Mighty Marvel Myth Battles: Final Match

[proditor]

Final Match: Mythology battles for the Marvel Universe!

To cut down on spammage, this will be the only post for the finals. All of the bios will be linked from the following page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/proditor/Round2.htm and I'm requesting a new voting criteria (See Below). Please see this thread for the rules and regulations stuff: http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85613 It's down to just the Norse and the Helipolians as the final bell sounds.

Here were the round one battles:
Shaman vs. Ghost Rider in the Dark Dimension (Winner: Ghost Rider)
Juggernaut vs. Ares in Valhalla (Winner: Juggernaut)
Clea vs. Thor in Valhalla (Winner: Thor)
Hercules vs. Loki in the Dark Dimension (Winner: Loki)
Leir vs. D'sparye in the Elysian Fields (Winner: Leir)
Horus vs. Doctor Strange in the Frozen North (Winner: Horus)
Dagda vs. Anubis in the Equatorial Jungle (Winner: Anubis)
Sphinx vs. Cernunnos in the British Isles (Winner: Cernunnos)
Sif vs. Hades(Pluto) in Valhalla (Winner: Hades/Pluto)
Thialfi vs. Wendigo in the Dark Dimension (Winner: Thialfi)
Sobek vs. Balder in Valhalla (Winner: Balder)
Tundra vs. Seth in the British Isles (Winner: Seth)
Snowbird vs. Morrigan/Nemain in the Elysian Fields (Winner: Morrigan/Nemain)
Athena vs. Caber in the Equatorial Jungle (Winner: Athena)
Hecate vs. Sasquatch in the Frozen North (Winner: Hecate)

Round two:
Ghost Rider vs. Athena in the Equatorial Jungle (Winner: Athena)
Juggernaut vs. Balder in the British Isles (Winner: Juggernaut)
Thor vs. Hades/Pluto in Valhalla (Winner: Thor)
Loki vs. Seth in the Frozen North (Winner: Seth)
Leir vs. Hecate in the Elysian Fields (Winner: Leir)
Anubis vs. Cernunnos in the Frozen North (Winner: Anubis)
Thialfi vs. Morrigan in the Dark Dimension (Winner: Thialfi)

Round Three match ups:
Seth vs. Juggernaut in Valhalla (Winner: Seth)
Athena vs. Thor in the British Isles (Winner: Thor)
Anubis vs. Leir in the Frozen North (Winner: Leir)
Thialfi gets to sit this one out till round 4.

Round Four Matchups:
Thor vs. Leir in the Frozen North (Winner: Thor)
Thialfi vs. Seth in the British Isles (Winner: Seth)

FINAL MATCH:

Thor vs. Seth in the Elysian Fields


Feel free to explain why to sway others. :) This thread will be open for the next 3 days, voting will end at 9:00 pm EST on Monday the 19th.

[Maniac_nmt]

VERILY, I SAY THEE NAY!

Thor crushes yon foes skull with his beloved Mjolnir after a most satisfying battle pon yon plain.

Thor doth stand triumpant, let ring the horns of Asgard, bring forth the restoritive mead, and know that Thor has yet again saved Midgard!

[GoldenAge]

Proditor... Well done.

Since the elimination of the Eternals I've been lurking. (#### you ;) )

You've done a great job as moderator! That said...

SETH!

[proditor]

*Chuckle* Thanks GA. I'm pondering a more ambitious throw down for the "aliens" as it were, but I'm kinda stuck after Shi'ar, Kree, Skrull, Eternals and Inhumans...and honestly, the latter two may annihilate the first three without breaking a sweat. ;) Still pondering it though.

I'm going to ponder my own vote for a bit and consult some source material first. (Now is that an excuse to go read back issues or what?):laugh:

[Maniac_nmt]

ah, young proditor, I see they helm rests heavy on thy brow. Know that mighty Thor shalt not yield readily to any foe. Verily he doth posses more then a strong right arm, and hammer. Thor doth also posses courage, skill, and a warrior's heart. This base villian is no match for the god of thunder and lightning! Though the battle may rage for some time, the outcome ist most assuradly never in doubt.

[GoldenAge]

Perhaps I could suggest a cross-time caper?

It might be fun to take several teams from the many eras of comics and thrust them into a common arena where we can finally determine the greatest heroes in all history?


