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Kalel21
03/22/2004, 13:49
Who's the best leader? I'd say it was a tie between:

Optimus Prime
&
Captain America


Who else is an effective leader in the various comic book universes? Who might be better than Optimus or Cap? Opinions?

ASpaceBoyDream
03/22/2004, 14:30
I don't know, but the worst leader has to be Charlie Brown. That baseball team that he and his friends have is a joke.

thedon09
03/22/2004, 14:39
Cap, baby, and Optimus Prime, very good picks Kalel. I'd have to agree with you. Cyclops is up there maybe not quite Cap or OP status, but he's close. Mister Fantastic and Batman.

malchyor
03/22/2004, 14:41
spartan of the wildcats.

the guy isn't a combat leader so much as the single most likely person in comics to actually usher in a new age to his version of earth.

before this i'd never really seen the effects that a high tech company might gradually take over an economy (and through an economy, the world). he's always a few steps ahead of the rest...and is always available to those other groups who take the typical beat-them-into-submission-superhero role, and advise them on their current course of action (and the long term results of that action..).

he's amazing, and the writer's of him doubly so.

rxkid75
03/22/2004, 14:45
Magneto

Kalel21
03/22/2004, 15:11
Originally posted by rxkid75
Magneto

I don't know about Magneto. He has the bad habit of treating at least some of his minions (e.g. Toad) very poorly. Not the best way to inspire loyalty and obediance.

CosmicBeing
03/22/2004, 15:15
Captain American has and always will be the best leader. Not even a question really.

Quade
03/22/2004, 16:02
Captain America, no question...

In fact I'd go as far as saying that Leaderships is one of his "powers"

BigSoph
03/22/2004, 16:11
Superman - JLA
He is inspirational to team mates

Mister Terrific - JSA
Tactician, charismatic, brilliant

Although, despite being a DC fan I agree that Cap is likely the best overall

I always liked the Daredevil where Nuke was on the rampage and they are dealing with the consequences.

"Captain America had a voice that could command gods..."
Cap speaks to Thor, telling him they could use more rain, he didn't want any sparks igniting the broken gas line
"...and does"

ArmoredSaint
03/22/2004, 16:17
Cyclops without a doubt, he doesn't lead Superheroes. He leads soldiers.

Macho Man
03/22/2004, 16:23
papa smerf

DKMTOM1
03/22/2004, 16:25
Besides Cap, what about Dr. Doom.

Shield1776
03/22/2004, 16:35
Leader = Cap, but I can also pay homage to... nope, nevermind. It's all Cap.

webhead817
03/22/2004, 16:41
For your consideration...

Nightwing. Nightwing has led the Teen Titans, Outsiders, and JLA at various times in his career. He was also mentored by one of the best heroes of all time.

Clix776
03/22/2004, 16:46
Originally posted by DKMTOM1
Besides Cap, what about Dr. Doom. In a superhuman setting, Doom doesn't lead: he uses. It may be argued using (I'm guessing) half of his appearances as ruler of Latveria that he's a good leader there, but the other half portray him as a merciless despot who is only interested in having his boots licked.

In terms of the best leader in comics, I must unoriginally cast my vote for Captain America, though Hawkeye's Thunderbolts came VERY close to whupping Cap's Avengers.

Have a Great Day,
Gary E. Poisson

Rando
03/22/2004, 16:49
Captain America and Mr.Terrific

Cap is just amazing, he always seems to know what to do and how to make impossible odds possible.

Mr.Terrific is the lord of information, if there is somethign to know he porbably knows it. He has consturcted fully functioning plans that rely on the use of chaotic systems and highly theoretical physics on more than one occasion. He also employs Batman esque deceptions and detection abilites without any of Batman's aggarvating personality flaws. You think Nightwing is Batman without the baggage, Mr.Terrific really is.

Yeti
03/22/2004, 16:50
President Lex: Anyone that can turn a nation and superheroes against Superman and Batman has some severe leadership skills. That or a really good PR man.

