Summer Convention Updates!

[Draddog]

<P ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="3" CLASS="HEADER"><B>Summer Convention Updates!</FONT></B><BR><I>by Dorcas Bean and Jason Mical</I><P>With the days getting longer and warmer, the summer convention season is just around the corner. Convention season is always exciting, and the 2004 season will not be an exception. With an enormous demand for the Galactus figure, great events, and the conclusion to this year’s Path to Glory championships, the summer is going to be hotter than ever! As such, we wanted to take the opportunity to update you on our plans for this season.<P>First, to help meet the large demand for Galactus, we have begun producing more of this popular figure. While supplies will still be limited and we cannot guarantee every convention-goer a Galactus figure, we will be bringing increased numbers of them to most conventions. Be sure to check the convention schedule on our website for notes and updates as the season develops.<P>Along with Galactus, we will be bringing limited quantities of last year’s Aurora-Class DropShip, to a few select conventions this year. Additionally, the EU version of Indy HeroClix will make its debut in the United States at summer conventions. Again, check the convention schedule on our website for notes and updates.<P>And finally, due to overwhelming consumer demand for WizKids attendance at a convention in the Southeast, we be attending DragonCon 2004 in Atlanta, GA. WizKids will send Approved Play staff to assist in the tournament area, and we will be offering our exclusive convention pieces from a small retail booth in the exhibit hall.<P>As the season progresses, we will update the convention schedule at www.wizkidsgames.com with news, information, and changes. For the latest convention news, be sure to check that page regularly.

[shock man x]

Hm, mabey we'll see more of the EU indy figures up for sale on e-bay now with them being available in cons.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Originally posted by Draddog
<P ALIGN="CENTER"><FONT SIZE="3" CLASS="HEADER"><B>Summer Convention Updates!</FONT></B><P>Additionally, the EU version of Indy HeroClix will make its debut in the United States at summer conventions.


Wheeee!

[darius_dax1]

Evil, evil WizKids...how dare you bring your cheesy wares to the SouthWest?!?!?!?!? How dare you make the EU Indy exclusives availiable in the US?!?!?!?!?!? How dare you bring MORE Galacti to these conventions?!?!?!?!? How dare you listen to the demands of your fans/customers?!?!?!?!?!?[/sarcasm]

[JtHM_Dude]

hurrah
Judges

i wonder if they will just sell bosters or individuals

hopefully there will be enough galacti

[VetLogan]

Wow!! More Galacti! EU available in the US! Great news!

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Draddog
[BAnd finally, due to overwhelming consumer demand for WizKids attendance at a convention in the Southeast, we be attending DragonCon 2004 in Atlanta, GA.[/B]Now what about the Northwest?

[Socko]

i dont mean to be shallow, but i hope this shuts some one up...

[turdburglar47]

Yes.

I am happy for the EU Indyclix. Although are they just available in booster form, or can we get 'em individually?

I want that big crazy rhino guy Nemesis! And all the judges I can get my hands on!

[batfink]

Will the Indy US exclusives be avail. for the UK Cons?

[VetLogan]

Holy carp!! I almost missed it!! Wizkids in Atlanta GA for DragonCon!! This is the greatest thread I've ever seen on HCRealms!!!

[tyroclix]

WK is going to be at a Southern Convention.

Making more Galactuses.

Indy UK will finally be here.

Let the complaining, whining, and quitting commence...

[pezdork]

whatever!

mabye ill get some eu indy at san diego!

personally i still hope they have riots all over. call me selfish but why couldnt they have these things worked out before LA? i still am very soured on wizkids but im an addict so until i get my origin addiction started they have me hooked!

[no hands]

WOOHOO!!!!!:p

[thugit]

More Galactus? Bringing European clix here? Listening to consumers? Making the best set yet and calling it Unleashed?


I quit.

[batfink]

I quit.
Can I have your clix?

[odieses]

That kicks so much ### that wizkids is going to be at Dragon con. Big props to wizkids for listening to people.:)

[GroovyBoy]

Can people lay off Dorcas and Jason now? They went to bat for you guys at WizKids and came up with this. Give 'em a hand...

