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DTM
05/14/2004, 19:04
Well, the Tournament Of Champions, Comics Universe, has been closed, but now a new Universe, filled with loads of characters to discuss and debate, has opened.

This starts the Tournament Of Champions, Movie Universe, the Lightweight Division. Here, characters like James Bond, Indiana Jones and Leon the Professional battle it out amongst themselves to see who is worthy, brave, smart and strong enough to take the title Grand Champion of the Light Weight Movie Universe Division.

For the most part the rules here will be the same as all of my other battles and tournaments. Each character must fight their opponent, to the Death or KO, whichever is preferred. Since it is only a one on one battle, and not a team brawl, and were only in the Light Weight Division, the arena will be approximately 1 mile wide (same as the LW TOC for the Comics Universe)

Now while there will be no time to plan this time out, were going to do something alittle different at the start of each battle here. Each of the characters will have their opponent’s movies directly and instantaneously uploaded into their brains before each fight. (ala The Matrix) This will allow each character to know what the other can do, how they act, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. (This also eliminates any character around before the birth of guns and explosives being slaughters by such characters, due to not knowing what the heck that little metal object in Han Solos or Ashs hands is.)

Another change is this, all the combatants will start 1 mile apart, each at the opposite ends of their environment, unable to see the other combatant at the battles start.

REMEMBER, these characters should be judged and voted on ONLY due to what they’ve done in the MOVIES. Any comic books, TV shows, cartoons, anything else regarding these characters DOES NOT MATTER, and SHOULD NOT be used to defend such character.

And Please, try to vote on what the characters can and cant do, over someone from your favorite movie. Thanks all.

I believe everything else is normal TOC rules and regulations.

So without further adieu, allow me to present your first battle in a BRAND NEW type of Tournament Of Champions:


ASH (EVIL DEAD SERIES)


VS.


CLONED RIPLEY (ALIEN RESSURECTION)


As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.

Randomly Chosen Area:


Badlands – Lots of sand, some rock formations, scrub brush, small boulders, etc.


Thanks all, and enjoy.

And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.


MOVIE TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS


ROUND 1

Ash vs. Cloned Ripley: ??????

Q99
05/14/2004, 19:08
No offense to Riply, but Ash gets my vote.

He's the more clever, they both have guns, I actually think Ash is the better shot (he tends to hit what he shoots, and he runs and uses cover more than Riply), plus for hand to hand he has a chainsaw (perhaps not a good idea with acid-blood riply... but she's lose first) or the iron hand. Riply does have more firepower, but doesn't use cover as much and general focused more on immediate survival, while Ash lays and uses traps.

Riply's a survivor, but Ash has good offense (in mindset) as well, and no-one survives better than Ash.

DTM
05/14/2004, 19:13
I dont recall Cloned Ripley having any weapons at all really, just her slightly superhuman abilities and senses.

Q99
05/14/2004, 19:17
I think she had a gun. Dhe hung out with all those guys who did most of the movie.

Maniac_nmt
05/14/2004, 19:18
Ash, and boy howdy does he mess her up bad.

"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
BANG!

DTM
05/14/2004, 19:23
I could see Ash taking it, since he does fight such superhuman demons all the time, BUT Ripley is NO DOPE (as most of Ashs demons are), She is a hunter in this form, and with slightly superhuman abilities and a weaker form of acid blood, along with her cunning intellect, I could see her taking it as well.

BAKID
05/14/2004, 19:34
What equipment is Ripley gonna have on her? That seems to be the crux of the match? Ash will have a chainsaw and a shotgun. That means he needs to get close to her/ambush her. If she has a pistol, its pretty even, but if she has one of those bad mamma jamma autofire guns from the future, Ash is in trouble unless he can ambush her (which is possible, but not more than 50% of the time).

