Correct. I agree with you.

I own two trademarks, and just using a trademark without written consent is a violation of trademark laws. A trademark is what the name implies, a mark that denotes a product that is used in trade, that is commerce. A trademark can be a graphic, text, or a combination of both. When you file for a trademark, you must declare the the type of items to be sold under that trademark. For example, if I trademark the word McDonald's and I want to sell hamburgers, then I must classify it as food products. Even though McDonalds is now a registered trademark doesn't stop anyone else from trademarking the same name... as long as the items to be sold under it are a different classification of goods... like if I'm a farmer and I want to name my tractor company McDonalds, I can do it, and it will get approved by the USPTO, which is the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

A copyright is something completely different from a trademark. A copyright is used to protect written works, music, art, etc. It protects you from someone stealing your work and claiming it as their own.

Thank you again for pointing this out. I'm fixing it now, and the corrected version will be uploaded in about 5 minutes.

As per the requests, I have begun to supply the Rules Arbiter / Deputies with a list of the spelling, punctuation, grammatical, and spacing errors in the document, so they make the corrections in the official documents.

I'm still keeping my version up to date however, and will upload new versions as updates are added to the official version. I like the layout and the smaller size of mine better and the hypertext link table of contents is really helpful for me.

Ok, I'm going to talk about printing now.

First, if you want this document to be as easily printed as possible, why add any graphics at all? Seriously, why? Printing anything with graphics requires more ink than printing the same without graphics (as you clearly know). So you are actually making the printing harder than easier. The fact that you don't make it as hard as possible doesn't change the fact that it goes from easier to harder.

(From this point on all "you"s are general ones, not meant for VGA)
Then there's the "The PG is too long to print with the current wordings"-argument. You people do realize that when you print a document, you can choose which pages to print. You don't have to print the whole document.

And then the idea that re-printing all the cards instead of having the errata and wordings in the PG. You do realize that printing all the cards with errata in actual size would take a whole lot more printing than printing the PG. You can fit only four cards on one sheet of paper (because they have both a front and a backside).



PS. This post is not criticism against the work that VGA has done for the PG. This is criticism about the talk about printing in this thread.

I think this is awesome.

I print mine on the fornt AND the back, so I get nine cards a sheet.

what does one have to do with the other. The people like me who would like to be able to print a correct card probably don't really care about how much there would be to print. I would much rather have the option to print out a corrected card for say Larfleeze, then to have to print out an entire players guide and have it with me when I play Larfleeze. A character card is nice and small and fits on the table when you play. Its also a lot easier to look at for the special power then flip through the PG and have to show it to your opponent.

What prevents you from simply having that page of the PG out and ready to look at if you are playing Larfleeze?

I am not saying cards wouldn't be nice... but I fail to see how the current system can't be just as useful.

Actually, it's very different. In the old web site, WizKids specifically provided the logo and granted permission to use the logo on fan sites. While I don't see a similar page on the new WizKids or HeroClix web site, at best one could presume that some degree of latitude is allowed in the case of fan sites, however if you look at the most high-profile sites, HCR and HCW, you'll note that the WizKids logo does not appear anywhere on those sites, other than the WizKids account on HCR, where one can presume it was uploaded by a user responsible for that account.

When you start copying content of an entire document verbatim, you increase the significance of the infringement. WizKids-of-old specifically disallowed copying rules text, which is why you don't see basic PAC text in the unit section, aside from links to download WK-published PDFs.

While I don't think what's being done is going to make WK jump into any sort of action, I would say that should a problem arise, WK would be entirely within their right to insist that the document be pulled from public distribution.

It's always best to go into a project like this know that all your effort could be wiped away with a single C&D letter.

cards are considerably smaller then a full sheet of paper. Also, much easier to keep track of and use during a game. Not to mention, since you have ruled that people "HAVE" to have the character card for all modern age figures, it seems rather redundant to have the card with the incorrect wording as well as the PG. It could also lead to some confusion.

In other words "I would prefer to have a character card." Fine. Like I said, they would be nice to have.

But nothing says the current way doesn't work. Personal preference is just that: a preference.

Come on, if you are going to go nit-picking, at least pick the proper nits

The card requirement is not restricted just to Modern Age. ANY character with a card must have their copy.

How so? Where the wording conflict, the PG wins out. Where is the confusion?




And, again, I get the preference for cards. Totally. But that doesn't mean that the current system doesn't work.

Nothing. I did not criticize the idea of having updated cards for P'n'P. I criticized the idea of having such things INSTEAD of the corrected text being in the PG.

I never said the current way doesn't work, but it is entirely cumbersome and unnecessary. And as a collector and spender of my hard earned money on Wizkids products I personally would appreciate when they screw up the product I paid for that they take the time to fix it with a corrected character card. Its really not that much to ask, and correcting the card should take little to no time at all. It is a very simple fix that Wizkids could do to make their consumers happy.

speaking of nits, isn't your whole response to mine nothing more then one giant nit? It basically served no purpose other then to point out that I would prefer new character cards over a cumbersome PG, something I thought was pretty clear in my previous posts


You are correct on one thing, I misspoke when I said modern age figures. I was referring to all figures starting with the Legion Starter that have cards, so I guess your post wasn't entirely useless

No, its purpose was to understand why you felt that using the existing documentation wasn't adequate. If there was a real, effects-the-function-of-the-game reason, then it could perhaps be addressed. But if it was just a personal choice, then that's not really a reason to change the PG... can't please everyone.

Nice to see that asking question warrants personal attacks, though. Glad we could have a mature discussion about this.

While we're all nitpicking... That should be "affects," not "effects."