[drgnoftyr]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
Evil, evil WizKids...how dare you bring your cheesy wares to the SouthWest?!?!?!?!? How dare you make the EU Indy exclusives availiable in the US?!?!?!?!?!? How dare you bring MORE Galacti to these conventions?!?!?!?!? How dare you listen to the demands of your fans/customers?!?!?!?!?!?[/sarcasm]
]

dax i am so happy wizkid's picked up dragoncon so don't pick on them hehe ;) ;) ;) :laugh: :laugh: :cool: :cool:

[darius_dax1]

Originally posted by GroovyBoy
Can people lay off Dorcas and Jason now? They went to bat for you guys at WizKids and came up with this. Give 'em a hand... You are right. Hats off to Dorcas and Jason!

[AZS]

Where's the other shoe!?
I don't want to get hit as it drops.








:p j/k. :)

[VetLogan]

Dorcas for Prez!

I hope this reaffirms everyone's in Wizkids as a company.

Now, what about all those Clix quitters?!

[darius_dax1]

Originally posted by azs
Where's the other shoe!? Firmly implanted in some people's mouths. :laugh:

[EvilGenius]

Ohh, I am TOTALLY getting back my love of Wizkids!!! :)

[drgnoftyr]

NOW I DONT HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO PHILLY OR OHIO HEHE

[VetLogan]

I hope this reaffirms everyone's in Wizkids as a company.

That's "everyone's FAITH". (Can't edit.)

[sylentspy]

Originally posted by pezdork
whatever!

mabye ill get some eu indy at san diego!

personally i still hope they have riots all over. call me selfish but why couldnt they have these things worked out before LA? i still am very soured on wizkids but im an addict so until i get my origin addiction started they have me hooked!

here here! im one of those unfortunate few that can only go to west coast cons. im saddened at the lateness this type of things was have be introduced, if it was at WWLA, it would have been a lot, lot lot, better. well at least wizkids is doing something about it... why dont they hold something in seattle, its pretty stupid not to ;).

[Gentlegamer]

Originally posted by GroovyBoy
Can people lay off Dorcas and Jason now? They went to bat for you guys at WizKids and came up with this. Give 'em a hand...

This statement is great. If they do as they've said, WK will win back the hearts of many. Let us see how it really goes . . .

[ultron police5]

WK was -5 in my book but this announcement brings up to -3. Only sad thing is about Galactus lets say they bring 500 more then with this. But people who were thinking of not going will for sure go bring 500 more who waant him. That situation scares me along with WK's word. Hopefully this is will be all true what dorcas and Jason promised.

[HotSauce]

yay! Thank you wizkids. I'm smiling, really.

[ThePope]

I would still like to know numbers. Having a priority number situation like they did on Saturday night in Long Beach would be helpful as well. I know some people think it's weird to go to a convention for just one thing (3 things if you include SS & IG), but that's the only reason I'm going to San Diego. I don't want to go unless I hear some specifics.

I am very happy to see some progress though.

Thanks,

Sean
+<|:-)

[Cheng]

This is good news, but not cause to be overly optimistic. I will join the others in singing the praises of Wizkids when I see the follow-through.

[SmittySue]

So instead of bringing 300, they will bring 400. Sorry I'm not a Wizkids drone. I'll believe it when I see it.

[_Zap_]

Originally posted by DreadDormammu
Now what about the Northwest?

lol
Keep dreaming. It'll never happen.

[Wasteland]

So now all they need to announce is they will be attending a con here in Canada so I can actually get to one.

How about Winnipeg? It's nice and central, and that way I don't have to go anywhere. :)

They UK figs will be nice to have, as long as it's not boosters. Eh. We'll see what happens.

[crownroyal578]

Considering that I am an Atlanta Judge, this would be great news......

...if I hadn't already dropped $700 (non-refundable) on a trip to WWE.

Thanks for the notice, guys.

[shin-goji]

Dragoncon's too big for me. I like nice, small conventions like Animazement.

[Drashia]

Crown: sorry to hear..

Con in Canada? When and where? Apparently they're going to be at CanGames. Or at least Galactus is anyhow, only in prize form... bla... I want to purchase...

Winnipeg, don't think that would happen not enough ppl there. If it's anywhere in western Canada, my bet goes to Edmonton or Vancouver. In eastern Canada, most likely Ottawa or Toronto. WK my preference is for Ottawa. :)

[MSU]

You know, thank you Dorcas for making this announcement. While I was not super peeved at WK (I didn't go to WWLA, retirement does not make my blood boil, and i LOOOVE unleashed), I hope some people will stop their complaining. HA...wishful thinking.

