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Draddog
05/13/2004, 12:27
<P><B>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE</B><P ALIGN="CENTER"><B><FONT SIZE="3">CATWOMAN MOVIE PROMOTION FOR HEROCLIX ANNOUNCED</FONT></B><P><IMG SRC="/images/CatwomanFig.jpg" ALIGN="RIGHT">May 13, 2004 (SEATTLE) — WizKids Inc., makers of the best-selling <B>Mage Knight</B>™, <B>MechWarrior®: Dark Age</B> and <B>HeroClix</B>® collectable miniatures games (CMGs), is proud to announce a Limited Edition figure of the Catwoman character from the upcoming Warner Bros. film.<P>Beginning June 4th, customers who purchase a <B>DC HeroClix</B> Hypertime Starter Set can send in their original receipt, UPC, shipping and handeling and a coupon from the WizKids website and will receive a Catwoman figure in the mail, while supplies last. There is no limit to how many times a customer can redeem for a Catwoman figure, if a separate coupon, receipt and UPC are used each time. The coupon will be located online at http://www.wizkidsgames.com on June 4th.<P>Additionally, customers who purchase a <B>DC HeroClix</B> Hypertime Starter Set at a WizKids-attended from the WizKids convention booth will automatically receive a Catwoman figure, while supplies last. <P>Learn more about HeroClix online at <A HREF=http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/>www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix</A>. The game is fully supported with organized play at conventions and in-store tournaments.<P>Founded by 20-year game-industry veteran Jordan Weisman, WizKids is a Seattle-based game developer and publisher dedicated to creating tabletop games driven by imagination. Its <B>Mage Knight</B>, <B>MechWarrior</B> and <B>HeroClix</B> CMGs are among the most successful games on the market today, and the company has sold tens of millions of figures worldwide. For additional information, visit wizkidsgames.com.

space_cowboy
05/13/2004, 12:29
Oh, you got me.

Looks like they found a way to clear out all that Hypertime.

Rottgutt
05/13/2004, 12:30
I'm torn between my revulsion at what I've heard about the movie and another promo Clix...

CREED
05/13/2004, 12:33
an LE I DON'T need!!!!!!!!This movie is gonna blow worse than Vansuckling!

Cold_Blooded
05/13/2004, 12:33
hmmm...... well I need a premier starter anyway for the maps.

CaptainMarvel
05/13/2004, 12:33
It's not even a clix? It's just a figure? What the hell do I want with that?

Pipedream
05/13/2004, 12:33
My question is if it has to be a regular starter, or can it be a premier edition. I have been thinking of picking up a premier ed. starter for a while now.

drgnoftyr
05/13/2004, 12:33
hehe i'll take another ht starter i guess but why couldn't it have been universe starter's hehe;) ;) ;)

echopryme
05/13/2004, 12:35
Oh, man...

More Hypertime duplicates for me. How many ####ed Gotham Cops can I put in a tackle box already?! Hey, anyone wanna speculate on the stats for the dial? I'm betting on Regenerate, seeing as how the movie Catwoman is supposed to have "9 Lives" (god that's stupid). And she has the whip, so bet on Incapacitate too.

I hate my addiction somedays:rolleyes:

SonofVader
05/13/2004, 12:37
Looks like another stupid promo I'm getting... I can avoid the LEs and Uniques that I have no desire for, but Promo and Mailaway figures are my bane...

Psylockeslover
05/13/2004, 12:38
ya know.....I used to love Catwoman.....


This has just further soured my taste.....

clix
05/13/2004, 12:39
???????????????????????????
What a waste of Plastic.

Supes
05/13/2004, 12:40
DC does realize that it takes more than a hot actress to make a movie right?

BrotherMagneto
05/13/2004, 12:40
Originally posted by CaptainMarvel
It's not even a clix? It's just a figure? What the hell do I want with that?

No, it's a clix, it's just not on its base.

Sandra Wu-San
05/13/2004, 12:41
*Marks June 4th in her calander* Looks like a cool figure, want it just for the sculpt. Hopefully we'll have L/C, BCF, Super senses, and perhaps perplex? Who knows? Haven't seen the movie but I like the scuplt

PantherPriest
05/13/2004, 12:41
Well Catwoman technically had 9 lives in Batman returns. It was kind of cool at first, because they were all ways that she could've pheasably lived through... sort of. I'll do it, ironically because I still need the unique catwoman from that set. We better not have to pay for shipping.

WarHULK
05/13/2004, 12:41
Argh... I'm so very torn... On the one hand I think that Catwoman is going to be an absolute abomination to the comic industry... and at the same time, I'm a heroclix completest and I want to have EVERY figure... including this... this... THING... I don't know if I could even field that figure without feeling wrong... but dern it, I know I'm going to have to get it... I hope the stats are so-so that way I have no huge need to play her.

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 12:41
Wow and most of my venues don't even HAVE anymore HT starters and they don't plan on ordering anymore. Gamestop, EB and such cleared theirs out fairly cheap awhile ago.

Oh well, guess I don't need this figure anyways.

thugit
05/13/2004, 12:42
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
No, it's a clix, it's just not on its base.



What sort of stats, BroMags?

Quade
05/13/2004, 12:44
Hmmm....well it's an LE...I must have it :)

CaptainMarvel
05/13/2004, 12:45
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
No, it's a clix, it's just not on its base.


Hey thanks for clearing that up. It said figure in the artical so I wasn't sure.

Now I have to see if my local venue has some HT ST in stock.

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 12:46
I'd also like to add that I hope she has LOTS of smoke cloud, cause you know, everyone should have it.


/miffed that Ghost Rider has Smoke cloud instead of some useful power :(

4est
05/13/2004, 12:46
Yeah I am curious about the stats. And since Motor City Comic Con is this weekend I wonder if they will have any. I am also curious if a Premiere Starter counts cause I am still missing the maps. And the local department stores are filled to the brim with them.

Grinner
05/13/2004, 12:48
Originally posted by CREED
an LE I DON'T need!!!!!!!!This movie is gonna blow worse than Vansuckling!

But it's your faaaaaavorite - Halle Berry! :cheeky:

Look at it this way - you'll probably prefer the figure's acting to hers :laugh:

I'm thinking it's going need some pretty good stats for me to buy a starter for it. On the other hand, I don't think our new player has much Hypertime...

rouge2
05/13/2004, 12:49
How long is this promotion running? Maybe I'll set up a sealed DC Starter Tournament in July or August. Everyone who plays gets an LE Catwoman in addition to the tourney LEs you could win.

Quade
05/13/2004, 12:49
Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
I'd also like to add that I hope she has LOTS of smoke cloud, cause you know, everyone should have it.


/miffed that Ghost Rider has Smoke cloud instead of some useful power :(

I'm right there with you buddy :)

absolutvt69
05/13/2004, 12:51
Well I'd rather have to buy a starter kit than sit through the movie...

hair10
05/13/2004, 12:52
Originally posted by Sandra Wu-San
*Marks June 4th in her calander* Looks like a cool figure, want it just for the sculpt. Hopefully we'll have L/C, BCF, Super senses, and perhaps perplex? Who knows? Haven't seen the movie but I like the scuplt
I'm with Sandra on this one. A new Catwoman fig (regardless of what the movie is or does) is a bonus in my book!

supermangl1
05/13/2004, 12:55
Wow the movie must be a true stinker for all the promo they are putting into this, the clix, Jim Lee draws Halle Berry, etc. I don't plan on seeing the movie or buy this clix. I may get one in Wizard World Chi-town but I'll pass as of now.

SITHSPAWN
05/13/2004, 12:55
Well, I was wanting to get some more maps to get laminated and I could use more object tokens. At least I can get something else for it now.

Frontman
05/13/2004, 12:58
It could be....nah, this one's lame. Gah. Hopefully this is just the film fiasco prior to Hellblazer and Batman Begins.

webhead817
05/13/2004, 12:59
As unimpressed as I am so far with the Catwoman movie, I am very impressed with this sculpt and promotion. I'll probably get a few of these...and any other movie tie-ins WizKids can manage. Very nice.

webhead817
05/13/2004, 13:00
Dare I say...the sculpt looks...

purrrfect?






(ouch!)

SITHSPAWN
05/13/2004, 13:01
I'd more interested in the fig if it was Halle Berry from Monsters Ball:squareeye

Grappler
05/13/2004, 13:03
I think this is great and I so hope it succeeds, because the marriage of clix to movies will strengthen clix if it works. I hope they do this with the X3 characters. And if they should venture beyond Marvel and DC, then all the better. Think of all the cool movie characters that it would of been cool to have a clix of.

Darkskaven
05/13/2004, 13:03
Does this event will work outside the USA and Canada ? Well, by exemple in France ? :rolleyes:

If not, I will have to trade Indy UK's for this figure.... Please guys keep one for me ! ;)

SonofVader
05/13/2004, 13:05
Originally posted by webhead817
Dare I say...the sculpt looks...

purrrfect?






(ouch!)

AHHH!!! NOOOO!!! SOMEONE WENT THERE!!!

YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY!!!

Whiz Fan
05/13/2004, 13:08
Cool.

I just wish I had a Shaquille O'Neil Steel and a Gene Hackperson Lex to go with it.

thugit
05/13/2004, 13:08
If it's a good dial, I could be convinced to put the REV Catwoman sculpt on it...Assuming that this one has different stats than the REV.


REV Catwoman is still one of my favorite sculpts.

