Who would buy a monthly Pre-Crisis continuity comic book?

[Kalel21]

Of course, there's no chance of this actually happening--

BUT--if DC published a monthly 100-page book with NEWstories set in the Pre-Crisis continuity, who would buy it?

I'm thinking a 100-page book would allow for several long stories in each issue. The book would feature stories set back in the Good Ol' Days. (Cosmically powered Superman & Supergirl, Earth One and Earth Two, Superpets, original Legion of Superheroes continuity, Superboy stories, Hal & Barry, etc.) Different characters could be featured in each issue. The possibility of reprinting some of the best original Pre-Crisis stories also exists.

Ignoring concerns about how much this might cost as a large monthly, who would buy it?

[Ro-gan]

I'd buy it. I miss those days. :disappoin

[CarlosMucha]

can be cool.

[SumYungGai]

I think it would be fantastic. I miss Earth 2 continuity. I hate that the Huntress is not Batman's daughter. I miss the JLA/JSA cross universe adventures. People have forgottent that Batman and Superman used to be at the heart of the JSA.

I was rooting for Paralax at the end of Zero Hour. I want my Earth-2 back, dammit!

[GoldenAge]

Hell yes.

However, if I want a pre-Crisis feel with little to no continuity between stories and characters I can just go out and buy Marvel. :laugh:

[boneyard]

I'd buy it in a heart-beat - In fact, it kind of exists. If you pick up John Byrne's Generations Series it's a little as if Pre-Crisis continuity still existed...

[The Sandman]

I'd buy it.

[BigSoph]

I'd buy it

There is a charm to older style stories

I wish DC would publish B&W Essentials like Marvel

Their hardcover collections are too #### expensive! and I want to read the stuff from the 40's (JSA ruled, even then)

[grendelboy]

I'm a huge fan, I'd buy it. Just keep John Byrne away from it.

[Kalel21]

ISSUE #1: Suggested table of contents.

1. "World's Finest" story with Superman & Batman
2. Part 1 of a JLA/JSA team-up
3. Green Lantern/Flash team-up
4. Wonder Woman solo story

ISSUE #2: Suggested table of contents.

1. Superman solo story
2. Part 2 of JLA/JSA team-up
3. Batman/Huntress team-up
4. Elongated Man solo story

ISSUE #3: Suggested table of contents

1. Legion of Superheroes story, Part 1
2. Batman solo story
3. Teen Titans story
4. Atom solo story

Issue #4: Suggested table of contents

1. Hawkman/Hawkgirl story
2. Supergirl solo story
3. LSH story, Part 2
4. Green Lantern Corps story.

[Transfotaku]

I'd buy it also. Those were the good days of DC comics. When Brainiac wasn't some moron but a true threat. When Batman grew as a character (news Bats is the dark mopey bastard too long), when the Green Lanterns weren't limited to a guy that never made the right decision. Ever.

Anyone else notice that DC is sort of trying to get back to pre-Crisis in their cartoons in term of feeling? Brainiac is at his rightful place. There's the GL Corps. Etc.

[Kalel21]

ISSUE #5:

Special full-length story involving the JLA, JSA, Captain Marvel (Representing Earth One, Earth Two, and Earth S respectively) fighting the villians of Earth Three (Ultraman, etc.) on Earth Prime (that's us.) With the ghost of Julius Schwartz helping the heroes win. (No disrepect intended. I think it would be a nice tribute to his creative legacy.) And with Denny O'Neil appearing periodically in the story to complain that Superman is too powerful and thus impossible to write for.

[Ro-gan]

Carp In A Hat!

Let's get more people posting on this Thread and then forward the entire thing to DC Comics.

[skyounkin]

Originally posted by GoldenAge
Hell yes.

However, if I want a pre-Crisis feel with little to no continuity between stories and characters I can just go out and buy Marvel. :laugh:


HAHAHAHAHAHA.....that was funny!!

I think DC is kind of getting back to Pre-crisis with Superman who hopefully after the current storylinewe in Superman Batman we will see the one true supergirl, Kara. BUT the Superman birthright storyline is okay, if they can establish that it's just an Ultimate version of Superman, and does not conflict with current continuity.

Sure sign me up for a good old pre-crisis storyline.

Alex Ross did a good job of a silver age pre crisis in his JLA: Liberty Justice book.;)

[Kalel21]

ISSUE #6: Suggested Table of Contents

1: WWII-era JSA story, part I
2: Jimmy Olson solo story
3: Flash solo story
4: Zatanna/Dr. Fate team-up story

ISSUE #7: Suggested Table of Contents

1. Superman solo story
2. JSA story, part II
3. Green Lantern solo story
4. Batman & Robin story

[Ignatz_Mouse]

I'd buy it. In fact, part of the appeal of DC comics to me in the old days was the separte coninuity of Earth Two, where Batman could retire, Superman get maried, characteres got old. I could see a "precrisis" book doing the same thing with the Earth One characters.