This is what I say...at least they are trying to appease their customer/fan base. Even if they bring 100 more Galactii to the cons, they are brining more, they are bringing UK Indy (something we have yelled for since November) and Drop ships (for those that didn't get it last year) and that is a positive step. So Kudos to WK for at least offering more to us...when really, they didn't. Just my 0.02 cents....

WWE and WW-Chicago here I come!!! Maybe a little Gen-Con and Origins while I am at it....benefit of living in the midwest. :p :confused: :grin:

[skeevo666]

Originally posted by GroovyBoy
Can people lay off Dorcas and Jason now? They went to bat for you guys at WizKids and came up with this. Give 'em a hand...


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:) :cool: :cheeky:

[miridor]

yet another change!!! that’s it I've had it!!! :grin:

good going!

[Fat_Ninja]

I am happily amazed. I think in one fell swoop they have addressed SO many "issues" that it's almost a miracle.

*checks for snow outside*
Nope. It ain't x-mas, but it's real close. My poor fiancee, though. She was SO close to having all the Indy figs. Now she's gonna flip when I tell her about EU Indys being released here.

What can I say? She likes Judges. ;)

[kwsazul]

Try not to break your hand patting Wizkids on the back. There is a thin line between meeting 'overwhelming consumer demand' and damage control. In this case it could be a little of both, who knows. At least they are bringing the Euro judges. I am suprised they could do that with the way Indy flies off the shelf stateside!

This could very well just be me (and it probably is), but I am not the type of person to praise someone for doing something right the SECOND time. They messed up in LA, they apologized (a good thing) and now they are trying to remedy the situation. To me thats not applause worthy, its a step in the right direction. And WK "gracing" us with the opportunity to buy Euro Indy clix that have probably been sitting on the shelves over there just makes me laugh and shake my head.

[Ghost_Rider_92]

UK Indy clix? Could care less about this last ditch attempt to save Indyclix

More Galactus? made my own, why bother now

More dropships that were "limited" last year? who cares now

Still not making me waste my money or time going to cons this year.

[darius_dax1]

...and you can't please everyone all the time.

[darius_dax1]

Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
UK Indy clix? Could care less about this last ditch attempt to save Indyclix

More Galactus? made my own, why bother now

More dropships that were "limited" last year? who cares now

Still not making me waste my money or time going to cons this year. Going to the cons is about more than Galactus. It is the entire experience. If you even got Galactus and that is all you went for then you wasted your money.

[Ghost_Rider_92]

Okay, I think I may need a disclaimer dislaiming my disclaimer..hmm to think people can actually READ these posts...

[daredevil11]

Very nice - amazing actually. Kudos to the convention staff in attempting to address some concerns. I'm particularly happy that the southeast region is getting a supported convention, for my players sake. Unfortunately, I still can't go...I'm planning the big, much delayed family trip to Disney World so that's where my travel money has to go this year...maybe next year. However, the release of UK Indy may open some ebay opportunities for me minus cross ocean shipping - so kudos on that as well.

[Ghost_Rider_92]

BTW, Galactus and thier ilk is called a draw. WK uses stuff like this to draw crowds and customers to the conventions. If the past created a BAD taste for the galactus and the whole con going experience since most people had to wait the whole con to "get something that is there" then they need to come out and say they are fixing it.

If Galactus isn't the main reason to go, then why is everyone and even WK doing anything about it????? Hhmmmmm.. seems to me that Galactus is a BIG part of the WK "experience" and they realie now that backlash could effect them.

I know what experience to get from con is as I attended Gencon the whole weekend. Yes it was fun, and different and I would go again but I ONLY go for the wizkids events and stuff they do. But the ay I have heard from people who went to LA, it wasn't exactly a fun sounding time.

I can play all the games and win all the LE's I want here without paying much to travel, but to go to a con, I would like a little something to be an exclusive momento.

Like I said, I made my own Galactusand have the LEs I want already, so I won't be wasting my money by attending a con this year.

[darius_dax1]

So does that last post fall under your disclaimer or was it the real thing???:surprised

[herosspirit]

Out of curiousity anyone know the total number of Galacti that will be produced to understand how rare they will actually be?