Also great leaders, Cyclops, Cap Amarica, Dr. Ock (hey who else can keep a roomfull of hardened crooks in line?). I would also second Nightwing (when he isn't to "bat" heavy in attitude).

rouge2
03/22/2004, 17:01
you people are obviously forgetting the Doom Patrol's "Chief". Even when he was reduced to just a head, that guy had tactical on the brain 24/7.

ArmoredSaint
03/22/2004, 17:04
I disagree with Mr. Terrific (But then again I hate the character). I think the JSA's resident Chairman Sand is a decent leader but nothing compared to a Cyclops or a Captain America.

JayThor
03/22/2004, 17:14
I second the Papa Smurf vote. Cap leads anywhere from 4 to 12 members. Reed has 3, Supes has 6 or so, Mr. Terrific a few more, but Papa Smurf leads over 100! He knows them all by name, and knows who best to send on a mission. He controls the HUGE variety of personalities with love and patience, and all the smurfs love him. He also manages to keep all the rest from jumping Smurfette. That is true leadership to me!;)




But seriously, Cap is the best, IMO, even though he isn't a favorite of mine.

Gorrack
03/22/2004, 18:29
Optimus Prime is the best. Second by Captain America easy. Than prolly Cyclops.

Magneto is not so much a leader as he is a revolutionary. He is a perfect figure head. He does not do an overwhelming job controlling battle. He is far from poor at it and is incredibly good still, but his presence and message are what make him good. He is motivation. And Magneto is my favorite comic character ever too.

NickFury15
03/22/2004, 18:32
I have to say the best leader in comics is Superman. He pretty much leads all of the heroes in the DC Universe. He is the hero that people set their standards by, and even Batman respects him.

ArmoredSaint
03/22/2004, 18:33
Oooops lol Just read Fair Play and Mr. Terrific got elected Chairman of the JSA. Didn't like that decision, the character really bores me, I'd have prefered Sand retain the role rather than have him one up-ed by Mr. T, kinda a slap in the face to Sand.

Q99
03/22/2004, 18:39
Charon from Crossgen is pretty good. He leads a universe he conquered. Although, he did mention it becomes easier once you have your first galaxy.


In DC/Marvel, Nightwing's definitely up there. He's a good tactician, and people can both look up to and relate to him.

mrtomsmith
03/22/2004, 18:56
I nominate Cosmic Boy. Led more heroes than just about anyone, and did it well.

Cap is by definition the top spot, but even he has some flaws - pushes people too hard, and a bit out of touch with modern ways.

Superman isn't really a leader as much as an inspiration. Everyone looks up to him, but he doesn't tell people what to do. When he does try to take charge, he's too modest and concerned about others to really lead.

Ironic that the Leader isn't really a good leader.

Dr.Notsoevil
03/22/2004, 18:56
I would have to say the leader in comics is MARVEL.....Er....OHHH. You mean person?:cheeky:
That would have to be Cap.

Mabye Nick Fury somewhere in there.
Supes is a good leader 2.

kamui
03/22/2004, 19:02
Captain America
and
Cyclops

Both are great tacticians and they understand they're team-mates powers, strengths and weaknesses. Knowing what to do and who to ask to get the job done.

ArmoredSaint
03/22/2004, 19:08
Yeah I gotta agree Marvel has the best leaders (NOT the best comics). Marvel's characters are less rounded and more vunerable making them more human and in need of leadership. The JLA is a team of leaders, every one of them are leadership material except Plas. The JSA is a little more Avengers like and has a need for a leader. But when it comes down to it every superteam fights for their lives in battle. The X-Men fight for their lives to live a normal life.

Thats why I still say Slim is the best leader in all of comicdom. Hulk's physically the strongest, Flash is the fastest, Batgirl is the best fighter and Cyclops is the best leader.