[mattsolo]

Who is Pre- Crisis? Don't know much about DC.. But from the looks of the other posts maybe I am better off being ignorant.

[Alpha Dog]

"People have forgotten that Batman and Superman used to be at the heart of the JSA."

Um, well, NO.

They may have been shoehorned in at some point during the later Silver Age, but they were never in it in the Golden Age.

What people have forgotten is the concept on the JSA, which was the opposite of the JLA.

The JSA was a "starter book" to generate interest in new characters not strong enough to have their own titles. Once a member became sufficiently popular to get his own series, he LEFT the JSA (as the Flash did).

The only reason Wonder Woman was made an honorary member of the JSA was to bring fans to the book. That's why she was the secretary and had no "active" role in their adventures (not the fact that she was a woman, which PC-minded moderns wrongly assume).

[Kalel21]

Originally posted by Ignatz_Mouse
I'd buy it. In fact, part of the appeal of DC comics to me in the old days was the separte coninuity of Earth Two, where Batman could retire, Superman get maried, characteres got old. I could see a "precrisis" book doing the same thing with the Earth One characters.

With respect to your opinion, I'd prefer the Earth One characters to remain "ageless." Earth Two would be around again and would remain the stage for showing the characters getting older.

The one major change I'd make from the old continuity would be to introduce a noticable "time gap" between Earths One and Two. Earth One would be set in 2004, but Earth Two would still be in the late 1970s. That would allow the JSA characters to have gotten older and had all their kids (Infinity Inc.), but would still allow them to believably be WWII vets and still be active as heroes.

[jon-el]

I'd buy it.

Heck, I'm up to 20 DC Archive collections.
Only 900 more to go...

[Alpha Dog]

May I suggest that the term "pre-Crisis" is confusing the issue? There were three pre-Crisis eras: the Golden Age, the Silver Age, and the Bronze Age.

What we all (mostly) seem to be remembering fondly is not the whole of "pre-Crisis" DCU, but the Silver Age DCU.

Which, as someone has noted, is pretty much back! Read today's comics...
Supergirl. Krypto. Multi-colored kryptonite littering the planet. Mad scientist Lex Luthor. Aquaman in orange. Dial H for Hero. The Legion of Superheroes versus Universo. Flash's Rogue's Gallery. The Teen Titans, with Robin, Wonder Girl, and Kid Flash. Pete Ross and Lana Lang. Annual JSA/JLA crossovers. Etc. etc.

Now if only they'd give us back our letter columns!

[Kalel21]

Originally posted by Alpha Dog
May I suggest that the term "pre-Crisis" is confusing the issue? There were three pre-Crisis eras: the Golden Age, the Silver Age, and the Bronze Age.

What we all (mostly) seem to be remembering fondly is not the whole of "pre-Crisis" DCU, but the Silver Age DCU.



I think we'd all have slightly different opinions on the "best" point in time a Pre-Crisis series should pick up at. I'd pick a point after Morgan Edge bought the Daily Planet, because I think the characters and situations introduced by that added a lot to the Superman Mythos. Other aspects of the DC Universe (the JLA Satalite, Catwoman reforming, Richard Grayson in college but still using the Robin identity for crime-fighting) would also still provide grist for a lot of good stories.

Someone else, though, might want to pick up when Clark still worked just for the Daily Planet. Or they might want Richard Grayson as Nightwing. Most of us reading these posts are huge fans of this era and have nothing but respect for the characters, but we'll all have sincerely differing opinions about when DC hit the Silver Age creative peak.

So we'd all buy the Pre-Crisis book, but some of us would grumble a little (hopefully with good humor) about some aspect of it.

P.S. I like that HCrealms has filters, but I really wish I could type Robin's proper first name. Grumble, grumble.

[Kalel21]

Issue #8: Suggested table of contents

1. JLA story, part I
2. "DC Comics Presents"--Superman & {hero chosen by reader poll) team-up
3. Adam Strange solo story
4. Red Tornado solo story

Issue #9: Suggested table of contents

1. Superboy solo story
2. JLA story, part II
3. "Brave & the Bold"--Batman & {hero chosen by reader poll} team up.
4. Flash (Barry Allen)/Flash (Jay Garrick)/Kid Flash team-up.