[Ghost_Rider_92]

actually, I confused myself and the last post should just be ignored :laugh:

[muffinlad]

Originally posted by GroovyBoy
Can people lay off Dorcas and Jason now? They went to bat for you guys at WizKids and came up with this. Give 'em a hand...

Here here, my Antartic Ally!

muffindorpher.

[Joe Kerr]

Hmm the Indy stuff, will it come to us via a booster? Or singles? I don't care as long as I have a shot at getting Galactus. I'm glad Wizkids is listening or at least it looks like they are. :)

[freakazoid_x]

Okay lets analyze this.

More Galacti... good. I know this has been an issue and it pleases me that more of these will be floating around.

More Dropships, again, also good, these were big last year and it pleases me they will get a new lease on life.

EU Indyclix here in the US... Excellent, I will finally be able to obtain these now!

Wizkids attending another con, very good. This pleases me though I have no intention on going to said con.

All in all I would call this a step in the right direction towards repairing some of the damage of your consumer trust. This pleases me to no end.

And I was one of the most vocal complainers. It's a long road towards being back to what you were 365 days ago, but you are started upon it. Thank you.

[CapAmerica24]

Originally posted by crownroyal578
Considering that I am an Atlanta Judge, this would be great news......

...if I hadn't already dropped $700 (non-refundable) on a trip to WWE.

Thanks for the notice, guys.

CrownRoyal, look me up when you get to WWE...I'll try and make sure you have a fun experience! :)

[Ponchot]

Thank You.
I think theyv'e finally listened to some comments.
Thanks for the chance at UK Indy. I cant wait.

I still would like to see some rough estimates on the number of Galacti' (in case Im number 601 in line for the 600 they might have).

Quick note to all those who think we complain too much. A lot of complaints need to be voiced. Thats PART of what this site is about. But on the other hand, there is A LOT of positive threads on this site that many people forget about, expecially when it come to Galactus. I assure you there wouldve been hundreds of positive comments on Galactus if we had a BETTER shot at one.

[skyounkin]

Originally posted by Ponchot
Quick note to all those who think we complain too much. A lot of complaints need to be voiced. Thats PART of what this site is about. But on the other hand, there is A LOT of positive threads on this site that many people forget about, expecially when it come to Galactus. I assure you there wouldve been hundreds of positive comments on Galactus if we had a BETTER shot at one.

Don't think people complained too much, it was the multiple threads on the SAME topic-"Realmers pee'd off @ Wizkids about Galactus" I think there were 5-6 threads on the subject and even one about someone making fun of Dorcas Bean's name. Yeah, that made Wizkids want to heard valid complaints.

Hopefully when people DON"T get Galactus (sorry, but it will happen) we will only see an official complaint thread, with respectful complaints, with suggestions to WK on how to improve fellow collectors chances and we won't have a repeat of the freakshow blitzkreig calling for wizkids heads.

But that's my 2 cents.



:speechles

[tyroclix]

I still would like to see some rough estimates on the number of Galacti' (in case Im number 601 in line for the 600 they might have).

I can't believe they will ever commit themselves to some number to send out in a press release.

I know I wouldn't. There is no real advantage for them to do it.

That being said, the fact they are having more Galactuses made for each Con AND adding another Con means the market will have more of them floating around.

That is only good news to anyone who really wants one as prices will come down a bit in the secondary market. (Although how much will depend on actually how many more there are) And this may deter some Non-HC players from trying to get their hands on him.

[the itsy bit]

Originally posted by VetLogan
Dorcas for Prez!

I hope this reaffirms everyone's in Wizkids as a company.

Now, what about all those Clix quitters?!


President.. ? I wouldn't go that far !!;)

damage control does not a great company make, though It IS a step in the right direction.

people complaining aboot Galactus is the reason WK makes more (In my honest opinion).

[New Warrior]

Hooray I r happy. Euro Indy Clix, more Galacti, and more fun! All I need now is for them to have Galacti at Anime Central in Chicago (Wizkids say online that it is a registered event. Maybe the debut of Anime Clix.)

O look at me Im dreaming again.

[Thunderbolts]

The UK figs being available still won't make HCRealms traders offer you anything reasonable for them.

