Dc :villainous wildcards needed?

[Mystic warrior]

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[gryphonred]

I was thinking V

[Mystic warrior]

OKAY I GOT CUT OFF SORRY


I WAS THINKING DC COULD USE VILLAINIOS WILDCARDS UH SAY THE ASSASSIN TEAM. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR DEATHSTROKE ,CHESIRE, LADY SHIVA, ETC.

OR MERCENARY TEAM WHICHEVER YOU PREFER

[darthnader]

I thought the Royal Flush Gang would make great villainous wildcards.

[Bat-Dude]

I'd love it and I don't see why it hasn't happened yet. There are plenty of DC Villains that work together and could warrant this.

[Darth Sabre]

What about Flash's rogues? They often work together, and with others.

[WarHULK]

I also hope for a DC villains Wild Card TA. Marvel has the Doom team which is wonderful and can be a catch-all at times (Taskmaster and Spiral to represent abilities/tendancies) so it would only make sense to have a villain team much like that in DC. I have no clue what villain team in DC would really make sense having a Wild Card TA but I'm sure there's one out there... some where...

I think that the Injustice League would have been idea as a Wild Card since the roster tends to collect villains from many other character's rogue's galleries. Obviously it's far too late for that.

[webhead817]

I would have liked to have seen Darkseid get it maybe, like an Apokolips TA. Of course, that would have made the Parademons a little too good maybe.

However, yes, I agree that DC needs a "bad guy" wildcard TA.

[Glen Quagmire]

I dunno. I don't really like the idea of someone as powerful as Dr. Doom or Ultron being a wild card, so I wouldn't want the same to happen in DC.

However, Flash's rogues would work well for me as a wild card, since there's probably none that would be an overly powerful 150+ character.

[Whiz Fan]

They should just make the Legion of Supervillians as wildcards.

Saturn Queen
Cosmic King
Lightning Lord
Chameleon Chief
Sun Emperor.

Seems "balanced" to me. :p

[splitblood]

The rouges definatkly would be the team to do it with

[esfoad]

I couldn't say which team is best suited for this, but I do believe that DC is long overdue for a villian wildcard team. I love DC wildcards but, playing mostly theme-based teams, we're limited to only using them about half the time. There looks to be a good deal of support for this new team (whatever it would turn out to be).

[Spiderhulk]

I like the assasins Wild card idea,myself

[bladestalker]

what about giving it to the Fatal FIve Legion enemies.

[splitblood]

The Rougues would be the best fit because you could run the gambit of point total.

Trickster-low point
Captain Cold-Mid point
Abra-Kadbra-High point.

Just three examples though I'm sure Flash fans here can think of a few :-) Hmmm Professor Zoom

[esfoad]

Originally posted by splitblood
Just three examples though I'm sure Flash fans here can think of a few

Though I like the Flash, I've not been following his own book. What other villians would be in that list?

Would that group any leave room for non-Flash badies? (would we need any?)

[I Am The Game]

What's wrong with changing the Injustice League to a wildcard team? The TA costs much more than the other wildcard teams, so it won't undercost any figures. If anything, we'd see a lot of great characters see regular play.

[superfriend]

I do not think a DC villains wildcard team makes sense considering the DC team abilities. Why should they get Stealth? Why should they get XRay vision? The Legion makes sense as they are using 31st centruy technology. There is no villain team that makes sense.

[Supes]

Now that Marvel has the "Ultimate" TA there is no need for DC to be stuck with these "support" wildcard figures anymore.

Now that DC would be able to chime in a few new TAs to get level with Marvel again (this game is mostly about these two trying to out do each other it seems)

I always thought that DC should get another Wildcard team now that Marvel has the Supes TA with all those nice Wildcards.

The only team I can think of that would work well in this sense is the Flash Rogues. They team up all the time and there are hundreds of them. Just read the last Flash... Nightwing comments on how he probably has almost as many as Batman.

I won't bother listing them but they are varied enough to make for nice wildcards. you have Range (Cap Cold, Cap Boomerang), trickery and support (Mirror Master, Abra-Kadbra, Trickster), Even some HSSpeeders( Prof Zoom, Savitar). Plus who wouldn't love to get a powerful new Gorilla Grodd with a Wildcard ability?

Yeah I'd have to say I would be fine to have waited for the Flash rogues if they come out as wildcards. Heck that means they would also work well in Suicide Squad teams... like they should.

Oh yes... and Flash Rogues are also the ones that "switch to the good side" the most. They turn good and then evil again so much that it's a running joke in the Flash books.

[Supes]

Originally posted by superfriend
I do not think a DC villains wildcard team makes sense considering the DC team abilities. Why should they get Stealth? Why should they get XRay vision? The Legion makes sense as they are using 31st centruy technology. There is no villain team that makes sense.

And the Spiderman and Dr. Doom wildcards make more sense?

Geez... it's a game. Calm down.

Wildcards are just meant so show that there are those figures that "play well with others"

Spiderman does it.
Doom demands it.
Legion can't help it.

And the Flash rogues live for it.

And besides... case in point. What makes Spiderman all of a sudden able to have X-ray vision just because Ult. Black Widow is hanging around? And if you say ... well she has satellite hook up and can feed him info... same as Superman flying around and telling anybody else where to hit.

that's check and mate.