Poring
05/14/2004, 20:03
to be honest i know very little about the 2 charachters. may i please know their backgrounds/skills/abilities?

ninja_pie_joe
05/14/2004, 20:44
ASH
THIS IS MY BOOM STICK
ha ha ha

Nighthawk
05/14/2004, 20:44
I gotta vote Ash, but he will be messedup after chainsawing Ripley and getting acid blooded.

Grinner
05/14/2004, 20:49
Originally posted by DTM
I dont recall Cloned Ripley having any weapons at all really, just her slightly superhuman abilities and senses.

Niether do I, which is why I give a marginal win to Ash. She's going to be shot up by the time it closes to HtH. While I'll give her the edge in strength and skill, I think between already being hurt and the chainsaw she'll lose. Not all the time, but often enough that I'm voting for Ash.

Ash on to round 2.

VandalSavage
05/14/2004, 21:03
I vote....Ash!!

Mr. Savage

chase_jyd
05/14/2004, 21:19
Ash, narrowly.

Nightmare555
05/14/2004, 21:24
In all realness of the situation I think mighty mouse would come along and tear a slug sized whole through both of them just by flying through them. Or either the crazy hobo monster that lives in a can in sesame street would lure them into his can and eat them alive. And you say what about the chain saw and the acid blood well oscar is impervious to all. He told me so himself.

DTM
05/14/2004, 21:31
UH....ok.

Im going against the grain here and saying Clone Ripley, and I am a HUGE fan of Ash and the Evil Dead series.

Ash is cool, but the creatures he fights and defeats are NOTHING compared to the Aliens we all know and love. This Ripley has superhuman abilities, as well as all of the cunning and intellect her character had in the first 3 Alien films, enough to let her live throughout them all.

Boomstick aside, Ripley I feel can dodge Ashs shotgun enough to get close to him, and with her superior strength, agility and endurance, she will have little trouble snapping his neck. Besides, Ashs shotgun and chainsaw routinely broke down, which would allow her even more time to break him.

I say (and I may be alone) Clone Ripley for the win.

Also, I dont think this Ripley really carried a gun very much at all in this form, relying on her superior abilities, animial senses and brains to protect her.

Dalandow
05/14/2004, 21:46
Ripley

Perfectstorm
05/14/2004, 21:49
If chins could kill...and they do!

Ash takes her head off while saying a snappy catchphase. Ripley is a formitable oppoent, but I think she will get hit with a couple pellets of a shotgun. Ash notices the acid blood, and then proceeds to run away while shooting and hiding behind rocks. one shotguns blast, even half of it, and she will fall dead. I dont think ash will be afraid to use the chainsaw. He has been shown as able to take pain if it means a chance at surviving (the reason he has a chainsaw/guantlet hand in the first place, anyone?)

Ripley is good, but is outclassed by the B actor

Gentlegamer
05/14/2004, 23:11
Ash

"Groovy"

Grinner
05/14/2004, 23:18
Originally posted by DTM
I say (and I may be alone) Clone Ripley for the win.

I certainly can't fault you there, and several of us voting for Ash are of the 51/49 variety. I can very easily see Ripley taking it. I just think that Ash's mad luck holds out for a good shot or two, which gives him enough of an edge to just barely get the win. But I don't see the fight itself being anywhere near as one-sided as the voting so far.

oogie56
05/14/2004, 23:23
Gotta go with Ash on this one. The man has fought the dead after all.

supermangl1
05/14/2004, 23:59
Grinner said:
I certainly can't fault you there, and several of us voting for Ash are of the 51/49 variety. I can very easily see Ripley taking it. I just think that Ash's mad luck holds out for a good shot or two, which gives him enough of an edge to just barely get the win. But I don't see the fight itself being anywhere near as one-sided as the voting so far.
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Yup I agree with this. Cloned Ripley is much tougher then people are giving her credit for here. BUT I still see Ash getting the 51/49 victory here. It's close and I can see Ripley tearing his chainsaw off his arm and turning it on Ash. I gotta give me vote to Ash though, "Hail to the king, baby!"

my vote = Ash

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2004, 00:15
Ripley will never dodge ash's boomstick, and take a facefull or three before getting anywhere near him. Then the chainsaw wielding maniac will carve her up, acid blood or no acid blood.