[Free Gamer]

Additionally, the EU version of Indy HeroClix will make its debut in the United States at summer conventions.

My guess is that WizKids will have European Indy boosters and Starter Sets available for sale at the conventions...not individual figures (although I'm sure that there will be plenty of dealers that have them). At least this gives you something -- in addition to your three boosters of Ultimates and/or Galactus -- to purchase as you spend your $100 with WizKids to get LE Silver Surfer. :knockedou

[Dakion]

one thing I must have missed being mentioned ever is how much IS Galactus going for from Wizkids at the convention?

[TechLee]

75 bucks was the price at WWLA, I believe, Dakion.

[warden]

Originally posted by Free Gamer
My guess is that WizKids will have European Indy boosters and Starter Sets available for sale at the conventions...not individual figures Indeed - they've probably bought some cases back from foreign distributors.

Still, at least it should be cheaper to buy the boosters in the US than it is here, where they cost about $11. I still don't have a full set of UK figures myself and so could use more - I have traded too many away to US visitors. But bear in mind that you only get one per booster - the other three figures will be the usual Indy chix.

Andrew

[Castiglione]

Originally posted by the itsy bit
President.. ? I wouldn't go that far !!;)


Well, I am sure we could get her a job with the Coalition Forces....

I can see it now:

WK announces FallujahCon 2004!

Be the first in your spider hole to get the new exclusive Saddam Hussein Big Figure-scalable to 3 point levels: Off his Rocker(600 points), Frikkin' Insane(1200 points) and Completely Bat Snot Nuts!(1800 points). Free with $100 purchase, LE Osama bin Laden clix!

***

Then, once the insurgents are queued up in nice lines, well, it's pretty much a duck shoot, isn't it?

Heeheeehee

[ncernak]

GALACTUS AT DRAGON CON!!!
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH Dorcas and Jason!!!

:p :cool: :confused:

[Phantom]

Originally posted by VetLogan
Dorcas for Prez!

I hope this reaffirms everyone's in Wizkids as a company.

Now, what about all those Clix quitters?! What if we were quitting for reasons unrelated to Galactus, Indy, or the convention schedule?

I just can’t afford to spend $600 a year on plastic crack anymore, and have developed a hatred of my local venue's ever-changing house rules!

[Phantom]

Oh, and since it's been asked already... come on, Wizkids! Show some Galactus love to the Northwest already!

[de4dp00l]

Originally posted by Phantom
What if we were quitting for reasons unrelated to Galactus, Indy, or the convention schedule?

I just can’t afford to spend $600 a year on plastic crack anymore, and have developed a hatred of my local venue's ever-changing house rules!

Originally posted by Phantom
Oh, and since it's been asked already... come on, Wizkids! Show some Galactus love to the Northwest already!

:confused:

[Spyder's Web]

Nice to see some positive comments flowing people. I hope this isn't temporary.

[booper]

I agree with those who have said going to a convention is more about getting Galactus.

Unfortunately, for those who went to WizWorld LA, spending 10+ hours in a lineup on Saturday didn't really leave much time for anything else. Let me ask you this - if at 10:30am you were told you could get a Galactus at 2pm, after having waited for 5.5 hours, wouldn't you stick it out? Of course, 2pm turned into 3:30+ pm after Wizkids let all the people who "didn't want to buy Galactus" go first.

This statement is nice, and hopefully Wizkids will come through for those attending future conventions. I'm happy for those who are able to make it to another/future convention. It doesn't really help those who were involved in the LA fiasco (I don't know if there's anything they really could do to address it).

Personally, as many have stated, I'll believe it when I see it. However, I wouldn't at all be surprised if at the next con, we see a bunch of posts about the shortage of con-exclusive LEs... I guess we'll find out in a couple months.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by de4dp00l
:confused: Okay, so I'm mostly retired. I'll be turning up for marquees and maybe playing casually with some friends. I just don't plan to buy new boosters otherwise. I got two boosters of Unleashed on a lark (and ended up with Supes!) and that'll be it for me until the marquee next week.

But for that Galactus sculpt, I'd be more than happy to make an exception. That bad boy would be going on a shelf right next to my 25th-anniversary Optimus import. :) There's also just the principle of the thing -- I've long complained that Wizkids just doesn't show the cons of the Pacific Northwest the kind of love that they show every other corner of the company, despite the fact that Wizkids actually LIVES HERE.