[aya99]

ive been collecting comics for quite sometime now and havent read them since i dont want valuable issues to lose their value in terms of it being mint. do thru this collectors who dont open and read their collections like me could now have the chance to read these fantastic comics so to make things short, i would definitely purchase one of these:)

[Kalel21]

Issue #10:

1. Batgirl solo story
2. Extra long, complete Legion of Superheroes story
3. Green Lantern/Green Arrow/Black Canary story


For Heaven's sake, someone else come up with the contents for issue #11. I can't do it all!!!!!;)

[aya99]

what about...

Issue #11:
1) Catwoman Story
2) Lobo Story
3) Dr. Fate Story
4) Wonder woman vs. Supergirl

[Kalel21]

Good choices aya99

Issue #12:

1. 100 page Atom time-travel story. (Using that "time-grapper" thing that used to be a regular part of his mythos--the story would have him popping around time on a specific mission, meeting different people from the history of the DC universe.)


Issue #13: ALL VILLIANS ISSUE

1. Batman enemies story
2. Flash Rogue's gallery story
3. Superman archenemies story
4. Injustice League story

Issue #14.

1. Teen Titans/LSH team-up, part 1
2. Superman solo story
3. Robin solo story
4. Elongated Man/Elastic Lad/Plastic Man team-up

Issue #15:

1. Batman solo story
2. Metamorpho solo story
3. Teen Titans/LSH team-up, part 2
4. Sgt. Rock & Easy Company story

[aya99]

what about...

Issue #16:

1) Nightwing story
2) Batman vs Nightwing
3) Nightwing vs Robin

[AlgertMan]

i would buy it in a heart beat

[Kalel21]

Issue #17:

1. Infinity Inc. (children of the JSA) story, part I
2. Wonder Woman solo story
3. Aquaman solo story
4. Krypto the super dog solo story.

Issue #18:
1. Superman solo story
2. Infinity Inc. story, part II
3. Martian Manhunter story
4. Wonder Girl/Batgirl team-up story.

[Kalel21]

A short survey based on some of the discussion we've had on this thread so far:

If this comic book existed, what Pre-Crisis conditions would you most like to see?

1. Clark Kent works for:
a. The Daily Planet (reporter)
b. Galaxy Broadcasting (anchorman)

2. Richard Grayson is:
a. Robin
b. Nightwing

3. The Earth One characters have:
a. Aged normally since 1986
b. Remain "ageless"

4. Lex Luthor uses:
a. His purple battlesuit
b. His later heavy armor

5. The Legion of Super Pets appear:
a. On a regular basis
b. Infrequently

6. Jimmy Olsen is:
a. A copy boy
b. An experienced reporter ("Mr. Action")

7. The city of Kandor
a. Has been enlarged
b. Is still shrunken, in its bottle in the Fortress of Solitude.

8. Catwomen is:
a. Reformed and aware of Batman's secret identity
b. Still a criminal

Please submit your opinions and offer up any other questions I didn't think of.

[DreadDormammu]

Originally posted by Kalel21
Ignoring concerns about how much this might cost as a large monthly, who would buy it? Honestly I would be skeptical. Part of those days being gone is that writing is much different now. I'm not sure they could easily recapture what was good in that format. 100 pages per month would probably mean 80 bad pages per month.

[Kalel21]

Originally posted by DreadDormammu
Honestly I would be skeptical. Part of those days being gone is that writing is much different now. I'm not sure they could easily recapture what was good in that format. 100 pages per month would probably mean 80 bad pages per month.

With respect for your opinion, I disagree. I grant that it would be a bad idea to just try to blindly copy the styles of the older writers. But part of the reason I disliked the Crisis was that it dropped so many aspects of a complex but coherent mythos (well, coherent in terms of comic book logic) that had been steadily built up over nearly five decades and still had potential for many, many good stories.

Besides, I think there's still room for the primary-color optimism that existed back then. Not all stories have to be dark and ironic. People will still respond to straight-forward morality and heroics provided the stories themselves are still well-written.

[Transfotaku]

Originally posted by Alpha Dog
"People have forgotten that Batman and Superman used to be at the heart of the JSA."

Um, well, NO.

They may have been shoehorned in at some point during the later Silver Age, but they were never in it in the Golden Age.

What people have forgotten is the concept on the JSA, which was the opposite of the JLA.

The JSA was a "starter book" to generate interest in new characters not strong enough to have their own titles. Once a member became sufficiently popular to get his own series, he LEFT the JSA (as the Flash did).

The only reason Wonder Woman was made an honorary member of the JSA was to bring fans to the book. That's why she was the secretary and had no "active" role in their adventures (not the fact that she was a woman, which PC-minded moderns wrongly assume).