MKelly67
05/13/2004, 13:11
Originally posted by webhead817
As unimpressed as I am so far with the Catwoman movie, I am very impressed with this sculpt and promotion. I'll probably get a few of these...and any other movie tie-ins WizKids can manage. Very nice.

How many starters are you willing to buy?

dernjg
05/13/2004, 13:16
Where was the Hellboy movie tie-in? THAT would have got my juices flowing. Or Punisher?
There's still time for Spider-Man, FF and X3.
And why not a Smallville Clix?

For me, I'm trying my hardest to pretend that this catwoman movie just happens to have the same name as a cool DC character. Much like the Karate Kid.

Steve Man-Bat
05/13/2004, 13:17
Maybe it's a Catwoman with stealth....
I would like a Catwoman with stealth....

mdr55
05/13/2004, 13:18
I read the article about it and have a question.

It says that if you buy it at a wizkids sponsered booth at the convention you automatically will recieve the figure while supplies last. But since the promotion starts June 4, will it be available at the Philly convention???

Thanks.

SITHSPAWN
05/13/2004, 13:19
I think the only reason we're seeing a LE for this movie is because WB knows it will bomb. So, that means we'll probably see one for the Batman movie too. Wonder if there will ever be one for Supes?

Basil Elks
05/13/2004, 13:21
Huh? :confused:

supermangl1
05/13/2004, 13:23
I think if this trend continued it would be awesome, to see some different movie clix tie ins. I'm just upset that everything about Catwoman was changed. I'll file this movie under carp, right behind the Captain America movie.....

But I will try to get one at Wizard World, if the dial is decent, the vet. catwoman is a cool piece. I gotta get a Universe starter so no mail ins for me...

thugit
05/13/2004, 13:24
Originally posted by Steve Man-Bat
Maybe it's a Catwoman with stealth....
I would like a Catwoman with stealth....


Like the Unique one?

;)

jon-el
05/13/2004, 13:26
oh carp.

Time and effort was spent on this ?!?!?!?

NO Superboy, NO Kyle Green Lantern, NO Kid Flash, et cetera
But we get a Halle Berry Catwoman ?

I know the folks at Warner Brothers movie division have had some effed up delusions when it comes to comics into movies, but now they're screwing around with my toys ?

ugh.

urlmaker
05/13/2004, 13:27
Two words for you. Clix points. Grrrrrr. Couldn't figure out a way to reward me for the 20,000 clix I have already purchased? You expoit my addiction? You guys are so mean. Thanks for nothing.









I am going to buy my HYPERTIME starter now... :p

tyroclix
05/13/2004, 13:27
Not interested in the movie what-so-ever.

But I think it's a creative and fun way to promote the film. I love the idea.

But tying it to buying the DC Starter set - that's a little weak. Mailaway is fine - buy 20 bones worth of HC stuff is fine. But having to buy a set that came out in 2002 and has a rulebook and PAC that is 100% outdated is just lame.

Tie it into Universe, at least.

thugit
05/13/2004, 13:29
Maybe, just maybe, they're trying to get NEW people interested.... Y'know, people who don't play clix, but are 1 of the 50 people who actually go see the movie, and find out about this.

:noid: :rolleyes: :ermm:

darthnoir
05/13/2004, 13:34
It would be hilarious (but highly improbable) if the received more orders for this clix than they sell tickets to this obvious stink-fest of a movie.

CapSpalding
05/13/2004, 13:36
I have no problem with clix/movie tie-ins, but attaching the promo to a starter that most of us already have--and Wiz Kids will soon be banning--doesn't sit well with me. Hopefully its just another Incapacitate figure so I won't have to feel bad about missing it.

snatreaper
05/13/2004, 13:36
I for one have no desire to have any part of this promotion. I hate what they've done to the character, the costume is a joke. It would take one heck of a dial to even get my attention, and then I cannot stoop to buying anything for this piece of trash. For all the movies the could have had tie-ins for, this was the absolute worst.

I predict that we won't see another one of these movie tie-ins after this one is a complete and utter bust.

Socko
05/13/2004, 13:38
ohh now they gotsta make the adam west batman....

at least he is cool.

wait...halle is hot... but still...

Did wizkids think all of us would be like :eek: :grin: :eek: over this? i know some want it too though...

DS-00-0, FSD
05/13/2004, 13:39
Items will likely ship in 6 to 8 weeks.

Which means I am willing to bet in 7 to 9 weeks we will see several auctions on ebay for "Topless Movie Catwoman" clix. :rolleyes:



;)

TheRavenHQ
05/13/2004, 13:39
This is a sad sad day.

tyroclix
05/13/2004, 13:40
Maybe, just maybe, they're trying to get NEW people interested.... Y'know, people who don't play clix, but are 1 of the 50 people who actually go see the movie, and find out about this.

Wait - so this promo will be at movie-theatres around the country / world? How else would they find out about it if they aren't logging into HCRealms or the WizKids site?

You're probably right about the plan - which is why it would seem to make sense to give them the right Rule-Book.

SITHSPAWN
05/13/2004, 13:41
If they are trying to get new people interested why have them buy a starter that will do them no good. They still need the current rules (which change again when Universe comes out!?) and PAC!

I like the idea of the LE tieing into the movie but they are going about it all wrong on how to get the darn thing. I hope they keep doing the LE's but change how you can get them.

Socko
05/13/2004, 13:41
DS, yeah, thats not your cup of tea. we all know whats on your mind...

gryphonred
05/13/2004, 13:42
This is wrong on so many levels. First, if they wanted us to buy some more HT, than give us an LE that is wroth it. (ie redone Flash, Superman, Doomsday etc)

Second, I thought that this game was based off of comics. When a new comic book movie comes out, we the COMIC BOOK version of that character in a set of clix. Now they are allowing straight movie characters to become clix? She isn't even Selina Kyle.

To think that we are going to see this clix before a Superboy clix. It should be a crime. :angry:

Ed0825
05/13/2004, 13:44
Yeah, we probably got to buy the HT Starter and also pay $5 for shipping and handling or something. You know I wish I still had the box for the HT starter around. All someone would have to do is use that UPC code, download a coupon, get a receipt from a store that doesn't itemize items which is most comic or hobby stores and buy another item in the $15-20 range and say that you actually bought the starter intstead. I am not saying anyone should actually do this or that I would, but you know it will probably happen.

I like the movie tie in idea, I just hate giving this particular stinker of a movie a tie in. We could have at least had one for Spidey in his movie costume.

Doomtoy
05/13/2004, 13:45
What's WRONG with you guys? Geez, we have an INSTANT COLLECTIBLE here!

(stops to catch breath... must stop laughing... gonna hurt myself...)

No, seriously! I mean, sure, the movie is likely gonna blow, but man, I'm in for at LEAST two of those Catwomen! Man, those are GREAT! Man, I can't even LOOK at those and keep a straight face!!!

AlgertMan
05/13/2004, 13:46
i'll buy

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 13:51
They have THIS to offer easily, Yet they still can't make Galactus available to the majority of it's customers :(

the itsy bit
05/13/2004, 13:53
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
No, it's a clix, it's just not on its base.

It's a clix with NO base.

in other words: it's just the figure with NO dial for the people that didn't get it.


It doesn't help new players because they won't now aboot this fig, or is it promoted in the cinema ?
then again it should be tied in with the movie ticket (send in movie ticket get your Catwoman !) that would force people to go see this movie !!:devious:

BrotherMagneto
05/13/2004, 13:56
Let me clarify:

In the PICTURE, it's not on its base.

When it comes to your house, the figure will be on a brand-spanking-new base with really playable stats.

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 13:56
It doesn't help new players because they won't now aboot this fig, or is it promoted in the cinema ?
then again it should be tied in with the movie ticket (send in movie ticket get your Catwoman !) that would force people to go see this movie !!:devious:

If this was true, just wait outside the theater and when the WHOLE crowd (2 people) comes out, take their stubs for free.

Alas, it won't work like that I'm sure.

kwsazul
05/13/2004, 13:57
-Insert gratuitous joke about finally being able to play with Halle Berry-

Will we get X men movie clix, Hulk movie clix, Spider man clix, LXG Clix.....gasp a Van Helsing Clix!?!?! He would be broken though, because he could beat an evil moon being flung at him with Batman on it! ;) :p :grin:

kwsazul
05/13/2004, 13:58
Seriously though if she is Batman TA, then yes I will get her. If not...meh.

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 13:58
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
....with really playable stats.

That's some wishful thinking, huh Mags? ;) J/K

BrotherMagneto
05/13/2004, 14:01
Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
That's some wishful thinking, huh Mags? ;) J/K

Oh ye of little faith, wait 'till ye see them before ye pass judgement. :)

absolutvt69
05/13/2004, 14:09
BrotherMagneto, is it just the regular HT starter or is the premier version included as well?

4est
05/13/2004, 14:10
Well now I am intrigued.

Wish they would have made an Abe Sapien for Hellboy but I am intrigued.

darius_dax1
05/13/2004, 14:10
Originally posted by gryphonred
This is wrong on so many levels. First, if they wanted us to buy some more HT, than give us an LE that is wroth it. (ie redone Flash, Superman, Doomsday etc) How do you know, without seeing the movie or the stats, that this character will not be "wroth it"????

Second, I thought that this game was based off of comics. When a new comic book movie comes out, we the COMIC BOOK version of that character in a set of clix. Now they are allowing straight movie characters to become clix? She isn't even Selina Kyle.I would love to see X-Men movie version X-Men. The more the merrier.