The guy chopped up his own girl friend after she got possessed (without flinching, and cut off his own hand, cackling like a lunatic the whole time), do you really think Ripley is going to bother him?

Poring
05/15/2004, 00:19
from what i hear it's down to a guy with a chainsaw and shotgun who fights dead guys for a living versus an unarmed extraterrestrial with acid blood and slightly superhuman abilities.

tough call, but heck ill vote for:

Ash

Q99
05/15/2004, 00:28
Ash is cool, but the creatures he fights and defeats are NOTHING compared to the Aliens we all know and love.

You kiddin'? Sure, the Deadites were nothing (and he tore through them like they were nothing), but the Demon of the Evil Dead movies.... it couldn't actually be hurt until it was manifested, moved a lot faster than a person, burst through doors and obstacles with ease, and every person it got was supernaturally strong and hard to kill, even an evil version of himself. The pit deadite was definitely superhuman, and he shot the flying deadite well enough.

And even if Ash gets knocked down and beaten, badly, he won't give up. Ripley can pound the heck out of him or have him in a strangle grip, but Ash will pull a surprise attack to get the win. Watching him win, it's not skill that causes him to win, it's surprise and hitting when his opponents think they have the edge over 'this fool'.

DOOMSTRIKER
05/15/2004, 00:32
ash all the the way

The Charlatan
05/15/2004, 00:34
Gaaaah! I have to pick one over the other!?

After much consideration, I'll go with DTM on this one, for much the same reason, though my heart tells me to vote for Ash. He most definately won't go down easy though.

Ripley.

Cryomancer
05/15/2004, 00:41
Im glad to see we're all being honest with this fight, I haven't seen the usual one slaughters the other arguement too much yet. I've gotta give this one to Ash but like everyone else is saying, its not an easy ride for him by any means and he'll come out looking very, very rough.
I vote Ash.

SpakSpang
05/15/2004, 00:50
Ash when written right is supposed to be a coward. He isn't some great fighter or soldier. He is just a stupid man with very bad luck.

That being said he also somehow manages to pull through, and has survived his movies.

Ridley is strong smart woman who has fought the most dangerous alien species in the galaxy, and has lived to tell about it...4 times. This current version is stronger than she has ever been.

If we are going by the move Alien Resurrection then she had no guns...at one point she had flame thrower...but that was for one scene.

I see Ash becoming rather creeped out after watching the alien movies and realizing she has had "relations" with the aliens. I also see him being very intimidated by her...though he won't show it too much and will instead be rather cocky.

In the end Ripley wins this battle. She has more experience, and is much more serious about her battles.

KingBlackBolt
05/15/2004, 01:08
ripley

brendanbrown
05/15/2004, 01:10
Hmm...Both of these two have fought many a powerful foe, never given up, and vanquished them in their respective movies, but with the terrain giving nothing to hide behind, Ripley is in for some boom stick hurting. if she somehow got close to him, Ash would certainly take a couple chunks out of her, but the acid blood would do a number on him. I think if they go hth, then it will just be who can survive their wounds long enough, and on that note I give it to Ash, simply because he has the range atvantage and he could outlast her if it came to hth

Vote: Ash

(Great idea, by the way, DTM, I can't wait for the other wieght divisions!:grin: )

Tom1210
05/15/2004, 01:29
People here are voting for Ash just because he's the cooler character and funny. Cool or not, Ash takes this. I vote Ash

Silver Lantern
05/15/2004, 01:43
Isn't Ripley cloned with Alien DNA? Isn't her blood also acid? Doesn't she have superhuman strength, agility, and endurance? If so, then I vote Ripley.

Ash is cool, but being cool isn't going to get you a win in a fight realistically.

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2004, 01:47
please explain how a little acid blood is ever going to even hurt our Housewares clerk?

