scale?


...not that there's anything wrong with that...

PantherPriest
03/22/2004, 17:17
I liked the humanity of it. For a zombie movie it was very well written, there was like character development and sht. CJ was my favorite in the end. Everyone's journey seemed very human and the struggle to survive was very real to me.

Also I came home to see the movie, in the small town of Kalamazoo Michigan (much Milwakee only less hicks.) In this town+ suburbs of about 80,000 or so we only have 1 good mall. That mall is named Crossroads mall and it's been in operation for years before my birth. This was the name of the mall that our heroes holed up. When we saw the mall the entire crowd burst up laughing.

thugit
03/22/2004, 17:19
Originally posted by Miraclo
Where do she and a -- excuse me, The C-Note Superman come in on the hotness scale?


...not that there's anything wrong with that...


Well, if I weren't married, I'd trade Supes for Sarah Polley.


I wouldn't pay more than a $100, though.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 17:44
Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
Well I was thinking just tie a rope to the plane. Fly over the rope, then Andy could run the rope through a hook and they could bring the plane back. And there you go a pulley system.

My impression from some of the shots was that it would have been too far to expect a pulley line system to work well. Trying to establish sufficient tension on the line to keep it from sagging and all at that distance might take a terribly high strength cable, especially without one or more support towers with their own pulleys in between.

Still, if they could get a line across that would probably be enough. Once there was a rope line across they could tie a backpack or something smaller to it, and try hurling it out while Andy furiously hauled in the line. Especially if they thinned out the crowd a little first with some firebombs, he should have a good shot at dragging a 10 pound pack of supplies across.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 17:51
If nothing else, we're agreed that they should have been able to get Andy some food. The only excuse I can think of, and its a weak one, is that it might not have occurred to anyone that he didn't have food until he wrote "So hungry" on his messageboard upon hearing that they were 5 days from being ready to move out. Even then, that the dog was the best they could think up in even the short term was a little weak.

(I'm just realizing how this thread slowly shifted to being peppered with spoilers.)

Not anything to do directly with that, but as they kept this down to 100 minutes I wonder how many scenes - mostly character development ones - were shot but had to be left for the DVD?

AZS
03/22/2004, 17:53
I was thinking that Andy should have had a bow and arrow in his shop that he could have shot a line over with.
As an engineer myself, I could see a pulley system working. If there was a Sears type store there (they got a lot of tools somewhere) then there would be a good supply of high strength rope.

Even so, I was also thinking "Canned food trebuchet!"
But then again, I watch a lot of TLC, and actually know how to build a trebuchet, I suppose not everyone does.
:p

AZS
03/22/2004, 17:56
When I checked the movie times on friday I could have sworn it was 140 minutes.
It certainly seemed long.

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 18:00
Well I was also trying to figure out why Andy waited so long to let them know he had no food. He seemed like a pretty well prepared guy. You would have thought he would have said something when he had like 3 days worth of food left.

thugit
03/22/2004, 18:04
Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
Well I was also trying to figure out why Andy waited so long to let them know he had no food. He seemed like a pretty well prepared guy. You would have thought he would have said something when he had like 3 days worth of food left.


He forgot about food. He was just thinking about Sarah Polley.

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 18:08
Also I saw one of you say something about the amount of ammo Andy probably had.......having worked at Bass Pro a huge gun store. Andy probably had at the least 50,000 total rounds in his store. Now that’s all together so I'm talking everything from 22's to 8 gauge shells. I will say that combined with the fact that the mall had it's own gas pump in the basement. They probably could have taken just about all of those zombies out. I would have it would have been a blast. no pun intended.

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 18:11
Originally posted by thugit
He forgot about food. He was just thinking about Sarah Polley.

Well she was wearing a sexy dress.........in the middle of a ZOMBIE CRISIS! cute.....yea, dumb..........you bet.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 18:15
Originally posted by azs
When I checked the movie times on friday I could have sworn it was 140 minutes.
It certainly seemed long.

From checking, too, I recalled 1 hr 40 minutes being what I read. As for how long it felt, after Return of the King pretty much everything else in the mainstream seems brief.

As for the pulley cable, it still strikes me that the distance would demand too much of the cable, between its own weight and the tension they'd need to keep on it to keep it from sagging to the ground over that distance. It's too difficult to say for sure without the measurements, but it would have to be an almost miraculously strong, lightweight cable material. I don't know that I sufficiently share your faith in Sears these days. ;D

thugit
03/22/2004, 18:16
I didn't get why the zombies were smart enough to try and tip the van over, but not smart enough to try and climb the roof/break locks on the doors.