Of course I'm totally biased and always looking for a forum to introduce the Golden Age character to the comic fans of today. Remember comic fans... you don't know where you are if you don't know where you've been!

Sorry... back to the battle...

Dark scarabs haunt the horizon while thunder and lightning crashes!!!!!!!!!!

[proditor]

Oooo....that's a cool idea! Assuming I'm following you right, we'd have the All-Star Squadron vs. the LSH or the X-men vs. the Invaders? That's a pretty spiff idea. I'd probably need a LOT of help with some bios though. ;)

Other thoughts: Did the simple webpage format for Bios and terrain make things easier or more difficult?

Anyhoo, back to readin...though Maniac_nmt's last pose has me looking at my custom Thor clix and going "Yeah, he could take it all....He's freakin' Thor!" Still pondering the vote though.

[GoldenAge]

Originally posted by proditor
Oooo....that's a cool idea! Assuming I'm following you right, we'd have the All-Star Squadron vs. the LSH or the X-men vs. the Invaders? That's a pretty spiff idea. I'd probably need a LOT of help with some bios though. ;)

One last interruption.. Yes, you're following me... However, the All Star Squadron was just about EVERY DC hero available for a time there. Their roster is HUGE. Though they should participate, they should be limited. ;)

There are so many others too... In the Golden Age alone: Seven Soldiers of Victory/Law's Legionaires, JSA, Freedom Fighters, Young All Stars, The Young Allies, The Crime Crusuaders Club, The Marvel Family (wow). And so many more from so many different eras... The Metal Men, etc.

[chase_jyd]

An impressive battle, ultimately won by Thor.

[JayThor]

Both dieties measure the other. Thor, knowing the power and utter evil of his opponent, reaches into his "pocket" and pulls out the Belt of Strength and Guantlets. The battle commences with a powerful energy blast from Seth, but Thor absorbs it with Mjolnir! He winds up, and hurls his Hammer, blasting Seth. Never before has he faced such power, even from Thor. He fires agian, but again , Thor blocks it, by spinning his hammer like a shield. They trade blows for a time, then Thor begins whirling faster and faster, the energy nearly blinding Seth, until he releases his "Unfettered Might"! Seth is devastated, and tries to muster all his energy for one last death-touch. Thor recognizes this and decides to use the one power he dreads, having only used it against Loki. He absorbs the godly essence from Seth, into Mjolnir, causing the defeated god of evil to flee to his home plane. THOR WINS!

[Maniac_nmt]

AYE! FOR ODIN! FOR ASGARD! LET THERE BE AN END FORTHWITH!

[SteveRogers]

I say Thor.l

[proditor]

Current Voting:

Thor: 4
Seth: 1

I'm going to ponder GA's idea and probably try to ramp something up as this one ends (Monday). If anyone has some inital ideas on teams for this magilly....let's set the following criteria as per DTM's team thread (With some modifications). Overall power level should be no greater than the following: One Superheavyweight (Superman, Sentinel, Silver Surfer, etc.) 2 Heavy weights (Warbird, Ultra-Boy, Flash) 3 Middle weights (Batman, Captain America, Spiderman) and 3 lightweights (Gambit, Robin, Jubilee) per team. They MUST be from an accepted team and have actually been in this configuration at some time in their comics run. IE; You could have a LSH team of Valor/Mon-el(SHW), Ultra-Boy(HW), Timber Wolf(MW), Karate Kid(MW), Saturn Girl(MW), Cosmic Boy(MW), XS (LW) because while the MW division is higher than the max, the HW is lower. Basically those numbers would be the absolute max, anything that comes in under that is okay. Send me a team recommendation for 9 lightweights if'n ya like. :)

[DTM]

I say Seth. I believe his power was simply GREATER than that of Thors, and hes no dummy either. Seth for the win, since while Thor is GREAT, there are other Gods out there more powerful. Cant believe he beat Hades in Round 2 either. :)

[Maniac_nmt]

why not, mythically Thor would kick the hell out of all other pantheon gods. He was a rival of even Odin in terms of worshippers. In fact it's believed he was even more widely worshipped.

[DTM]

Well maybe, but in the COMICS, while Thor is AMAZINGLY POWERFUL, there are other stronger gods. Hades is the brother of Zeus, and probably the second strongest Greek God. He should have beaten Thor. Seth is also another High level God, who in Marvel I believe has more power and better abilities than him as well.