When it all comes down to it the bigger "Uber teams" like the Avengers, JLA or Outsiders have a collective membership each with personal and heroic lives outside of their teams. The X-Men are a family and Scott has to care deeply for each of them and therefore has to force himself to ensure their survival.

scratchNsniff
03/22/2004, 19:19
Inspirational: Superman
Tactics: Batman
Overall: Cap America

zero_the_hero
03/22/2004, 19:20
Anyone who thinks that Superman is a good leader should read Kingdom Come, when it comes to dealing with people Superman thinks too highly of people and is afraid of making hard choices. He became too indesisive and relied on Wonder Woman.

ArmoredSaint
03/23/2004, 07:01
Yeah I agree, Superman is too kind to lead anyone. He got the job of leader on the original JLA because he is the biggest gun on the team. In all actuality Superman shouldn't be taking orders but shouldn't be giving them either. I think Batman and Martian Manhunter (Despite loathing him) make the best JLA leaders.

skyounkin
03/23/2004, 07:07
After the trail by fire storyline Superman is a great leader- he basically said f### it!! and gave the kill order to take out the renegade Martian Manhunter.....But that's me, and Superman. The "perfect" leader to me would be Captain America, who wouldn't follow this guy into heck and back?

gorillaboss
03/23/2004, 08:15
Amanda Waller, aka "The Wall."

No one is meaner, craftier, or scarier.

Heck, she even made BATMAN back down!

gladiator1518
03/23/2004, 18:44
Originally posted by BigSoph
Superman - JLA
He is inspirational to team mates Superman is an inspiration to all heroes. Not just his JLA teammates.

spidergirl1
03/23/2004, 19:37
No one has said said Prof. X yet?!?!?!? WOW!!!

I would definitley say Prof. X and also Captian America.

RangedCombatEx
03/23/2004, 19:45
DOOM!

All will follow Doom or a great many nut-kicking's shall comence!



J/K

Captain America is hands down the greatest leader to ever grace the four color page.

roon
03/23/2004, 23:19
gotta go with cap, followed closely by cyke.

mick77
03/23/2004, 23:52
Superman could not lead a class of 6 years old to an afternoon at the park.

Batman would not really lead anyone, he would be more "Do this and that and if you don't want to do it, skrew you, I'll find a way to do it without you"

Lex Luthor is a manipulator and has a lot of money to make people do stuff for him.

Nightwing, and Sgt Rock are the best leader in DC fallowed by MM.

As for Marvel, Cap is the best leader because is has alot of experience and he inspires is troops and other superheroes.

Cyclops come in second only because he lacks a little experience and he is a mutant. But he would be has willing as Cap to die for his cause.

Magneto is great, but not agood leader, He puts fear in the eyes of his opponents, but also in the eyes of his supporter. He would be willing to die for his cause, only if could not sacrifice someone first.

Doom is just a dictator.

Overall, Cap America is #1 leader closely followed by Cyclops. And Cyclops will never #1 only because of public image.

GoldenAge
03/23/2004, 23:55
Jenny Sparks!

Now THAT's a woman!!!!!!!!!!

Wyldstaar
03/24/2004, 00:09
Best Marvel Heroic Leader- Captain America
He not only has a commanding presence, but is a shining example to all.

Best Marvel Villain Leader- Doctor Doom
He inspires fear in opponents and minions alike.

Best DC Heroic Leader- Batman
Batman has the respect of everyone in the DCU regardless of how much they like or dislike him. Even though Superman is technically the leader of the JLA, if Batman gave a contradictory order it would be Batman's order that was followed over Supes.
Best DC Villain Leader- Lex Luthor
Lex is a perfect example of the belief that anyone who is capable of getting himself elected President should under no circumstances be allowed to hold the office.

gladiator1518
03/24/2004, 03:09
Originally posted by mick77
Superman could not lead a class of 6 years old to an afternoon at the park. Yeah right. That's why both the veteran and the OWAW Superman both have 11 clicks of Leadership. It's obvious you're just another Superman hater. Welcome to my ignore list.