I mean, he chopped up his own girl friend, chopped off his own hand (and was laughing as he did it), was slamed into trees, poked, jabbed, stabbed, smashed, bashed, bathed in demon blood like a fire hose, drank boiling water, had his body invaded, not once, but twice by the evil, was split apart, stabbed, pierced, split in half, chomped on, sucked into a vortex with face altering consequences, etc. What's a little acid blood. Heck, given his appearances, I'm not sure it would even bubble his skin. He could probably swim in it and only come out with a little scratch on his face.

Toss in putting every round from a repeater into a flying, bouncing, dodging, weaving deadite, and where is Ripley running to.

I mean really...

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2004, 01:50
most people know him from Army of Darkness, but before that there was Evil Dead 1 (which I have not seen) and Evil Dead 2, which was a remake of Evil Dead one (which is apparently so bad it's funny, which is where 2 came in, where they actually tried to mix horror and humor, and then 3 which just threw horror out the window and went for humor).

He is beat like a drum and just keeps getting back up in Evil Dead 2. The darkness does it's level best to stop him, and he keeps on trucking through it.

Poring
05/15/2004, 02:04
unofficial voting tally:

Ash-16
Ripley-6

techdog
05/15/2004, 02:19
I think Ash is going to take this one. Ripley has no gun, and I think Ash would take her out with the Boom Stick, or at least take he down enough to make the Chainsaw do the work. Shame though, I really like Ripley and all. Maybe we should have used the real Ripley in the loaded suit, that would have been a fight.

Grinner
05/15/2004, 03:12
Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
What's a little acid blood. Heck, given his appearances, I'm not sure it would even bubble his skin. He could probably swim in it and only come out with a little scratch on his face.

Or he could come out looking like Evil Ash :eek:

gryphonred
05/15/2004, 03:37
Ash takes it.

Esper3k
05/15/2004, 04:04
As much as I like Ash, I vote for Ripley. Ash, when you come down to it, is still a normal human. Yes, he has a gun, but it's a shotgun, and shotguns generally aren't effective at long ranges. This version of Ripley is by far the most physically impressive one of them all, and probably the most brutal one. Her first attack on Ash probably won't miss (remember her making baskets throwing the basketball behind her), unless he gets very lucky, which admittedly, is possible. Also, while she may not have a gun, there's nothing keeping her from picking up a fist-sized rock and pelting Ash with it. We know that she's got the strength to do severe damage, and the hand-eye coordination to hit Ash pretty easily. Ripley is used to fighting Aliens, Ash's speed, while pretty fast, is nowhere near the reaction time of an Alien.

Also remember, Ash's metal hand may have a lot of strength, but that's just the hand's crushing ability. The rest of his arm is still a human arm, and thus won't have the power that his hand will have. With the twist to this tournament of both characters knowing each other, Ash will know of Ripley's acid blood, thus he may hesitate when using his chain saw, giving Ripley the oppertunity to close in if she wishes.

I vote for Ripley.

kon-el
05/15/2004, 04:14
Sorry, I have to vote for Ash.


Hail to the King Baby

VandalSavage
05/15/2004, 04:32
Originally posted by Esper3k
As much as I like Ash, I vote for Ripley. Ash, when you come down to it, is still a normal human. Yes, he has a gun, but it's a shotgun, and shotguns generally aren't effective at long ranges. This version of Ripley is by far the most physically impressive one of them all, and probably the most brutal one. Her first attack on Ash probably won't miss (remember her making baskets throwing the basketball behind her), unless he gets very lucky, which admittedly, is possible. Also, while she may not have a gun, there's nothing keeping her from picking up a fist-sized rock and pelting Ash with it. We know that she's got the strength to do severe damage, and the hand-eye coordination to hit Ash pretty easily. Ripley is used to fighting Aliens, Ash's speed, while pretty fast, is nowhere near the reaction time of an Alien.



I vote for Ripley.


I have to say...You make a very good case...so good, I will change my vote..

I vote....Ripley!!

