View Full Version : Movie Battles: Tournament Of Champions LW Division: Round 1, Match 4
AH, I can hear John Williams' classic score already, as Indiana Jones makes short work of his First Round opponent, The Six Fingered Man. While that one was a bit of a blowout, I think youll all agree this one is going to be MUCH closer.
So without further hesitation, allow me to present your next battle in a BRAND NEW type of Tournament Of Champions:
SCORPION KING (SCORPION KING)
VS.
BOROMIR (LOTR: FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING)
As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.
Randomly Chosen Area:
Urban Environment - Filled with medium/large sized buildings, paved roads, possibly a few cars/dumpsters, etc.
Thanks all, and enjoy.
REMEMBER, these characters should be judged and voted on ONLY due to what they’ve done, or supposed to have done, in the MOVIES. Any comic books, TV shows, cartoons, anything else regarding these characters DOES NOT MATTER, and SHOULD NOT be used to defend such characters.
MOVIE TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS
ROUND 1
Ash vs. Cloned Ripley: Ash
Mad Max vs. The Bride: The Bride
Indiana Jones vs. The Six Fingered Man: Indiana Jones
Scorpion King vs. Boromir: ??????
CUZ he can take three huge arrows and still stand toe to toe.
supermangl1
05/16/2004, 17:10
Yipes, my first feeling is that Scorpion King will over power Boromir. But physical strength is not everything in fight. Boromir can take some damage can keep on coming. So I think I will hold off my vote till others share their thoughts.
plus Boromir was never made into some stupid looking scorpion beastie when they could've just had theRock fight that mummy!!!
Still, keep in mind the Scorpion King isnt some brutish sword weilding oaf. He is an UNREAL fighter and warrior, and can take an extreme amount of punishment before he is KOed.
Gentlegamer
05/16/2004, 17:14
Boromir, son of Denethor, Captain of Gondor!
I vote the scorpion King. Boromir is good but the Rock is better. If you have seen the scorpion king, he takes out multiple soldiers at the same time and doesnt die unlike Boromir. Granted LOTR is a better movie than Scorpion king, the rock is a better fighter than Boromir.
MY VOTE THE ROCK
Im voting Scorpion King as well. He is pretty much everything Boromir is except stronger, body and mind. Against Aragorn, I have my doubts, but against Boromir I definately believe SK would win more than not, though all of their battles would be TOUGH.
KingBlackBolt
05/16/2004, 17:31
Boromir for the win.
brendanbrown
05/16/2004, 17:38
Scorpion king is, as DTM said, Boromir plus.
Vote: Scorpion King
Cryomancer
05/16/2004, 17:58
i agree with DTM here, not bringing into play which movie was better the Scorpian King gets my vote
The Scorpion King. He overthrew an entire empire. He's the last of a race of people who essentially train their entire lives to be warriors. Granted, the people of Gondor are no pushovers, but I don't believe that they are as single-minded in their training as the Arkadians (sp?). The Scorpion King also seems to have more of a broader range of tactics compared to Boromir's standard sword + shield style or arrows. It won't be an easy fight for SK, but I don't think Boromir will really be anything that SK can't handle either.
My vote for the Scorpion King.
Prof. Aragorn
05/16/2004, 18:21
Yeah, Scorpian King is just going to slam arrows and stuff into Boromir and he just won't die, Rock will be puzzled and Boromir would just go uhh...an hour later 5000 arrows are in him and he's still not dead.
Vote for the Scorpian King
Nighthawk
05/16/2004, 18:35
Scorpion King, maybe not as mentally tough, but more of a tactician.
Maniac_nmt
05/16/2004, 18:51
Borormir. It will be a good fight, but in the end the outcome is never in doubt.
Kills a coupld dozen vs kills close to one to two hundered, with a chest full of arrows.
Are you saying that Boromir killed a hundred orcs in the scene where he died? Because if so, I know my vision is bad, but I didn't see anywhere near 100+ orcs in that scene.
I agree. He showed Incredible strength of will to continue fighting, but he definately did not handle a couple of hundred orcs in that scene, not even close. Heck, I dont even think the entire orc raiding party had a couple of hundred total in there, let alone how many Boromir fought.