I admit that Superman may not be the best military leader. Captain America,Wonder Woman,and even Batman may be better in that respect. As zero_the_hero pointed out,in Kingdom Come he wasn't very decisive in making combat decisions. Yet he was still as Wonder Woman said "a world leader".

In Action Comics Annual#3 Superman was even elected as PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. And anyone who has read this comic knows that he served that position extremely well. The only other hero who didn't like him being the Commander in Chief was the punk Guy Gardner. He made a big mistake attacking the man of steel. Superman defeated him in short order and the guardians of the universe sent Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart to get Gardner and bring him back to OA. Where he became a prisoner. I recommend this comic to anyone who likes Superman. It's a great read.

gladiator1518
03/24/2004, 03:32
I'd also like to add that in Kingdom Come all the other heroes followed Superman's lead to come out of retirement. As Wonder Woman said "...Our generation takes it's lead from you. We always have.You must face this. If you don't,neither will the rest of us..."

Ro-gan
03/24/2004, 03:43
My vote is for Captain America.

IMHO, I don't believe robots (Optimus Prime and Spartan) make great leaders.

They are too rational and too inhuman. Sometimes having that touch of irrational behavior/actions is what it takes to win a battle.

Good Point:

Chess and Tic Tac To.

If you pit 2 computers against each other than you will have a draw every time.

If you pit man vs a computer than their will be a winner most of the time:

1) Man- unusual move that is not logical to the computer.

2) Computer- man makes a mistake.

Dr. Morbius
03/24/2004, 03:53
Definitely Cap. But even he will learn his place when ADAM WARLOCK is in the house.

4AD_Punk
03/24/2004, 04:01
Originally posted by ArmoredSaint
Oooops lol Just read Fair Play and Mr. Terrific got elected Chairman of the JSA. Didn't like that decision, the character really bores me, I'd have prefered Sand retain the role rather than have him one up-ed by Mr. T, kinda a slap in the face to Sand.

I respect your opinion.

However, I must come to the defense of Mr. Terrific!

Michael Holt is not boring. How can a guy with a "T" on his face and a leather biker jacket be boring?

However, more importantly: Mr. Terrific is exciting because he carries the legacy of Terry Sloane and adheres to the "fair play" legend. He is necessary and relevant.

However, it was surprising he was voted Chairman of the JSA over Sandy Hawkins. And admittedly, Mr. Terrific is not the best leader of all-time. However, respect to the person whose loyalty to the JSA spawned the nomination.

mick77
03/25/2004, 00:04
I forgot a great DC leader : Aquaman, he is a king after all, a better leader than Namor.

techdog
03/25/2004, 02:44
Cap is the best leader in Comics, hands down.

Nightwing is an underrated and wonderful leader as well.

Gen Rock and Nick Fury also have to get some props, both are wonderful leaders where soldiers are concerned, and I think that most anyone in the comics would follow them into battle.

EVIL CAP
03/25/2004, 06:08
Captain America virtually Defines Leadership and competence.He takes this one easy

Honorable mention

Nightwing-Most of Batmans strengths and none of his paranoia.Everything from the Titans the JLA brifely to the Outsiders have benifited from him
Superman-BUT only if he is written well.The Man of Steel should be a great leader but is usually written too poorly to carry a team
Magneto-He treated a couple guys like dirt mostly because of customary super villain writing but he HAS inspired near godlike revernce and his stint on Genosa was big too

Overrated

Prof.X/Cyclops-Their vaunted dream went in the toilet years ago
Doom-Much as i like Doom he ISNT a leader he mearly has underlings that will serve his purposes briefly.Its not like Doom loses here its just that DOOM NEEDS NO ONE

4AD_Punk
03/25/2004, 06:27
Apparently, WizKids thinks Superman is the ultimate leader: 11 consecutive clicks of leadership.

Excessive or lazy; I'm still trying to figure it out.