To think that we are going to see this clix before a Superboy clix. It should be a crime. Good for WK that it isn't. :angry:

Darkskaven
05/13/2004, 14:11
Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
If this was true, just wait outside the theater and when the WHOLE crowd (2 people) comes out, take their stubs for free.
Alas, it won't work like that I'm sure.


:laugh: One of the best jokes I've read for a long time !

Glen Quagmire
05/13/2004, 14:27
Geez, what pessimism on what should be considered good news for everyone involved in Heroclix, whether this figure interests you or not.

First, there's the corporate synergy at play here. Warner Bros and DC considered Heroclix viable enough to include it as part of a promotion for the movie. I'm not sure how the ownership of the "Patience Price" character works, but if she's considered a WB character, then that paves the way for us to get the Batman Beyond character as a clix. Maybe even Static Shock.

But why didn't they do this before?

Maybe no one had the idea before.

Why didn't they tie it into Universe?

You've got to be kidding. That makes about the same sense as a Marvel LE being offered as the prize for a DC-only constructed event.

But why the two-year-old Hypertime starter?

Just speaking for myself, I still have more than two dozen figures to go in that set to complete it, so I'll probably take my chances with this promotion. And not everyone started playing the game two years ago.

But how will new players find out about it?

In comics and gaming stores, of course. I don't think there'll be a way to really promote it at theatres, but retailers can promote it along with the FCBD giveaway, or just in general to get people to buy more clix.

How could they do this figure before Kyle Rayner and Captain Carrot

Well, Marvel had to wait for four sets to get the Silver Surfer.

Spock
05/13/2004, 14:28
hmm. I want the figure, but I don't really want more hypertime, and I'm not even sure any of the local stores still have hypertime starters. What to do, what to do..

Kaitouace
05/13/2004, 14:33
Sounds like an eBay purchase to me.

I wonder what current power accurately represents overacting?

Spock
05/13/2004, 14:35
Originally posted by Kaitouace
Sounds like an eBay purchase to me.


Do your ebay purchases come with receipts?

mbdeyes
05/13/2004, 14:40
I'm all for the tie in idea (promoting clix to non clixers is a great idea), but not for this movie. It has nothing to do with catwoman and everything to do with miss Barry (who I don't happen to be much of a fan of).

I hope it doesn't have the Batman TA. He has nothing to do with Patience Phillips or whatever the character's name is. If Selina found out about this chick, she'd scratch her eyes out.

DS-00-0, FSD
05/13/2004, 14:47
Originally posted by mbdeyes
If Selina found out about this chick, she'd scratch her eyes out.

Now that's a movie I'd go to see!


Re-ow!! Cat fight!!!!!

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 14:49
Oh good god, please do NOT even consider making a static shock figure. That show is SO pathetic.

How can Static shock beat the JLA, Superman, Batman and so forth??? I know Clark Kent/Superman deal is sad, but Static is with his GF and then says "be right back" goes into a bathroom and then out comes static shock with a blindfold mask and a cape? Even Superman made his hair different, but with Static his afro stays the same!

Mr_Clicky
05/13/2004, 14:50
Originally posted by Kaitouace
I wonder what current power accurately represents overacting?

Smoke Cloud?

WarHULK
05/13/2004, 14:53
I'm wondering... if we can get a tie-in like this then... in there any possible way to beg WK to make an Abe Sapien and Liz from Hellboy? I'd prefer their comic versions but I'd settle for movie versions! Something has to be done about missing the other two major players from the BPRD! I wouldn't mind a Roger clix for that matter... Even if there is NEVER an indyclix expantion I think the fans really, truely, need an Abe and Liz figure. I wonder if I'll be able to flag down a big shot from WK at WWE so I can beg for these?...

Doomtoy
05/13/2004, 15:02
No one would like an Abe Sapien figure more than me.

Trust me on this.

But I doubt the film company or Dark Horse is willing to pony up to do a crossover promotion with WizKids. For the second Hellboy movie, maybe, but I ain't holdin' my breath.

Time/Warner, on the other hand, has obviously gone in with WizKids to do a cross-promotional thing to promote the movie and pump up interest in the character.

It's half worked with me. I am SO in there for the figures. As to the movie... meh. Maybe. If it turns out to be pretty good, or so bad it's funny, I'll go. Otherwise, not.

Being a Judge, I'm always in need of spare maps, freebies, and so on, and Hypertime figures weren't bad. Maybe I'll pull another E Batman... those things are trade bait par excellence...

New Warrior
05/13/2004, 15:04
Maybe its a good fig. The sculpt is nice and maybe the stats might be too. Think Catwoman meets Hook...errr, I mean Con Artist plus she can have the Danger girl team ability! Its no differnt then the PSM hulk movie promo. only u have to spend a lil more or just go to wiz world.

Hack-n-slash
05/13/2004, 15:07
webhead817 wrote:
Dare I say...the sculpt looks...
purrrfect?

Ooh, look! It's an Halle cat!

theSHOWDOWN
05/13/2004, 15:17
Warner Brothers would have been smart to give out Catwoman at the door to the theater with a little information in the package a la rookie Hulks.

They would have needed alot more figs, but it would A) boost ticket sales to the movie from clix fans who detest the disfiguration of a great comic character, and B) make many, many more people aware of Heroclix. I don't know how new people will get into the game when it's existing players buying starters.

Oh well...at least you don't have to buy a $100 VIP pass to have a chance at this one...:cross-eye

gryphonred
05/13/2004, 15:18
How do you know, without seeing the movie or the stats, that this character will not be "wroth it"????

I don't, nor do I care if she is a good clix.

I would love to see X-Men movie version X-Men. The more the merrier.

Thats fine, I don't want to see it.

Good for WK that it isn't

OK, It's just my option. Don't mean to start any flaming. If you would like to use this clix, all the power to you. Me, I just think that if Wizkids wants use to buy some more HT, maybe give us a charactor that most of us would like to use. Not a clix the doubles as a movie promo.

theSHOWDOWN
05/13/2004, 15:21
Originally posted by mbdeyes
If Selina found out about this chick, she'd scratch her eyes out.

So would Selina scratch out Halle's eyes or...

would Selina scratch out her own eyes...


It's really sad that it didn't end up being Ashley Judd, who was originally cast as Selina Kyle. She would have been a smokin' Catwoman. With Halle Berry as Catwoman, I want to scratch out my eyes.

mbdeyes
05/13/2004, 15:28
Oh really? And here I thought that they just wrote a movie around Halle, rather than having a decent idea and casting appropriately....


Here's a question... the movies and TV (birds of prey) seem to see Selina as having super powers. I've never seen any comic evidence of this.... can anyone tell me, is she considered a metahuman? If so, why?

krusticlese
05/13/2004, 15:28
It seems like a poorly thought-out promotion at best...


... par for the course for Wizkids!

Why not the UPC and reciept for 3 DC boosters? You'd make an extra buck to boot, and it would look less like you are taking advantage of a situation to clear out old, useless product.

Wizkids should run their promotions throgh a "test audience" or something similar, before opening them up to the public.

golden
05/13/2004, 15:33
Man, that movie's going to ####. And that's one ugly click.

Marlow
05/13/2004, 15:38
Well an LE is better than the Rookie Hulks they gave out for the hulk movie! However I think if they want to get new players they should have done it as a lost leader and handed them out at the Cinema.

So a question from a non-american what is A UPC? Is that the bar-code on the bottom of the box?

Marlow.

krusticlese
05/13/2004, 15:43
Marlow:

It's a Universal Pricing Code, and you've got it: it's the barcode at the bottom of the box. Right next to the Clix Points :rolleyes:

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 15:43
Yes, a UPC stands for Universal Product Code and it is the bar code on the bottom. Don't they use Bar codes over in Europe?

Uberman
05/13/2004, 15:45
Whats in the premier edition, by the way? Are the maps different from the one that came in the regular DC starter? This whole "buy a starter" thing sorta rubs me the wrong way, like it seems alot of you guys. It's just silly. Give me another way to get it and I'd be all over it, yo. But this.... it's doubtful at best.

Marlow
05/13/2004, 15:47
BrotherMagneto Wrote:
>Let me clarify:
>In the PICTURE, it's not on its base.
>When it comes to your house, the
>figure will be on a brand-spanking-new base
>with really playable stats.

You know I do feel sory for you Brother Magneto. Every time you say something people pull it apart!

Marlow.

Ghost_Rider_92
05/13/2004, 15:48
Actually in the picture, it looks like the figure is pulled apart from the base. :laugh: :laugh: ;)

Mordantos
05/13/2004, 15:51
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
new base with really playable stats.
Oh, what a tease :cheeky:

Phantom
05/13/2004, 15:51
You know, that picture had me flinching to hit the "Back" button in a way I haven't known since goatse.

Dear god, this looks like THE worst comic book movie ever made. It's going to make "Dungeons & Dragons" look like LOTR.

Glen Quagmire
05/13/2004, 15:56
Uberman, the map in the premiere set is different that the starter. Cool outdoor map, funky indoor one.

The figures, IIRC, are E Batman, R Harley Quinn, R Bane, R Robin, R Joker, E Clayface, E Hawkman, E (might be V) Aquaman, E Man-Bat, and R Huntress.

Marlow
05/13/2004, 15:58
Thanks GR92 and krusticlese.

We use Bar codes and ISBN numbers but we do not use UPC, Ghost Rider 92.