[proditor]

I think the terrain was a big factor on the Hades win. The +20% boost for home field advantage was a decider for a lot of folk. Thor does not have that advantage here though. I'm still pondering my vote BTW, every time I think I've decided one way, I either read something here or in the comics that causes me to reconsider.

[EVIL CAP]

Seth is tough BUT ive seen Spidergirl able to give him fits and stall himlong enough for a group of Future Avengers to take him out.Somehow i just dont see that happening to the Mighty Thor

[Rokk_Krinn]

Seth's a lot smarter than Thor, much like Loki who does give Thor troubles, and yet has the sort of raw power Loki doesn't get to utilize in these sort of throwdowns.

Vote: Seth

[lukion]

as thor reaches into his "pocket dimension" for his belt of strength he grasps and pulls out a venomous adder!!!. biting thor, seth laughs having so easily taken thors advantage away. thor fires with the hammer and blasts seth threw a wall and slams mjolnir down to the ground to bring the building down on seth. clearing the rubble to finsh his opponent he sees only a black portal. seth reaches up from it, having avoided the building coming down around him by slipping into thor's "pocket" and wearing the realbelt and gauntlets, clasps thor around the neck. thor goes limp and seth laughs. odin appears to claim his fallen son and swears vengence on the egyptian elder. winner SETH!!!!!!!

[Maniac_nmt]

true enough, but Seth is a magic user, and woe betide magic users that run afoul of Thor.

Yon spell flinging is most base, and unseemly. For true warriors doth lay forth in battle and know that the more just cause shall surely prevail.

Tis Thor's very calling to win yon match. As the right good defender of Midgard, such a thing as a loss is most unponderable.

(besides, you know you're itching to break out that horrible, and badly done old/middle english).

This battle is more then a versus battle, it is a battle to control mankinds future, do you honestly believe Thor would EVER let himself loose such a fight. He could be down and out, at death's door, only to climb back up, and let fly the fury of Mjolnir and split open the head of his foe.

This is good vs evil for the fate of the world, no way, no how will Thor ever let Seth win.

[Maniac_nmt]

I mean, it's like thinking Captain America would let the Red Skull conquer the world, just not happening, no matter what the odds are, or how desperate the situation.

[lukion]

man, what silver cloud are you walking on, or smoking from? the bad guy has to win some of the time. if the victor is always a forgone conclusion then the story gets old real quick. seth is not that bad a guy. i mean death god, serpents stuff like that. hey someone has to do the dirty work. my vote is still Seth

[Maniac_nmt]

in the end the good guy does always win, it's credo man.

Look at the Spartans, they all died, but ultimately won by completely breaking the back of the Persian army (300 vs 40,000, and they held out untill treason cost them their lives). Or the 101 Airborne in Bastonge.

Thor will know what's on the line, and go that extra mile. In a normal battle situation, then it's concievable for Seth to get a temporary win. In fate of the world, do or die, sudden death, 4th and goal, Thor just isn't letting us down.

[JayThor]

Couldn't have said it better myself, maniac!

[Rokk_Krinn]

I still worry a bit about the current set-up for Cross-Time Caper because of some of the disparity in teams. Even with the "numbers" limit, I'm not entirely about certain squaring off the likes of the Invaders (who really don't have a true SHW unless you stretch things and say Namor or _maybe_ the original Vision) to the Legion or the JSA (may I suggest Spectre be discluded? :) ). What about a "normals" Cross-Time match (let's be honest, as fun as the DTM Lightweight was, it still featured a lot of powered characters). By Cross-Time I mean the likes of: Jonah Hex, Sgt. Rock, Nick Fury (Howling Commando), Rawhide Kid, etc...folks that came from "historical era" focus comics.

That being said, I'm sure I'll still be PM'ing you my nomination for the Cross-Time rules as you posted them on the first page. :)

[proditor]

Current Voting:

Thor: 4
Seth: 4

Man, this one is gonna be a squeeker! I'm going to review the line-ups and I'm open to any ideas folks have for the cross time caper. I agree that any team with the Spectre just kinda wins unless it's a story point. ;) So, if anyone has some thoughts, let me hear them. And Rokk, we could also run two contests concurrently, though I guess my favorites, the Creature Commandos, don't really fit in either, alas.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Interesting that you mentioned the Creature Commandos as I thought another interesting battle thread would be "Comic Horrours" against each other: Marvel Dracula, Werewolf by Night, Creature Commandos, etc. - basically comic characters based on classic horrour monsters (though maybe you could fudge and put in insect-body Anton Arcane :) ).