JayThor
03/25/2004, 09:11
Originally posted by 4AD_Punk
Apparently, WizKids thinks Superman is the ultimate leader: 11 consecutive clicks of leadership.

Excessive or lazy; I'm still trying to figure it out. Lazy. He would have been better made with CCE instead. Leadership+200 points+ Free Movement TA= Not well thought out.

EvilGenius
03/25/2004, 10:36
Captain America wins the Leadership Challance, hands down. NO ONE, in ANY univere can hold a candle to him. Partially that's because Cap's been in our collective comic consciousness for a long long time, and always as a leader, always as an inspiration. And when he's written into other comics, almost every hero in the Marvel U reacts like, "Whoa. Captain AMERICA is here! What do you want us to do, sir?"

Superman has the makings of a great leader, but he only takes charge when things are in really dire straights. Because he's so powerful, if he really chose to LEAD

EvilGenius
03/25/2004, 10:40
Whoops! As I was saying ...

"Superman has the makings of a great leader, but he only takes charge when things are in really dire straights. Because he's so powerful, if he really chose to LEAD..."

then he would be the King of Earth. But Superman preferres to step back, precisely because he IS so powerful. That's one of his personality traits that makes him so inspirational. He doesn't use his vast power to make others irrelevant, and he willingly submits to earthly authorites (most of the time).

CyberVenom
03/25/2004, 10:53
Here's my rundown of the Top 10 Comic Book Leaders:

1. Captain America
2. Nick Fury
3. Batman
4. Sgt. Rock
5. Black Bolt
6. Superman
7. Aquaman
8. Lex Luthor
9. Richard Grayson
10. Magneto

gladiator1518
03/25/2004, 11:02
Originally posted by EvilGenius
Whoops! As I was saying ...

"Superman has the makings of a great leader, but he only takes charge when things are in really dire straights. Because he's so powerful, if he really chose to LEAD..."

then he would be the King of Earth. But Superman preferres to step back, precisely because he IS so powerful. That's one of his personality traits that makes him so inspirational. He doesn't use his vast power to make others irrelevant, and he willingly submits to earthly authorites (most of the time). Well put,EvilGenius.

JayThor
03/25/2004, 14:55
Originally posted by CyberVenom
Here's my rundown of the Top 10 Comic Book Leaders:

1. Captain America
2. Nick Fury
3. Batman
4. Sgt. Rock
5. Black Bolt
6. Superman
7. Aquaman
8. Lex Luthor
9. Richard Grayson
10. Magneto Gotta disagree with you old buddy. Batman is a terrible leader. He didn't do well in Outsiders or JL. He is a soloist who expects everyone to do what he says. That isn't an inspirational leader. He is no better than Doom in that regard. Fury is ok, since he does lead a cast of hundreds. Kinda like Papa Smurf with a cigar. Black Bolt is definitely up there. How many people could lead without ever saying a word?

My own list:
1. Captain America- far above the rest
2. Nightwing- been doing it since he was a kid in the Teen Titans
3. Black Bolt
4. Magneto
5. Nick Fury
6. Professor X- anyone who inspires Wolverine to follow him must be good.
7. Thor- recent storyline knocks him down my list
8. Martian Manhunter- patience, patience, patience
9. Aquaman- he rules Atlantis, now, but had plenty problems there and JLA in the 80's
10. Cosmic Boy- the first, best leader of the LSH

Kalel21
03/25/2004, 15:00
Gotta defend Optimus Prime as a leader, since he's not showing up on any of the top-ten lists. (He's a comic book character as well as animated character, so I think he qualifies.) The thing that made me think to start this list is an interview on the latest DVD box set of original Transformers cartoons. One of the writers described Optimus as the best leader character in animation and told a story where another writer compared him to Abraham Lincoln. It's a good comparison. Like Lincoln, Optimus keeps a level head in a crisis and is able to deal effectively with a whole lot of fractious personalities, getting them all to work together as a team. These are qualities that he also showed in the comics.