As much as I hated the movie, Scorpion King wins this one. He's just too powerful compared to Boromir.
I'll go for the guy with the bow. Oh, wait, they both have bows. Um, I'll go for the guy who's trained his entire life with his sword. Oh, wait, that's both of them again. How about the one with deep, internal drive? No, both again... :confused:
I can't even go for which actor I prefer, because I like both of 'em.
I'm slightly leaning one way, but I'll wait to hear some more reasons from other people before I come down on one side. But this is another 51/49 in my mind.
ninja_pie_joe
05/16/2004, 19:46
Borimir
Maniac_nmt
05/16/2004, 19:50
check it again after they come find him, the whole area arround him is littered with urk-hai dead. more then the scorpian king killed in a whole movie.
The Charlatan
05/16/2004, 19:54
Scorpion King.
Jackygobang
05/16/2004, 20:38
Hrm....SK has the Odysseus thing going on(incidentally, Boromir's actor plays Odyssyeus in Troy. Coincidence, i think NOT!), but Boromir is just tough.
Smarts
I'd have to say about even. SK is good at improvisation, but Bormir's tactics held off the armies of mordor when he ran the gondor army.
Strength
I'd have to go with SK here. Once again, the super bow trick is really the showcase.
Skill
Dead even
Toughness
The big one. They never really show SK being all that tough, at least compared to Boromir. He took more than a couple arrows, and still f'd up some uruk-hai. I'd have to say Boromir slightly edges out SK.
I'll hear some arguments before I vote...
I vote Scorpion King
The most important factor here for me is that Boromir is essentially just a really good fighter, the Scorpion King is not only a really good fighter but also a really good assassin. Boromir's skills only involve walking around an killing things, The Scorpion King knows how to utilize stealth, Boromor doesn't, the Scorpion King also has ranged weapons that he can use from stealth, Boromir doesn't. If this had been an open area it would be a much closer fight but in Urban Boromir will end up with an arrow (or 4) in the back.
green_knight
05/16/2004, 22:14
Originally posted by Rando
I vote Scorpion King
The most important factor here for me is that Boromir is essentially just a really good fighter, the Scorpion King is not only a really good fighter but also a really good assassin. Boromir's skills only involve walking around an killing things, The Scorpion King knows how to utilize stealth, Boromor doesn't, the Scorpion King also has ranged weapons that he can use from stealth, Boromir doesn't. If this had been an open area it would be a much closer fight but in Urban Boromir will end up with an arrow (or 4) in the back.
I agree completely, and as a side note to those who don't thing the Scorpion King can take it as well as dish it out, He pulled a poisoned arrow OUT OF HIS BACK to lay the final smack down on the villians candy ###.
That and the first minute of SK clinches it for me. When he walks into that hut, shoots the guy with the arrow, and they show the guy blast through the roof and sail through the sky form the force of it. Set the tone for the whole movie.
I also would rather have had a king vs king battle with Aragorn and SK, but Boromir although tough as nails, isn't quite up there with those two.
I vote for the Rock to kick Boromir in the jabronis, assassin style, and then finish him with the aforementioned 5000+ arrows, pulled out of the quiver of his own back.
Supamain
05/16/2004, 22:40
I vote the King.
You never really had to see what his defensive limits were, because he was so skilled.
Boromir's father was a "Steward", he probably didn't have half the training/survival lessons S.K. did as a child.
Maximcards
05/16/2004, 22:47
SK wins
Maniac_nmt
05/16/2004, 22:50
Huh!? not half the training!? Gondor was the only bastion against Mordor, and it running wild all over Middle Earth.
Boromir would have cut his teeth eating his meat from the tip of a sword. He was being groomed to be the next lord of gondor, and was their field general. It is entirely because of Boromir, and his bravery that there even was a Fellowship of the Ring, or free peoples to undertake that task.
StilettoHawaii
05/16/2004, 22:54
Boromir
Perfectstorm
05/16/2004, 23:11
Close, but you can't stop the rock.
Boromir is great,but the scorpion kin just has the physical age.
Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
Huh!? not half the training!? Gondor was the only bastion against Mordor, and it running wild all over Middle Earth.
Boromir would have cut his teeth eating his meat from the tip of a sword. He was being groomed to be the next lord of gondor, and was their field general. It is entirely because of Boromir, and his bravery that there even was a Fellowship of the Ring, or free peoples to undertake that task.
The more you post, the more I seem to agree with you....
supermangl1
05/16/2004, 23:21
Well, it saddens me to vote this way but I think it's the truth. Scorpian King wins, I think the physical edge (stronger, faster) and the sneakiness of SK wins. I think Boromir is twice as cool as SK but he wins this fight sadly.
He'll lose to Aragon I feel though.
my vote = Scorpion King
Fat Ninja
05/16/2004, 23:55
Scorpion King
Grundy22
05/17/2004, 00:08
Scorpion King
gryphonred
05/17/2004, 00:18
Scorpion King for the win.
Originally posted by Grinner
I'll go for the guy with the bow. Oh, wait, they both have bows. Um, I'll go for the guy who's trained his entire life with his sword. Oh, wait, that's both of them again. How about the one with deep, internal drive? No, both again... :confused:
I can't even go for which actor I prefer, because I like both of 'em.
I'm slightly leaning one way, but I'll wait to hear some more reasons from other people before I come down on one side. But this is another 51/49 in my mind.
Actually, Boromir has no bow and arrow. Only Aragorn and Legolas of the Fellowship had a bow. SK on the other hand DOES have one.
MadHatter
05/17/2004, 00:53
Scorpion King. The Heir to the Steward of Gondor is great, but I think the Rock has what it takes to win this one.
I am going with the Scorpion King on this one. I think he is a more focused and better rounded fighter, Also, the egyptian sword is slightly lighter and faster than the broadsword that Boromir is using, and in a fight, speed kills. So, Methas wins.
Thanosied
05/17/2004, 04:35
Vote Boromir
Scorpion King is God Like and should not be in the tourney, but then again I haven't seen all the combatanats.
This is very difficult. The Scorpion King showed some really cool moves during the movie. Boromir didn't actually show any "cool" moves but he was tough. Able to continue fighting even with three arrows in him.
If the criteria here is how much they did or showed as in the movie then I guess the Scorpion King will win this match.
I vote Scorpion King even if the character and the movie sucked.
Dr. Morbius
05/17/2004, 05:15
What a joke...this is so easy:
Boromir fought and beat worse things than the lousy Scorpion King (e.g. the Watcher in the water).
I say Boromir wins!
Gentlegamer
05/17/2004, 08:17
If you look at the ground when after Aragorn slays Lurgz and tends to Boromir, you will see the ground is littered with Uruk-hai corpses . . . at least one score, maybe more.
eltigrediablo
05/17/2004, 08:48
The Scorpion King lays the Smackdown.
I agree that Boromir probably killed about 20 orcs, but nowhere near the number of one hundred+.
Maniac_nmt
05/17/2004, 10:43
your right, he didn't kill 100 orcs, he killed Uruk-hai. Stronger, faster, tougher, mean, bigger, more endurance, more powerful then men.
He kills so many you almost can't move for stepping on one. Killed them like dogs, took an arrow, killed scores more, takes another arrow, kills more, takes another arrow, and still isn't going down.
Now, that many bigger, stronger, tougher, quicker, more durable opponents (as the Uruk-hai would be low level superhuman for comics) failed to take him down through shear weight of numbers, why on earth would the rock be able to bring him down?
The Scorpion king should be able to defeat every any LOTR characters except Aragorn, Gandalf and maybe, just maybe Legolas.
So my is for The Rock
MadHatter
05/17/2004, 10:53
Um...he wasn't on the screen long enough to kill "100's." Esper's number of about 20 seems right, still darned impressive, but let's not blow it completely out of proportion.
Originally posted by MadHatter
Um...he wasn't on the screen long enough to kill "100's." Esper's number of about 20 seems right, still darned impressive, but let's not blow it completely out of proportion.
So go back and watch that scene, and look at how many he killed.