Mr. Savage

Prof. Aragorn
05/15/2004, 04:46
Dude with a shotgun, or a chick that can fight the queen Alien...

I vote for Ripley, Ash is good and funny, but if Ripley's got similar skills to just ONE alien drone, it's over-those buggers are fast and can dodge machine gun fire with ease. While a shotgun may tend to spread, he has to be within Ripley's bleeding range of him for the spread to connect and deal damage. Ash is a normal human with average stamina (he has willpower since he doesn't stop going into the woods...), he's funny and cool, but compared to a stronger, faster character, who has a self defense against his preferred weapon is just a bad pull for him.
I vote Ripley, is there a list of all the candidates?

MadHatter
05/15/2004, 04:51
I vote Ripley. This version is pure power and savagery.

Esper3k
05/15/2004, 04:55
Oh yeah, and don't forget that this Ripley has minor regeneration as well (remember her hand healing up pretty quickly after she stabbed herself).

I would also like to see a list of contestants because I think that Cloned Ripley would be a really tough contender to beat unless you had long range firepower that could take her out, which, unfortunately for Ash, he doesn't have.

odieses
05/15/2004, 05:44
I vote ash because of the terrain, Ripley doesnt have anything to hide behind. IF she closes in on Ash its Boomstick and a one liner and Ripley is on ground bleeding acid and out of it.

Rando
05/15/2004, 06:55
I vote Ash

Ripley's superhuman strength and reflexes are pretty minor, they are not even noticable until you have been exposed to her for a while, they are certainly not good enough to dodge multiple shotgun attacks in totally open terrain. Even if Ripley somehow gets close enough for her acid blood to be relevant it still probably won't give her the match, if she gets shot and Ash gets acided then she will probably dies first, her acid isn't as caustic as was the true aliens.

green_knight
05/15/2004, 08:22
Hail to the king baby!

I vote ASH!

He gets his butt handed to him by superpowered women on a regular basis, but just when you think its over, BAM! He takes em out with an S-Mart weapon of choice. shop smart, shop S-Mart.

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2004, 12:11
you want a list of folks (other then Ash) who will kick ripely's kiester? Here's a few.

James Bond - duh, she's a woman, she's putty in his hands. This is the biggest cake walk of the tourney (other then a Lara/Bond matchup). He'll bed her, and then kill her, without even blinking an eye.

The Man With No Name - we've already seen his six guns beat out the best rifle man in the old west. Another no contest fight

Wesley - if you can take having 50 years of your life being sucked away and still come back Ripley isn't anything.

Rambo - as cheesy as the movies are, any man that can hip fire an M60 will go through Ripley like a hot knife through butter.

Indiana Jones - Not so easy, but professor jones has faced the ark of the covenant, and has the mutant power to keep his hat on his head even when upside down moving 100 miles an hour. How can Ripley ever compete with that.

Q99
05/15/2004, 12:17
Yes, he has a gun, but it's a shotgun, and shotguns generally aren't effective at long ranges.

It's still 10 feet or so of hurting that's to his advantage.

I see the main deciding factor being their brains. Ripley is a problem solver, but still falls prey to traps and tends to be pretty direct. Ash on the other hand has a flair for the unconventional and unpredictable, and can second-guess opponents pretty well. In a fight, unpredictability kills.

Rando
05/15/2004, 12:23
Really I think anyone with a firearm could take Ripley, she just cannot dodge bullets. All the Aliens movies take place in confined areas to heigthten the close combat advantage, in an open field even full aliens would fall to gunplay. This is even more true in these matches than in comics, guns are less effective in comics, as a genre, than in movies. I would also vote for Boromir and Aragon over Ripley, Aragon has a bow, Boromir has a shield to block the acid and Ripley is not more dangerous than the dozen or so Uruk-hai Boromir wasted before going out.

NickFury15
05/15/2004, 12:29
Ash. After what we've seen him recover from, alien blood isn't going to hurt him for long...

Mägo de Oz
05/15/2004, 12:38
Ripley!