We are just a little eccentric over here!

Marlow.

rouge2
05/13/2004, 16:00
Figure Make up for Premier:

E Batman
R Robin
R Huntress
R Hawkman
V Aquaman

R Harley Quinn
R Bane
R Clayface III
R Joker
E Man-Bat

Both 200 point teams with a flyer and an Arch-enemy pairing. Basically used for demos/introduction to the game.

1164
05/13/2004, 16:02
I have to agree with gryphonred to a degree. While I have the complete base sets and uniques for DC Hero Clix, and perfer DC to Marvel, I see no point in a new Catwoman just for a cross promotion. The character is not that interesting except for her connection to Batman, whose not going to be in the movie. The movie costume is lame and as a highly skilled human combatant her dial can't be particularly compelling. I probably will collect one just because is a DC fig and I'm all over the DC clix, but I doubt I'll use her unless she's got some perplex or something like that, otherwise whe's just another unarmed fighter, and there's already plenty of them in the DC sets.

darthnoir
05/13/2004, 16:04
I wonder what current power accurately represents overacting?

How about poison? Which is pretty much what she as been to any super-hero movie she's been in (or any James Bond movie for that matter).

echopryme
05/13/2004, 16:06
Okay everyone, I've been following the atricles about the movie, and...

It's worse than you think.

So here's the basic idea. Throughout the ages, many different women have worn the Catwoman identity to avenge themselves for some apparent wrong. Once they die, they get another 8 lives to live in vengence. This started with some Egypt thing, which mean we'll probably see a scene where there is some Cult of Bast in flashback. The current Catwoman is Patience Phillips, who became Catwoman after Selina Kyle in Batman Returns. So, technically, there are two Catwoman's running around, which means I wouldn't even be shocked if the movie wasn't even set in Gotham. But the really fun thing is this... it allos continuity to include ALL of the actresses that played Catwoman over the years. Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, Eartha Kitt, and Michelle Pheiffer. Since they never established until Michelle Pheiffer that the name was Selina Kyle, I think we're supposed to assume that the others were different people that took the identity.

So what do we have? Well, as far as I can tell, we've got a female Crow knock-off with an origin story that would make Hawkman reach for the Advil and would be best suited by the appearance of the Cobra Cult. By the way, did I mention that the arch-enemy of this Catwoman is a lady who owns a make-up company, played by Sharon Stone.

Yeah:noid:

Now, to sum things up... Yes the movie's gonna blow. Yes the Clix will probably be worth more than the DVD when it comes out. Yes I'll still see it, because as bad s it's gonna be, it's not a Marvel movie, and it CAN'T be as bad as Punisher. And Yes I'll buy another starter to get this thing.

God Help Me...

saxman0829
05/13/2004, 16:16
What are the stats like? Does it have the ability to make everyone on its team not want to ever work with it again? how about the ability to demand a larger part in a game?

Glen Quagmire
05/13/2004, 16:23
Krusticlese said: Why not the UPC and reciept for 3 DC boosters? You'd make an extra buck to boot, and it would look less like you are taking advantage of a situation to clear out old, useless product.

I could see the three-booster deal being good, but the press release had that "while supplies last" blurb. Keeping it as a starter-only promo helps prevent this from becoming Galactusgate II. If they opened it up to booster receipts, they'd run out pretty quick.

And this starter doesn't become useless for a long time. DC's fourth set comes out sometime this fall, and retirement wouldn't pop up until DC's version of Universe, several months after that.

darthnoir
05/13/2004, 16:31
To WizKids,

Pleae note that I really dig the concept of the movie tie in. To be honest, my hostility is not pointed at you, but at the sorry excuse for a Diva that has apparently legally changed her first name to be "Oscar-Winner".

DarkCrisis
05/13/2004, 16:34
Why does WB continue to try to promote this movie. Eevn THEY admit the internt buzz is horrid. The movie will flop. Everyone knows this.

And now WK makes a fig for a non-comic character? Why? The directer has said thuer character has nothing to do with the comic aside from the name. I swear if WB makes DC get rid of Selina I'll drop thier books likea bad habit (cause it really is! hehe)

WB just continues to irrate me. This and some of their other decisions are just awful.

WK I know you did this for $$$. Your a business and I can can respect SOME of the decisions youmake but getting in bed with the devil?

You know whats really sad? I'll probably end up getting one cause I'd love a more playable Catwoman fig. Just have to pry Halle's Cat-Woman off the base 1st.

Steve Man-Bat
05/13/2004, 16:39
I meant to say like the R/E/V with stealth.
BAH!

But nothing from this movie may be smart eniugh to have outwit.

Glen Quagmire
05/13/2004, 16:40
Hmmm. I see this as more of a Heroclix promotion than a movie promotion. WK needs to sell the Hypertime starters more than WB needs Heroclix players to go see the movie. :ermm:

Wasteland
05/13/2004, 17:00
First she ruins the character, then she ruins the movie, and now she ruins Heroclix????!!! Is there anything she won't stoop to?

:)

Eh, I don't know if it's worth 25 bucks. I'll see the stats first.

Doomtoy
05/13/2004, 17:03
I agree that giving away free Catwoman clix at the theatre with the purchase of a ticket would have been good...

...because then all us Clix freaks could just hang out at the trash can and collect dozens of them for nothing. How many of US are going to go see that movie? I suspect the only ones that will are people who don't know "Heroclix" from "Shinola..."

miridor
05/13/2004, 17:08
truly the first LE that I will happily pass up.

New Warrior
05/13/2004, 17:09
Whats with all the Halle Hatred? I think shes a good actress and looks incredible....especially in that outfit. Im not sticking up for the movie. But hell if u guys saw VanHelsing, Matrix, Resident Evil, Underworld or House of the Dead why wouldnt u sit through another movie that ruins a story and/or franchise. I personally thought Underworld looked good but that 5ucked so why cant the opposite happen? Plus the sculpt is pretty good. Alot better then the Taco Bell Hulk from PS2. At least all the fan boys can say they got/played with Halle Berry.

Captain K.
05/13/2004, 17:11
Love the paint job. It looks like her eyes are bugged out, saying, "Who the **** let Halle play me in a movie?"

shin-goji
05/13/2004, 17:11
Purchase a DC Hypertime set for a figure that rapes years of DC history? You must be high.

hair10
05/13/2004, 17:14
Originally posted by shin-goji
Purchase a DC Hypertime set for a figure that rapes years of DC history? You must be high.
How about...

"Purchase a DC Hypertime set for a figure that is very playable" (according to Bro_Mags anyway).

New Warrior
05/13/2004, 17:19
Look on the bright side...She cant be any worse the Mr. Sinster. 106 for 1 click of inv, some 6 range psychic blast with a 9 attack (same as Swat Specialist). So dont ###### and Moan over how ####py she is/ will be but complain about the charcters they kill in click form, Sinister,Apocolypse, Inf. cap america....

O and dont be surprised to see this happen again for the Elektra movie!!!!:devious:

Wasteland
05/13/2004, 17:31
Originally posted by Kaitouace
Sounds like an eBay purchase to me.

I wonder what current power accurately represents overacting?

Definately the power listed on the 12th slot of a character, sometimes earlier. It's this power called "KO" in big red letters. It has the power to kill any character. Pretty strong, and that's what overacting ends up doing...

darius_dax1
05/13/2004, 18:22
WK is tyrying to do something to keep HeroClix fresh and all some of you can do is knock it. If they keep getting this kind of reception for their promotions then you can kiss the promotions goodbye. If you don't like the idea behind this or any other promotion just don't pay any heed to it. I for one am happy that there will be a new clix, a [b]MOVIE[.b] clix. Hopefully this will open more possibilities for HeroClix.

quixotequest
05/13/2004, 18:37
See but then Halle can get up and say all she's done for colored people in the comix movie industry. WB couldn't have had any input other than collecting a licensing check with this brain-child of a marketing promo. How do WK marketing people come up with this carp? It promotes not the movie nor the HC franchise in any meaningful way. But hey, it moves some old Starters than none of my venues sell anymore. Pppffhhppt

doctorfate77
05/13/2004, 18:41
Where's the Shirtless Thomas Jane "Punisher" Promo LE?!?

shock man x
05/13/2004, 19:13
Well buying the starter isn't as bad as buying a magazine I don't like reading. I'll get two or three. The sculpt ain't bad for what it's based off and BrotherMag says she playable.

Par2ch
05/13/2004, 19:23
Originally posted by Steve Man-Bat
Maybe it's a Catwoman with stealth....
I would like a Catwoman with stealth....

The unique catwoman from Hypertime has the Batman team abilty, so she has stealth

MSU
05/13/2004, 19:38
I am seriously surprised by all the negativity. I saw this and thought, "Cool, a new Catwoman figure!". And if WB is pairing up for a "Movie" Clix, maybe we will see other clix from Movies or TV shows (maybe through Indy???). C'mon people, they are having a cool promo. Its playable and completely new (unlike the Promo Spiderman/Batman and the rookie Hulk). And all I have to do is support my store? Maybe I will buy one, open it, and play a sealed with it (yeah, it costs more, but still....).

Anyways...just surprised by the negativity

CarlosMucha
05/13/2004, 19:42
I will not collect this fig, but I like the Movie Clix idea, why not?