Optimus and Captain America. The best leaders in comics.

mick77
03/25/2004, 15:07
my list
01- Cap America
02- Cyclops
03- Nightwing
04- Aquaman
05- MM
06- Nick Fury
07- Prof X
08- WW
09- Hawkeye
10- Cable

Grappler
03/25/2004, 15:18
1. Captain America: Single guy with little capital.(But rich in adoration!)
2. Nick Fury: Not bad, going from a sarge in the army to head of a nations spy sector.
3. Batman: Captain America if he started rich.
4. Sgt. Rock: Can't knock respected soldiers!
5. Black Bolt: Leads an entire race without being able to talk. Very Impressive. But it was still given to him.
6. Superman: His greatest choice was choosing good over evil. After that, after only having cryptonite able to hurt you, you should be able to produce.
7. Aquaman: Namor would be just as good a leader, but you try explaining those wings and pointed ears!
8. Lex Luthor: Yes, his business dealings are to be commended.
9. Richard Grayson: Working his way up to "Tricky ####"
10. Magneto: Could be the greatest argument! (a la opponent)

BUT THE GREATEST LEADER IS:
DR. DOOM!!!!!!!!!
Who else starts as a college student and ends up Monarch of his own country! It wasn't given to him, he did it the old fashioned way, HE EARNED IT!

Wyldstaar
03/25/2004, 16:52
Originally posted by JayThor
Gotta disagree with you old buddy. Batman is a terrible leader. He didn't do well in Outsiders or JL. He is a soloist who expects everyone to do what he says. That isn't an inspirational leader. He is no better than Doom in that regard.

I gotta disagree with your reasoning there, though some of your points are accurate. Batman is indeed a soloist who expects others to do as they're told, and isn't very inspirational. People follow Batman's lead for other reasons. Their experience with him allows others to know that if Batman has a plan, it's going to work- period. Batman doesn't go to the can without a back-up plan. Sure, people make fun of him behind his back for being spooky and intimidating, but when it hits the fan Batman is who will pull your fat out of the frier. He doesn't disrespect those who don't deserve it either. Is he the perfect leader? No. He doesn't inspire like Captain America or Superman, but when it comes to organization of the team and planning strategy Batman beats all others every time.

JayThor
03/25/2004, 18:03
Wyldstaar- you just gave reasons for why he shouldn't be considered a top leader. As with Reed Richards, he is smart/clever, and has good plans. he just has to turn them over to someone like Cap to execute them most efficiently.

SumYungGai
03/25/2004, 18:48
Originally posted by ro_gan

IMHO, I don't believe robots (Optimus Prime and Spartan) make great leaders.

They are too rational and too inhuman. Sometimes having that touch of irrational behavior/actions is what it takes to win a battle.

You di . . wha . . . huh? I don't know who this Spartan fellow is, but Optimus Prime? He is ALL heart, buddy. Go read some of the new Dreamwave stuff. It's easily accessible and shows you what kind of leader Optimus is. He's like a mix of the regular Captain America (well-intentioned, tactically minded, and wants the best for every one) and the Ultimates Captain America (no-nonsense veteran who is willing to do what it takes to bring his buddies back alive).

Wyldstaar
03/25/2004, 18:52
Originally posted by JayThor
Wyldstaar- you just gave reasons for why he shouldn't be considered a top leader. As with Reed Richards, he is smart/clever, and has good plans. he just has to turn them over to someone like Cap to execute them most efficiently.

In the end it's not the leader who executes a plan, it's the troops.

blksuperman2
03/25/2004, 19:47
Superman is a leader- especially after his death. It's hard to respect someone who is so powerful that when they go into battle they know that there wouldn't be a scratch on them. But to realize that he could lay down his life to save the world I think most if not all of DC would follow supes into battle.

Batman is by nature a loner who inexplicably inspires young teens and adolescents to follow him. This doesn't constitute being a leader. It's a little creepy actually. Yes when he's in a group setting like in the JLA he obviously has the best plan of attack. But Batman finds weaknesses in every opponent that doesn't mean that he's a leader.