[d-master]

Thor hands down.
I mean Thor beat Superman, anyone that can take down the big S should be able to beat Seth.


Vote: Thor

[proditor]

OOOO! That could be fun too! We could include that whacky Sphinx thing, and the G.I. Robot, and other weird and whacky horroresque guys! Okay, maybe we'll do three of these. ;)

[Maniac_nmt]

what about tournament of the sidekicks?

Tim Drake vs Bucky
Arthur vs Jubilee

(I mean, after hanging out in the Sidekicks lounge long enough I imagine they'd get a little violent, and run roughshood over Doorman):laugh:

[Rokk_Krinn]

I'm guessing you meant Arthur of Tick fame there, Maniac but for some reason I had this really hilarious image of "Arthur, Jr." (as in Aqua-baby) squaring off against Jubilee in a match entitled, "The Babysitter's Nightmare!" :)

[Rokk_Krinn]

Originally posted by d-master
Thor hands down.
I mean Thor beat Superman, anyone that can take down the big S should be able to beat Seth.


Vote: Thor

Er, I don't know how to break the news to you but you got that backwards: Thor lost to Big Blue.

[DTM]

Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
I mean, it's like thinking Captain America would let the Red Skull conquer the world, just not happening, no matter what the odds are, or how desperate the situation.

Sorry Maniac, but I have to STRONGLY disagree with your way of thinking here. Saying Cap will NEVER LOSE when the chips are down, NEVER no matter the odds, is alittle silly.

SURE, in the comics its so, because lets face it, when the chips are down, and Red Skull is above to destory the Eaqrth, Cap HAS TO win, or bye bye Marvel Comics.

Cap CAN lose, Superman CAN lose, Thor Can lose, etc. These characters are the best of the best, but they CAN LOSE. Saying Cap or Thor or Batman ALWAYS WIN, no matter the odds, is being way too close minded here.

[Q99]

They can all lose, if there's someone else behind them, basically (Capt can lose to Red Skull if Spider-man's behind him ready to pick up the torch and fight, Batman can fall if Nightwing's there to save Gotham from the bomb, etc.).

[Maniac_nmt]

no, they always win when the chips are down, and that's anything but closeminded.

Look, 300 men faced off how many at the Alamo? Sure they all died, but they won by giving houston the time he needed.

The Spartans, with 300 men fought off 40,000 and single handedly saved greece though they all died.

Our boys stormed the beaches of Normandy, into vastly superior firepower, better position, better equipment, etc. Yet carried the day because it was required of them.

The 101 Airborne stopped an entire German Blitzkrieg that had the allies running, because they had to or it was all over.

Cap, or Thor for that matter, are the kinds of people, that in these situations will rise above what they should be able to do, and bring home the win.

Heck, Sgt. York single handedly captured over 80 Germans during the first world war, and he was a devout pacifist. Yet when his country needed him he rose to the challenge.

This is not just a standard battle, it's a battle for us all. As such it must be treated that way.

So Thor will go that little bit further, that extra mile.

That's not close minded, if anything it's not me who is being close minded but you (#### I hate that term, it gets tossed out so loosely by folks who have no concept of what they say, but since you choose to use that term....)

[DTM]

I say it because I think you have the idea, no kidding, that characters like Cap and Thor just CANT LOSE, and thats not being very openminded to the possibility that even THEY can fight opponents greater than themselves, or be in situtations that they just cant succeed. That sometimes that extra mile, or that push of willpower, just isnt enough.

Yes, in comics the hero 99.9% of the time wins, but in these types of threads, and not just mine, we have to seperate what HAS TO BE written in the comics to what SHOULD BE written by us, looking objectively at the situation.

[Maniac_nmt]

I am looking at the situation, objectively, I think you aren't.

I believe I said here already Seth, in a non do or die situation probably would beat him (but I guess you aren't looking).

It's not that kind of fight though

[DTM]

Dont take this so personal Maniac, I can see youre getting a bit riled.

Im not specifically talking about THIS fight as I am some of the things youve said here and on my threads. Cap CANT lose, he just doesnt know how. Thor WILL find the way to win. All Im saying is against certain foes, during certain events, even Cap and Thor, Superman and Batman DO LOSE. Thats all.