[superfriend]

Originally posted by Supes
Geez... it's a game. Calm down. ...
that's check and mate.

I wonder what I said that caused this. There was no hostility in my post. I was expressing an opinion like everyone else here. I'll post another one now.

To me, Flash's Rogues does make a 'logical' team for a new official team ability. I won't pretend to know what that should be. Comicbook wise they do not appear to be a very stealthy group. They do not have ties to Superman. They do fit in nicely with the IL and the Suicide Squad as many were members of both. So many of them could get SS in one version and IL for another.

Marvel has the Brotherhood, a free moving villain team. There are several Indy powers not yet represented in DC. Does it make sense to duplicate all team abilities in all universes? I'd rather get the 2000AD/UltXMen ability than a second wildcard or free move team. Or how about something completely new like they did for Suicide Squad and Kingdom Come?

[Ignatz_Mouse]

I love the idea of Rogues having wildcard. Not only do they play well together, they oftenhave some new trick up their sleeve that would easily be explained by a wildcard. For instance, Mirror Master might have some sort of "essence mirror" that would allow him to trade clicks with other figures. Or a prism that lights up stealth figures.

Some rogues I would like to see:

Mirror Master (V could be IL team)
Captain Boomerang (E could be Suicide Squad)
Abra Kadabra
Professor Zoom
Captain Cold
Golden Glider

[Kon`El]

Amazo would have been ideal for a villans TA.

Flash Rogues does seem to be the team to do it with though.

[DrDoomDemands]

I was thinking about that the other day, Amazo should have been a wild card simply because his powers change constantly, a new enemy from a diffent team would just add new powers. then again hes primarly against the justice league.
The Legion is weak. Long live MINIONS OF DOOM!

[Rocket Ranger]

How about the Legion of Doom?;) :grin:

[Kon`El]

Originally posted by Rocket Ranger
How about the Legion of Doom?;) :grin:

Hawk and Animal were cool.
powerbomb?

[Kon`El]

What about a wildcard that can only copy TA's of oposing figs? that would be sweet.

[LeaLu]

Originally posted by Kon`El
What about a wildcard that can only copy TA's of oposing figs? that would be sweet.

And, really, more appropriate for Amazo than a normal wildcard, since that's his gimmick. Then again, it's not like he really needs any help...

[DrDoomDemands]

Thats a good idea, I think ill use that in the next senario game we do. you should make that into a thread and get a poll going. maybe wizkids will do that.

[darthnader]

While I would love to see Flash's Rogues, I don't think they're really appropriate for wildcards. They mostly team up with each other, so making a team solely composed of Flash Rogues would mean they could copy Suicide Squad and IL abilities. I would like to see them come up with a new TA for them.

I love the idea of Injustice League/Legion of Doom becoming a wildcard TA. That is brilliant!

[I Am The Game]

New TA: Legion of Doom

If both members of the Legion of Doom are adjacent to an opponent who is pushed, they may declare the Devestation Device. This maneuver costs both Legion of Doom members an action, but only one attack roll is made between the two partners. A sucessful attack KO's target opponent figure, and all powers and abilities are ignored.

:classic:

[DrDoomDemands]

Um yea... Thats inventive and creative and all, but if i was the opposing player i just wouldnt push my characters.

[mizzoufan1]

Getting back on track...A DC bad guy wild card team would be great. Especially considering the venue I play at has a Good Team/Bad Team house rule. Example is you cannot have say Superman running around with a bunch of Batman Enemies or aomething like that. Non-affiliateds and Mystics are considered neutral and can be on any team. So a Bad guy wild card team would help greatly in this. turning IL TA into a wild card team seems to be the best. IL's tend to be in the old Superfriends Cartoon as the "Legion of Doom" and would work.

[Rocket Ranger]

I was kind of kidding about the Legion of Doom, but it was a pretty inclusive team in the cartoon. Scarecrow, Riddler, Sinestro, Grundy, Bizarro, Grodd, etc, would have made a more interesting band of villains than just straight Superman Enemies or even IL ones. I'm glad so many people liked the idea. However, sticking to a more comics' based team, the Injustice Gang could probably accomplish the same sort of thing.

I'm also hoping for an Injustice Society sometime, but I don't think their members get around quite as much as the average JLA villain. However, now that I think about it, they should have made a wildcard team called "JLA's Most Wanted" and included characters like Amazo, T.O.Morrow, Cheetah, Shade and others on it that didn't get a team ability but that have possibly teamed up with, or been used by other JLA villains in their plots.

[I Am The Game]

Originally posted by DrDoomDemands
Um yea... Thats inventive and creative and all, but if i was the opposing player i just wouldnt push my characters.

Uhmm... Incapacitate?

[Bluebeard]

I agree that the Flash Rogues would be the best fit for the wildcard ability. There are just so many different ones, with so many different powers, that the team ability would be best represented by EVERY power in the DC universe. You can't represent them all with a single ability.

[Scipio]

They could easily just "redefine" any of the team powers (as long as it didn't throw the points too far out of whack) including IL.

The thing I do NOT like about wildcards for IL/villains is the need to put other figures with the right TA in your force. That just gives us Alfred working with the Injustice League, which is stupid.