[bobk815]

Just promises so far folks. Lets wait for a performance change before we applaud.

[Kaitouace]

How come no one's thanking the complainers? I mean, if no one complained then it's very doubtful that they would be bringing more Galacti to future cons much less bringing over the Euro Indy Clix (another decently large complaint people have had).

After all the point behind complaining is getting change. And that's what's happening. Happily smiling at everything you get only gets you more of the same.

But either way it's good news and I hope things go well from now on for everyone's sake.

[thugit]

Originally posted by Kaitouace
How come no one's thanking the complainers? I mean, if no one complained then it's very doubtful that they would be bringing more Galacti to future cons much less bringing over the Euro Indy Clix (another decently large complaint people have had).

After all the point behind complaining is getting change. And that's what's happening. Happily smiling at everything you get only gets you more of the same.

But either way it's good news and I hope things go well from now on for everyone's sake.


I'm sorry, that's just stupid. "Thank me, I complained."


I'm complaining about you right now. You're welcome.

[hornhead]

I love it how the groupies feel the need to applaud every statement Wizkids issues. We all probably know someone like this in real life; the guy who congratulates the supervisor/manager in the meeting room on his decision, doesn't even matter what the decision is, or what it concerns, it's just so automatic ... "We'll take a short break from our meeting to order lunch" ... "Excellent choice sir, that's why you're the boss" ...

Everyone who's patting WK on the back should realize that you're celebrating the fact that their convention-planning team is reactive instead of proactive. Reactive is better than nothing, mind you, but I think we can call off the ticker-tape parades in their honor.

Fact is, they're announcing these changes because of the huge backlash during (and after) WWLA, not because they're your buddy or have a big heart. They're doing it for business reasons, plain and simple. They could care less if you (personally) dropped off the face of the planet, as long as they make a good return on their investment.

[crookedtooth]

someone needs to get a new act! :noid: ;)

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Yo, hornhead, I'm just happy to get the UK figs. Not everybody sees the world in terms of "pro-authority/anti-authority."

[thugit]

Originally posted by hornhead


Fact is, they're announcing these changes because of the huge backlash during (and after) WWLA, not because they're your buddy or have a big heart. They're doing it for business reasons, plain and simple. They could care less if you (personally) dropped off the face of the planet, as long as they make a good return on their investment.


No kidding. They're a business. That's the way it works. Perhaps the people who whine about every single stupid thing WK does should remember that.

[hornhead]

Originally posted by Ignatz_Mouse
Yo, hornhead, I'm just happy to get the UK figs. Not everybody sees the world in terms of "pro-authority/anti-authority." I'm glad Wizkids had the idea to make Heroclix; their dial technology is very innovative and the game is a blast to play. That being said, I don't feel the need to kiss up to them at every opportunity. They make the product, I buy the product. They don't owe me anything, and I certainly don't owe them anything. It's not a matter of "pro-authority/anti-authority" unless you happen to work for Wizkids.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

Originally posted by hornhead
They make the product, I buy the product. They don't owe me anything, and I certainly don't owe them anything. It's not a matter of "pro-authority/anti-authority" unless you happen to work for Wizkids.

I feel the same way-- perhaps your post was not meant for me. SOunded a little like you were on the side of complaining about what Wizkids owes you.

[crookedtooth]

@hornhead

clearly someone on this thread *cough*thugit*cough* doesn't share your opinion.....or he just likes attention, either way :p

[thugit]

Originally posted by crookedtooth
@hornhead

clearly someone on this thread *cough*thugit*cough* doesn't share your opinion.....or he just likes attention, either way :p


Actually I DO share his opinion. I didn't see anyone here who was kissing anyone's butt, though.


Clearly someone on this thread *cough*you*cough* don't have anything to say, other than to try and instigate some flames.

[hornhead]

Originally posted by thugit
Actually I DO share his opinion. I didn't see anyone here who was kissing anyone's butt, though.I just found it funny that some people fealt the need to thank certain WK employees directly, like they went to bat for us consumers. To the best of my knowledge, they get paid for doing their job. A job whose performance, I assume, includes the planning and execution of conventions. So, of course they're going to improve things, not because they empathize with those at WWLA, but because more mishaps would look badly for them.