Gacy's Clown
03/22/2004, 18:18
Are we seriously disecting how to have made a pulley system in this movie? I liked the balloon, remote control plane idea as well. It wouldn't have been hard to get shoot the plane or balloons seeing that Andy was a sniper....

You gotta figure, if they would've been able to get him food this way, then how would've he gotten bit by a zombie or how would've they had a chance to showcase the only purpose of that ugly mutt?

I believe the movie was a mere 97 minutes....over a half hour shorter than the original.:ermm:

Can't wait for the DVD!!!

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 18:28
Originally posted by Gacy's Clown
Are we seriously disecting how to have made a pulley system in this movie?

Let's see... a large group of comics fans, and matters of detail in a work of fiction... ;D Look, it's either this or we reopen the "organic web-shooters" topic.

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 18:30
Originally posted by thugit
I didn't get why the zombies were smart enough to try and tip the van over, but not smart enough to try and climb the roof/break locks on the doors.

Perhaps they were swept up in the moment when the vans tried plowing through them, but that your average zombie is very law-abiding and respectful of property rights. They generally only get out of hand during the playoffs, especially if the ref makes a bad call or if their team wins and they've just eaten a bunch of drunks.

SPLITSECOND
03/22/2004, 18:32
I was entertained by Dawn. I haven't seen a horror film in recent memory that really made he want to look away from the screen (the baby scene) except for that japanese flick called "The Eye".

And, Thugit, I agree with you COMPLETELY. Sarah Polly is HOT! Man...I'd almost wouldn't mind being trapped in a mall with a thong of zombies beating at the doors if it was with her.

SPLITSECOND
03/22/2004, 18:35
That's "Throng" not "Thong" by the way.

Gacy's Clown
03/22/2004, 18:35
Originally posted by Miraclo
Let's see... a large group of comics fans, and matters of detail in a work of fiction... ;D Look, it's either this or we reopen the "organic web-shooters" topic.

Ok, I concede...:laugh:

Miraclo
03/22/2004, 18:38
It's too late, Splitsecond. The thong of zombies is now something lodged in our minds. Given the skeletal look of so many professional models it's surprisingly easy to imagine.

CaptainMarvel
03/22/2004, 18:41
Very wise Gacy...... very wise:p

SPLITSECOND
03/22/2004, 20:12
I guess I just wasn't fast enough, Miraclo. That's sad coming from a Super-Speedster.

AZS
03/22/2004, 22:13
I thought there wasn't enough T&A for a horror flick.

Isn't that a prerequesite?

Or are they changing the rules?
Fast zombies.
No T&A.

What's next? A happy ending? Everyone lives and the zombies become vegans?

Gacy's Clown
03/23/2004, 16:56
That's a very disturbing thought...

I miss my T&A:(

garlinghouse
03/23/2004, 17:02
I can't wait to see THONG OF ZOMBIES
It's gonna be great!

Gacy's Clown
03/23/2004, 17:04
Maybe it'll restore my love of T&A:ermm:

supergoblin
03/23/2004, 17:14
Zombies in thongs restore your love of T and A?
Not possible. Have you ever see your grand mother naked?
Now imganine something ten time wrinklier and starting to decay. Thats a zombie in a thong.

NickFury15
03/23/2004, 17:18
I didn't think it was all that good, I enjoyed the original more.

CaptainMarvel
03/23/2004, 17:33
Originally posted by NickFury15
I didn't think it was all that good, I enjoyed the original more.

Well your an idiot then..........I'm Kidding, I'm kidding. The original was good and tough to beat but I have to disagree with you here. Just matter of opinion I guess.:)

Gacy's Clown
03/24/2004, 00:35
Originally posted by supergoblin
Zombies in thongs restore your love of T and A?
Not possible. Have you ever see your grand mother naked?
Now imganine something ten time wrinklier and starting to decay. Thats a zombie in a thong.

*watches as the sarcasm flies over supergoblin's head and splatters on the wall*

If that's what it takes to restore that love of T&A, then make mine the decaying dead!

Black Manta
03/29/2004, 14:15
If you look at this one as a seperate entity, not affiliated with it's namesake, it's a great addition to the zombie legacy. And sprinting zombies are one of the coolest updates on otherwise stale classic monster ideas!