BTW Im sure the muvie is ####.

jedah_s
05/13/2004, 19:45
just a thought here...
remember the mkrealms relics exclusive?
they said if that did well enough, there was the possibility of hcrealms maybe getting exclusive figures.
two things....
#1 if this does well too, we have an even better chance of seeing an hcrealms exlusive figure.
and #2 just be glad *this* wasn't the hcrealms exclusive figure.

CarlosMucha
05/13/2004, 19:45
Oh no... I cant't edit soo soon.

CarlosMucha
05/13/2004, 19:45
Oh no... I can't edit soo soon.

CarlosMucha
05/13/2004, 19:47
.. and now double post, sorry guys.

Remjer
05/13/2004, 19:51
Originally posted by shin-goji
Purchase a DC Hypertime set for a figure that rapes years of DC history? You must be high.

what he said

the idea is very cool and hopfully we'll see it again

just not with that bike helmet wearing thing

ludd_gang
05/13/2004, 20:09
It's kind of cool that a newbie can easily score an LE that a lot of vets probably won't get.

Maybe the next LE will be for the vets who are too nutty to throw their clix points away... :laugh:

mbdeyes
05/13/2004, 20:13
Originally posted by MSU
I am seriously surprised by all the negativity. I saw this and thought, "Cool, a new Catwoman figure!".

I agree that anything that promotes the game can't be that bad. Movie tie ins certainly isn't a bad idea.

The problem is, that this is NOT Catwoman, and the Movie itself was a bad idea.

gryphonred
05/13/2004, 20:51
Originally posted by darius_dax1
WK is tyrying to do something to keep Heroclix fresh and all some of you can do is knock it. Isn't that what these thread are for?

If they keep getting this kind of reception for their promotions then you can kiss the promotions goodbye. If we had that much power, do you think that we would still see more Elektra's.

If you don't like the idea behind this or any other promotion just don't pay any heed to it.Then whats the point of posting it here?

I for one am happy that there will be a new clix, a [b]MOVIE[.b] clix. Hopefully this will open more possibilities for HeroClix. I too would love to see more possibilities for HEROclix, not MOVIEclix.

The Qwardian
05/13/2004, 21:02
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doomtoy
05/13/2004, 21:09
Well, y'know, all you guys who say that the movie is an abomination, well, I can't really argue. I haven't seen the movie. All my sources tell me it's a train wreck waiting to happen, and that the only reason it got this far was because of some producer somewhere who was gonna make a Catwoman movie happen if he had to cripple a carload of children to make it work.

...but I sincerely doubt that WizKids just leaped to their feet and said, "Woohoo! Let's make a new LE based on the new Catwoman movie!"

No, I suspect that Time/Warner said, "Woohoo! Let's create lots of cross-commercial tie-ins with our movie, specifically targeting a variety of demographic groups likely to be interested in this particular product!"

Unfortunately, they couldn't do much at the moment. Shrek seems to be splattered all over all the products at the store at this particular time. Either him or Spongebob Squarepants, anyway.

So they did what they could. They called up WizKids and said, "How much money do we have to throw at you people to get a special HeroClix/Movie Catwoman tie-in?"

...and of such phone calls are legends forged and fortunes made. Did WizKids say, "No, this movie's gonna blow thunderchunks, and we want nothing to do with it?"

No. They did what I would have done. They said, "How many zeroes were on that check, again? You know, we need a lot of money to pay those Chinese grannies who paint these things for us..."

And you know what? I'm gonna get a few. Catwomen, that is, not Chinese grannies.

Do I need the Hypertime starters? No. But I can always use more trade bait. If I pull any uniques, I can trade them, too. Darkseid and the others are still in demand, as is E Batman, ALL the Supermen, and so on. Hell, wouldn't it be funny if I pulled a Unique Catwoman in a starter I only bought to get a Movie Catwoman?

And one of two things will happen:

"Hey, Doomtoy, the Movie Catwoman figure stinks, but I need it to complete my LE set. Got a spare? How much you want for it?"

"Hey Doomtoy, did you get any of those incredibly powerful and undercosted Movie Catwoman figures? I had one, but someone offered me an LE Surfer for it, because the Movie Catwoman's a tourney breaker, and now WizKids is out of the durn things! You say you HAVE one? Would you take a Galactus? I have a spare..."

Either way, I don't think I'll lose. In the meantime, if anyone wants any spare DC maps, laminated, and has anything interesting to trade, give me a whistle sometime after June 4...

DarkCrisis
05/13/2004, 21:17
I'm still curious why WB is pushing this movie so hard. Teh only good reviews of it so far come from publications THEY own. Everyone else, plus the internet buzz says it will be a train wreck. Yet, the insitst on making video games, and dolls, and statues, and a clothing line, and collectable cards, tv spots on tons of shows (like Opra's special), and NOW heroclix. You would think they would cut thier losses, release the film and take what money they can get. Dumping more cash into it just seems foolish.

weezer_10
05/13/2004, 21:32
Originally posted by Kaitouace
I wonder what current power accurately represents overacting?
Outwit, it got her an Oscar for Monster's Ball. :p

darius_dax1
05/13/2004, 21:34
....the Catwoman movie is one of the greatest movies of all time (I know this is a longer stretch than a horny Plasticman but what if????)?

Rocket Ranger
05/13/2004, 21:35
"Founded by 20-year game-industry veteran Jordan Weisman, WizKids is a Seattle-based game developer and publisher dedicated to creating tabletop games driven by imagination. Its Mage Knight, MechWarrior and HeroClix CMGs are among the most successful games on the market today, and the company has sold tens of millions of figures worldwide...."

...until the day Pandora's box was opened when a Wizkids exec. who was frantically racking his brain for a way to sell the truck loads of left-over Hypertime starters before the retirement date accidentally bumped into a Warner Brothers exec. on the subway who was frantically racking his brain for a way to save the new Catwoman movie from tanking before it was even released. Immediately, after a brief conversation, a brilliant business scheme was concocted and a handshake was made. A few months later, the news was released that an EXCLUSIVE Halle Berry Catwoman clix would be available merely by purchasing a Heroclix Hypertime starter. Unfortunately the plan was ill-conceived as Heroclix players, many being life-long comics collectors, just happened to be the MOST adamant group of people alive againt the idea of a Catwoman movie that strayed so far from it's origin. As a result, the movie was not saved from inevitable movie history oblivion, and, a good tabletop game was driven into bankruptcy.



;) ;) ;)
Oh, come on, you know I'm only kidding. It's going to take a lot more than this and the other recent consumer relations fiascos to drive Wizkids into the ground.;) And, yes, 'cause I'm just as much a collector as a player, I'll probably get one too(although I showed an amazing amount of willpower in refusing to buy any Indyclix) but I'll wait to see "Cat Berry" goes for on the secondary market. There's no way I'm buying another starter of practically outdated clix for an "exclusive" that's a blatent marketing ploy. At least I only had to drive 2000 miles and spend @$200 to get a Galactus.;) :p

"REV Catwoman is still one of my favorite sculpts."

Hey, Thugit, I agree with you on the r/e/v being a great sculpt, but I thought the unique was even better. The one nice thing about this new Catwoman will be being able to field both of them on the table at the same time and it kind of making sense...:rolleyes: ...ok, maybe not. But, if she's really playable, I'm sure I'll use her on some teams.

skeevo666
05/13/2004, 21:37
Originally posted by weezer_10
Outwit, it got her an Oscar for Monster's Ball. :p


Only after Billy Bob Thornton perplexed up her damage :eek:




(I'd like ta do some of that kind of "perplexing" myself) :laugh:

dj_sha
05/13/2004, 21:39
Longer stretch then a horny Plastic Man....






That would be hard to do!

spidernate
05/13/2004, 21:41
As sickened as I am with the new catwoman movie and this promotion, I think it could open up some fun possiblities for heroclix. If this LE is named Halle Berry and not catwoman, it could open the door for a Tobey Maguire, Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, or a Ben Affleck clix.

And who wouldn't want a Ben Affleck LE?

skeevo666
05/13/2004, 21:42
Originally posted by spidernate
And who wouldn't want a Ben Affleck LE?


umm, Matt Damon?

dj_sha
05/13/2004, 21:42
Originally posted by gryphonred
If we had that much power, do you think that we would still see more Elektra's.




Take a look at the list of the next set. Do you see an Elektra there?

darius_dax1
05/13/2004, 21:43
Originally posted by spidernate


And who wouldn't want a Ben Affleck LE? J-Lo???

mbdeyes
05/13/2004, 22:10
Originally posted by spidernate
And who wouldn't want a Ben Affleck LE?

Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman alright.... but Halle and Ben? I'd rather have a Jay and Silent Bob big fig!!!






(which means I wouldn't)

MSU
05/13/2004, 22:48
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by spidernate


And who wouldn't want a Ben Affleck LE?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

J-Lo???

This was one of the funniest things I have read all night long!

Cell
05/13/2004, 22:54
Not interested. And I Like Catwoman, but as a DC Fanboy this Catwoman movie is pretty bad, i could care less how playable she is... Unless shes abusively playable...

Glen Quagmire
05/13/2004, 23:09
Shock Man said: Well buying the starter isn't as bad as buying a magazine I don't like reading.

I gotta agree. No matter how cool the magazine tie-ins have been, I've just never seen the point of buying Inquest or whatever just to be able to buy a figure.

SCORPDLM
05/13/2004, 23:12
I'm gonna play her at throw away tournaments just so I can see her die for making that abomination of a movie!