There was some borderline puckering going on earlier ... if the lips weren't actually touching, they got pretty darn close.

[thugit]

Originally posted by hornhead
I just found it funny that some people fealt the need to thank certain WK employees directly, like they went to bat for us consumers. To the best of my knowledge, they get paid for doing their job. A job whose performance, I assume, includes the planning and execution of conventions. So, of course they're going to improve things, not because they empathize with those at WWLA, but because more mishaps would look badly for them.

There was some borderline puckering going on earlier ... if the lips weren't actually touching, they got pretty darn close.


Again, I agree with you completely about the why's and wherefore's, but I didn't see any butt kissing. If you did, that's fine, as that's your perception, not mine.

We all know why WK is bringing the UK stuff here. It's not because they love us, or because people complained. They did it to move old product. They increased production on Galactus to make more money. Not because of people complaining.

crookedtooth is the one attempting to instigate flames..... Hopefully, you realize that I was agreeing with you from the start.

[hornhead]

Originally posted by thugit
crookedtooth is the one attempting to instigate flames..... Hopefully, you realize that I was agreeing with you from the start. No problem. I took your first post as agreeing with me. He probably just misunderstood my original post like Ignatz_Mouse.

Originally posted by Ignatz_Mouse
I feel the same way-- perhaps your post was not meant for me. SOunded a little like you were on the side of complaining about what Wizkids owes you.I hear ya - I probably should have eloborated more. I am definitely not in the Wizkids Owes Me camp.

[darius_dax1]

Can't some of us just be happy with the decisions that were made, and congratulate those involved in the process, no matter the reasoning behind said decisions, without being accused of being apologists, yes-men, or butt-smoochers?

It seems that the easy reaction by the dissenters is to assign negative labels to the people with whom they disagree. Some people are just happy about these decisions and don't care about the politics of WizKids, HeroClix, or HCRealms.

[Kaitouace]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
Can't some of us just be happy with the decisions that were made, and congratulate those involved in the process, no matter the reasoning behind said decisions, without being accused of being apologists, yes-men, or butt-smoochers?


It'd be a bit easier if a lot of the initial posts weren't taking pot-shots at the "complainers".

And really. You can't seriously think that the Galactus decision was made for any reason OTHER than the complaining that happened. Considering the statement says it was due to the "large demand". Although the Euro Indy Clix issue is probably a combination of both complaining and trying to ditch old stock.

[Phantom]

Originally posted by hornhead
I just found it funny that some people fealt the need to thank certain WK employees directly, like they went to bat for us consumers. To the best of my knowledge, they get paid for doing their job. A job whose performance, I assume, includes the planning and execution of conventions. So, of course they're going to improve things, not because they empathize with those at WWLA, but because more mishaps would look badly for them.

There was some borderline puckering going on earlier ... if the lips weren't actually touching, they got pretty darn close. I think the thanks are mostly appreciation for the WK liason folks who still ended up having to take the brunt of the flames (however deserved or undeserved they may have been) and do what they could to calm the customers down and hopefully make them happy.

[darius_dax1]

Originally posted by Kaitouace
It'd be a bit easier if a lot of the initial posts weren't taking pot-shots at the "complainers".

And really. You can't seriously think that the Galactus decision was made for any reason OTHER than the complaining that happened. Considering the statement says it was due to the "large demand". Although the Euro Indy Clix issue is probably a combination of both complaining and trying to ditch old stock. I really do believe that the complaining online had very little to do with their decision. I do believe that the WWLA experience and the demand for these items was a learning experience for WK and they have adjusted accordingly.

[hornhead]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
Can't some of us just be happy with the decisions that were made, and congratulate those involved in the process, no matter the reasoning behind said decisions, without being accused of being apologists, yes-men, or butt-smoochers?Butt-smoochers are a cross section of society, so it's only natural that they'd have some representation here on the boards.;)

Originally posted by darius_dax1
It seems that the easy reaction by the dissenters is to assign negative labels to the people with whom they disagree. Some people are just happy about these decisions and don't care about the politics of WizKids, HeroClix, or HCRealms. I really wouldn't classify myself as a dissenter. I've already said that I love the game and WK doesn't owe me anything. What am I supposedly dissenting about?