THANK YOU!
I hate having to tell people again and again and again that the original JSA had NO Batman or Superman. And in fact, the ONLY times that Bats or Supes were part of the JSA was during a few rare All-Star Squadron appearances (all superheroes were by Presidential decree members so they were by default) and Elseworlds stuff.
"But Last Days of the JSA had..." no. It was pre-Crisis and its storyline has been retconned so it effectively never existed.

The original JSA was the very first superhero team, yes. But like Alpha said it was populated by "losers" (unlike the 80s JLA run who was populated by...real losers;). When someone got their own comic book they left active status on JSA. When someone's comic book got cancelled, they rejoined the JSA.

Batman and Superman were never put in a situation to warrant JSA membership.

[mattyb]

i know this was not one of the questions but the thing i miss the most is multiple earths. I lve earth two, and earth III with the Crime Syndicate. And Earth M withthe Shazam Family "sniff"

[Ro-gan]

Originally posted by mattyb
i know this was not one of the questions but the thing i miss the most is multiple earths. I lve earth two, and earth III with the Crime Syndicate. And Earth M withthe Shazam Family "sniff"

The Earths I know:

Earth Prime--

This was the Earth where we live and read about the DC heroes/villains of Earth 1.

Earth 1--

The Earth where the "regular" DC heroes/villains exist.

Earth 2--

The Earth of the JSA and the aged heroes/villains

Earth S--

The Earth of Captain Marvel and the rest of his family/villains.

Earth 3--

The Earth of the Crime Syndicate.

And I forget which Earth had the Pulp heroes/villains like Blue Beetle, The Question and Captain Atom.

[Kalel21]

Originally posted by ro_gan

Earth S--

The Earth of Captain Marvel and the rest of his family/villains.


I remember a story where Superman and Lois got zapped into Earth S and met Captain Marvel. For most of the story, Superman was frantically making sure Lois didn't see and Earth S "Superman" comic, since (like on Earth Prime) Superman is a fictional character there and Lois would have learned his secret identity from the comics.

[Ro-gan]

Earth 4 contained the Pulp heroes/villains.

[skyounkin]

Originally posted by Kalel21
A short survey based on some of the discussion we've had on this thread so far:

If this comic book existed, what Pre-Crisis conditions would you most like to see?

1. Clark Kent works for:
a. The Daily Planet (reporter)
b. Galaxy Broadcasting (anchorman)

2. Richard Grayson is:
a. Robin
b. Nightwing

3. The Earth One characters have:
a. Aged normally since 1986
b. Remain "ageless"

4. Lex Luthor uses:
a. His purple battlesuit
b. His later heavy armor

5. The Legion of Super Pets appear:
a. On a regular basis
b. Infrequently

6. Jimmy Olsen is:
a. A copy boy
b. An experienced reporter ("Mr. Action")

7. The city of Kandor
a. Has been enlarged
b. Is still shrunken, in its bottle in the Fortress of Solitude.

8. Catwomen is:
a. Reformed and aware of Batman's secret identity
b. Still a criminal

Please submit your opinions and offer up any other questions I didn't think of.

1 -Clark should work for Galaxy, to differ from the "reg" continuity book.

2- Nightwing. Inarguabley the best coming of age sidekick to hero character that exists. In fact I can't think of ANYONE who doesn't like Rich as Nightwing. BUT God, please design a "new" costume instead of the open collar disco suit.

3- Ageless. Earth 1 can be reg continuity, AlterEarth (made it up work with me) could be set in the 70's-Satalite era BUT Zatanna has to be in the fishnets.......they are like my kryptonite.........

4-Latter heavy armour, just for the tough hands on approach it could give his rivalry with Superman

5-Infrequently.....In fact forget the pets and just keep it to Krypto, but current dog krypto not smart krypto were Superman had a telepathic link with

6-Mr. Action to give Clark working for Galaxy some competition

7-Still tiny....but a little more accessible.

8-Catwoman, still a crimnal just to give Batman the sexual tension

And I propose a number 9 were Lois is dating Clark, and does know of his secret............BUT doesn't like the assumed Bachelorhood that the world sees in Superman

Hope this helps.

My responses are all over the board and don't stick to one continuity but hey ;)

[Kalel21]

Issue #19: (WORLD WAR II TRIBUTE ISSUE)

1. Earth-2 Sgt Rock/Batman Team-up (set in WWII)
2. All-Star Squadron story
3. Haunted Tank story
4. Losers story.

Issue #20:

Full-length World's Finest Batman/Superman story, with several JLA and JSA members and the Legion of Super Pets guest starring.