Anyone who thinks Cyclops is a good leader should've been around in the '80s this guy was awlful. Not only did Storm take his title but when he finally regrouped and formed X-Factor he left angel behind who then got captured by the Morlocks (or Maraurders or whoever they called themselves) and they destroyed his wings.) A good leader dosen't leave his troops.......period Then you take in account how many times Jean has died and you wonder why anyone would follow this guy.

Anyway CPT America is the best

eltigrediablo
03/25/2004, 20:10
My top leader picks (not in any order)

*Mina Harker - without her, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen would never get anything accomplished. Their mutual admiration, respect, affection, and devotion to her made them a special group.

*Captain America - well, he's written as the consumate leader, so he'd have to be on this list.

*Sgt. Rock - The man got the best out of Easy Co., all the time, over and over again.

*Amanda Waller - She led the Suicide Squad through bullying, intimidating, outwitting, mistrusting, and impossibly, gaining the respect of the assorted scum in her charge. The woman had brass.

*Conan the Barbarian - don't laugh! Read the long long series of comics in which he was a general in service to the Rebel Prince of Koth, or when he was the Besieger of Cities in Savage Sword of Conan...that guy could lead an army. He's a consumate loner, but proved to be a great leader as well. There was never any doubt as to who was in charge when Conan was around.

AlaskanXIII
03/25/2004, 20:18
Whoa, hey, watch that smack talk about Cyclops. Remember that writers come and go, but the characters' essential traits remain the same. The early X-Factor stuff was horrendous; Scott ditching Madeline and Nathan to run to Jean was totally out-of-character. Much of how we perceive characters comes from the spin individual writers put on them. Although his recent work on New X-Men is at times simply horrendous, Grant Morrison did note in his latest possible future that when Cyclops gave up on the dream, the X-Men fell completely apart and the human race was eventually exterminated. Pretty high praise from a writer who has already admitted he doesn't know the characters that well. But Scott's role as a leader is as much a part of him as his optic blasts.

Scott is a born commander because he can instantly evaluate and make tough tactical decisions without hesitation, plus there's nothing he'd send anyone to do that he doesn't have the guts to do himself; he's also a good (though not great) leader in peacetime because of his determination and unwavering commitment to both the team and its goals.

Wolverine has said on more than one occasion that Cyclops was the one guy he'd want with him in any situation, which is about as ringing an endorsement as you can get in Marvel, especially considering their personality clashes in the past!

Grinner
03/25/2004, 20:37
I think we've got a lot of good leaders out there, and I also disagree with some on the lists in here. But I have noticed that two names keep coming up over and over, and they match my choices too. And most conveniently there's one each for Marvel & DC!

Captain America - the best leader over-all. Possibly his greatest power. Heck, if worst came to worst you know that even the villians would follow his orders without question.

Nightwing - DC's best leader. He's been leading hero teams most of his life, he's got the plan-within-a-plan mentality of Batman without (usually) the attitude. For all of those saying Batman is a better leader, remember this - Batman himself, on more than one occassion and in many different titles, says that Richard Grayson is a much better leader than he is.

lukebuchanan
03/25/2004, 20:41
I think Titania is a great leader. Thanks,

Luke B. almost there

DemonRS
03/25/2004, 20:45
I think there is no better leader than... THE leader

Kalel21
04/07/2004, 11:35
MINOR JLA/AVENGERS SPOILER:

In the final issue of JLA/AVENGERS, when the two groups teamed up to save both their universes, Superman declares that they need one set leader for the assault on the villian's stronghold. He then instantly suggests Captain America for this role. All the JLAers (including Batman) and Avengers instantly agree.

I realize that this is just the opinion of one writer, but it does back up the opinions of many on this thread that Cap is hands down the best leader in comics.

Superego Lad
04/07/2004, 13:29
What about Maxwell Lord? The JLA just isn't the same without him.