Esper3k
05/15/2004, 12:42
I would not say that Ripley's superstrength and reflexes are minor, especially when compared to that of a human. Just because she chooses not to flaunt them doesn't mean they're not there. She swung a barbell(sp?) around and hit people with it as if it were nothing, which seems to me to be quite a bit stronger than that of your normal human.

Ripley is not going to go down to a single shotgun shot. Yes, there isn't much cover, but there are still boulders and such to provide a bit of cover, as well as provide many things for Ripley to toss Ash's way.

As to their tactical abilities, Ripley has lead and commanded a team of elite space marines. She has gone on her own into an Alien hive to save Newt, fought a queen (whom she was no expecting), and made it out alive. That's some pretty quick thinking on her feet. Ash is pretty unpredictable, but Ripley is the better tactician.

Admittedly, Ash did get a good pull on environment against Ripley, but c'mon, Boromir? With a little wooden shield? That's the reason he would win against Ripley? She would pick up a tree trunk, swat him with it like a baseball bat, then roll it over the dozen orcs that would be coming to kill him too.

eltigrediablo
05/15/2004, 12:50
Ash, of course.

jedah_s
05/15/2004, 13:14
Gotta go with Ripley.

Anyone in a fight against someone armed with a shotgun will keep their distance.
She might get hit with some pellets, but from that range the damage would be minimal, and she'd regenerate pretty quickly. Remember at this point in the movie timeline, she's not afraid to die, and she's not afraid of pain.
The most important part tho imo (unless we're going with movie gun physics) is that eventually, Ash would have to reload. A difficult task when one has a chainsaw for a hand.
Here's what I see happening, Ripley baiting Ash into firing his two favorite weapons at her (his boomstick and his mouth), keeping her distance and dodgeing, waiting until he's out of ammo, and closing the distance with her augmented speed.
Ash would see this, drop the boomstick, and frantically try to start his chainsaw hand (Which would fail on the first two tries, doesn't it always? Nothing with a pull cord ever starts on the first try).
He'd get it started just as she's almost on him, take a swing, clip her, say a snappy one-liner as she regenerates, and would go for another sloppier swing.
Ripley would catch this swing, and tear his chainsaw hand off.
Leaving Ash with no weapons.
Then she'd probably tear him apart, because once you get past the gun and chainsaw, Ash is still just a guy.

(and Ripley's blood was caustic enough to eat thru metal... not as fast as a real aliens, but it still ate thru)

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:17
Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
please explain how a little acid blood is ever going to even hurt our Housewares clerk?

I mean, he chopped up his own girl friend, chopped off his own hand (and was laughing as he did it), was slamed into trees, poked, jabbed, stabbed, smashed, bashed, bathed in demon blood like a fire hose, drank boiling water, had his body invaded, not once, but twice by the evil, was split apart, stabbed, pierced, split in half, chomped on, sucked into a vortex with face altering consequences, etc. What's a little acid blood. Heck, given his appearances, I'm not sure it would even bubble his skin. He could probably swim in it and only come out with a little scratch on his face.

Toss in putting every round from a repeater into a flying, bouncing, dodging, weaving deadite, and where is Ripley running to.

I mean really...

I dont see how cutting up his own girlfriend, which caused him to get doused with her blood, is going to save Ash if he decides to chainsaw Ripley and get covered in hers. Ripley has acid blood, his girlfriend, though possessed, didnt.

God I love those Evil Dead movies. :) Did you guys know Bridget Fonda played a cameo role in Army of Darkness as his girlfriend?

Anyway, I think the terrain pull is really hurting Ripley here. With no where to hide, hunt or stealth, and no range for her, shes in trouble. I still vote for her since I believe shes MUCH smarter and more cunning that Ash could ever hope to be, and in the end this will allow her to get close enough to SNAP his neck.

But as many of you have decided so far, its going to be one VERY CLOSE fight, even if the voting scores dont show that here.

