It really is simpler than you think. Outdoors, blocking terrain blocks line of fire if it is on the same level as the lowest end of the line of fire. Indoors, blocking terrain blocks, period.

You can look at whatever example of whatever complexity you want and these two rules will pull you through it.

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can the two Ts see each other? You can ignore the blocking terrain here because the elevation is blocking LoF. There's no example where blocking terrain is relevant not covered by the above two rules.

It was ruled that way at one time, quite some time ago. That is certainly a simple rule, but the current rule provides greater "realism" at arguably small cost in complexity.

So if the map has only 1 level of elevation can a colossal still draw line of fire from high levels of elevation?

Yes, they can.

Yes, so two grounded colossal figures can see each other over grounded blocking. The blocking will come into play if a figure that cannot do so is involved, though.

Yes I agree. That would make things less confusing. However I don't think it would be a positive change overall.

Just to clarify...So and never block LOF of colossals. Does the elevation matter?

example: C is a 2x2 colossal on grounded level. T and T are two targets on elevated. Can the colossal target both?

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I want to say yes based on the colossal LoF rule, but just want to make sure. ThX

(special thanx to Suttkus for his diagram)

That is fine.

Yes because the colossal could just state he is targeting from one level higher elevation then the two T's are at. Thus looking over the first to the second.

No he can not see both T's, he can only see the first T. The colossal may draw LoF as if he is on elevated terrain, so the two T's and the colossal would be on the same level of terrain at that point. It's not that complicated, colossals may chose to draw Lof like they occupied one level of elevated terrain higher than he really does. If you get your allies up one elevation higher than the colossal is on than he can only target your dudes like normal, like everyone is on the same level of elevation. Got it?

Apparently it is complicated for you, because you got the answer wrong. The colossal can see both T's as normalview already stated.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that they can only draw LoF fron level of Elevation above what they are actually at. Colossals can draw LoF as if they are on any elevation level. Wether it be one or 50 levels higher then they are actually standing on.

techGod gave us the link to read all about this stuff.

This character and a character on elevated terrain draw line of fire and make ranged combat attacks against each other as if they were both elevated, but terrain effects still apply normally. This character can make close combat attacks against elevated characters, even when this character is grounded

Read more: http://heroclix.com/announcements/no...#ixzz1spLE1sjv

See the part where terrain effects still apply normally? Well if he could consider himself on level 50 elevation than terrain effects wouldn't apply normally would they? Blocking terrain for instance would block his LoF normally, so would a character because the colossal and the opponents are at the same level as far as LoF is concerned.

Did you miss the very first thing in that article, where and do not block line of fire?

(Also, the second article he linked, which is the one you also linked, is actually using an older ruleset with Colossal Size, before multiple levels of elevation existed.)

This is slightly off topic, but with the new Colossal figures released we all know there will be events geared towards them. Is there a list of which Colossal figures can and can't use the Multiattack ability?