Just because it didn't happen on screen doesn't mean it didn't happen.
chase_jyd
05/17/2004, 11:06
This one is almost too close for me to call. Going through the responses though, I'm going to say Boromir. That many Uruk-Hai can't be wrong.
VandalSavage
05/17/2004, 13:57
I vote....Boromir!
Mr.Savage
Originally posted by Tom1210
This is very difficult. The Scorpion King showed some really cool moves during the movie. Boromir didn't actually show any "cool" moves but he was tough. Able to continue fighting even with three arrows in him.
If the criteria here is how much they did or showed as in the movie then I guess the Scorpion King will win this match.
I vote Scorpion King even if the character and the movie sucked.
Well, the criteria here is how much they showed in the movies YES, but one can assume much from what we do see in the films as well. (This rule was just set up for characters that might have comic books, cartoons, video games, novels, etc about them making their character all around more powerful than they appear in the film)
IF a situation in the film suggests a characters can do something, but we dont actually see it happen, than Id say that can be taken as Canon as well. (ex. Han says to Chewie, "good wrestling that Wampa, I thought he was gonna take you for a second", even though we dont see the fight in question, it being off camera, the characters in the movie do make mention of it happening, so it can be used as a proving point of argument, since it did happen in the Movie Universe........of course this Wookiee/Wampa fight NEVER HAPPENED, its just a small made up example here)
Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
your right, he didn't kill 100 orcs, he killed Uruk-hai. Stronger, faster, tougher, mean, bigger, more endurance, more powerful then men.
He kills so many you almost can't move for stepping on one. Killed them like dogs, took an arrow, killed scores more, takes another arrow, kills more, takes another arrow, and still isn't going down.
Now, that many bigger, stronger, tougher, quicker, more durable opponents (as the Uruk-hai would be low level superhuman for comics) failed to take him down through shear weight of numbers, why on earth would the rock be able to bring him down?
Eh, the Urukhai were SUPPOSED to be so tough, but everyone in the group pretty much went thru them like butter, and the only really superhuman level one was the one that actually killed Boromir with his bow and fought Aragorn.
I actually remember seeing this, and saying to someone, "How many super orcs did they make, I only saw one at the battles end", since all the others feel so easily. They were supposed to be all that, but really, were hardly a challenge for anyone in the Fellowship, which would mean the SK could handle himself just as well with them too.
Scorpion King - 25 votes
Boromir - 12 votes
Maniac_nmt
05/17/2004, 15:10
maybe, but we do see uruk-hai bust normal men's heads.
That's the whole deal, the Fellowship are the mightiest their races can send (or close to it). I mean, even bog standard orcs go through the defenders of Osgiliath like butter whithout Boromir there to lead them.
True, but The Scorpion King is also in this category, and in most of our eyes it seems, mightier than most of the Fellowship as well.
Silver Lantern
05/18/2004, 05:47
Boromir!
I vote Scorpion King on this one in a brutally close fight. LOTRs was infinitely the better movie, but character wise, SK wins it IMO. Hes stronger.
And I don't think he killed more than 20. There were lots of dead orcs, but keep in mind he was not the only man fighting in that scene. Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn also added alot to that count. To attribute them all to Boromir is inaccurate. While not applicable to this tournament, I will check the books by Tolkein and see if they reference how many were in fact killed, and how many by Boromir.
Maniac_nmt
05/18/2004, 19:26
no it's not, Gimli, Legolas, and Aragorn were no where near Boromir's last stand. It's entirely accurate to attribute them to Sean Bean. I mean, that's why they all had to come running when they heard the horn of Gondor, and still didn't make it untill after he'd been hit with the third arrow, and it was just lurtz left.
Rokk_Krinn
05/26/2004, 10:13
Boromir's unreal willpower and resilience are what pushes things in his favour, in my opinion. True, the SK was the last of his race and single-minded but nowhere near to the point of obsessiveness as Boromir - the man had drive like you wouldn't believe (which is why he was somewhat corruptable - anything to succeed in his goal - but I don't see the Ring around here). Actually, I could very well see the fight end up with the two killing each other more or less simultaneously - SK impaling Boromir who slides along the blade and beheads SK.
Vote: Boromir
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