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:21
Originally posted by Esper3k
As much as I like Ash, I vote for Ripley. Ash, when you come down to it, is still a normal human. Yes, he has a gun, but it's a shotgun, and shotguns generally aren't effective at long ranges. This version of Ripley is by far the most physically impressive one of them all, and probably the most brutal one. Her first attack on Ash probably won't miss (remember her making baskets throwing the basketball behind her), unless he gets very lucky, which admittedly, is possible. Also, while she may not have a gun, there's nothing keeping her from picking up a fist-sized rock and pelting Ash with it. We know that she's got the strength to do severe damage, and the hand-eye coordination to hit Ash pretty easily. Ripley is used to fighting Aliens, Ash's speed, while pretty fast, is nowhere near the reaction time of an Alien.

Also remember, Ash's metal hand may have a lot of strength, but that's just the hand's crushing ability. The rest of his arm is still a human arm, and thus won't have the power that his hand will have. With the twist to this tournament of both characters knowing each other, Ash will know of Ripley's acid blood, thus he may hesitate when using his chain saw, giving Ripley the oppertunity to close in if she wishes.

I vote for Ripley.

You do make some very good points there, especially about the shotguns range and her ability to hit from range herself. Sure not with a gun, or even a basketball, but there are surely rocks and such in this area she could use. A shotgun will NOT be effective unless youre somewhat close, and Im willing to bet Ripley could throw a well placed rock, as she did with a basketball from behind in the movie, to stun Ash long enough for her to close the gap. Once this is done, shes going to take him.

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:28
Ash - 23 votes
Cloned Ripley - 12 votes

Remember all, this battle and ANY Round 1 battle are STILL ACTIVE until the end of Round 1. So if you havent voted yet, or still wish to plead your cases, you DO have time to do so.

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:30
Oh, and YOU pick the next match.

First person to post HERE a hero, one hero, theyd like to see fight next, and give me a number from 1 to 6, the next fight will be posted based on this. THanks.

KingBlackBolt
05/15/2004, 16:47
lets see shrek. 5

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:49
Shrek? The Green Ogre? Hes not on the list KBB.

Uh, any others, or should I just pick?

Thwap Man
05/15/2004, 16:51
Jedah, I don't care how good the regenerative abilities of Ripley are, it's going to be a little tricky for her to catch the chainsaw midswing. There aren't many lightweights who would try that one. I think that if Ash bides his time, and doesn't use the shotgun until she's in close enough for him to really damage her with it, he'll be able to hurt her enough before she gets hand to hand so that her agility will be severely lessened. At that point, he'd be able to finish up with the chainsaw.

More possible heroes:
Jet Li from The One (I can't remember the character's name).
John Travolta from Swordfish (Really, I'm bad with names).
Butch from Pulp Fiction (with katana and/or gun)
The Bride from Kill Bill
Maximus from Gladiator

Thwap Man
05/15/2004, 16:53
Oh, Jeez. Sorry. You only wanted one person. If it specifically must be a hero and not a villain, then I'd take Maximus from my list, otherwise Jet Li (although he may be too powerful). And a number? How about 3?

DTM
05/15/2004, 16:55
Well, we already nomninated our list already, were not really looking for any other choices, just a person youd like to see Fighting in Match 2, and a number from 1 to 6. The first person who gives me BOTH, Ill take their info and make up Match 2.

DTM
05/15/2004, 17:00
Nevermind, Ill just have my wife pick then. Gotta get this next battle up sometime soon. :p

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2004, 18:09
I dont see how cutting up his own girlfriend, which caused him to get doused with her blood, is going to save Ash if he decides to chainsaw Ripley and get covered in hers. Ripley has acid blood, his girlfriend, though possessed, didnt.

wasn't refering to that. I was refering to when he shot his demon possed hand and was blown across the house by a fire hose of corrupted blood.

Shotguns are still good well outside of 10 feet. He'll put a minimum of 3 shells in her before she gets close, and then cue that lovely chainsaw sound.