[Maniac_nmt]

your ####ed right I'm taking it a bit personal, because to many nits slap out that term 'close minded' like it solves all their problems.

Well, since you don't see it my way, you must obviously be closeminded (heavy on the sarcasm there please).

Please note I voted against Cap in the most recent thread. In other fights yes I have sided with him, because the odds are even enough that that will to win carries it through.

Most of any battle is the will to win/the belief you will win.

[proditor]

Whoa, whoa whoa guys. I'm fine with disagreements and all, heck I'm pretty passionate when riled myself. But please, take a breath and relax. I ain't picking sides, just wanted to interject before things go to a potential nasty place.

[DTM]

OK, Im going to stop this right here as I am NOT getting into an argument about if Captain America can ever lose. I dont care, Cap wins, Thor wins, who cares, its NOT worth getting upset.

[DTM]

Already ended Proditor, and rest assured, it wont happen again.

[JayThor]

And the next match is a special encore match- DTM vs Maniac.nmt. The environment is a computer store in Oklahoma City. Place your votes!












;) j/k

[Rokk_Krinn]

Not trying to restart a fight, but I do suggest maybe looking at it from the other side as well:

Seth has just as much reason to not give up as Thor does. Both are beings of belief and religon (mythology to us, but not to themselves and their pantheons). I'm sure in Seth's view, Thor winning is the end of the Helioptian pantheon and the perhaps the rewriting of the universe so the Nordics are the focus of existence.

I guess what I'm saying is, why can't Seth keep fighting when the chips are down?

[DTM]

I wasnt even talking about this battle, just Maniacs view on Cap and Thor in general. I was only saying that they can lose a fight, it doesnt happen often, but it can happen. Thats all. I didnt call him a jerkoff or an idiot or anything.

Yes, I used the word closeminded, and Im sorry that he took it so badly, but I have heard from MANY an occassion where he says the same things, "Cap Cant Lose, Cap Doesnt Know How, No Matter What He Will Always Win", and Im sorry but I find that to be alittle closeminded.

I wasnt trying to start anything with him, I was just trying to do what I thought these types of threads were made for, have alittle comic book debate. Im sorry it went badly proditor, I know more than most how heated these threads can get sometimes.

[JayThor]

To be fair, Cap does have that reputation, DTM. He was the last standing vs Thanos, the one bad guys look to when they need help, the guy who you can always count on. And he looks to Thor. Thor has stood against Seth, Thanos, Hades, Celestials, Galactus, and Surter, and has defeated them all. (ok, he didn't defeat the Celestial, but he did survive...)

[DTM]

Guys, I know Cap and Thor are Tops, I really do like them both, but to refuse to believe that they could EVER lose, no matter what odds are against them, no matter what the situation or what foe they may face, just seems silly to me.

[JayThor]

I am not saying they can't lose, just the reputations they have.

[Rokk_Krinn]

But Cap did lose to Thanos - even when the chips were down and he thought he was the last.

[Maniac_nmt]

ah, but he didn't as thanos doesn't have the gauntlet anymore.

Look it plays out two ways.

1. We go by how the comics depict these guys, as such in a winner takes all match of course the good guy wins

2. We can write it ourselves, and I choose to write it in this match that Thor wins.

It's not wrong or close minded. So maybe I am a little overbearing on Cap. To many people on here tend to look at him as some schmoe with a shield, and an A on his forehead, despite the fact he's not.

Powerwise these things get stilly, cause if so then bang, Thor sucks Seth's life force into the hammer, game over, the odinson doesn't even break a sweat. Or from the team contest, Invisible Woman goes belly up and expands a force bubble from the inside of their heads and no one stops the FF. Maybe it'd be better if the surfer nuked the whole arena, or what ever.

What ever, the only char I can be accredited to getting overly fanboy-ish (and again, I don't see it that way, but what ever) with is Cap. I don't think I've ever said Thor can't loose (again ignoring the fact I said he could loose to Seth).

Whatever I hereby pledge I will take no part in any DTM lead tourney since I obviously can't be objective 'rolls eyes' for the following week.

Ah, and Cap didn't loose did he, Thanos isn't running about with the gauntlet today is he (sorry, can't resist tweaking your nose a little)?

[DTM]

What? Youre quitting my battles because of THIS?