Hellboy
05/14/2004, 00:18
once again the movie industry exceeds my imagination. That looks way more lame than I imagined it would be. and of course we'll have to buy things we don't need to get our hands on that lame promotion for what I'm sure we all know will be a ridiculously stupid movie.

nonplussed.

Legion-of-Doom
05/14/2004, 00:58
Woo Hoo ! Halle Berry Catwoman figure ! Hey, WK, this is such a good idea, hey, next, if I buy your ####py map set can I get a free mail in Batman with nipples from Batman: Forever ???

Or how about a musclebound, badly acted Mr Freeze ? God, why is it DC hasnt yet learned to not let Hollywood butcher their characters.

This figure sucks, this movie is gonna ####, and I want nothing to do with either.

Phantom
05/14/2004, 02:51
Originally posted by darius_dax1
WK is tyrying to do something to keep HeroClix fresh and all some of you can do is knock it. If they keep getting this kind of reception for their promotions then you can kiss the promotions goodbye. If you don't like the idea behind this or any other promotion just don't pay any heed to it. I for one am happy that there will be a new clix, a [b]MOVIE[.b] clix. Hopefully this will open more possibilities for HeroClix. The problem isn't that it's a movie clix. Remember, they did the same for the Hulk last year. This isn't exactly new.

The problem is which movie they're doing a clix for. In this case, it's Catwoman. By all reports, this movie is going to redefine the standards for big budget flop. The studio already reportedly yanked the trailer off the internet and has been issuing "Cease & Desist" orders to any web sites that still carry it, because they're trying to do damage control on the massive amounts of bad press and outright mockery that this movie's been created.

Not to mention that this is Halle Berry. The same woman who was on BET a few years ago complaining about how she had just finished this role in a "comic book movie" (X-Men) and she was upset that she was reduced to taking that part because of the lack of roles for black actresses in Hollywood.

Again, the bile here isn't about the figure. It's about the movie and the actress that the figure is based on.

darkkrisp
05/14/2004, 03:06
I wish this would have been a magazine tie in. I have no problem buying a cheap magazine and spending another $5 for a figure. Now I have to spend what is a starter anyhow about $15+? I have all the dc figs except Bizarro, Mordru, KC Supes, KC Wonderwoman, Nubia, & Ultra Humanite. Now I need to buy a starter set with stuff I got years ago to get a fig? If they would have let you use clix points for those die hard few of us who still have them as a option instead of buying a starter would have been nice.
If they let you use boosters that would of been alot better since I could buy some and possibly pull the uniques I need. I do not see what the big deal is anyhow. If you hate the fig and Halle Berry no one is forcing you to buy a starter to get it. Everyone that complained about not getting other figs first before this one how much of an outcry do you think we would have heard if they would have offered a wanted fig instead? It would of been alot! I have to buy old starters to get superboy/redone flash or whatever that is so unfare I hate wizkids.
If they really are trying to get new people intrested in heroclix this would have been offered at the theatre with a ticket purchase or given away with a special popocorn soda pack at the snack bar. Halle Berry as catwoman is not the way to go in getting new people intrested in going to a store to get heroclix. Now we are getting a fig that would never ever be considered for play. If this works out hopefully it will lead to others. I would take a Jennifer Garne Elektra anyday. Maybe we might see Rebbeca Mystique, cooler looking toad, and the Movie X-Men? How great would that be?

skyounkin
05/14/2004, 04:01
Originally posted by darkkrisp
If they would have let you use clix points for those die hard few of us who still have them as a option instead of buying a starter would have been nice.


I second that idea, ah, the clix points that went to waste......

BUT, I'll get her, she probably be the last new DC clix this year...............................sigh:sleep:

spider_ham
05/14/2004, 04:27
Does the fig come with a car and generic "Hit and Run" Bystandard token? ;) Catwoman and DC have been disgraced by another WB (Why Bother) film travesty. I like the sculpt, however. Gotta give WK props for hiring quality artists. :) Keep up the good wurk!

Now, a LE Chris Reeve Superman would truly float my boat...

grey_zealot
05/14/2004, 06:27
Originally posted by SITHSPAWN
I'd more interested in the fig if it was Halle Berry from Monsters Ball:squareeye


Naaah,... The Halle Berry from SWORDFISH. (Undercover topless agent. :grin: )


I'll get the promo LE just because I'm an addict.


But, *sigh* the movie.

I was pumped when it was announced, and heard Halle was going to be Catwoman.

I was "deflated" when I saw the costume.

I mean, I couldn't stand the Batman franchise once Shumaker took over and put nipplies on the Bat-costume; once I saw the costume they put Ms. Berry in, I knew they got a director and/or producer that was just cashing in to make what they thought was a comic book movie (but having absolutely no idea what makes a good one, and no respect for the source material).

the itsy bit
05/14/2004, 06:49
Originally posted by theSHOWDOWN
Warner Brothers would have been smart to give out Catwoman at the door to the theater with a little information in the package a la rookie Hulks.

They would have needed alot more figs, but it would A) boost ticket sales to the movie from clix fans who detest the disfiguration of a great comic character, and B) make many, many more people aware of Heroclix. I don't know how new people will get into the game when it's existing players buying starters.



well just give out a ticket extra with the theather which is redeembale for a Catwoman LE when you buy a starter.

this will:
A) still cost you as much figs as it does now (because most people will trhow it away ?).
B) let people now that sucha game (you know Heroclix excists !!)
C) will sell more tickets too the movie !!
D) then you could still give the DC-players a Catwoman LE with the purchase of a starter.

you do NOT get new players by advertising on a player-fanbased site or at the place where HC gets sold already...

you DO get new players IF you advertise it to the public (commercial before the new Spiderman,X-men, etc movies !!) LE with your ticket from the theather.

LOTR had such a an extra card with the movie ticket and now they have 10 extra players (at our venue alone) because of it.

coldfuzion
05/14/2004, 06:58
Wow! Now I can have my own plastic replica of Halle Berry! Which should be very much like watching her act!

doctorfate77
05/14/2004, 07:05
Originally posted by Cell
... Unless shes abusively playable...

omg..... get a room.

anyhoo, of all of us who are complaining, how many of us are NOT going to get HalleClix?

*everyone looks around, no one raises their hand*

sure i'll bite. just as i did when i flew to LA to buy a 75 dollar dust collector. and i'll fall in line again when the next major movie buys our attendance by baiting us with plastic crack...

"Harry will attempt to break away, and Professor Snape will perplex his damage to 3 and attempt to PB Superman. Second roll pending with Professor Trelawney's PC..."

:laugh:


BTW,
is the HalleClix figure attached to Hypertime or Unleashed?

the itsy bit
05/14/2004, 07:11
Originally posted by BrotherMagneto
No, it's a clix, it's just not on its base.

my apoligies for the misunderstanding.

ReZourceman
05/14/2004, 07:15
I'm stuck between principles.


its heroclix so i have to get it on principle...

...its catwoman...... on principle.




i dont hink i want it though, i just cant justify owning it.

warden
05/14/2004, 07:35
The Hypertime Catwomen were cool. The Cosmic Justice Catgirl was way cool. This figure doesn't look cool though and I don't expect to be jumping through hoops to get it.

Anyway, what puzzles me is that figure doesn't seem to have a tail whereas Halle Berry does. Is this like Captain America's pants?

Andrew

Funky Jett
05/14/2004, 08:04
If her figure doesn't have a tail, then I won't get it!!!

:confused: :grin: :p :laugh:

BlueAndorian
05/14/2004, 10:23
would you believe I just recycled all my old booster/starter boxes last week :(

Glen Quagmire
05/14/2004, 10:52
itsy said: you do NOT get new players by advertising on a player-fanbased site or at the place where HC gets sold already...

Sure you do. I'm a direct result of the free Hulk giveaway on FCBD last year, which I got at a comic shop.

gryphonred
05/14/2004, 10:57
Originally posted by dj_sha
Take a look at the list of the next set. Do you see an Elektra there?

Yes! The redone version is coming in Universe. I haven't seen any thing that said she isn't in Ultimates.

El Poolman
05/14/2004, 10:58
Well at least I know somehing.
If someone puts that... err... "thing" against me in a battlefield, I won't be able to beat her, just for the laughter it causes me to think that some sad player bough a Starter to get it!!!.

I bet the movie will be worst than "Batman & Robin", yup, the one with Allnuld.

DareDevil-fan
05/14/2004, 11:30
I'll be buying a starter so I can get 1 of her. I do hope I get an unique in there so I can use it as trade stock, at least I'll get an extra map. I would rather they just offer her like all the other mail away LEs.

I'm curious how she will stack up with the other 5 catwoman figures; R,E,V,U,LE. I personally think the LE Selina Kyle is the best one. I do wonder how there going to rate her. Is someone at wizkids going to watch the movie first and decide what abilities she'll have? She does look good and if I had enough money I probably would buy 2 starters so I could get 2 of her.

The best part of when her promo starts is that the next day the store where I buy my clix at is having a huge sale. So all clixs will be 30% off regular price. It'll be easier to pay $14 for a starter then $20.

Kaitouace
05/14/2004, 11:36
I will admit the idea is sound, but everyone knows just how bad that Catwoman movie will be. However I WOULD like this to become something of a semi-standard. Not necessarily with movies (although a new Wesley Snipes Blade would be REAL nice) but anything. I'd be willing to throw some cash out for magazines, boosters, whatever for some different looking clix for LEs. As opposed to stuff like "transparent Green Lantern" or "gold foil Shazam!"