[Kaitouace]

Either way I just hope that there's no more problems so there'll be no reason for anyone to complain in the first place.

[thugit]

Originally posted by Kaitouace
Either way I just hope that there's no more problems so there'll be no reason for anyone to complain in the first place.


I knew if I read enough of your posts I was bound to agree with one of them!

[Kaitouace]

Originally posted by thugit
I knew if I read enough of your posts I was bound to agree with one of them!

I'm pretty sure you agreed with me at least ONCE before. Just can't.......remember.........when that was.................

[Marshal Law]

Originally posted by batfink
Will the Indy US exclusives be avail. for the UK Cons?

Don't know, but with the average eBay prices of US IndyClix cases, even if you add in shipping across the pond its still cheaper than EU distributor prices (having bought an EU IndyClix case at retailer cost and having it shipped to the US).

But all 3 blokes I've talked to from the UK have stated they've got zero interest in the US exclusives. Trades across the pond have general been of EU exclusives for LE / Unique swag, not US exclusives. If you're after US exclusives, you're the exception to the rule.

[kwsazul]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
Can't some of us just be happy with the decisions that were made, and congratulate those involved in the process, no matter the reasoning behind said decisions, without being accused of being apologists, yes-men, or butt-smoochers?


Can't some of us disagree with the things WK does and voice those disagreements/concerns without being labeled cry babies, complainers, whiners. The door swings BOTH ways on this one dax. Many people on these boards seem to group people into the categories of WK clones or crybabies. I don't but plenty here do.(ie the first couple pages of this thread)

[Marshal Law]

Originally posted by Draddog
Additionally, the EU version of Indy HeroClix will make its debut in the United States at summer conventions.

I'm happy, bummed, and surprised.

Happy in that EU will finally make the rounds, although rather limitedly, in the US. There is a *lot* of interest in the 2000 AD figures over here, I've found a sure fire way to get HeroClixers' attention around here in California is to pass around my EU exclusives trade box. My 40+ uniques trade box barely gets a glance in comparison.

Bummed in that they didn't make it to WWLA, the one WizKids attended convention on my calendar this year.

Surprised in that, at WWLA, I chatted with Jon about both the Galactus scarcity issue and the IndyClix EU issue. The former was readily acknowledged by all. The latter I mentioned was a golden opportunity for sales in the US, as demand here was solid and a limited convention only release method would surely fly with any license agreements. Jon stated their EU distributor agreements were strict and probably pretty solidly against such. I did hit a nerve, evidently, when a pained look hit his face when I mentioned that they'd make a lot more money selling them in the US than letting the large quantities I'd heard about sit unsold in their warehouses. Evidently they came around to the same idea.

[the itsy bit]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
I really do believe that the complaining online had very little to do with their decision. I do believe that the WWLA experience and the demand for these items was a learning experience for WK and they have adjusted accordingly.

In my opinion the complaining had everything to do with it.

WK has had lots of learning experience: MK,MW (MK 2 years before Heroclix came out ! and they have had a host of Titans/Dragons/Chariots/Tanks,Dropship).

second IF WK was affraid they wouldn't sell Galactus they could have had a poll.
which in a way they did: the list of questions on the wizkidsgames site (and they could have checked Ebay to see how many Galacti where being pre-sold).

[darius_dax1]

Originally posted by kwsazul
Can't some of us disagree with the things WK does and voice those disagreements/concerns without being labeled cry babies, complainers, whiners. The door swings BOTH ways on this one dax. Many people on these boards seem to group people into the categories of WK clones or crybabies. I don't but plenty here do.(ie the first couple pages of this thread) Disagreements are certainly welcome. The tone of the posts can become apparent with the word choices. Many of the posts were not just complaining but backed up with a whining attitude. The "I quit". WK sucks", "You screwed up", etc.. language is what turns a complaint into a whine.

[kwsazul]

Originally posted by darius_dax1
Disagreements are certainly welcome. The tone of the posts can become apparent with the word choices. Many of the posts were not just complaining but backed up with a whining attitude. The "I quit". WK sucks", "You screwed up", etc.. language is what turns a complaint into a whine.

True and true, but those others who are also against/disagree with XYZ and have something intelligent to say are 'roped' into this same group of "whiners".
I also agree that 'WK sucks' threads accomplish nothing and are better ignored.