[DTM]

And your arguement with Cap and Thanos doesnt make any sense Maniac. Cap didnt do a darn thing during that battle, and it was thru Thanos' own fault, nothing at all to do with Cap, that he doesnt still have the Gauntlet today.

Why are you taking this so personally, I thought debating comic books was what these threads were all about?

[Rokk_Krinn]

No, you're not tweaking my nose because saying Cap won because Thanos no longer packs the Gauntlet is just a case of "if you wait long enough, eventually even the victors disappear". :) I mean, I'm sure there's some podunk village in France that could argue they beat the Roman Empire that subjugated them for thousands of years because, hey, the Roman Empire is now gone. :)

I agree we have to use comics and in-character. However, you also have to remember that comics are written on the viewpoint of the hero usually winning. There have been times Thor has lost - even when it counts (such as when that paramedic from the post-Heroes Return Thor issues didn't survive). Cap has lost too - he may've stopped Zemo's rocket, but Zemo was around for quite awhile and Bucky still died, for example. Also, you can't really use those arguements for Seth because I'm sure in Seth's viewpoint he's as much a hero as Thor and has just as much to fight for and being Seth has never been a feature comic character, we don't have as much canon on which to base an arguement for his "never giving up when the chips are down". :)

[IronManI]

Two things. Spider-Girl beat Seth. Spider freaking Girl! (Go Mayday, its your birthday, Go Mayday, its your birthday)
And Cap did lose to Thanos. He just got a second chance. Also, I am surprised no one mentioned that fact that Thanos, sans Infinity Gauntlet, stood toe to toe with Odin and fought him to a stale mate, even walking, with trouble mind you, thru a full continuous Odin Force blast. Not to shabby eh?

[Amai]

Seth

[proditor]

Well, after all of that, the current votes are:

Thor: 5
Seth: 5

Heh. BTW, I'm not annoyed at anyone over getting defensive or passionate, we all know how these things can go. Just thought I'd throw that out there so that DTM and Maniac_nmt understand that I just don't want to see them fighting. It's the good-hearted 12 year old in me. :)

The 35 year old rest of me would probably be arguing just as hard if someone were to say that Iron Fist could beat Karate Kid. ;) Mind you, IF is my guilty pleasure favorite hero, but KK is just a freakin' monster.

Okay, I'm going to start a new thread tomorrow for suggestions on the three potential contests we've been discussing, and Rokk Krinn sent me three excellent potential teams for the cross time caper.

That's all for tonight, I'm off to see if my E-bay auctions go up anymore. ;) (If you know anyone who wants old Robotech toys, well, I'll be your sugardaddy.)

[Thunderclese]

I vote Thor.

[proditor]

Okay, I'm going to castr my vote and call this puppy. I thought about this for a long long time. The argument that this is not necessarily for the fate of the world, just who steers it, is an important one to me. If Heliopolis takes the reigns, that means Osiris and not Seth will be in the driver's seat.

That said, I still can't see Thor letting this one slide. Thor has a knack for overcoming magic-users. If the goal was to trick Thor for 4 issues and weave a detailed and complicated plot, I'd give it to Seth in a heartbeat. But it's a "poof" battle. This is one of those places that a well-rounded brick like Thor is going to clean house. As tough as Seth is, I think in the end it will come down to smacking the bejeezus out of each other and that advantage goes to Thor.

Since all I had to do was not vote, the outcome is the same even with mine.

Thor: 7
Seth: 5

The Norse will guide the fate of mortals for the next century.

Thanks to everyone who voted and contributed to these threads, it was a lot of fun. :) I'll be putting up the first of three new contest "starters" in a little bit, probably either tonight or latest tomorrow evening.

[JayThor]

BOOOH-YAH!!!!!!!! Thor rules!!!!!!


All hail the king of comic book gods!!!:cool:

[Maniac_nmt]

now if only they'd get his hair color right:classic:

[ENDERX]

Thor wins hands down plus he's got his pyhco hammer(wait i'm thinking Ultamate thor).

[proditor]

Maniac_nmt and Jaythor: You guys should read the Thor that showed up in the Comico series "The Elementals" Oh Momma! He was a beast and hysterical to boot. Still not a dead accurate representation, but he had red hair! ;)

[JayThor]

Actually, it is Marvel who changed the hair color. Thor from mythology was a red head.