Stuff I can think of I'd like to see:

Wesley Snipes Blade
Michelle Pfieffer Catwoman (if they HAD to use a movie one)
Adam West Batman (that BEGS to be made with a full dial of Outwit)
Batman Beyond (Terry McGuinness)
Original Superfriends clix (Not remakes of the old characters but the other guys like Samurai, El Dorado, and Apache Chief)

I like this idea actually. I just hope they roll with it so we can get some more LEs with some actual different sculpts.

Yong
05/14/2004, 11:43
this is just plain stupid. i'm sure as hell not buying a starter for this and there's no way i have the box from when i bought this starter so long ago. if wizkids wanted to clear out their hypertime inventory, i would have much rather seen this as an offer for a LE Darkseid or something... this is from what looks to be a horrible movie ( w/ no nudity no doubt :( )

Yong
05/14/2004, 11:47
wow, i was certain "hell" woulda been filtered out. go figure. apologies if i offend.

Hatut Zeraze
05/14/2004, 11:51
Originally posted by gryphonred
I haven't seen any thing that said she isn't in Ultimates.

Nearly all the Ultimates set has been confimed and there's no Elektra to be seen. Several posters on Boneyard's rumored/confirmed thread have mentioned reading an interview or something confirming that Elektra will not be in Ultimates or in the next (non-Universe) Marvel set.


...and, concerning Catwoman...

I have to take issue with one of the reasons people seem to be mad about this clix. Some of the critics are actually mad because this movie "rapes" years of comic continuity. I'm sure every one of these loyal fanboys never bought a clix based on an alternate universe character. Superman, Son of Darkseid, also runs VERY contrary to regular continuity, but it's OK because its an Elseworlds story. That's all the movie is, an Elseworlds tale. Whether the movie is good or bad, it won't change Selina Kyle's history in the comics, the medium we all know and love. Please relax about the continuity change. Yes, that might make it a bad movie, but don't try to pretend you are offended by the idea of an Elseworlds clix.

(side note: using the word "rape" in reference to comic book continuity changes suggests that some people are taking their comic books WAAAAAYYY too seriously.)

shin-goji
05/14/2004, 12:00
You're posting to a fanboy catering forum. I think the term used in reference to comics is relevant. I've seen too many good characters and storylines sodomized by terrible writers and artists. I still maintain that the Scarlet Spider brutalized Spider Man continuity.

shin-goji
05/14/2004, 12:06
Originally posted by shock man x
Well buying the starter isn't as bad as buying a magazine I don't like reading. I'll get two or three. The sculpt ain't bad for what it's based off and BrotherMag says she playable.

A Vampire Lackey is playable too.

xxgoonboyxx
05/14/2004, 12:10
Originally posted by Ed0825
Yeah, we probably got to buy the HT Starter and also pay $5 for shipping and handling or something. You know I wish I still had the box for the HT starter around. All someone would have to do is use that UPC code, download a coupon, get a receipt from a store that doesn't itemize items which is most comic or hobby stores and buy another item in the $15-20 range and say that you actually bought the starter intstead. I am not saying anyone should actually do this or that I would, but you know it will probably happen.

I like the movie tie in idea, I just hate giving this particular stinker of a movie a tie in. We could have at least had one for Spidey in his movie costume.


I really hope I don't do what you just said :-P........

xxgoonboyxx
05/14/2004, 12:18
Originally posted by Glen Quagmire
I gotta agree. No matter how cool the magazine tie-ins have been, I've just never seen the point of buying Inquest or whatever just to be able to buy a figure.



You mean you don't go to the store and rip out the page?

mbdeyes
05/14/2004, 12:43
Originally posted by spider_ham

Now, a LE Chris Reeve Superman would truly float my boat...

How about a Superman that doesn't fly, has HSS and who wears lots of plaid? I'm quite serious.... of course I'm refering to Tom whatever-his-name is from Smallville.... I would go for that much faster than this one.

Also, there is no source material to ruin. There is no background or precidence for this new Catwoman character. They can only ruin the name, reputation, etc. of a great older character of the same name, not the continuity or history....

This should not be considered a DC clix. It is a WB clix that has nothing to do with any DC books (except of course the movie adaptation).

Hack-n-slash
05/14/2004, 12:57
shin-goji wrote:
[QUOTE[You're posting to a fanboy catering forum. I think the term used in reference to comics is relevant. I've seen too many good characters and storylines sodomized by terrible writers and artists. I still maintain that the Scarlet Spider brutalized Spider Man continuity.[/QUOTE]

Which was the Scarlet Spider: writer, or artist? :p

Dr. Morbius
05/14/2004, 13:44
Halle Berry is the most retarded casting ever! The costume is even dumber!! Surplus it's DC....thanks but I'll happily pass.

Hope they don't come up with stupid movie-costume versions of Marvel characters :rolleyes:

Although....a movie Green Goblin would still be 10000 times better than Ultimate Greeny :cross-eye

Yong
05/14/2004, 13:57
Originally posted by xxgoonboyxx
You mean you don't go to the store and rip out the page?

that anyone would do such a thing is appalling... um yeah... that's right... APPALLING!

<_<
>_>
<_<
*ahem*
*runs away*

freakazoid_x
05/14/2004, 14:04
I'll get the figure but I won't bother with the movie. Besides, having a few extra HT figures around couldn't hurt, and a potentially tradable U from the starter would rock.

KilljoyBob
05/14/2004, 14:42
http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=858 (Yep, it sucks!)

KilljoyBob
05/14/2004, 14:44
Oops, screwed that up, didn't I?

Yep, it sucks! (http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=858)

dj_sha
05/14/2004, 15:40
Originally posted by gryphonred
Yes! The redone version is coming in Universe. I haven't seen any thing that said she isn't in Ultimates.



I meant Ultimates, the next REAL Marvel set with brand new figures.

Upright
05/14/2004, 15:47
Seems strange that no one seems bothered that they have to buy a new Starter set... especially because many of us had collected all those freakin' Proofs of Purchases.

Not good customer interaction, WizKids. Not good at all.

Glen Quagmire
05/14/2004, 18:40
You mean you don't go to the store and rip out the page?

Nah, man. I'm too nervous to even rip open the plastic if it's sealed. :noid: It's like eating grapes at the supermarket.

darius_dax1
05/14/2004, 19:58
Originally posted by Upright
Seems strange that no one seems bothered that they have to buy a new Starter set... especially because many of us had collected all those freakin' Proofs of Purchases.

Not good customer interaction, WizKids. Not good at all. I am not bothered by it. It will be eventual trade bait and perhaps I will get the one figure I need for a complete HT set. More maps, dice, and tokens always help too.

impulse1121
05/14/2004, 20:02
HeroClix® collectable miniatures games (CMGs), is proud to announce a Limited Edition figure of the Catwoman character from the upcoming Warner Bros. film.


its just the darn figure........good lord, Im torn between the crazyness of this promo, the ####piness of the costume, and my need to have eveything. arrrrrgh

shock man x
05/14/2004, 20:18
No, It's a full clix (figure, base, and stats). It is also mentioned that she is "very playable" :ermm:

turdburglar47
05/14/2004, 20:53
This movie looks like butt.

Too late to cater to the nerds now, WB.

Although the new Batman does sound pretty interesting. Tell you what - you make THAT movie good, we'll go see it enough times to bail you out of this Catwoman mess.

impulse1121
05/14/2004, 22:03
No, It's a full clix (figure, base, and stats). It is also mentioned that she is "very playable"

um........where??? dont get me wrong that would be better! but sinse your post ive read through the description twice and I cant find where it says or even indicates that...please show me so i can show my friends this later.

impulse1121
05/14/2004, 22:11
if you read the description of the movie from the magazine previews she sounds like her powers are close to those of the catwomens daughter on birds of prey the tv series, and in my opinion they were far fetched and made the show ####tackuler!

it would make an interesting heroclick though:) ;) ;)

impulse1121
05/14/2004, 22:12
catwoman..not catwomen...sorry

Pipedream
05/14/2004, 22:25
Post #67 by BrotherMagneto (who works for Wizkids) was were the fact that it has playable stats comes from.

impulse1121
05/14/2004, 22:32
sweet thanks:)

CapSpalding
05/14/2004, 22:43
Maybe I'm just being cynical, but saying "it is very playable" is probably a better marketing move then saying "it makes Brother Blood look like KC Bloody Superman by comparison."

mbdeyes
05/15/2004, 01:10
I won't say it's playable just on BroMag's word... I'll have to see it first, of course.

But the main point is that it does confirm that this is indeed a clix and not just a REALLY tiny sculpt.

boneyard
05/15/2004, 12:35
Hmmm.

This is interesting and good and disappointing from several angles.

1) Must buy starter after June 4th. While buying a starter at a sale (like one poster mentioned) is not a bad idea, I personally balk at the idea of having to buy one more starter. I have more than enough maps, tokens and dice to choke a horse (bought two Hypertime starters myself) and while I admire the attempt to clean up stock, I, as a long-time clix buyer feel a little cheated at not being able to use my old Clixpoints (not that I have them anymore, I chucked out over 400 of the suckers out when Wizkids formally announced the promotion was dead!) This deal reminds me of several loathed Hasbro promotions at the height of the re-launched Star Wars action figure line. Great move for Wizkids, not great for the long-time clixers.

2) Buy a starter at a convention. No offense Wizkids, but if you are going to keep charging top end retail prices at conventions, then forget about it. I can't bring myself to pay over $20 for the same thing I bought twice two years ago. I've already completed my Hypertime set long ago, so the single LE is little motivation...