If this is an evil dead movie, ash will hit her about 10-20 times, she'll get in all messed up, bash his face a little, then he'll get ticked, and chop her into fish bait.

If it's not an Evil Dead flick 3-4 rounds will put anyone down. Heck, even two rounds, if it's his double barrel, will drop her like a ton of bricks.

Esper3k
05/16/2004, 00:10
If it were an Alien movie, Ash would walk along, Ripley would burst up from underneath the dirt after sensing his footsteps on the ground next to her, and literally rip him apart. Or Ripley would smash his skull with a thrown rock/boulder from outside of shotgun range. She could probably win the fight without closing in, but even if she closed in, she'd take Ash unless he got lucky with the chainsaw.

Maniac_nmt
05/16/2004, 00:57
lucky? That man makes Jason Vorhees look like a noob when he's wieldling that chainsaw.

DTM
05/16/2004, 01:01
Thats IF the chainsaw even starts, Lord knows hes had some trouble with that in the past. And This Ripley isnt going to chase him in circles whe this happens, as would a Evil Dead Demon, but charge full on him and snap his neck for a quick kill.

Ro-gan
05/16/2004, 01:53
Ripley.

Although just barely.

Ash has some amazing dumb luck and a very HIGH tolerance to pain.

I hate you, DTM, for picking for the first match two characters I like alot. ;)

DTM
05/16/2004, 02:21
I am a hated man here on HCRealms, my friend, welcome to the club. :)

Prof. Aragorn
05/16/2004, 04:14
There's a club, why wasn't I told

A free gold mine awaits!:p

jedah_s
05/16/2004, 08:29
Originally posted by Thwap Man
Jedah, I don't care how good the regenerative abilities of Ripley are, it's going to be a little tricky for her to catch the chainsaw midswing. There aren't many lightweights who would try that one.


catching a chainsaw mid-swing is not like catching a sword mid-swing. there are parts of a chainsaw that will not hurt you.
it's not like she's going to catch the chainsaw by the part with the chain blade...
she'd either catch it by the motor, or simply grab his forearm.
and if it's a little tricky to do... good thing she's faster and stronger than ash with her augmented alien speed and strength.
i'm sticking with my story..... and i didn't even have her start throwing rocks at ash (good call, whoever brought that up)... anyone ever get hit in the face with a really fast pitch?
bet those rocks would sting when you catch one in the eye.

Dr. Morbius
05/16/2004, 08:55
"Ripley 8" doesn't play for keeps...she kicks "goofy" Ash's butt!

DTM
05/16/2004, 14:39
Ash - 23 votes
Cloned Ripley - 14 votes

Maniac_nmt
05/16/2004, 19:54
Thats IF the chainsaw even starts

There is no if, it will start or be started.

If there is no question Indy has his gun fully loaded, then there is no question Ash has that baby humming just like a song.

Esper3k
05/16/2004, 20:19
Yeah, all this close of close combat, and what I had said earlier about her throwing a fist sized rock or even a small boulder would end this match quickly. Ash may have a great tolerance for pain, but when his skull is crushed or he's got broken bones, tolerence for pain won't get his body working again. A thrown rock to the head or leg will break Ash's bones and render him helpless, dead, or severely gimped up enough so that another rock would take him out.

Ignatz_Mouse
05/16/2004, 20:27
Ash all the way.

Jackygobang
05/16/2004, 20:27
Ash's abilites, if I remember correctly, are supposed to be slightly enhanced due to deadite posession. But even if i'm wrong, a blast of buckshot will take Ripley's head off, and despite being sprayed with acid, ash will still be alive, while I doubt hybrid ripley would be.

DTM
05/17/2004, 00:36
Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
There is no if, it will start or be started.

If there is no question Indy has his gun fully loaded, then there is no question Ash has that baby humming just like a song.


In the movies, Indianas gun NEVER misfires or jams, I dont even recall him running out of bullets actually.

In the Evil Dead series, I certainly remember Ash having trouble starting his chainsaw, which is why I wrote IF it starts.