3) Which brings us to the character - Nice sculpt. I'm sure the stats will be playable - but YEA GODS!! It's like cruel fate mocking me. I know it's a DC character, but it really isn't. The movie has no ties to the comic property The costume is horrible, the script is horrible, this is going to be the biggest bomb of the summer.

From a Wizkids perspective, it's win-win. Congrats to Wizkids for putting together such a good tie-in promotion to a high profile movie (and a tie-in that does make sense for once!) but why THIS movie? Ugh.

At least they're not making us send in a movie ticket stub. That would mean actually having to see the film...

4) If this promo goes well, and I hope, for Wizkid's sake, it does, then we are going to see more movie characters creeping into Heroclix.

And that's too bad.

To be honest, I really LIKED that the license was for comic versions only. Now that the idea has been "cracked" I can very easily see the flood gates opening up. With all of the Marvel related movies coming out in the next few years, you can kiss goodbye any hope of seeing comic versions of characters like... original Green Goblin, Electro, Rhino - as those slots are filled by movies versions of their counterparts (oh wait, that already happened with Ulimate versions!)

5) In reference to #4, you can also kiss goodbye the obscure comic characters many of us love. Why have the comic Superboy when you can have Tom Welling Superboy? Why have the comic Namor, when you can have the movie Namor? Why have Stilt-Man when you can have the movie Elektra? You get the point. I hope this isn't the case, but the writing seems to be on the wall...

Of course this is all a lot of conjecture on my behalf, but I just hope Wizkids keeps in mind what has made them successful these past few years (the comic/gaming fans) as they move ahead to play with the big boys...

(Now I must go, back hurts...)

grey_zealot
05/15/2004, 14:18
Originally posted by boneyard
Hmmm.

This is interesting and good and disappointing from several angles.

1) Must buy starter after June 4th. While buying a starter at a sale (like one poster mentioned) is not a bad idea, I personally balk at the idea of having to buy one more starter. I have more than enough maps, tokens and dice to choke a horse (bought two Hypertime starters myself) and while I admire the attempt to clean up stock, I, as a long-time clix buyer feel a little cheated at not being able to use my old Clixpoints (not that I have them anymore, I chucked out over 400 of the suckers out when Wizkids formally announced the promotion was dead!) This deal reminds me of several loathed Hasbro promotions at the height of the re-launched Star Wars action figure line. Great move for Wizkids, not great for the long-time clixers.

2) Buy a starter at a convention. No offense Wizkids, but if you are going to keep charging top end retail prices at conventions, then forget about it. I can't bring myself to pay over $20 for the same thing I bought twice two years ago. I've already completed my Hypertime set long ago, so the single LE is little motivation...

3) Which brings us to the character - Nice sculpt. I'm sure the stats will be playable - but YEA GODS!! It's like cruel fate mocking me. I know it's a DC character, but it really isn't. The movie has no ties to the comic property The costume is horrible, the script is horrible, this is going to be the biggest bomb of the summer.

From a Wizkids perspective, it's win-win. Congrats to Wizkids for putting together such a good tie-in promotion to a high profile movie (and a tie-in that does make sense for once!) but why THIS movie? Ugh.

At least they're not making us send in a movie ticket stub. That would mean actually having to see the film...

4) If this promo goes well, and I hope, for Wizkid's sake, it does, then we are going to see more movie characters creeping into Heroclix.

And that's too bad.

To be honest, I really LIKED that the license was for comic versions only. Now that the idea has been "cracked" I can very easily see the flood gates opening up. With all of the Marvel related movies coming out in the next few years, you can kiss goodbye any hope of seeing comic versions of characters like... original Green Goblin, Electro, Rhino - as those slots are filled by movies versions of their counterparts (oh wait, that already happened with Ulimate versions!)

5) In reference to #4, you can also kiss goodbye the obscure comic characters many of us love. Why have the comic Superboy when you can have Tom Welling Superboy? Why have the comic Namor, when you can have the movie Namor? Why have Stilt-Man when you can have the movie Elektra? You get the point. I hope this isn't the case, but the writing seems to be on the wall...

Of course this is all a lot of conjecture on my behalf, but I just hope Wizkids keeps in mind what has made them successful these past few years (the comic/gaming fans) as they move ahead to play with the big boys...

(Now I must go, back hurts...)


I loved this mini-rant so much, I copied it into Word, printed it out and taped to my wall.

Ya know I've actually wanted to see some "movie version" clix, but, boneyard has scared the #### out of me that if I finally got to see the movie version of Green Goblin I want to see I'll never see a Ditko-style GG that I've also wanted to see.

And that remark about "At least they're not making us send in a movie ticket stub. That would mean actually having to see the film..." D'oh! They probably are thinking "Hey, that could actually work!" and are calling Hollywood execs right now.

BackInAction
05/15/2004, 17:02
Argh...CATWOMAN. Why????

The movie looks bad, they conpletely messed with the whole continuity of the character. Why on Earth would anyone after seeing the movie want to play a Clix based on the same character without bringing back Horrifying Nightmares that haunt there every waking hour??

hair10
05/15/2004, 17:11
Originally posted by grey_zealot
And that remark about "At least they're not making us send in a movie ticket stub. That would mean actually having to see the film..." D'oh! They probably are thinking "Hey, that could actually work!" and are calling Hollywood execs right now.
Well, look at it this way....

You could buy the ticket but never actually go in to see the movie. A $7.50 ticket stub is cheaper than a $20 starter! :p

Thunderbolts
05/15/2004, 20:26
Originally posted by boneyard
Why have Stilt-Man when you can have the movie Elektra?

On stilts, no less!

One does wonder though.... will her (Catwoman, not Elektra!) eBay value be less than $20? :P

tb - not really interested in this promo, I bought 6 Hypertime starters already (in a closing down 80% off sale, but hey, I still bought them)

mbdeyes
05/16/2004, 20:08
Wow. Once again Boneyard condenses and clarifies my thoughts, then expands them, continuing with his own line of reason which completely blows mine away, and encapsulates the issue perfectly....

Bloodsword
05/18/2004, 12:25
I have just seen the TV spot for this Catwoman movie and all I can say is "WHO THEY HELL THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?!" The trailer looks cheesey and just plain bad.
The costume looks like carp, and the sceene where she is in the club and the bartender hands her a glass and says "Cream, Straight up just how you like it" Is really really bad.
After the last Batman fiasco you think WB and DC would be a bit more careful with their characters. This movie may very well be the end of Halle Berry's career.

zeppelined
05/18/2004, 12:32
I saw the trailer commercial for this movie yesterday. It really, honestly looks like the biggest steaming pile of turd I've ever seen in my life. My reactions while watching the commercial were some kind of mix between laughing hysterically and gasping in disbelief that anything could look so utterly abysmal. Picture the Joker having an asthma attack.

Oh, and I have less than zero desire for this lame LE. Especially since it's such a transparent attempt to unload old backstock that all of us already have. I know companies are in it to make money, but why do I have to feel like Wizkids' hand is in my pocket, scrounging around for more, every time I think about this game these days?

Spiderhulk
06/04/2004, 15:11
Originally posted by Ghost_Rider_92
I'd also like to add that I hope she has LOTS of smoke cloud, cause you know, everyone should have it.


/miffed that Ghost Rider has Smoke cloud instead of some useful power :(


Ghost Rider should have incapacitate and or exploit weakness to represent his pennance stare

Puuka
06/04/2004, 15:53
Where is the coupon for this?

qballjon1
06/22/2004, 04:44
so is going to be comparable to the catwoman le that is already out?

Gumpold
10/01/2004, 07:19
I was in a store this week that had some DC Premier Starters, so I pick one up so I could get this figure. The site says you need
A completed coupon
The UPC bar code from the box
Dated receipt with proof of purchase
Payment or method of payment

I see the UPC Bar Code, but I don't see a seperate "proof of purchase".

Can anyone help me out in letting me know where to find what I need? Thanks.

hair10
10/01/2004, 08:21
Originally posted by Gumpold
I was in a store this week that had some DC Premier Starters, so I pick one up so I could get this figure. The site says you need
A completed coupon
The UPC bar code from the box
Dated receipt with proof of purchase
Payment or method of payment

I see the UPC Bar Code, but I don't see a seperate "proof of purchase".

Can anyone help me out in letting me know where to find what I need? Thanks.
The "dated receipt with proof of purchase" just means that the receipt needs to show the purchase on it is all. Even then, it doesn't have to specifically say "Heroclix Starter Set" or anything. My shop receipts just state "nonsport" for all HC purchases. I sent it in and it was fine. If you bought the starter from the store and send in the receipt, you're covered. :)

Azrael666
10/13/2004, 20:14
so im guessing that if they do a promo for the elektra movie your all going to hate that too? i love the halle promo, shes been a lifesaver for my batman team a couple times, shes even killed Ult hulk and thor in the same game (my that day will be remembered) although alot of these posts were made a while ago, so some of you may have changed your minds, but i have to ask, if you dont want anything to do with the fig, why waste your energy typing 300 words about how bad you think it sucks? just dont buy that set and kill off the ones people use against you quick....that is if they dont get alot of 5s and 6s....yay super senses!

turdburglar47
10/13/2004, 20:16
Because Halle Berry Catwoman is an affront to comic fans in general.

Jennifer Garner Elektra stands a chance of being a cool movie.